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It's taken me many years to work through a lot of Scripture and I've had my share of misapplication and misunderstanding - and I still do. God didn't give us an easy task. I think a lot of christianity misapplies verses - those two I gave being examples. I wish I had found a really good bible teacher who was really good at interpreting Scripture to learn from. But we didn't get the best teachers early on - it was like the blind leading the blind. I came from a Catholic background which didn't help - but we stumbled through it.

I haven't listened to any pastors on TV for awhile - I don't know any good ones but I'd like to find one.

1 John 2:26-27 KJV
[26] These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. [27] But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


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If you wouldn’t mind me saying so I see a real desire after Christ and knowing Him, His truth and righteousness in your post. As I’m sure you know, that desire after Him, is, your “Christ in you” since you have that, you have that that is necessary to bring you into all truth and all growth. So (as I’m sure your aware) give heed to this new life in you with all its whisperings and directions, for it is this desire in you, given full freedom to grow, is that that will present you before Him so you might get your abundant welcome.

So yes, you are being a “doer” of the word by struggling to work out your own salvation, which is our proper duty.

So as a fellow believer, I encourage you in your search and walk after Christ. So be blessed as you continue to feed your personal relationship with Christ. For in that relationship will all truth be found. And these set of circumstances God has set before you will, in time, be made to bring forth the peaceable fruit of righteousness and a increase of Christ living His life in and through you.

Be blessed most loved one of God, Not me

Yes after a period of being backslidden, these last months I've searched really hard for God. I feel like I "broke through" something spiritually because I really sense Him - we were riding in the car the other day and I was reading Psalms and I had such a "quickening" (?) in my spirit - it was powerful - but fleeting. I don't know how to describe it other than maybe "we groan inwardly awaiting our adoption..." Then we passed a church and I sensed Him even stronger. I don't know if others get that experience but Scripture really moves in your spirit and you sense God. I think it's a foretaste of heaven. But I like the unique way that you put it: "with all its whisperings and directions."

It has been a struggle - but what in life isn't? I appreciate your advisement.
 

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Yes after a period of being backslidden, these last months I've searched really hard for God. I feel like I "broke through" something spiritually because I really sense Him - we were riding in the car the other day and I was reading Psalms and I had such a "quickening" (?) in my spirit - it was powerful - but fleeting. I don't know how to describe it other than maybe "we groan inwardly awaiting our adoption..." Then we passed a church and I sensed Him even stronger. I don't know if others get that experience but Scripture really moves in your spirit and you sense God. I think it's a foretaste of heaven. But I like the unique way that you put it: "with all its whisperings and directions."

It has been a struggle - but what in life isn't? I appreciate your advisement.


Sounds like you are growing in Him. These “quickening(s)” do happen. But thanks be to God you recognize them. The more we listen to these “quickening(s)” the deeper will our relationship with Christ be, and so the more intimate will our walks with Him be.

If it helps; know that God loves righteousness, so whenever you have a choice, choose whichever is closer to, or a greater degree of righteousness. For none of us sees righteousness completely, but to the degree we do see in that should we walk.

But know that God’s heart is towards you, and has as much of Him for you, as your heart would have.

Be blessed in your pursuit of Him, Not me
 

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Romans 2:1-13 KJV
[1] Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. [2] But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. [3] And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? [4] Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? [5] But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; [6] Who will render to every man according to his deeds: [7] To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: [8] But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, [9] Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; [10] But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: [11] For there is no respect of persons with God. [12] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; [13] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.


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Love your enemies, this is What saved me.
Yeah, I didn't think it said that if you judge someone, it makes you guilty of the same thing.
It said that if you are also guilty, you have no business trying to be someone else's judge.
 

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Yeah, I didn't think it said that if you judge someone, it makes you guilty of the same thing.
It said that if you are also guilty, you have no business trying to be someone else's judge.
What is interesting about that is that if we aren't guilty of something but think someone can be judged because his sin is too big to be repented of, we are imagining something is more powerful than God -- and at that point, it can become an idol that tempts us and tempts us. We may be digging a pit for ourselves if we judge others as irredeemable or worthless.
 
