Rev. 18:4 Come Out Of Her Lest You Share In Her Plagues ...

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I read that China is just like Nazi Germany - it's an Orwellian nightmare where their every action is monitored. They even have drones that look like birds fly overhead to watch the citizens. I read that they're even controlled on how many sheets of toilet paper they use. But America is heading that way.


It is because the global elites want an utterly controlled world population.
 
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It is because the global elites want an utterly controlled world population.

It's good to find people who know about that. I had tried bringing it up at bible study and no one knew about it. I just don't want to see this world in 10 or 20 years from now. I really hope that God is going to end it before it gets much worse. And I don't know of anywhere on the earth to escape it.
 
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It seems that some would convince you that the "problem" is a version, any version, in which the "GLOBAL CONSPIRATORS" will subjugate the masses. And under this scenario, apparently we're all doomed. -- So what's the point? Stop living? Surrender? Hide under a rock?

And for those individuals and those "solutions", please allow me to suggest that a different Topic might be in order. Because THIS Topic is a warning to those who either LIVE in a large city where PLAGUES are a current problem or where they're a potential problem.

So if you live in this type of situation and you're not presently working to escape your environment, then you should anticipate that consequence:

Rev. 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,
Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues
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5 for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.
6 Render to her as she herself has rendered,
and repay her double for her deeds;
mix a double draught for her in the cup she mixed.
7 As she glorified herself and played the wanton,
so give her a like measure of torment and mourning.
Since in her heart she says, ‘A queen I sit,
I am no widow, mourning I shall never see,’
8 so shall her plagues come in a single day,
pestilence and mourning and famine,
and she shall be burned with fire;
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.”


It's just that simple. Either extricate or participate.


We all choose, -- some more wisely than others.
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It seems that some would convince you that the "problem" is a version, any version, in which the "GLOBAL CONSPIRATORS" will subjugate the masses. And under this scenario, apparently we're all doomed. -- So what's the point? Stop living? Surrender? Hide under a rock?

And for those individuals and those "solutions", please allow me to suggest that a different Topic might be in order. Because THIS Topic is a warning to those who either LIVE in a large city where PLAGUES are a current problem or where they're a potential problem.

So if you live in this type of situation and you're not presently working to escape your environment, then you should anticipate that consequence:

Rev. 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,
Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;
5 for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.
6 Render to her as she herself has rendered,
and repay her double for her deeds;
mix a double draught for her in the cup she mixed.
7 As she glorified herself and played the wanton,
so give her a like measure of torment and mourning.
Since in her heart she says, ‘A queen I sit,
I am no widow, mourning I shall never see,’
8 so shall her plagues come in a single day,
pestilence and mourning and famine,
and she shall be burned with fire;
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.”


It's just that simple. Either extricate or participate.


We all choose, -- some more wisely than others.
Bobby Jo

What I'm experiencing is that no one that I know is preparing for anything. And not everyone has the health or the money to escape from a populated area.

I've been keeping my finger on the pulse of the news so I can gauge what may be coming and how soon and it looks to me as if the end is coming swiftly. I just read yesterday that a lot of Congolese have just poured in through the open border - and no one is checking the health of any of them, so I expect either a pandemic or a terrorist attacking a nuclear plant. I can't believe that Americans aren't doing a thing. We all seem to be mindless cattle without the spirit of Revolution. No one is joining in unison to stand up to defend the country while we're being put at risk. Where is a Moses?

I read that Obama signed a law that in the event of need, the government can clean out your bank account. So we're on the fence as to whether to withdraw it or leave it in to earn interest or buy goods. We're making plans but it takes time.
 

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...no one that I know is preparing for anything. ...

Great NEWS. Sounds to me like we'll have PLENTY of candidates for the Great Falling Away. Nobody's prepared, because nobody cares enough to prioritize their lives. And that's good, because while the government is rounding up all those who are perceived as a menace to society, -- they'll be too busy to bother with me.

Thanks guys, I owe you,
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So apparently Southern California is inundated with a NEW MOSQUITO, -- the "Aedes", or "ankle biter". The Aedes has been found in 20 states, but is prevalent in Southern California. This mosquito carries the normal variety of plague viruses including: dengue, chikungunya, and yellow fever;, but is unique in that it can also carry Zika. They're so small that they're typically not seen, but their bite is much worse that a typical mosquito, and their eggs can apparently lie dormant on a moist surface until there's enough water to hatch.

