The Difference Between Fundamentalist (SOME) and The Rest Of Us.

Nancy · Sep 28, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
Hey, be sweet, I like him, he is 'refreshing'.
This Site has got too stuffy and needs loosening up again, like it used to be ....eh @Nancy ?

I couldn't agree more.

Nancy · Sep 28, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
Hey, be sweet, I like him, he is 'refreshing'.
This Site has got too stuffy and needs loosening up again, like it used to be ....eh @Nancy ?

I couldn't agree more.

Helen · Sep 28, 2019

Twice eh @Nancy what happened there?

Enoch111 · Sep 28, 2019

Nancy said:
I couldn't agree more.

Didn't you see that I asked him to set up a microbrewery and invite the deer and the bears to some homemade brew (while he mows his lawn)? But he would have to take responsibility for any moose which got ticketed for DUI.

Episkopos · Sep 29, 2019

jshiii said:
A Fundamentalist (some, not all) worst nightmare...confessing their sin in the light. (In public)

Some Fundamentalist will not dare bring their sins into the light! The rest of us will! There is a lot of self-righteous Fundamentalist on the Christianity Boards. I love you all, but you are in error...you value the Law over the Love of Christ. Don't be self-righteous, instead worship the love of God, his mercy, his grace and UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.....practice Christ-Like Love. This post is for Christians only. I'm not scared in the least to bring my sins into the light. Only Fundamentalist (some) do not do that. Don't keep your sins in darkness where the evil one will get a foothold.

Ps. Watch some of these Fundamentalist (some,not all), they will start posting scripture for defense. Because they are perfect. They have no sins.

I'll take the lead. In My Present:

These may not necessarily break the Law of the 10 Commandments and our Lord will convict me in his time, not your time.

1 I like to drink a few Nyquils before bed when I have a cold/flu (Yikes it has alcohol)
2. I am selfish at times
3. I love the taste of Copenhagen
4. I'm guilty of being obsessed with Jesus Christ as my Savior. (Oops, that is not a sin)
5. I eat PIZZA, WHICH IS SO UNHEALTHY! (Doesn't do the Temple of God well , the body)
By the way, I just ate a pizza at 09/27/2019, 1230am eastern time...5lbs overweight (teardrops)
6. Sometimes I get angry and say mean things to my spouse.
7. Sometimes I make promises i do not keep.
8. I sometimes put my boat before God (this makes me very sad)
No one is Perfect. Well Fundamentalist (Some,not all) are....sigh

These definitely break the the law of the 10 commandments!
In my past (while I was still a Christian) I was Guilty of:

1. Adultery
2. Coveting
3. I think I stole a pen from work.
4. I'm sure there were more
I have repented of all these! And only God knows if I will get weak and fall flat on my face again.

Like I said, some Fundamentalist will try and use Law to minimize this post, they are perfect and self-righteous. I will take this back when they admit they are not perfect by naming something they are guilty of?

This is the Real Point "I worship a God Of Love, Not The Law"
"I'm still on that narrow road, and Our Lord is changing me into his Christ Like Image/Mind!"

Some Fundamentalist still haven't listed a sin they are guilty of! They worship the Law and are to FULL OF PRIDE to confess. I practice humility and humbleness. I confess all! (private and public) Search my Heart Lord so that I can Confess. Please Humble those in this forum, that they may confess also. Please destroy their self righteous pride.

We all indulge our flesh to some degree...unless we are crucified AWAY from our own strength...and into His.

Many Christians seek to please God and pray about what God's will is...even on a daily or even hourly basis. And this is a good thing. But even here there will be some self-indulgence...perhaps without our even realizing that we are still doing what we want to do. So we tend to put a high value on personal freedom. This isn't wrong...but it is insufficient to be counted as being fully God's.

A full surrender entails a sacrificial offering of ourselves to God...so as to be removed from our own indulgences and pleasures...in order to be made available to fully serve our Lord. This is not only commendable but highly recommended among they who profess to love and serve the Lord.

But there is also a tendency to judge others severely while judging ourselves lightly. So maybe we don't indulge our flesh quite as much as others seem to. But ANY indulgence is still indulgence. So we ought not to condemn others for what we do ourselves. And we must indulge ourselves to some degree if we are not empowered from above.

So we ought to encourage one another to the full sacrificial offering of ourselves to God in Christ...but this is to be done by example...not by judging ourselves to be less sinful than others in a self-congratulatory way. Self-righteousness is still a form of self-indulgence...actually it is the very worst kind of self-indulgence.

So we ought to know ourselves and our weakness to be worthy followers of Christ...and seek the Lord with that in mind. He may yet strengthen us with His grace so that we enter into a walk in the victory afforded to us by faith purchased for us at the cross of Christ.

But we must also be crucified from this life and it's attractions and seductive power if we are to walk with Christ.

