aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Also, I never said doctrine doesn’t matter
I said it doesn’t save you.
God’s Grace saves us
What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor
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I said it doesn’t save you.
God’s Grace saves us
You can trust Mike regarding what his church taught. You cannot trust him regardng what Protestants teach... He clearly never heard what Protestants teach else he would have been convicted on his behaviour.
The woman who prayer warrior is quoting I believe can be trusted regarding what LDS TEACH because she was entrusted by LDS to teach at an exclusive LDS seminary, teaching Bible at an LDS University in an LDS stronghold and LDS state. I think that qualifies her as being reliable. Your Mike on the other hand didn't even know that fornication is unsupportable and unacceptable. No wonder he became a Mormon.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
My Word
You think He was talking about a book?
He was talking about loving God and neighbor
I've already addressed this question, I believe in response to a similar question that you asked earlier.
But here goes (again).... The canon of scripture (God's written Word, the Bible) was completed almost 2000 years ago. I don't believe that any further revelation qualifies as being part of that written Word.
This is not to say that God stopped speaking when the written Word was compete. Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice." I believe that He speaks to believers today. When I "hear" a voice in my mind that I believe is God, I ALWAYS test what I hear against the Bible. If anything I hear doesn't line up with the Bible (exclusively), I discard it. There is no other "book" I use to test what I hear.
Does this answer your question?
They believed what he taught, right? They believed that his false doctrine was the truth.
Understanding God's grace and how it works in the life of the believer is a doctrinal issue. And our eternal destiny depends on that understanding. For example, grace in the Catholic vernacular is quite different to the grace in the Protestant. Protestants don't receive "merit" stored up by the excess of riches of past Saints. Nor do they receive grace through attending mass, stations of the cross, receiving extreme unction, or confessing sins to an earthly priesthood.
Just a book?? Just any old book???
I write books. I would never call the books I write "the truth;" although, they contain truth.
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Grailhunter
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Sort of, so you are saying God has to obey your judgement on what to say or what He does or you are going to call Him on violation of the scriptures. What is revelation? ....the Jew use to kill their prophets because they said something they did not what to hear. The Jews had Christ killed because He was not what they were expecting. Christian have an idea how Revelation is going it occur. If Christ does not return how people expect him to, how Revelation tells it or their understanding of Revelation,will they reject Him, again? History has a tendency to repeat itself for this very reason.
The Jews didn't utilize all of the scriptures pertaining to the Messiah. That's one of the reasons they rejected Jesus when He came as the suffering Messiah, which is clearly prophesied in the OT. They were looking for a triumphant king who would deliver them from Roman tyranny. Also, the hypocritical Jewish leaders were threatened by the truth. They feared losing their lofty positions in society.
We are given quite a bit of info in the Bible about Christ's return. We're told what we need to know. It's our responsibility to be ready for the return of Christ at all times.
As I've stated many times, understanding the truth requires the Holy Spirit working in our hearts and mind. He guides us into all truth and will never contradict the written Word.
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Grailhunter
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The prophets and Christ still died because of what they understood. Crucify him! Crucify Him!
I understand fundamentalism. Do you think I am being rude? One of the points, and only one of the points is that, what does a fundamentalist say to someone that believes that modern revelation occurs...what are they going to say to speaking in tongues, what are they going to say to all those that have seen Mary? 1500 hundred years after Christ, fundamentalists stand up and say they know a better way. And go on to gut 1200 years of Christian history. I know enough about the denominations to point out their errors and stand with them to defend them. You know why? Because I pay attention. I am a Christian, simple as that, and I love Christians. As Christ said, if they are not against us, they are for us. Fundamentalism is a good way to stay focused on the scriptures and it saves souls, so what can you say bad about that. Still reality marched on and so did Christianity.
Grailhunter
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Officially...a form of a religion, that upholds belief in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture. Short and sweet
Grailhunter
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Truth is God....The Bible is not a God. God Word is living and cannot be contained in any book. Again, you do not what to think you can be the judge of God. Or expect to control what he does.
Yeah, I don't ever think that I can control God. Not sure where you got that idea. I'm sorry, but I'm not even sure at the moment how to respond to what you're saying.
Grailhunter
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aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Seriously?
Of course God is perfect; of course God is Love
Like I said, WE were created to love and we became imperfect after the Fall and now, we are called to glorify God by learning with the Holy Spirit, to love neighbor and God perfectly.
This is our sanctification
You think people love perfectly? If they did, sin would not exist.
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No, I wouldn't say that you're offending me. I'm having a hard time understanding what your beliefs are. But I am rather tired, so that doesn't help matters.
Grailhunter
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No, I wouldn't say that you're offending me. I'm having a hard time understanding what your beliefs are. But I am rather tired, so that doesn't help matters.
You want to call it night? I will talk to you anytime.
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