The Trinity is NO lie.

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Nondenom40

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If you want my comments on what I have studied concerning the Trinity in the holy scriptures, you can begin by reading and thinking long and hard about the OP of this thread.
How condescending. If you had more than trotting out a bunch of verses i think i'd have seen it by now. Sadly, i haven't.
 

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I don't have access to your word study. But if you want to post it, I'll be happy to take a look. Are you willing to consider what I have to say on the subject of baptism?
Its called bible study. Do one on logos. There are tons of helps available.
 

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How condescending. If you had more than trotting out a bunch of verses i think i'd have seen it by now. Sadly, i haven't.
I don't "trot out a bunch of verses" in the OP (The Trinity is NO lie.).

btw, the scripture says,

1Co 2:13, Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

so trotting out a bunch of verses is a biblical way of teaching. But if you are not open to that kind of study, perhaps the following is true of you:

1Co 2:14, But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
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Its called bible study. Do one on logos. There are tons of helps available.
I'm not going to seek it out; I believe what I believe, and I study at my own leisure. I also once was in the place that you are now: and I don't feel any need to go backwards.
 

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I'm not going to seek it out; I believe what I believe, and I study at my own leisure. I also once was in the place that you are now: and I don't feel any need to go backwards.
Sounds like someone isn't interested in understanding God's word. I'm supposed to bend over backwards to read your stuff but you can't get down from your pedestal to do some research? It's a two way street. You don't want to dig deeper that's fine. I give what I get.
 
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Sounds like someone isn't interested in understanding God's word. I'm supposed to bend over backwards to read your stuff but you can't get down from your pedestal to do some research? It's a two way street. You don't want to dig deeper that's fine. I give what I get.
Hey, I posted what I want you to read. I even provided you a link to it. All you have to do is go there and read it. But you want me to search through a needle in a haystack to find the material that you are referring to.

The least you can do is provide a link to your word study. If I go searching for it and end up looking at a word study that isn't even the one you are referring to, won't you look like an idiot on the day of judgment.

I think that you are actually afraid of having your word study addressed by someone who carries the anointing of the Holy Ghost. So you are hiding its location from all of us. But if I don't know its location, how can I find it?
 
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Sounds like someone isn't interested in understanding God's word.
Like I said, I study at my own leisure; and I will say this: that I also seek to understand the word of the Lord when I do study, asking the Holy Spirit for illumination. You should do the same.
 

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@Nondenom40,

Did you ever find the location on the internet of the word study you were talking about?

If you can provide a link, I'll be happy to look at it.
 

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Concerning baptism:

It should be clear that while it does not remove the filth of the flesh, it does wash away sins; and that this is salvational for the person being baptized.

1Pe 3:20, Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1Pe 3:21, The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Act 22:16, And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

It seems to me also that walking in newness of life in the following verse = salvation:

Rom 6:4, Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

And also, there is a specific cutting away of sin that takes place in the believer's heart because of baptism (as well as forgiveness of sins, in context):

Col 2:11, In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12, Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13, And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Col 2:14, Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
 

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There are more verses than just the ones I have quoted above on the subject of baptism. But I feel that the ones that I have quoted above are basic proof that we need baptism if we are going to truly walk as born again believers in Christ.
 

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Act 2:38, Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39, For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Rom 8:30, Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

In order to be glorified you must first be justified, and in order to be justified you must first be called.

The conditional promise of Acts 2:38 is given to as many as the Lord our God shall
call.

Therefore if you do not fulfill the condition of the promise, Acts 2:39 tells you that you are not called. And that therefore you are not justified.

There is still time for you to be justified (through being called). Got to a Oneness Church and receive baptism in Jesus' Name. Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and ye shall find. Knock, and it will be opened to you.

But if you do not receive justification in this life (because you didn't respond to the call (to be baptized in Jesus' Name), then you will not be glorified.

There is little time. You do not know what a day may bring forth; and time and chance happen to everything (Ecclesiastes 9:11, Proverbs 27:1)


 

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Someone might want to bring up the following:

1Co 1:14, I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
1Co 1:15, Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
1Co 1:16, And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
1Co 1:17, For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

A closer look at holy scripture will tell you that Paul simply did not baptize people himself (for the most part), but allowed his disciples to do the baptizing.

It should be clear that many were baptized in Corinth:

Act 18:8, And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.

Therefore I conclude that Paul was simply copying Jesus' style when it came to baptism:

Jhn 4:1, When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
Jhn 4:2, (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
Jhn 4:3, He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.
 

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GINOLJC, revelation time, in your quote below,listen to it closley.
I nevertheless hold to a view of the Godhead that emphasizes His Oneness (although I do not deny the plurality within the Godhead).
Now our question, do you believe this plurality of God is in NUMBER, or in Persons. please read your statement above before you answer.
PICJAG.
 

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GINOLJC, revelation time, in your quote below,listen to it closley.

Now our question, do you believe this plurality of God is in NUMBER, or in Persons. please read your statement above before you answer.
PICJAG.
I would say that God is one Person...however He can also be identified as three.

I will say that when you understand the doctrine it will be simple in your mind; but I will also say that it cannot be simply stated to someone who may not have a regenerated mind (I'm not saying that's you...but you are not my only audience).
 

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I would say that God is one Person...however He can also be identified as three.
so are you saying that an Identification is a "PERSON?"

second, if there is anything that is simple and cannot be understood, then it's "CONFUSION", and not of God. for God is not the author of confusion.
I'll be looking for your answer.

PICJAG.