There is what is good...but also that which is perfect. When we put on Christ we are walking in His perfected humanity...whereby it is He doing the works and getting the glory.

The kingdom of God is based on a selfless service to God and others. It is better to give than to receive. This is the opposite of the world.

So much for what this world has to offer us in appealing to our selfish natures. Religion also appeals to our selfish natures and is more insidious in it's nature.

I am convinced that being in the flesh is like trying to pour too much water into too small a glass. There is going to be spillage of some sort. Better to not judge the spillage of another. Better to see to our own spillage. But the best thing is to seek the Lord and present ourselves as a living sacrifice so that we might be empowered by His grace so as to walk in HIS power. Then there is not a single drop of spillage.

Nancy · Sep 29, 2019

Episkopos said:
We all indulge our flesh to some degree...unless we are crucified AWAY from our own strength...and into His.

Many Christians seek to please God and pray about what God's will is...even on a daily or even hourly basis. And this is a good thing. But even here there will be some self-indulgence...perhaps without our even realizing that we are still doing what we want to do. So we tend to put a high value on personal freedom. This isn't wrong...but it is insufficient to be counted as being fully God's.

A full surrender entails a sacrificial offering of ourselves to God...so as to be removed from our own indulgences and pleasures...in order to be made available to fully serve our Lord. This is not only commendable but highly recommended among they who profess to love and serve the Lord.

But there is also a tendency to judge others severely while judging ourselves lightly. So maybe we don't indulge our flesh quite as much as others seem to. But ANY indulgence is still indulgence. So we ought not to condemn others for what we do ourselves. And we must indulge ourselves to some degree if we are not empowered from above.

So we ought to encourage one another to the full sacrificial offering of ourselves to God in Christ...but this is to be done by example...not by judging ourselves to be less sinful than others in a self-congratulatory way. Self-righteousness is still a form of self-indulgence...actually it is the very worst kind of self-indulgence.

So we ought to know ourselves and our weakness to be worthy followers of Christ...and seek the Lord with that in mind. He may yet strengthen us with His grace so that we enter into a walk in the victory afforded to us by faith purchased for us at the cross of Christ.

But we must also be crucified from this life and it's attractions and seductive power if we are to walk with Christ.

There is what is good...but also that which is perfect. When we put on Christ we are walking in His perfected humanity...whereby it is He doing the works and getting the glory.

The kingdom of God is based on a selfless service to God and others. It is better to give than to receive. This is the opposite of the world.

So much for what this world has to offer us in appealing to our selfish natures. Religion also appeals to our selfish natures and is more insidious in it's nature.

I am convinced that being in the flesh is like trying to pour too much water into too small a glass. There is going to be spillage of some sort. Better to not judge the spillage of another. Better to see to our own spillage. But the best thing is to seek the Lord and present ourselves as a living sacrifice so that we might be empowered by His grace so as to walk in HIS power. Then there is not a single drop of spillage.

Welcome back, how was the trip?

Episkopos · Sep 29, 2019

Nancy said:
Welcome back, how was the trip?

Thank you. Good to be back! Learned a lot about self-indulgence!

It was a good time with Dot...meeting people and enjoyed the ocean. But also God spoke to me about the human condition that seeks to indulge in the pleasures of this temporal life. So I could love the people even while I saw the excess. A very interesting trip. !

Nancy · Sep 29, 2019

Episkopos said:
Thank you. Good to be back! Learned a lot about self-indulgence! It was a good time with Dot...meeting people and enjoyed the ocean. But also God spoke to me about the human condition that seeks to indulge in the pleasures of this temporal life. So I could love the people even while I saw the excess. A very interesting trip. !

Awesome, so glad you are both back safely. Yeah, the "human condition"...I have tasted what this world has to offer and it has left a bad taste in my mouth. NOTHING temporal will fulfill us, ever.

amadeus · Sep 29, 2019

Nancy said:
Ahahaha! I used to sing that song as a kid! I'm an old soul...born too late I suppose

I was already out of the army and attending San Jose State College/University when it was popular [around 1968].

amadeus · Sep 29, 2019

@Episkopos
Welcome back! Glad you gained some good things from your trip. I really wish I could take my wife on such a such a trip, but unfortunately the cost of living increases while our income remains the same. It's OK because we went lots of places when we were young and really wanting to go places.
Give God the glory!

Nancy · Sep 29, 2019

amadeus said:
I was already out of the army and attending San Jose State College/University when it was popular [around 1968].

Yep...I was ten years old and had already had a transistor radio that had to be surgically removed from my ear! Then, got my first blue plastic turn table...and off it went from there until today...music is my passion! It lifts my spirits!

Windmillcharge · Sep 30, 2019

jshiii said:
Well I would probably never post anything if I waited until I was perfect

You don't even realize what you just said WindmillCharge.

