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I want to come to that place of completeness and experience the fullness of God through Jesus and the Holy Spirit...

What's your take on this?

"But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet show I unto you a more excellent way." I Cor 12:31
Usually that word, "covet", is something we should Not do, but Paul's writing here has shown the opposite direction with the same word. It is not as simply as that although it really is simply... for God. Are we to covet the seven Spirits of God? Well I would say that we are to covet "good" things and not evil ones. So then I would say, yes, we are... if they are good and we do not covet them for the selfish purposes of the 'old man'. In other words, 'Take the right road!'
 
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"But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet show I unto you a more excellent way." I Cor 12:31
Usually that word, "covet", is something we should Not do, but Paul's writing here has shown the opposite direction with the same word. It is not as simply as that although it really is simply... for God. Are we to covet the seven Spirits of God? Well I would say that we are to covet "good" things and not evil ones. So then I would say, yes, we are... if they are good and we do not covet them for the selfish purposes of the 'old man'. In other words, 'Take the right road!'
Bless you, @amadeus, such encouraging words......and yes, yes, yes.....I do covet the gifts, but more than that I covet a deeper relationship with Him. I feel I am so far from where I want to be....but I do seek Him continually. (wish my flesh would get out of the way...HA!....2 steps forward and 1 step back...at least I am still moving forward!:D)
 

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In the name of the Lord Jesus you're welcome. a little bit of information that also may help you.
the seven Spirit are the Seven "GIFTS" that are listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8 - 10 but are of the same Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal."
1 Corinthians 12:8 "For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;"
1 Corinthians 12:9 "To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;"
1 Corinthians 12:10 "To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:"
1 Corinthians 12:11 "But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will."

here's a breakdown of these gifts,
Gift #1. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
(this is the Pastoral Gifts, both go together, (see Jeremiah 3:15)

Gift #2. 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; (always wondered why some people faith is stronger than others? it's a gift)

Gift #3. to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

Gift #4. 10 To another the working of miracles;

Gift #5. to another prophecy; (the office of prophets, as Paul was alao, see 1 Corinthians 13:2)

Gift #6. to another discerning of spirits;

Gift #7 to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: (also these to go hand in hand also, see acts chapter 2)

so the Seven Spirit are the Gifts of "ONE" same self Spirit.... the Lord Jesus, again see John chapter 14.

Hoped this helped.

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So that picture of the Menorah....showing the 7 spirits of God.....that seems to describe Jesus....but He had the Holy Spirit.......ugh...so much to learn.
 
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So that picture of the Menorah....showing the 7 spirits of God.....that seems to describe Jesus....but He had the Holy Spirit.......ugh...so much to learn.

That picture of the Menorah seemed like the 7 candlesticks that Jesus was discussing in the beginning of Revelation 1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." But then again, he talks to the angels of the churches in the 7 letters, so maybe both?
 

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So that picture of the Menorah....showing the 7 spirits of God.....that seems to describe Jesus....but He had the Holy Spirit.......ugh...so much to learn.
yes, spot on. you might want to read Zechariah chapter 4 on the Menorah, here also, is where I found more info on the two witness John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus in his natural state, filled with the Spirit. there's so much to learn about our God, JESUS, who is the Christ in glorified flesh, (John 17:5, and that glorification is in Spirit).

the way I learned of him as the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the COMFORTER, was the revelation of John chapter 14. when our Lord said that he would come to them, (John 14:18) and said that he would "manifest" himself to them, (John 14:22), that open the door of my understanding of him as the Holy Spirit. for a manifestation is not an "apperance" directly. in his second coming, (Hebrews 9:28) is a bodily one. so his return is in a two fold return, (Spirit first), then bodily. for when Judas, not Iscariot, asked how he would manifest himself, (John 14:22), that was the key for me. for 1 Corinthians chapter 12 certified this "MANIFESTATION", as well as Joel 2:28 & 29. 1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal." that "manifestation" is of the Spiritual "GIFTS" which (the Lord Jesus said he would manifest), follows in verses 8-10. so our Lord's "MANIFESTATION" was in the Spiritual gifts, the Seven Gifts, the symbol of the Menorah you quoted, and when he returns in bodily form, then every eye will see him then. so yes, there is so much to learn.

by the way, it reveals the "first resurrection" which is on going even, as we speak. so yes, there is much, we mean so much more to understand and learn.

I pray that the Lord give you knowledge and understanding of his holy word.
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That picture of the Menorah seemed like the 7 candlesticks that Jesus was discussing in the beginning of Revelation 1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." But then again, he talks to the angels of the churches in the 7 letters, so maybe both?
interestingly enough the candlestick is a great study. One of my favorites has to do with the main stem. It was called the servant and feed all the other arms and they number six the number of man Of course that pictures Christ and the Holy Spirit, the oil comes through the Lord.
 

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That picture of the Menorah seemed like the 7 candlesticks that Jesus was discussing in the beginning of Revelation 1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." But then again, he talks to the angels of the churches in the 7 letters, so maybe both?
Not saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this. the term "angel" simply means "MESSENGER", which can mean angelic, or human. the seven angels or Messangers are the pastors/bishops, or the person(s) who are in charge of the feeding of God sheep.

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Not saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this. the term "angel" simply means "MESSENGER", which can mean angelic, or human. the seven angels or Messangers are the pastors/bishops, or the person(s) who are in charge of the feeding of God sheep.

PICJAG.

