We can probably all find connections to pagan religions and homosexuality.Look at just a few things involved in homosexuality;They worship the flesh.They love the immoral.They hate Christianity.Lets see if anyone else can add to the list of proof.
Homosexuality is actually a pagan Religion
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True so true,They have sex confued with loveThey have n idea what agape love isThey believe the lies of this world
1) being homosexual does not mean you have to have sex, but feeling toward someone of the same sex that should be reserved for a married couples of different sex.2) sexual sin is sin!! all sin leads to death. If your gay, or not gay we are called to purity. To single out someone that has feelings for the same sex yet does not commit the act of sex because they love God is still considered a homosexual but without sin as they never conceived the act. 3) many Homosexuals do receive Jesus as Lord and savior, because without his help and anointing they can never change. We all come to Jesus broken and imperfect. 4) RobinD69. I question the love of God in you for starting such a ignorant thread, and the way you use "Labels" Jesus Is Lord.
(Brother Mike;64337)
1) being homosexual does not mean you have to have sex, but feeling toward someone of the same sex that should be reserved for a married couples of different sex.2) sexual sin is sin!! all sin leads to death. If your gay, or not gay we are called to purity. To single out someone that has feelings for the same sex yet does not commit the act of sex because they love God is still considered a homosexual but without sin as they never conceived the act. 3) many Homosexuals do receive Jesus as Lord and savior, because without his help and anointing they can never change. We all come to Jesus broken and imperfect. 4) RobinD69. I question the love of God in you for starting such a ignorant thread, and the way you use "Labels" Jesus Is Lord.
I question your "version" of God's love. What we feel may not be Truth at all, yet feelings should never be trusted. In fact it will betray a person at one time or the other. People often believe that their religion / denomination are the right one. That's a feeling, not a fact. But is it the Truth of God? No way.
1) being homosexual does not mean you have to have sex, but feeling toward someone of the same sex that should be reserved for a married couples of different sex.2) sexual sin is sin!! all sin leads to death. If your gay, or not gay we are called to purity. To single out someone that has feelings for the same sex yet does not commit the act of sex because they love God is still considered a homosexual but without sin as they never conceived the act. 3) many Homosexuals do receive Jesus as Lord and savior, because without his help and anointing they can never change. We all come to Jesus broken and imperfect. 4) RobinD69. I question the love of God in you for starting such a ignorant thread, and the way you use "Labels" Jesus Is Lord.
I question your "version" of God's love. What we feel may not be Truth at all, yet feelings should never be trusted. In fact it will betray a person at one time or the other. People often believe that their religion / denomination are the right one. That's a feeling, not a fact. But is it the Truth of God? No way.
The problem with the thread is that all those things listed by RobinD69 also describe a good portion of the World and not just homosexuals. Anyone that does not follow Jesus would be expected to behave and act like ..........WEll....... like the devil.Why single out homosexuals?The world acts like this and are not even gay. They could care less what God thinks. Most Christians know what God expects, likes and does not like. We know that he does not approve of the homosexual lifestyle or those that practice it. It is just ignorance that concentrates on a persons sin and blast acts of the flesh. The love of God draws people in, in which we are suppose to be a witness of, not listing all the faults and sin people have.Jesus Is Lord.
(Brother Mike;64345)
The problem with the thread is that all those things listed by RobinD69 also describe a good portion of the World and not just homosexuals. Anyone that does not follow Jesus would be expected to behave and act like ..........WEll....... like the devil.Why single out homosexuals?The world acts like this and are not even gay. They could care less what God thinks. Most Christians know what God expects, likes and does not like. We know that he does not approve of the homosexual lifestyle or those that practice it. It is just ignorance that concentrates on a persons sin and blast acts of the flesh. The love of God draws people in, in which we are suppose to be a witness of, not listing all the faults and sin people have.Jesus Is Lord.
Well, we are to judge their fruits, to see if they are of Christ or not.Matthew 7:16-20 - Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.(Ref: I John 4:1, John 7:24)And we are not suppose to judge the sinner.Matthew 7:1 - Judge not, that ye be not judged.(Ref: Luke 6:37, John 8:15)We are suppose to tell them about God's love and Truth, whether the world likes it or not.
The problem with the thread is that all those things listed by RobinD69 also describe a good portion of the World and not just homosexuals. Anyone that does not follow Jesus would be expected to behave and act like ..........WEll....... like the devil.Why single out homosexuals?The world acts like this and are not even gay. They could care less what God thinks. Most Christians know what God expects, likes and does not like. We know that he does not approve of the homosexual lifestyle or those that practice it. It is just ignorance that concentrates on a persons sin and blast acts of the flesh. The love of God draws people in, in which we are suppose to be a witness of, not listing all the faults and sin people have.Jesus Is Lord.