Meet the new Aedes mosquito spreading misery around a wide swath of Southern California – Daily Breeze


I wish I lived in Southern California ...
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Great NEWS. Sounds to me like we'll have PLENTY of candidates for the Great Falling Away. Nobody's prepared, because nobody cares enough to prioritize their lives. And that's good, because while the government is rounding up all those who are perceived as a menace to society, -- they'll be too busy to bother with me.

Thanks guys, I owe you,
Bobby Jo

Yes there is a falling away. Christians are definitely compromising with the world.

So you do think the government is going to round up those who are independent minded - who they label a "menace" - which by the way is anyone who believes in Revelations. Do you think that's what the FEMA camps are for? I read the government bought tons of hollow point bullets too. A lot of secretive things going on.
 
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So apparently Southern California is inundated with a NEW MOSQUITO, -- the "Aedes", or "ankle biter". The Aedes has been found in 20 states, but is prevalent in Southern California. This mosquito carries the normal variety of plague viruses including: dengue, chikungunya, and yellow fever;, but is unique in that it can also carry Zika. They're so small that they're typically not seen, but their bite is much worse that a typical mosquito, and their eggs can apparently lie dormant on a moist surface until there's enough water to hatch.

Meet the new Aedes mosquito spreading misery around a wide swath of Southern California – Daily Breeze


I wish I lived in Southern California ...
Bobby Jo

Glad for that bit of news - I shared it with those who may be affected.

How much longer do you surmise before America goes into a tailspin?
 
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Yes there is a falling away. Christians are definitely compromising with the world.

So you do think the government is going to round up those who are independent minded - who they label a "menace" - which by the way is anyone who believes in Revelations. Do you think that's what the FEMA camps are for? I read the government bought tons of hollow point bullets too. A lot of secretive things going on.

The "humans" (government) WILL take captive, and shoot as needed, the "zombies" (citizens). And there's nothing we can do. We're already photographed for Facial Recognition, our social networks interconnected, and purchasing tracked. All we can do is prepare for when we can't buy or sell, and minimize our visibility. -- Or the other option is FREE SHOWERS! :)

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... How much longer do you surmise before America goes into a tailspin?

As I understand it, we crossed the threshold into the 42 month tribulation on BOTH the 70th anniversary of Israel's State, and Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. -- Do the math ...

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As I understand it, we crossed the threshold into the 42 month tribulation on BOTH the 70th anniversary of Israel's State, and Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. -- Do the math ...

Bobby Jo

I read that about the facial recognition. They have access to your phone - and they can even stop your car remotely. I have never felt so uneasy in this country. I hadn't heard about our purchases being tracked - I don't know what purpose that would serve. I read that they're using private homes to install video surveillance on doorbells. It seems like a good idea to protect an area but technology can be abused. I read that they're installing centers on street corners that record conversations and video. It looks like we're becoming just like China - they'll use drones with cameras that look just like birds to video the populace.

You're talking to someone who is pretty elementary about Revelations. What does your math tell you?

I read an article this morning that got me thinking about it again - it's undeniable that something is happening that's secretive and ominous. I keep praying because the world scares me more every day that goes by.
 
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I read that about the facial recognition. ...
It starts with your Drivers License photo, but worse, because with the "Real ID" they have all your basic personal information. It has NOTHING to do with DRIVING, it has EVERYTHING to do with CONTROL. -- And it's a U.N. "Development Programme" -- "Goal 16 Targets" Agenda #9 item. (See 3:15)

You're talking to someone who is pretty elementary about Revelations. What does your math tell you?
It's not MY math, it's simply MATH. -- May of 2018 plus 42 months concludes at ___________ .

... the world scares me more every day that goes by.
It IS called the TRIBULATION! And every day WILL get WORSE. :)

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It starts with your Drivers License photo, but worse, because with the "Real ID" they have all your basic personal information. It has NOTHING to do with DRIVING, it has EVERYTHING to do with CONTROL. -- And it's a U.N. "Development Programme" -- "Goal 16 Targets" Agenda #9 item. (See 3:15)


It's not MY math, it's simply MATH. -- May of 2018 plus 42 months concludes at ___________ .


It IS called the TRIBULATION! And every day WILL get WORSE. :)

Bobby Jo

So it's November 2021.

I can't imagine things getting much worse.

Even Christianity is being taken over: The Coming “New World Order”
 
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So it's November 2021. ...
Well, -- yes and no. YES because that's when Jesus will return. But NO because those who accept the "mark of the beast" will have five months of boils which are apparently caused by their immune system responding to an "intruder". So it appears that we won't be able to buy or sell starting late Spring of 2021.

