Armageddon in America: Three Prophets See an End Time Civil War

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AusDisciple

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Am I being overly simplistic when this comes to mind? .....Matthew 6:26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
 

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Not at all simplistic 100% true Will things get bad yes how do we cope remember Passover in Eygpt the blood on our doorpost is the blood of Christ he always takes care of his own.
 

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Robin and Aus,If you live in a highly populated downtown city, I would seriously consider moving out of it. Even now, there is turmoil when the wheather turns bad. Delivery trucks have not been able to get to our part of the suburbs for several days. There is no gas at the stations and food is dwindling on the shelves. I can't imaging how it is in the city. In a disaster, there will be riots and crime for stealing food in the heart of cities. That's historical and set an example for us that we should heed.So, yes, stock up on food, water, candles, lanterns, medicines, toiletries, fuel, etc. Buy extra each time that you go to the store so that the expense is spread out and have a particular area to store it. Rice, beans, canned goods, bottled water, etc.......What I am holding onto is, the fact that Scripture states that God LOVES His Children and has always taken care of those who love and honor Him. If we are loyal to only Him, why would he be angry at us? He will not be! I am very loyal and steadfast in my faith. He has been actively in my life forever and I do expect Him to be there evermore! He made us promises that He wants us to remind Him of. He loves us enough to go through all of this with us and for us. A parent doesn't punish a faithful and loyal child. They protect them.That's not to say that one can be naive, however. Prepare yourself for the "what if". Man still has freewill to choose his behavior and those are the ones to protect ourselves from. Psalm 37: 1 Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity. 2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb. 3 Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed. 4 Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart. 5 Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass. 6 And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.7 Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
 

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Cedar, with all due respect, perhaps the tribulation will be the ultimate test of our faith (assuming it happens while we are alive and all is pointing to that) and part of that test of faith is to put our trust totally in the Lord supplying all of our needs based on our faith.It seems to me that the parables Jesus told are even more appropriate now and, in true divine form, they are far deeper than even our deepest study can go to date.
 

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So how should we prepare? Buy land in a secluded place and leave society? Stock up on candles, can goods, non perishables, extra fuel, generators? Please I am not being sercastic I am really concerned and would like to know. I have had a few of my own visions and it isnt pretty. I do not mind dying for my faith, but should I just lay down my arms and let them kill me or should I defend myself?
Hi Robin.Yes, prepare by whatever means possible. Yes, I believe we should all be ready to defend ourselves, our families and our property as our ancestors were. Yes, and that means being "armed". You should also be prepared to leave where you are on short notice and to travel lightly. Or set yourself up to be mobile, if possible. My husband and I have begun making preparations. Just use some common sense and good judgment. The internet is a good place to find information on preparing for disasters, war, terrorism, etc. Do a search on YouTube. Yes, some of it will scare you, no doubt.Our own government is preparing the armed forces right now to quell civil unrest. They did it in New Orleans when Katrina kit. I realized one day that some "alarmists" and "conspiracy theorists" are not "nutcases". The U.S. Government is telling us what they are doing. We need to pay close attention and be ready.Remember, Jesus told us, "we wise as serpents, but harmless as doves". Do not draw attention to yourself. Do not be aggressive, but be ready to run or defend. It could get really ugly in the next few years. God be with us all.....Kim
 

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Hi Robin.Yes, prepare by whatever means possible. Yes, I believe we should all be ready to defend ourselves, our families and our property as our ancestors were. Yes, and that means being "armed". You should also be prepared to leave where you are on short notice and to travel lightly. Or set yourself up to be mobile, if possible. My husband and I have begun making preparations. Just use some common sense and good judgment. The internet is a good place to find information on preparing for disasters, war, terrorism, etc. Do a search on YouTube. Yes, some of it will scare you, no doubt.Our own government is preparing the armed forces right now to quell civil unrest. They did it in New Orleans when Katrina kit. I realized one day that some "alarmists" and "conspiracy theorists" are not "nutcases". The U.S. Government is telling us what they are doing. We need to pay close attention and be ready.Remember, Jesus told us, "we wise as serpents, but harmless as doves". Do not draw attention to yourself. Do not be aggressive, but be ready to run or defend. It could get really ugly in the next few years. God be with us all.....Kim
for what they new and know will happen,i have watched them for over ten years,i seen 9/11 be prepared for and happen to create this war with the muslims.there will be great dismay soon and because the usa has left god and clung to false gods ,the seperation of gods pertection has widen..our war is a spiritual one ,not the flesh one that they make for us .all christians that will fight the mulims by hand is as wrong as if you fight against the mafia by hand..maybe thats the only way you can survive by haveing the biggest guns and kill who ever gets in the way,woman childern..all this is in fear and lack of faith...you must prepare and have faith ,but you do not have to kill kill kill...they are tilling you you must kill or buy the guns for others to kill for you to survive ..the mark is comming and will not walk up to you and say hi i am mark, take me as your friend...you will be lead very cunningly and will be blind unless you know god and have faith in yeshua ...
 