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What is interesting about that is that if we aren't guilty of something but think someone can be judged because his sin is too big to be repented of, we are imagining something is more powerful than God -- and at that point, it can become an idol that tempts us and tempts us. We may be digging a pit for ourselves if we judge others as irredeemable or worthless.
Are you suggesting Christians should be empathetic?
Maybe that’s a poor choice, maybe convicted would be better. Most I read on here have no idea what or who they were prior to Christ, which makes me wonder what exactly have they repented of, God not showing them sooner how wonderful they were?
 
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Are you suggesting Christians should be empathetic?
Maybe that’s a poor choice, maybe convicted would be better. Most I read on here have no idea what or who they were prior to Christ, which makes me wonder what exactly have they repented of, God not showing them sooner how wonderful they were?
I don't know what to think sometimes. Have people really repented, or are they trying to figure out a way to escape the "wrath to come"?

I think we should see everyone as potential saints. There's not that much wrong with them -- nothing that God can't fix if they change their ways and repent. Yes, we should feel empathy, even love. I don't feel superior to "sinners." I can remember what I was.

If I think I see a flaw in someone, the only time I will mention it is if I think I can offer advice that they might see the wisdom in. I try to offer them a way of escape from their problem. I knew this woman who used to get drunk, go to bars and pick up men. I knew she wanted to find someone to love her. I tried to tell her she wasn't going to find real love in bars, to look somewhere else. Yes, I felt empathy for her. Men would use her and dump her. I didn't like to see her hurt that way. I wasn't preaching at her about how bad she was.

I think sin hurts people. I try to look at it that way.
 
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Sounds like you are growing in Him. These “quickening(s)” do happen. But thanks be to God you recognize them. The more we listen to these “quickening(s)” the deeper will our relationship with Christ be, and so the more intimate will our walks with Him be.

If it helps; know that God loves righteousness, so whenever you have a choice, choose whichever is closer to, or a greater degree of righteousness. For none of us sees righteousness completely, but to the degree we do see in that should we walk.

But know that God’s heart is towards you, and has as much of Him for you, as your heart would have.

Be blessed in your pursuit of Him, Not me
It's should all be part of the path of justification by faith: thinking through the implications of this glorious fact.
 

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It's should all be part of the path of justification by faith: thinking through the implications of this glorious fact.

Hi, it’s been a bit. Hope all things are Christ with and in you. Yes just different words describing the same truth of our salvation, which is Christ in us. And getting to know this One who has taken up residency in us.

Be blessed in Christ, Not me
 
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We had to deal with someone acting in an official capacity do something wrong. I wasn't sure whether to "turn the other cheek" or "have nothing to do with the unfruitful deeds of darkness but rather expose them." There seem to be dueling Scripture verses. Another example is when Scripture commands us to love our enemies, yet David prayed for harm to befall his enemies in the imprecatory psalms. Another example is when Scripture states that "no one has ever seen God" and yet Moses is said to have seen God face to face.

How do you handle dueling Scripture verses? What do you do if you have a decision to make about a course of action and yet Scripture seems to oppose itself?

It is better to be silent over things one is not convicted about.
Often the Lord sends tests of us, to see if we are more loyal to His will and His ways or wish to exploit the weaknesses of others.

Love is our fruit, and thinking the best of others, is the way of Jesus.
And often the problems we feel we need to take on, we forget it is the Lord who reveals what is hidden and gives us peace.

Our pastor likes to use words connected with various theological positions, but which are meaningless and unbiblical.
I noticed some time ago, rather than they knowing the theology, they liked the association, though were unaware of the problems.
It became obvious is Christ, showing love and support mattered more than distractions of problems outside the fellowship.