I know what I wrote. Posters cannot use the excuse I am a poor writer.

illini1959 · Sep 30, 2019

jshiii said:
I am a Fundamentalist, but i'm not a self-righteous one. Fundamentalist take all scripture literally and I am at liberty to disagree on some scriptures, there is not just one type of Fundamentalist, we can all vary on secondary doctrine. However, we need to be careful of not becoming self-righteous as I have seen some fall in this trap.

I'm sorry for the confusion in my post. My thoughts were aimed more at the self righteous, than the Fundamentalist.

Taking all scripture literally is a bit dangerous, since not all scripture is literal.

There's the poetic, the allegory, the visionary (e.g., Revelation), parables, all manner of figures of speech.

I do agree completely on the self-righteousness; dangerous ground to be on. Nobody knows everything in full. No human

Heart2Soul · Sep 30, 2019

jshiii said:
A Fundamentalist (some, not all) worst nightmare...confessing their sin in the light. (In public)

Some Fundamentalist will not dare bring their sins into the light! The rest of us will! There is a lot of self-righteous Fundamentalist on the Christianity Boards. I love you all, but you are in error...you value the Law over the Love of Christ. Don't be self-righteous, instead worship the love of God, his mercy, his grace and UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.....practice Christ-Like Love. This post is for Christians only. I'm not scared in the least to bring my sins into the light. Only Fundamentalist (some) do not do that. Don't keep your sins in darkness where the evil one will get a foothold.

Ps. Watch some of these Fundamentalist (some,not all), they will start posting scripture for defense. Because they are perfect. They have no sins.

I'll take the lead. In My Present:

These may not necessarily break the Law of the 10 Commandments and our Lord will convict me in his time, not your time.

1 I like to drink a few Nyquils before bed when I have a cold/flu (Yikes it has alcohol)
2. I am selfish at times
3. I love the taste of Copenhagen
4. I'm guilty of being obsessed with Jesus Christ as my Savior. (Oops, that is not a sin)
5. I eat PIZZA, WHICH IS SO UNHEALTHY! (Doesn't do the Temple of God well , the body)
By the way, I just ate a pizza at 09/27/2019, 1230am eastern time...5lbs overweight (teardrops)
6. Sometimes I get angry and say mean things to my spouse.
7. Sometimes I make promises i do not keep.
8. I sometimes put my boat before God (this makes me very sad)
No one is Perfect. Well Fundamentalist (Some,not all) are....sigh

These definitely break the the law of the 10 commandments!
In my past (while I was still a Christian) I was Guilty of:

1. Adultery
2. Coveting
3. I think I stole a pen from work.
4. I'm sure there were more
I have repented of all these! And only God knows if I will get weak and fall flat on my face again.

Like I said, some Fundamentalist will try and use Law to minimize this post, they are perfect and self-righteous. I will take this back when they admit they are not perfect by naming something they are guilty of?

This is the Real Point "I worship a God Of Love, Not The Law"
"I'm still on that narrow road, and Our Lord is changing me into his Christ Like Image/Mind!"

Some Fundamentalist still haven't listed a sin they are guilty of! They worship the Law and are to FULL OF PRIDE to confess. I practice humility and humbleness. I confess all! (private and public) Search my Heart Lord so that I can Confess. Please Humble those in this forum, that they may confess also. Please destroy their self righteous pride.

I understand where you are coming from....this is a very challenging place to be transparent about your sins, IMHO. LOL...so kudos to you for demonstrating the confidence and faith you have in Him to be merciful and to let His grace be sufficient. People, in their ignorance, judge outwardly but our Father judges inwardly.
I don't like all the labels people use these days....fundamentalists, cessasionist....etc. For me it's either you are saved or your not, a child of God or your not, a Christian or your not, a believer or your not.....get my drift?
Thanks for sharing, I know your heart is in the right place!

marks · Sep 30, 2019

Nancy said:
Yep...I was ten years old and had already had a transistor radio that had to be surgically removed from my ear! Then, got my first blue plastic turn table...and off it went from there until today...music is my passion! It lifts my spirits!

That was me, 10 years old with a 2" square blue plastic transistor radio between my ear and my pillow.

Much love!

jshiii · Sep 30, 2019

Enoch111 said:
Good advice. He forgot to put down *poor communication* as one of his failings.

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, this Non-Fundamentalist has yet to show us where the Bible asks Christians to broadcast their sins and failings to the whole world (which is what Internet communication is).

I was just pointing out the self-righteous, that's all Enoch. Self-Righteous Christians would not dare expose their imperfections. However, enough said.