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Why is it you only pass judgement on the U.S. bullfighter Im not defending our mistakes and straying from God ... we have and we will pay the price ..However compared to the rest of the World Who do not even worship the right God/Christ and want all that oppose them dead we are far from the worst in the World ...take your head out of the sand and educate yourself past your own personal opinions
 

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Why is it you only pass judgement on the U.S. bullfighter Im not defending our mistakes and straying from God ... we have and we will pay the price ..However compared to the rest of the World Who do not even worship the right God/Christ and want all that oppose them dead we are far from the worst in the World ...take your head out of the sand and educate yourself past your own personal opinions
i know what i say[sometimes],i have seen the rest of the world do these very same things ,i have seen there dismay,and there hardships.[i have traveled to many countries,and work with men from all over the world]i am just saying that it is happening to this country now .i have studied history and know what it says in many parts of the bible that you turn to your own words,thats fine i would be more frank with you with bible verses to back me up but i know you would delete me or my posts.so i say not much in this thing between us in our veiws.. but back to the point.the usa is passing the patience of god and will lose great power in the next few years..we are being set up to fall into great dismay then when we are in great fear and pain it will be easy for the false christs to fool many people.you say in faith only ,and i say god will have some people doing things that will help in these times of trouble.[one example.if you have to travel across a lake one day,and you do not know how,so you pray... then you find a canoe,you say tku god and your faith has paid off.one thing tho someone built that canoe]
 

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Why is it you only pass judgement on the U.S. bullfighter Im not defending our mistakes and straying from God ... we have and we will pay the price ..However compared to the rest of the World Who do not even worship the right God/Christ and want all that oppose them dead we are far from the worst in the World ...take your head out of the sand and educate yourself past your own personal opinions
i know what i say[sometimes],i have seen the rest of the world do these very same things ,i have seen there dismay,and there hardships.[i have traveled to many countries,and work with men from all over the world]i am just saying that it is happening to this country now .i have studied history and know what it says in many parts of the bible that you turn to your own words,thats fine i would be more frank with you with bible verses to back me up but i know you would delete me or my posts.so i say not much in this thing between us in our veiws.. but back to the point.the usa is passing the patience of god and will lose great power in the next few years..we are being set up to fall into great dismay then when we are in great fear and pain it will be easy for the false christs to fool many people.you say in faith only ,and i say god will have some people doing things that will help in these times of trouble.[one example.if you have to travel across a lake one day,and you do not know how,so you pray... then you find a canoe,you say tku god and your faith has paid off.one thing tho someone built that canoe]You mean the tradition of men to back you up. Quite frankly, I'm sick of tired of people walking over the Ten Commandments, and the rest of His Word. Thou shalt not kill does not mean you can't kill at all.
 

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You mean the tradition of men to back you up. Quite frankly, I'm sick of tired of people walking over the Ten Commandments, and the rest of His Word. Thou shalt not kill does not mean you can't kill at all.
with the mouth[sorry if you are sencitive to my remark].you did not even hear my full post. do you even know what the ten commandments are.i bet you do not know.and what they mean .and i like the way this forum is set up ,the only problem is some people think they know it all and not very good listeners. are you full of the traditions of man and can not admit it.
 

