Pornography Addiction

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Attached file is preliminary for the talk for the men's breakfast I mentioned.

It was your brother, am I remembering rightly?

Much love!

Yes Marks, my brother...wonder if I should share this with him or not. I don't want him to think I am splattering his stuff on here :eek: but...I will save it and maybe share it in an email. I won't lie I'll just tell him I got from my Christian forum :D
Thank you!
 
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Seriously, the book I suggested turned just about all this same stuff I thought I was doing a good thing by teaching for a quarter of a century, right on its head. And at the cheaper book dealers, it will cost you little more than the price of a latte at Starbucks. (Or, I can send you an MS Word copy for free.) But, I would rather see you have your own hardcopy.
 
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Seriously, the book I suggested turned just about all this same stuff I thought I was doing a good thing by teaching for a quarter of a century, right on its head. And at the cheaper book dealers, it will cost you little more than the price of a latte at Starbucks. (Or, I can send you an MS Word copy for free.) But, I would rather see you have your own hardcopy.
Send me the soft copy please.

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I feel for our young today, back in the day it wasn’t as easy to access smut, you had to buy a magazine or go to a video store and rent this garbage and be seen as a pervert scumbag.

Now one can easily view it in the privacy of their home and even worse our young have access to it.

Everywhere you turn you see porn, on ads, tv, billboards, etc...

This garbage should be made illegal as it use to be, it should be treated as a crime and as prostitution.
 
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I never understood pornography; I still don't. I was exposed to it during my high school days. I don't want to see other guys with women, so that's leaves just women but I don't want to see two women either. So that leaves me with none.
 
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@Nancy

Attached file is preliminary for the talk for the men's breakfast I mentioned.

It was your brother, am I remembering rightly?

Much love!

Mark, Interesting article, but I would discourage the use of the declaration that pornography and rape are not sex. They are very definitely sexual acts, and to challenge that, would merely a distraction from outset.

And I might add another critique. IMO, the moth analogy distracts from the focus of the subject.

There was no internet when I was growing up, I got my entire sexual education in the schoolyard, and I suspect that I probably would have watched pornography on the internet, if it had been available; sort of like the video version of what we all talked about as kids. :) These days, it is not unusual to find ads with sexual pictures, which I presume are there to take you to some kind of porn site. I have watched a few videos on the internet, but I could not identify with what was going on, nor the people involved. They were not the kind of people with whom I could not imagine having anything whatsoever in common. IMO, the cure for pornography addiction involves just briefly watching it.

Your description of how sexual addiction changes our brain. And it literally does! I did some research on this a couple decades ago, following an incident where a man had been watching a schoolgirl walk past his house every day for two years. He became so obsessed with her that he kidnapped, raped and murdered her, cutting up her body, placing it a suitcase and dumping it in the lake. I was fascinated and mystified by how a person could end up thinking like this. It doesn't happen all at once. It seems that when someone obsesses for something, the brain starts to 'rewire' itself. The total rewiring process takes about three years. So, I presume that unwiring the brain from an addiction must also take three years, notwithstanding I would still love to smoke a cigarette even after many years. :-(

I did not know that dopamine was the happy hormone associated it addictions. I am more familiar with the happy hormone serotonin, a companion of dopamine which is the focus of anti-depressant drugs such as serotonin reuptake inhibitors. I have a lot of widowed folk in my life these days, and the ones that were on serotonin reuptake inhibitors, couldn't wait to get off of them. As a recent widower, upon recommendation, I have found that 5-htp, a serotonin booster, is a great help for the occasional days when I am down, to take the sharp edges off of rough day, or help me sleep.
Best wishes for your address.
 

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Mark, Interesting article, but I would discourage the use of the declaration that pornography and rape are not sex. They are very definitely sexual acts, and to challenge that, would merely a distraction from outset.

And I might add another critique. IMO, the moth analogy distracts from the focus of the subject.

