A Study of the book of James:

I will say also, that if James is not profitable for doctrine because it is not written specifically to Gentiles, then Philippians isn't profitable for doctrine because it is only written to the saints at Philippi with the bishops and deacons (Phl 1:1).

Thus we cannot obtain encouragement from such verses as Philippians 1:6; which, to me, has upheld me in times when I doubted my salvation over the fact that my life wasn't as perfect as it should be.

To me, it is a ridiculous notion that we should discard Philippians and/or James from that which is capable of ministering to us; in doing so we would be robbing ourselves of a substantial blessing.

H. Richard said:

No where in the book of James is it written that Jesus' shed blood on the cross pays for the sins of the whole world. In his book he never once mentions the very basis of salvation under grace.

If you love the book do as it says. Personally it wasn't written to me so it is not for me.

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Did Jesus ever use the word "grace"?

justbyfaith said:

I will say also, that if James is not profitable for doctrine because it is not written specifically to Gentiles, then Philippians isn't profitable for doctrine because it is only written to the church at Philippi with the bishops and deacons.

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Good point. Should we also discard everything Jesus said when speaking to his Jewish disciples? Should the book of Hebrews be discarded?

How about Revelation? Can we toss it out too saying it wasn't written to us but to seven churches?

justbyfaith said:

To me, it is a ridiculous notion that we should discard Philippians and/or James from that which is capable of ministering to us; in doing so we would be robbing ourselves of a substantial blessing.

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And over and above that, if all these books are Scripture, and all given by inspiration of God, then they are all necessary FOR EVERY BELIEVER (2 Tim 3:16,17). They all complement each other. James is all about practical Christianity.

Enoch111 said:

And over and above that, if all these books are Scripture, and all given by inspiration of God, then they are all necessary FOR EVERY BELIEVER (2 Tim 3:16,17). They all complement each other. James is all about practical Christianity.

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Amen!

Giuliano said:

Good point. Should we also discard everything Jesus said when speaking to his Jewish disciples? Should the book of Hebrews be discarded?

How about Revelation? Can we toss it out too saying it wasn't written to us but to seven churches?

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I think that @H. Richard, is, indeed, inclined to toss out these things as well as the epistle of James.

But Philippians is written to Gentiles and so I'm certain that @H. Richard would like to partake of its treasures; however it is not written to him and therefore he cannot (because it is written only to the saints at Philippi with the bishops and deacons, Philippians 1:1)

H. Richard said:

Sorry fellows but I stand behind the OP

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In doing so you are being willfully ignorant of the information that has been presented to you.

@H. Richard,

Do you believe that the epistle of Paul to the Philippians is applicable to you?

Because it is not; if James is not (see previous posts).

See Hebrews 3:7-8, Hebrews 3:15, Hebrews 4:7.

To @H. Richard.

H. Richard said:

Sorry fellows but I stand behind the OP and do not need to say any more about it.

Like the OP stated people will argue this till they are blue in the face but I am not going to. The book says who it was written to and I believe it.

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I have no desire to argue. I think you stand in peril.

2 Peter 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

James is not talking about your works at all, as the Satanist just love to claim such nonsense, any true born again Christian knows that James is speaking of Christian works in regard to the Holy Spirit first and foremost leading you and this is not of your own works at all, but the glory is that of Gods workings and as we say it's not me that does such works but of Jesus Christ in me, that is more to the point and anyone who claims otherwise is of Satan.

So we have this gibberish being peddled about works, but it's clear different and the Satanist desperately only try to muddy the waters between them both as being the same, when they are in fact clearly different to one who is Spiritually born again.

So clearly one is a moron to claim that James is talking about your own works at all. not to mention that it's amazing the amount of people who claim that James is saying such and it's only because they have been brainwashed to believes such total nonsense. what idiots ! do they think that James does not know what he is talking about . after all James is born again Servant of Jesus Christ in fact.

One only has only to read the heading of the OKJV regarding the book of James to understand that fact.
James is talking about Faith, the faith that endures trials, trails come and go, but a strong faith will face them head-on and develop endurance.
Faith obeys the Word. it will not merely hear and not do.
Faith produces doers. fact is that he is not talking about mans works at all what so ever and anyone who claims he is, such a one is a slandering him in fact and that means that such a one is of Satan.

The faith that we are talking about here is not blind faith as blind faith is worthless, but true Christian Faith has substance in fact.

H. Richard said:

Your saying I am standing in peril is suppose to make me change my mind. If a person goes back under the law they are accursed according to Paul.

I am not blind, you would say what you said to everyone that doses not believe what you do.

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Well then, I'm out of here since I don't feel like arguing about this.

H. Richard said:

Stupid question but it shows you are reaching for straws. All of Paul's writings are to me since I am a Gentile and he was sent to the Gentiles (ME) by Jesus. Or don't you believe he was?

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No; Philippians is not to you because it is written to the saints at Philippi with the bishops and deacons; on the same principle that James is not written to you.

H. Richard said:

2 Tim 3:15-16
15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
NKJV

The above is what Paul wrote. At the time he wrote it there was only the writings of the O.T. It is only the religious that think Paul was writing about the book of James.

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The word of the Lord is timeless; God knew what He was going to include in the canon of holy scripture: and therefore when Paul wrote that all scripture is inspired of the Lord, it was the Holy Spirit testifying about everything that would ever be holy scripture in the canon of the Holy Bible.

Therefore, James is indeed profitable for doctrine, etc..

H. Richard said:

If a person goes back under the law they are accursed according to Paul.

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Paul was talking about those who who go back to seeking to be justified by the law...iow, those who would seek to save themselves by what they do.

Our relationship to the law as believers has changed. We are no longer condemned by the law from the outside (and this is what it means when it says that we are not under the law, are dead to the law, and are delivered from the law); however we continue to be governed by the law from the inside. In Romans 8:7 it teaches us that if we are spiritually-minded, we are subject to the law in our minds. In context, the spiritually-minded person is the one who walks according to the Spirit rather than the flesh; and those who are not spiritually-minded are none of Christ's for they do not belong to Christ.

In Romans 5:5 we are told that the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost who is given to us; and in Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, and Romans 8:4, we are told that this love is the fulfilling of the law.

And in these things, Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16 hold true: that the law is written in the minds and on the hearts of all those who are under the new covenant. Therefore, those who are under the new covenant are governed by the law from the inside; as we are filled with the love of the Lord which is the fulfilling of the law within us.

Furthermore, in Galatians 5:22-23 we are told that if we bear the fruit of the Spirit, there is no law that will condemn our behaviour. Therefore when we bear the fruit of the Spirit, the result is that we will be law-abiding citizens of the kingdom; while we are not achieving this by attempting to obey a set of do's and don'ts.

And finally, in Romans 3:21, there is a righteousness that we are given apart from the law; and yet the law and the prophets both testify to the fact that it is righteousness indeed! I will let you consider what this means.

In Romans 3:20 and 1 John 3:4, the teaching is that the law defines sin for us. And it is also written,

1Co 15:34, Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.