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You mean the tradition of men to back you up. Quite frankly, I'm sick of tired of people walking over the Ten Commandments, and the rest of His Word. Thou shalt not kill does not mean you can't kill at all.
with the mouth[sorry if you are sencitive to my remark].do you even know what the ten commandments are.i bet you do not know.and what they mean .and i like the way this forum is set up ,the only problem is some people think they know it all and not very good listeners. are you full of the traditions of man and can not admit it.[url="http://www.christianityboard.com/difference-situation-and-words-behind-english-word-t9959.html]The difference of situation and words behind the English word "Kill"[/url].............Exodus 20:13 - Thou shalt not kill (H7523).The Hebrew word for kill is H7523 - ratsach1) to murder, slay, killa) (Qal) to murder, slay1) premeditated2) accidental3) as avenger4) slayer (intentional) (participle)
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(Niphal) to be slainc) (Piel)1) to murder, assassinate2) murderer, assassin (participle)(subst)d) (Pual) to be killed...ratsach raw-tsakh' a primitive root; properly, to dash in pieces, i.e. kill (a human being), especially to murder:--put to death, kill, (man-)slay(-er), murder(-er).As you can see, one of the Ten Commandment Thou shalt not kill does not mean not to kill at all. It means that a person who has the intention (premediated) of wanting to kill a person. That is murder........Ecclesiastes 3:3 - A time to kill (H2026), and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;H2026 - harag1) to kill, slay, murder, destroy, murderer, slayer, out of handa) (Qal)1) to kill, slay2) to destroy, ruin
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(Niphal) to be killed
c) (Pual) to be killed, be slain...harag haw-rag' a primitive root; to smite with deadly intent:--destroy, out of hand, kill, murder(-er), put to (death), make (slaughter), slay(-er), X surely....As you can see here, scripture does say a time to kill. It means we have to take the person who has the intention (premediated) of murdering the person out and send the murderer back to the Father to prevent greater evil. And this action does not at all contradict Exodus 20:13.Therefore, lets see in the NT of what Christ sayMatthew 19:18 - He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder (G5407), Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,G5407 - phoneuō1) to kill, slay, murder2) to commit murderphoneuo fon-yoo'-o from 5406; to be a murderer (of):--kill, do murder, slay.Christ says Do not be a murderer.
 

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i know what i say[sometimes],i have seen the rest of the world do these very same things ,i have seen there dismay,and there hardships.[i have traveled to many countries,and work with men from all over the world]i am just saying that it is happening to this country now .i have studied history and know what it says in many parts of the bible that you turn to your own words,thats fine i would be more frank with you with bible verses to back me up but i know you would delete me or my posts.so i say not much in this thing between us in our veiws.. but back to the point.the usa is passing the patience of god and will lose great power in the next few years..we are being set up to fall into great dismay then when we are in great fear and pain it will be easy for the false christs to fool many people.you say in faith only ,and i say god will have some people doing things that will help in these times of trouble.[one example.if you have to travel across a lake one day,and you do not know how,so you pray... then you find a canoe,you say tku god and your faith has paid off.one thing tho someone built that canoe]
We already know all about judgement Bullfighter do you think you are the only one here that reads the Bible ???????? You act like you are the only one who reads scripture you are continually retranslating the Word to your own view acting as if you are the only who reads scripture This is why Im always asking you to stop WE ALREADY GET ALL THIS you never say anything you just repeat repeat repeat putting your own veiw of judgement on everyone and everything Warn, warn, judge judge judge thats all you do Again we aready know these things because God already told us Why is it you think we need it continually from you... Give us a scripture you are talking about and we will read it but you never do you just repeat/retranslate your views of judgement we already read What God told us ... to what point exactly do you think you are helping anyone ... ??
 

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We already know all about judgement Bullfighter do you think you are the only one here that reads the Bible ???????? You act like you are the only one who reads scripture you are continually retranslating the Word to your own view acting as if you are the only who reads scripture This is why Im always asking you to stop WE ALREADY GET ALL THIS you never say anything you just repeat repeat repeat putting your own veiw of judgement on everyone and everything Warn, warn, judge judge judge thats all you do Again we aready know these things because God already told us Why is it you think we need it continually from you... Give us a scripture you are talking about and we will read it but you never do you just repeat/retranslate your views of judgement we already read What God told us ... to what point exactly do you think you are helping anyone ... ??
my point was some times some people have to do things not just sit and have faith...
 

