In those days, tampons had not yet been invented (which is the reason why some women don't bleed the first time...because they already bled over the tampon).
Judaizers! They Live!!!! They walk among us!!!
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And also, the point that I would make is that you misrepresented holy scripture on that one. You didn't portray the situation accurately; and in doing so you made God out to be less than the good that He truly is (because His law is representative of His moral character).
Ok, no offense but I usually stay way from the topics of sex and nudity in a mixed Christian forum. So this is my last response on this. It has nothing to do with tampons. lol or lack thereof. When a woman has sex for the first time her hymen is broke through and she generally bleeds and that would show up on sheets and or a white bridle gown. But not all women bleed enough to show. Now this is done. I am not mad I do not get into this topic much. When it happen in groups where I am sitting with them, I go a get a cup of coffee and wait for the fur to fly. So there you go and there you have it.
I do not see that representing moral character at all. And they were all short snipets. Do with it what you will.
You are insisting on the idea that the Lord is somehow unjust in the laws that He set forth to Moses.
I will only quote to you the thing that I think applies:
Jde 1:14, And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jde 1:15, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Jde 1:16, These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
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Yet, it was your contention about the law that led us into this line of thinking. And the contention that you made most assuredly has sex and nudity as a subject if the discussion were to continue, as it did.
Oh, maybe you got the wrong impression? I am not saying that I am better than you. I am saying I know how these conversations go and I just do not pursue them.
That's fine. But I think that thou dost protest too much. If you had not said it in the post above, I would not have had the impression that you think you're better than me; but since you said that it is not the case, it makes me wonder why you think that I think it might've been the case. And the answer is obvious...it is because there is very likely some truth to the matter.
No, not at all. I am sure it was my fault. Forgive the Grailhunter please. I will be back shortly.....grass to mow.
Truth
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I have been watching this thread, and am Curious as to what you definition, in Brief a Judaizer is!!
Thank You
Originally Judaizers were Jewish-Christians who believed it was necessary to adopt Jewish customs and practices, especially those found in the Laws of Moses, to be saved. Circumcision, entry into Judaism. The term is derived from the Koine Greek word Ἰουδαΐζειν (Ioudaizein) used once in the Greek New Testament (Galatians 2:14) where Paul publicly challenges Peter for compelling Gentile converts to Early Christianity to “Judaize”. Modern Judaizers are groups who claim the necessity to continue the obedience to the Law of Moses found in the Pentateuch (first five books of the Bible.) For me it is also a matter of spirit, spirit of the Law vs the Spirit of Christ. A spirit of legalism vs the spirit of the Way, an application of love and understanding. Written Laws are static, Christ’s Way is living.
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God has shed abroad His love in our hearts via the Holy Ghost (Romans 5:5); and this love is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 8:4). In this manner, the spirit of the law is written on the hearts and in the minds of all those who exist under the new covenant (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 7:6).
We are not any longer bound to the letter, as of a requirement given to us; but we are under grace and out of thankfulness for our salvation are obedient to the spirit: we find that obedience is a privilege that brings us joy unspeakable and full of glory.
We are not any longer bound to the letter, as of a requirement given to us; but we are under grace and out of thankfulness for our salvation are obedient to the spirit: we find that obedience is a privilege that brings us joy unspeakable and full of glory.
First off, I do not know about you, but Christ's teachings are written on my heart. No Laws.
You can say the Law was Holy. You can say it is what brought us to this point. You can say that Christ was the fulfillment of the Law. But if you say the word obedience, I have to assume obedience to Christ. If in anyway, shape, form or fashion you mean the Law, then you should start numbering the Laws you obey. I get this so many times, "I love the Law! I don't obey any of them, still.... You have to be careful, following Christ with only your lips will get you in trouble.
The kingdom of God is founded on law...since when will citizens of that kingdom not be obedient to the laws that govern it? Wasn't Lucifer's rebellion a rebellion against the laws of God which he continues to this day? Why would not someone think you are suggesting a continuation of that rebellion? Isn't sin rebelliousness? Transgression against law?
In the OT the ark of the covenant was modelled on God's throne right? And inside were placed the tables of the law. When the apostle John saw the ark of the covenant in heaven, what do you propose was inside it? Nothing? As if God has dispensed with law and now runs a hippie commune based on 'free love'?