But that's not the end of it. -- It can easily take YEARS to properly prepare on a limited budget. I've been working on our preparations for nine years, and still have to budget and purchase all the short-term-shelf-life canned goods.

... I can't imagine things getting much worse. ...
It's even better than imagining, -- you get to WATCH!


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Well, -- yes and no. YES because that's when Jesus will return. But NO because those who accept the "mark of the beast" will have five months of boils which are apparently caused by their immune system responding to an "intruder". So it appears that we won't be able to buy or sell starting late Spring of 2021.

But that's not the end of it. -- It can easily take YEARS to properly prepare on a limited budget. I've been working on our preparations for nine years, and still have to budget and purchase all the short-term-shelf-life canned goods.


It's even better than imagining, -- you get to WATCH!


Bobby Jo

It's taking us a long time to get ready - we only just began to prepare for any eventualities. We have hardly anything prepared.

I do think they're planning on martial law due to the presence of foreign troops here.

I came across this site which really showed it's all coming to pass: The Coming “New World Order”
 
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It's taking us a long time to get ready - we only just began to prepare for any eventualities. We have hardly anything prepared. ...
Perhaps you should stop looking at the waves and listen to JESUS (Ref. Luke 22:36). It's ok to consider, but smart to take action. Faith without works is DEAD.

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To All, (& @Soverign Grace),

Some Things To Consider:
1. Avoid populated areas:
Rev. 18:4 ... “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues
2. Accumulate and use your resources wisely:
Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.
3. Include an adequate supply of food:
Rev. 6:6 ... “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; but do not harm oil and wine!”
Note: A "denarius" is a days-wage. And you'll need approximately a year's supply PER PERSON, with extra for others.​
4. Be prepared for when you won't be able to buy resources:
Rev. 13:17 ... no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.
5. The Tribulation is anticipated to have started 70 years after the International Recognition of the State of Israel, and lasts 42 months:
Rev. 13:5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months
6. Anticipate approx. 6 months (anticipated Spring of 2021) prior to Jesus' return for the apparent time when you won't be able to buy and sell:
Rev. 9:5 they were allowed to torture them for five months, but not to kill them, and their torture was like the torture of a scorpion, when it stings a man.
7. Anticipate Global Thermonuclear War at the advent of Jesus' return (Fall of 2021):
Rev. 6:13 and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale; 14 the sky vanished like a scroll that is rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. 15 Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the generals and the rich and the strong, and every one, slave and free, hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains,
8. Those who accept the mark of the beast will drop dead at the return of Jesus:
Rev. 14:9 ... And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If any one worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also shall drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured unmixed into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
9. GOD gives us HIS Word to prepare us, strengthen us, and protect us:
Rev. 13:10 ... Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.
Rev. 14:12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus
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10. If you are martyred, you WILL return to rule and reign with Jesus for the Thousand Year Millennial Kingdom:
Rev. 20:4 ...Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


Seems pretty straight forward, -- not necessarily easy, but achievable ...
Bobby Jo
 
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Glad for that bit of news - I shared it with those who may be affected.

How much longer do you surmise before America goes into a tailspin?

Also, fleas carrying Bubonic plague have made their appearance among the rats infesting the tent villages of S. Cali. How long before the medical system of California is completely overwhelmed by these types of ancient disease? Apparently, President Trump is taking the threat to national security seriously. Secretary Carson (head of HUD) was talking about it on Fox News yesterday and that he would be going there (to Cali.) to try to help the authorities figure out what to do about the homeless situation. He said that it isn't enough to just throw money at the problem--billions have already been spent. Mental illness, drug and alcohol addiction and the lack of skills and education are behind the homelessness. Those are long term problems and they will not yield to short term solutions like just shoving the homeless into government housing. Only faith in Christ gives humans a reason to survive and thrive in this dark world.
 
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Also, fleas ... Only faith in Christ gives humans a reason to survive and thrive in this dark world.

As provided in the OP, -- but it's MORE than faith in Jesus. WORKS ARE REQUIRED.

So who is preparing? Are we really going into the cataclysmic future thinking that Jesus will provide for our needs? HE already said that WE need to provide for our own needs (Luke 22:35-36) so who'd be so stupid to think otherwise? And if we're not preparing, then what are we doing, -- playing church?!?

The wise steward takes ardent action (Matt. 11:12). But who among us is wise? I've yet to find them ...
Bobby Jo