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We already know all about judgement Bullfighter do you think you are the only one here that reads the Bible ???????? You act like you are the only one who reads scripture you are continually retranslating the Word to your own view acting as if you are the only who reads scripture This is why Im always asking you to stop WE ALREADY GET ALL THIS you never say anything you just repeat repeat repeat putting your own veiw of judgement on everyone and everything Warn, warn, judge judge judge thats all you do Again we aready know these things because God already told us Why is it you think we need it continually from you... Give us a scripture you are talking about and we will read it but you never do you just repeat/retranslate your views of judgement we already read What God told us ... to what point exactly do you think you are helping anyone ... ??
my point was some times some people have to do things not just sit and have faith...And you are sitting there in judgment and condemning people and saying they don't have faith because why? Cause men say so...
 

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my point was some times some people have to do things not just sit and have faith...
And you do what ??????????????? You do not say anything we do not already know ...We all already read it how do you think this helps anyone please tell me
 

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We already know all about judgement Bullfighter do you think you are the only one here that reads the Bible ???????? You act like you are the only one who reads scripture you are continually retranslating the Word to your own view acting as if you are the only who reads scripture This is why Im always asking you to stop WE ALREADY GET ALL THIS you never say anything you just repeat repeat repeat putting your own veiw of judgement on everyone and everything Warn, warn, judge judge judge thats all you do Again we aready know these things because God already told us Why is it you think we need it continually from you... Give us a scripture you are talking about and we will read it but you never do you just repeat/retranslate your views of judgement we already read What God told us ... to what point exactly do you think you are helping anyone ... ??
i am saying there are things that some people will do ,not just sit on faith alone.even tho what we do is though faith.i was saying things about the usa and you brought that to question..have you ever heard what i say i saw .and was privy to information on the war and why was the 9/11 set up..i do not just repeat myself.i say many things that you do not hear..fine i will go over my posts and correct what i said .i will try to put it in polite words with verses from the bible..wow i do not know why you get so upset.i am on christ side ...i would be there cutting the trees in the path for others to walk easier[i mean with a chain saw and axe]you have faith to get to work next week but there are people there to help with the travel ....
 

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And you do what ??????????????? You do not say anything we do not already know ...We all already read it how do you think this helps anyone please tell me
in respect to the things that the book of rev.warns us about.i have taken first aid and other physical things,as we head into this beastly power or our children do ,do you think that millions of christians with various levels of understanding will have the faith that will save them or there love ones.i think not,i think we have to be prepared also in physical ways.
 

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And you do what ??????????????? You do not say anything we do not already know ...We all already read it how do you think this helps anyone please tell me
with all these back lashes.i must go back and start over ,and maybe someone will hear me except you and jordan.but in any case [the ?s of traditions has not been answered just with some degree of anger moved out of the way because people defend it]the warning does not come from me alone but has been told by christ.my truth may not be yours .why can you not just leave it .and let it go to thin air or someone else will reply..do you need to have the answer for all things.do you have things you are not sure about ..
 

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You do not say anything there is nothing to hear you tell us what we know already GOD ALREADY TOLD USare you just so arrogant you cant believe we already know these things we do not need you to tell us you make vague warnings over and over and over they are not scripture they are your veiws We read God brings judgement upon the World and every person in the World must chose...Yet you have narrowed it down to a few places and people of your chosing you judge and judge and judge yet when you are called on your judging you squeel like a babe because Im picking on you ....you have never said anything except what we already know you just put your own spin on it How do you think that helps anyone how does it help you ... Do you think we are all so stupid that we do not get that the U.S. along with the rest of the World will be judged for their sins ?????????? Do you think you are the only one that gets this ???????????? Its part of the message of the BIBLE we all read it not just you ............. I ask again what have you done ......... What point does your judgement have who does it help..........
 

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I can some up the entire message you have given sense you have been here in your 211 posts The U.S. is going to be judged because of its sinswe are all going to be judged if we worship on Sunday and we are going to receive a mark That is the only thing you have said besides make personal judgements in 211 posts