I have also noticed on these forums as well, encouragement to follow Jesus and the right path matters more than dwelling too much on disputes that have historically split the church. Sometimes just sharing ones experiences and foundations in Jesus has brought the right focus in our walks rather than how we express them in theological language. It is here our fellowship grows, where often the enemy would much rather sow anger and discord. God bless you
 
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I look 4 uniformity within the scriptures as opposed 2 variety like many of the false religions and the luke-warm Christians!! if they line up with the two most important commandments then dats a given, I then use many other criteria's, I use induction!! I look at the greek and Hebrew translations, I then read the commentaries, watch bible studies, look at what other orthodox Christians, preachers, pastors are saying, I look at the historical context, read articles, and most importantly listern to the holly spirit, if their all saying the same thing then I go with dat interpretation!!
 

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The thing I’m struggling with is numerous times He refers to himself as the son of man, but that makes no sense, because mans not involved in his conception?

God "declared", His Word would come forth out of His mouth, and be sent to where He sends it.

Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Gods Word Went forth out from God ... and declared: Begotten of God.

Heb 1
[5] For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

God sent His Word TO Mary's Womb.

Luke 1
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

God "declared", His Word would be Manifested in the LIKENESS, "as" a man; A particular man; A "servant"; and a servant of God is a Faithful man. And was so revealed, as a Jewish man, without reputation. (Ie pomp, power, authority, wealth, etc.)

Phil 2
[6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
[7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
[8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

No question Jesus came forth out from God, and WAS declared the Son of God, thus IS the Son of God.

To Abraham (not Abram) were promises from God. Abraham would be a "father" of many nations, (not counties, but rather People whose citizenship is of many nations).

Many men ARE "stock" (sperm) seed descendants of Abraham. (Not Gentiles)
However:
Every occupant ON the Earth, "WHO", has a "Faithful" relationship "with" God; and "WHO" since Jesus first came to earth, has become Converted IN Christ ...
Has Taken upon themselves; the seed of Abraham. And...
IS: a son of Abraham.

Gal 3
[6] Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
[7] Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
[8] And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.[9] So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
[14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

[16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

[29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Acts 13
[26] Men and brethren, children of the stock ofAbraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

Jesus took upon Himself the seed of Abraham...as have ALL Converted men.

Heb 2:
[16] For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

HOW ^ Jesus IS the Son of man.
HOW ^ Jews and Gentiles are the son of Abraham.

THE Promise to Abraham?
Father of many nations...
And inheritance of...
LAND, to Abraham and his descendants.

Jesus, had to be a descendant of Abraham, in order to fulfill the Law, that Jesus IS lawfully entitled to sit on King Davids Throne, which is located within the Land promised to Abraham.

Faithful and Converted men, have to be a descendant of Abraham, in order to have legal access to occupy Abraham's LAND inheritance...which is where Jesus' earthly Kingdom will be situated, during the 1,000 year reign.

And to note: "Gods Inheritance" IS: all People who are Faithful to God and Converted IN Christ.

So yes...
Jesus occupied the earth, thus had an earthly father...Abraham, and was the Son of man.
Jesus came forth out from God, and was declared the Son of God, is thus the Son of God.

John 16
[27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

John.17
[8] For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

God Bless,
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The thing I’m struggling with is numerous times He refers to himself as the son of man, but that makes no sense, because mans not involved in his conception?
When Peter is asked, he says Son of God, Jesus responds(blessed) this can only be given of His Father
Ahhh, the humility of God. He doesn't pull rank. He humbles himself with his favourite description of himself 'Son of Man'
His identity on earth is with us so we can see God in action....what action? 'a man of sorrows acquainted with grief'....he suckled at Mary's breast and took no offence being called a friend of sinners.....he allows a reject to wipe his feet with her hair and reaches out to touch lepers (if we could only understand the weightiness of this simple gesture).....yes, 'Son of Man' he willingly wore with dignity.....for us.