God has not done away with laws that govern His kingdom. What He has done is implemented a way by which they can be obeyed without striving and without failing. That way is through what Paul calls righteousness by faith. God Himself abides in us by His Spirit and empowers us in obedience through love. Thus love does indeed...literally not figuratively...fulfill every law that God has handed down to man throughout man's sojourn here on earth,,,and that same power will continue to sustain the kingdom throughout all eternity. Conflict shall never rise again.
Paul did not challenge Peter at all. that's a lie ! and work of Satan. it's made up gibberish, twisting the story.
If Paul was challenging Peter, Peter would of had Challenged him on the subject.
All that Paul was doing was setting the example forward and Peter did not challenge such at all.
Any true Jew follows all of the OT and any worthy Christian knows that the OT is a Blueprint for the NT.
Sadly some try and split the two and make out some pathetic race thing of the Goyim and the Jews being two clean different people, but the fact remains that the two are as one "under true Christianity" and it's only they who are not true Christians that make up this lie about two, the Jews still insist such as do all Atheist peddle this point and this is because they are ignorant of the fact. because they are rejecting Christ.
All under True Christianity are as one and anyone who claims otherwise is of Satan.
Any Jew who goes outside of the OT Books that we have in our Bible is not a Jew at all, but is of Satan for sure if they add to the OT and that condemns the Talmud totally and there so called Zionist lackey dogs, there is no hope for them so called Jews because they are not supporting Holy Moses at all in fact or the OT but have made up their own Idols just like that bastard Golden Calf that such Satanist created and tried to kill Holy Moses.
Jews are not for today, they who were worthy became Christians 2000 years ago.
No one is worthy of God unless you are born again.
God does not bring the unrepentant back into his arms, ever, that is Satans doing !
But nowadays Satanic clowns are claiming that he some how will, because of the bastard State that was created by Satanist in fact. if that were the case, God would have to say sorry to Sodom and Gomorrah and for Jesus Christ as well, as why would God do such a thing ? by bring back unrepentant idiots.
@brakelite @Reggie Belafonte
Like the others shoot down in flames! You all talk the talk...let see you walk the walk.. List the Mosaic Laws that you follow. Those that give faith lip service!! Lets see your list of Mosaic Laws that you follow or your excuse why you do not follow them. Again you guys make feel like Paul fighting those that would preach against the Gospel. Let see it, bring it on!
Paul did not challenge Peter at all. that's a lie ! and work of Satan. it's made up gibberish, twisting the story.
If Paul was challenging Peter, Peter would of had Challenged him on the subject.
All that Paul was doing was setting the example forward and Peter did not challenge such at all.
Any true Jew follows all of the OT and any worthy Christian knows that the OT is a Blueprint for the NT.
Sadly some try and split the two and make out some pathetic race thing of the Goyim and the Jews being two clean different people, but the fact remains that the two are as one "under true Christianity" and it's only they who are not true Christians that make up this lie about two, the Jews still insist such as do all Atheist peddle this point and this is because they are ignorant of the fact. because they are rejecting Christ.
All under True Christianity are as one and anyone who claims otherwise is of Satan.
Any Jew who goes outside of the OT Books that we have in our Bible is not a Jew at all, but is of Satan for sure if they add to the OT and that condemns the Talmud totally and there so called Zionist lackey dogs, there is no hope for them so called Jews because they are not supporting Holy Moses at all in fact or the OT but have made up their own Idols just like that bastard Golden Calf that such Satanist created and tried to kill Holy Moses.
Jews are not for today, they who were worthy became Christians 2000 years ago.
No one is worthy of God unless you are born again.
God does not bring the unrepentant back into his arms, ever, that is Satans doing !
But nowadays Satanic clowns are claiming that he some how will, because of the bastard State that was created by Satanist in fact. if that were the case, God would have to say sorry to Sodom and Gomorrah and for Jesus Christ as well, as why would God do such a thing ? by bring back unrepentant idiots.
Before you call people liars you might consider reading the Bible every once in a while.
Galatians 2:11-21
“But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. For prior to the coming of certain men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to withdraw and hold himself aloof, fearingthe party of the circumcision. The rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy. But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews? We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles; nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified. But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be! For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor. For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”
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