Earburner · Sep 30, 2019

Phoneman777 said:
Hi, as a staunch Conservative Fundamentalist, please allow me a few words of rebuttal:

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Fundamentalists know we are saved by grace but judged by works because works - or the lack thereof - are the evidence for whether we are truly saved by grace. (Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV)

Non-Fundamentalists believe the fatal deception that grace is a license to continue in sin.
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Fundamentalists recognize the shame of our weaknesses apart from Christ, but focus instead on uniting our weakness with His strength to overcome sin which is available to anyone and everyone who chooses to take hold of it. (Romans 6:14-16 KJV)
It is apparent that do not comprehend Mat. 5

Non-fundamentalists believe the fatal deception that being proud of one's weaknesses - for which they do not pray, fast, or plead to overcome - affords them a cloak of humility which they vainly seek as a substitute for Christ's Robe of Righteousness.
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Fundamentalists know that Christ came to "save His people from their sin". (Matthew 1:21 KJV)

Non-fundamentalists believe the fatal deception that Christ came to same them in their sin.
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Fundamentalists know that the Ten Commandments "stand fast forever and ever" and are the standard by which we will be judged. (Psalms 111:7-8 KJV; James 2:10-12 KJV)

Non-fundamentalists believe the fatal deception that "freedom in Christ" is a license to break them.
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Fundamentalists know that we can never receive by dead faith that which can only be received by living faith: eternal life. (James 2:17-18 KJV)

Non-fundamentals believe the fatal deception that they may receive by dead faith that which can only be received by living faith: eternal life.
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Would you go to a doctor who rejects the fundamentals of medicine? Or a mechanic who rejects the fundamentals of automotive technology? Or an investor who rejects the fundamentals of finance? But, so many today reject the Fundamentalist Bible preacher and flock to Non-fundamentalist, emergent church false prophets to have their itchy ears scratched, their oil changed for blown engine, and their money multiplied by men who do nothing but "fleece the flock". How sad.

It is apparent that "Fundies" do not comprehend the depth of Mat. 5[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Reggie Belafonte · Oct 1, 2019

Earburner said:
It is apparent that "Fundies" do not comprehend the depth of Mat. 5[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Spot on !

I don't like the fundies much at all, it's a creep show and come across as very Nazi like too me, that's the ones who claim that they are such to me in the flesh that I know of but sure under such a heading as such there can be a huge difference between one and the other types.

I believe that we all have fundamental position, maybe a foundational-ist could be a more to the point of what we should be about, as everything that we believe must have a solid foundation to build on and my so called fundie mate and his gurus that control him like a dog are extremely controlling, they come across to me as dictating ranting nuts and love only to bully people that what they say is fact, but I find them to be extremely worldly and they have so many plans that are truly just on a mans works in fact and I can see straight through such nonsense.

Now they will say a lot of things but that's all that they do, say things like for one, they say they are against works based religion but the fact is that they are totally immersed in such them selves, but they can't see it

. not to mention that they have no Grace for one ! and they are full of anger and hate and that's why they claim to want to rule with a rod of iron, clearly that is their game plan. not to mention rant and rave about topics that they don't truly understand and are constantly attacking with just blind vengeance other Christian religions esp the RCC. Now I don't mind such but really some of what they say proves that they are possessed by Satan, as they truly love to lie and slander and one of the most disgusting things about them is that they idolise the Anti-Christ so called Jews.
Anyone who does not understand that the Jews are in fact Anti-Christ must be possessed by Satan, because no Christian could be so stupid not to understand this fact.

I am sure that their is good fundamentalist out their but it's not the type that I have come across in person, they only want to dictate to me and they will never sit down and listen to me truly at all openly, as that is not their game as they only push indoctrination and never education.
They are just like the Islamist and the Jews and Jehovah witnesses, Mormons etc that they only peddle a mans works religion, trying to brain wash their victims, you must this and we all believe this and that

and when they realise that they can not play you they get angry and will not sit down but get up and walk off. but they have come to see me and I will talk with them till the cows come home, but it's their religion that they are bound too and not Jesus Christ and that's a fact.

Helen · Oct 1, 2019

Reggie Belafonte said:
I am sure that their is good fundamentalist out their but it's not the type that I have come across in person, they only want to dictate to me and they will never sit down and listen to me truly at all openly, as that is not their game as they only push indoctrination and never education.

Good post.

In a nut shell would you say that fundamentalist are all head and no heart?
The ones I have rubbed shoulders with are...all works and no faith.
And most have no idea at all or vision of the works and moving of the Holy Spirit.

I think that which divides fundamentalist and non -fundamentalist is "being led by the Spirit."
They may understand the meaning of the Word but that have no understanding of the Spirit of the Word.
ie they say- "any verse just means what it means, the Spirit does not mean anything else through that verse."

But then again, maybe my understanding of fundamentalists is different.

Heart2Soul · Oct 1, 2019

Willie T said:
I think pizza without beer is sinful!

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