Well, we are to judge their fruits, to see if they are of Christ or not.Matthew 7:16-20 - Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.(Ref: I John 4:1, John 7:24)And we are not suppose to judge the sinner.Matthew 7:1 - Judge not, that ye be not judged.(Ref: Luke 6:37, John 8:15)We are suppose to tell them about God's love and Truth, whether the world likes it or not.
Because it goes back to understanding what the asherim of ancient Israel were and how much this figures into the evil of the world. I agree wholeheartedly that evil is evil, and homosexuality is not the only kind. However, it is linked to pagan worship, and was even listed as a mental disease up until a few decades ago.Simply watch how these folks handle themselves. It's not about 'rights' for most of them. They call attention to themselves by dressing ostentatiously, as the opposite sex, and carrying out completely unnatural actions. If it's about love, you're not taking to the street as a man dressed as a woman shouting obscene gestures.I'm a man that doesn't treat gays an differently. I know them and respect them. However, the Bible is crystal clear on the matter and you don't condone something society does. We've managed to turn tolerance into acceptance. It's not singling out, but it's also not fixed by simply ignoring it.
I'm a man that doesn't treat gays any differently.
Well, I don't believe Gay's That practice the act should be allowed any position of authority as their wisdom has been twisted. So in a sense they should be treated by Christians with love, but as someone that needs the Lord. They should be treated like anyone else that needs Jesus, and not just singled out as this topic started on. There are some so called "Gay" Churches that teach it is OK to live that type of life style. Those that teach and preach in these churches are willfully ignorant of the Word, and will receive the greater condemnation. If we are going to throw scriptures at anyone it should start there as the rest of the gay population that behaves like heathens would not understand anything spiritual and may think we take a position of hate against them with topics started like this, when in fact we want them to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Well, I don't believe Gay's That practice the act should be allowed any position of authority as their wisdom has been twisted. So in a sense they should be treated by Christians with love, but as someone that needs the Lord. They should be treated like anyone else that needs Jesus, and not just singled out as this topic started on. There are some so called "Gay" Churches that teach it is OK to live that type of life style. Those that teach and preach in these churches are willfully ignorant of the Word, and will receive the greater condemnation. If we are going to throw scriptures at anyone it should start there as the rest of the gay population that behaves like heathens would not understand anything spiritual and may think we take a position of hate against them with topics started like this, when in fact we want them to come to the knowledge of the truth.
(Brother Mike;64363)
(Swamp Fox;64348)
... I'm a man that doesn't treat gays any differently...
Well, I don't believe Gay's That practice the act should be allowed any position of authority as their wisdom has been twisted. So in a sense they should be treated by Christians with love, but as someone that needs the Lord.They should be treated like anyone else that needs Jesus, and not just singled out as this topic started on.There are some so called "Gay" Churches that teach it is OK to live that type of life style. Those that teach and preach in these churches are willfully ignorant of the Word, and will receive the greater condemnation. If we are going to throw scriptures at anyone it should start there as the rest of the gay population that behaves like heathens would not understand anything spiritual and may think we take a position of hate against them with topics started like this, when in fact we want them to come to the knowledge of the truth.Telling the Truth is Love in itself. However unto the world, the Truth is not that sweet to them at all. Remember that Christ was not all sweet and kind like most people think of Him. He showed quite a few different types of love.
(Swamp Fox;64348)
... I'm a man that doesn't treat gays any differently...
Well, I don't believe Gay's That practice the act should be allowed any position of authority as their wisdom has been twisted. So in a sense they should be treated by Christians with love, but as someone that needs the Lord.They should be treated like anyone else that needs Jesus, and not just singled out as this topic started on.There are some so called "Gay" Churches that teach it is OK to live that type of life style. Those that teach and preach in these churches are willfully ignorant of the Word, and will receive the greater condemnation. If we are going to throw scriptures at anyone it should start there as the rest of the gay population that behaves like heathens would not understand anything spiritual and may think we take a position of hate against them with topics started like this, when in fact we want them to come to the knowledge of the truth.Telling the Truth is Love in itself. However unto the world, the Truth is not that sweet to them at all. Remember that Christ was not all sweet and kind like most people think of Him. He showed quite a few different types of love.
Hi, how you doing, I believe we have a misunderstanding.(Brother Mike;64337)
1) being homosexual does not mean you have to have sex, but feeling toward someone of the same sex that should be reserved for a married couples of different sex.
You are not a homosexual unless you give into the temptation just as you are not a murderer unless you give into the temptation.
2) sexual sin is sin!! all sin leads to death. If your gay, or not gay we are called to purity. To single out someone that has feelings for the same sex yet does not commit the act of sex because they love God is still considered a homosexual but without sin as they never conceived the act.