There was no internet when I was growing up, I got my entire sexual education in the schoolyard, and I suspect that I probably would have watched pornography on the internet, if it had been available; sort of like the video version of what we all talked about as kids. :) These days, it is not unusual to find ads with sexual pictures, which I presume are there to take you to some kind of porn site. I have watched a few videos on the internet, but I could not identify with what was going on, nor the people involved. They were not the kind of people with whom I could not imagine having anything whatsoever in common. IMO, the cure for pornography addiction involves just briefly watching it.

Your description of how sexual addiction changes our brain. And it literally does! I did some research on this a couple decades ago, following an incident where a man had been watching a schoolgirl walk past his house every day for two years. He became so obsessed with her that he kidnapped, raped and murdered her, cutting up her body, placing it a suitcase and dumping it in the lake. I was fascinated and mystified by how a person could end up thinking like this. It doesn't happen all at once. It seems that when someone obsesses for something, the brain starts to 'rewire' itself. The total rewiring process takes about three years. So, I presume that unwiring the brain from an addiction must also take three years, notwithstanding I would still love to smoke a cigarette even after many years. :-(

I did not know that dopamine was the happy hormone associated it addictions. I am more familiar with the happy hormone serotonin, a companion of dopamine which is the focus of anti-depressant drugs such as serotonin reuptake inhibitors. I have a lot of widowed folk in my life these days, and the ones that were on serotonin reuptake inhibitors, couldn't wait to get off of them. As a recent widower, upon recommendation, I have found that 5-htp, a serotonin booster, is a great help for the occasional days when I am down, to take the sharp edges off of rough day, or help me sleep.
Best wishes for your address.
He means that neither rape nor pornography are the mutually love-binding endeavors God designed. The underlying force and desire of neither is a spirit of bonding with a woman to have a relationship or a family... or anything close to that.
 
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Pornography is vile and evil, why don’t they just make it illegal again and start locking people up like thy use to?
 
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Pornography is vile and evil, why don’t they just make it illegal again and start locking people up like thy use to?

What's the big deal about pornography? It's just a spectator sport like watching boxing or wrestling, except it's not as violent. Just because you don't enjoy it, it doesn't mean others don't.
 

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Quite frankly, if we can't comprehend the addictive nature of something, including pornography, then just accept that we don't understand it, and try to keep opinions that we have already admitted we don't understand, to ourself. It is a struggle for many people, and our negative comments about their troubles are not too helpful.
 
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Sorry, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Pornography use to be illegal to make back in the day, the performers along with the people filming the acts would get arrested, hence the mafia being involved in it, they would get raided by law enforcement and locked up.

You seriously didn’t understand my post, the illegal or vile part, or do you condone porn?
 
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What's the big deal about pornography? It's just a spectator sport like watching boxing or wrestling, except it's not as violent. Just because you don't enjoy it, it doesn't mean others don't.
Are you Christian?
 
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Quite frankly, if we can't comprehend the addictive nature of something, including pornography, then just accept that we don't understand it, and try to keep opinions that we have already admitted we don't understand, to ourself. It is a struggle for many people, and our negative comments about their troubles are not too helpful.
Watching porn is a sin, or don’t you know that?

If someone is addicted to porn, they need to get counseling.
 
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Pornography use to be illegal to make back in the day, the performers along with the people filming the acts would get arrested, hence the mafia being involved in it, they would get raided by law enforcement and locked up.

You seriously didn’t understand my post, the illegal or vile part, or do you condone porn?
Your original post seemed to suggest that people addicted to Porn should be locked up. (It only takes a few more words, and a moment more to make a post clear.)

The OP of this thread was addressing Pornography Addiction.… not the production of it.
 

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What's the big deal about pornography? It's just a spectator sport like watching boxing or wrestling, except it's not as violent. Just because you don't enjoy it, it doesn't mean others don't.
I don't believe you will have any support for this idea in Scripture. Quite the opposite, since it would be another work of the flesh (the sin nature).

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness... ALL VISUALIZED IN PORNOGRAPHY (Gal 5:19)

As to using addition as an excuse for any sin, that is purely a cop out. All sins are addictive, so addiction is meaningless.
 
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