You are right, sexual sin is sexual sin and all sin leads to death. You have some good points, but you are missing my point, we label ourselves to quickly, just because someone has certain feeling does not make them those feelings while acting upon those feelings creates the label.
3) many Homosexuals do receive Jesus as Lord and savior, because without his help and anointing they can never change. We all come to Jesus broken and imperfect.
I agree, but you still miss my point.
4) RobinD69. I question the love of God in you for starting such a ignorant thread, and the way you use "Labels" Jesus Is Lord.
It seems you are the one using the labels, I merely pointed out something may help us all keep from having to deal with same sex marriage. If we can prove my points that homosexuality is actually a religion then they have no leg to stand on for their cause. So are you saying I should just let the homosexuals continue in what they are doing and not care if they are headed for hell. What kind of love is there if we do not seek to save them from themselves. Have you ever spoken with a homosexual and asked them what they worship? They worship the flesh, the gym is their church and the church is their perversion of the truth. How many people are lulled into the lifestyle by not understanding its truth? There is no medical evidence for it being genetic but plenty for it being a choice, that being said, we need to step up and help all we can by educating the public in any way we can.
1) being homosexual does not mean you have to have sex, but feeling toward someone of the same sex that should be reserved for a married couples of different sex.
You are not a homosexual unless you give into the temptation just as you are not a murderer unless you give into the temptation.
2) sexual sin is sin!! all sin leads to death. If your gay, or not gay we are called to purity. To single out someone that has feelings for the same sex yet does not commit the act of sex because they love God is still considered a homosexual but without sin as they never conceived the act.
You are right, sexual sin is sexual sin and all sin leads to death. You have some good points, but you are missing my point, we label ourselves to quickly, just because someone has certain feeling does not make them those feelings while acting upon those feelings creates the label.
3) many Homosexuals do receive Jesus as Lord and savior, because without his help and anointing they can never change. We all come to Jesus broken and imperfect.
I agree, but you still miss my point.
4) RobinD69. I question the love of God in you for starting such a ignorant thread, and the way you use "Labels" Jesus Is Lord.
It seems you are the one using the labels, I merely pointed out something may help us all keep from having to deal with same sex marriage. If we can prove my points that homosexuality is actually a religion then they have no leg to stand on for their cause. So are you saying I should just let the homosexuals continue in what they are doing and not care if they are headed for hell. What kind of love is there if we do not seek to save them from themselves. Have you ever spoken with a homosexual and asked them what they worship? They worship the flesh, the gym is their church and the church is their perversion of the truth. How many people are lulled into the lifestyle by not understanding its truth? There is no medical evidence for it being genetic but plenty for it being a choice, that being said, we need to step up and help all we can by educating the public in any way we can.
(RobinD69;63946)
We can probably all find connections to pagan religions and homosexuality.Look at just a few things involved in homosexuality;They worship the flesh.They love the immoral.They hate Christianity.Lets see if anyone else can add to the list of proof.
Well, yes, Robin, it IS "pagan".Remember what the Apostle Paul wrote in the first Chapter of his letter to the Romans?Romans 1:22-32 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."I think these verses pretty much sum it up, don't you? Just look at what gays and lesbians are doing in our country today. They are down right rebellious! Nature worship, sex worship, you name it. Not only that, but there are clubs of men who love "young boys". And the "efemininate" men who like to dress in women's clothing.But I have read many news articles which tell of feminists and lesbians who worship the goddess Diana to this day especially in the State of Minnesota where some 2000 gather every year to this "festival".Kim
We can probably all find connections to pagan religions and homosexuality.Look at just a few things involved in homosexuality;They worship the flesh.They love the immoral.They hate Christianity.Lets see if anyone else can add to the list of proof.
Well, yes, Robin, it IS "pagan".Remember what the Apostle Paul wrote in the first Chapter of his letter to the Romans?Romans 1:22-32 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."I think these verses pretty much sum it up, don't you? Just look at what gays and lesbians are doing in our country today. They are down right rebellious! Nature worship, sex worship, you name it. Not only that, but there are clubs of men who love "young boys". And the "efemininate" men who like to dress in women's clothing.But I have read many news articles which tell of feminists and lesbians who worship the goddess Diana to this day especially in the State of Minnesota where some 2000 gather every year to this "festival".Kim
The problem is that we are allowing the world to make definitions that God has already made. One is not a homosexual unless they give into the temptation and even then there is a way out. The world wants you to believe that if you have done something once or if you are tempted to do something them you are what you have done. I am sorry but I will not be defined by my sin no matter what it is. As is said in 1 Corinthians 6:11 for some of you were but have since been washed, cleansed, purified, justified by the blood of Christ. We also know that once you have been born again you are a new creature, old things have passed away. Even if we slip and sin again we are still not defined by our sin because we are Christians who make mistakes. We are children of God and any other definition is false.
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