It's interesting, and I can't say I'm right either or that you're wrong. So I'm just thinking aloud here.

I would think though, if "messenger" could be either angelic or human, why then use the word "angel" in the letters and not just "human" or "human leader"?

Angels have been involved in earthly matters here and there throughout scriptures, such as Gabriel visiting Mary, Lot and the two angels escorting him away, Michael disputing the body of Moses with the devil, etc. So why wouldn't the word angel not mean angel, when it hasn't throughout any other area of the Bible they occur in?

And of course this could spawn a whole different conversation of "are angels spirits", especially if they can appear to be human, or at least human form.
 

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So I'm just thinking aloud here.
keep on thinking out loud, great things happens when this is done. I encourage you.

as of angels, messages yes, but not the gospel, which men are to carry. see titus 1:3

so we commend your speaking out. you will get no trouble from us, Iron sharpen Iron.
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as of angels, messages yes, but not the gospel, which men are to carry. see titus 1:3

Right,so then wouldn't Jesus write unto the angels, which then give the messages to the men in the churches and their congregation. Jesus -> angels -> men/church leaders.
 

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Right,so then wouldn't Jesus write unto the angels, which then give the messages to the men in the churches and their congregation. Jesus -> angels -> men/church leaders.
no need to write to the angels, but they can convey the message to men but it's men who disseminate the gospel.
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This may help you understand.
1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:"
1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."
1 Peter 1:12 "Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into."
salvation is of men, not angels.
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That picture of the Menorah seemed like the 7 candlesticks that Jesus was discussing in the beginning of Revelation 1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." But then again, he talks to the angels of the churches in the 7 letters, so maybe both?
But this specifically is about the 7 Spirits of God....only mentioned 4 times in scripture and all 4 in Revelation.
 

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yes, spot on. you might want to read Zechariah chapter 4 on the Menorah, here also, is where I found more info on the two witness John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus in his natural state, filled with the Spirit. there's so much to learn about our God, JESUS, who is the Christ in glorified flesh, (John 17:5, and that glorification is in Spirit).

the way I learned of him as the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the COMFORTER, was the revelation of John chapter 14. when our Lord said that he would come to them, (John 14:18) and said that he would "manifest" himself to them, (John 14:22), that open the door of my understanding of him as the Holy Spirit. for a manifestation is not an "apperance" directly. in his second coming, (Hebrews 9:28) is a bodily one. so his return is in a two fold return, (Spirit first), then bodily. for when Judas, not Iscariot, asked how he would manifest himself, (John 14:22), that was the key for me. for 1 Corinthians chapter 12 certified this "MANIFESTATION", as well as Joel 2:28 & 29. 1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal." that "manifestation" is of the Spiritual "GIFTS" which (the Lord Jesus said he would manifest), follows in verses 8-10. so our Lord's "MANIFESTATION" was in the Spiritual gifts, the Seven Gifts, the symbol of the Menorah you quoted, and when he returns in bodily form, then every eye will see him then. so yes, there is so much to learn.

by the way, it reveals the "first resurrection" which is on going even, as we speak. so yes, there is much, we mean so much more to understand and learn.

I pray that the Lord give you knowledge and understanding of his holy word.
PICJAG.
You have given me a lot to study here....thank you. Thanks for the prayers as well!
 

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But this specifically is about the 7 Spirits of God....only mentioned 4 times in scripture and all 4 in Revelation.

I was thinking you were taking a different meaning with this comment: "I am also beginning to really understand Revelation as the book of completeness since everything is related to the number 7" in post #2. I took that to mean you were wanting to discuss all the 7s that were involved in Revelation...not just to do with the 7 Spirits of God. My bad if not, sorry for the mixup.
 
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no need to write to the angels, but they can convey the message to men but it's men who disseminate the gospel.
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Jesus did write to them though: "unto the angel of the church of...". It says it in chapters 2 - 4. Why else would he include the angels of those churches if it wasn't necessary, for "literary aestetic"?
 

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Good morning forum! Well I am still studying in Revelation.....it is not a book you can just read through and be done so it is taking me a great deal of time to get even half way....so here is another NEW revelation the Holy Spirit has opened my eyes to see and I put out here for comment....
Revelation 4:5
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Seven spirits of God? well....this made me want to study and research what the seven Spirits of God are and this is what I have found so far.
Isaiah 11:1-3
1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;

3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

Revelation 3:1
“To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of Him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars.”

Revelation 5:6
“Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it has been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. He has seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.”

As I continued to study and research I found almost all teachers on the subject say that the seven Spirits of God are the 7 attributes of the Holy Spirit.....one even states that is is the perfect completeness of the Holy Spirit.....and Revelation 5:6 seems to back this up with the "sent out into all the earth"....and He has 7 horns and 7 eyes....so I had to look up this....
Seven=Fullness
Seven Horns=Fullness of Power
Seven Eyes=Fullness of Insight

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As I am continuing to learn this really struck me so profoundly that I prayed and asked God to let me experience the fullness of the Holy Spirit in my life....the 7 anointings of God.....

This is a comment made by an individual:
God is complex and so is the work of the holy spirit as well.. 7 is the number of spiritual perfection.. to be perfect we should experience all of God 7 anointings now too..

The Holy Spirit is a person who combines the 7 Spirits of God, EXPRESSIONS OF GOD’S CHARACTER, PERSONALITY OR NATURE
7 Spiritual anointings, 7 Spirits of God

Also here is the link to the source I referenced as well:
Do You Know the 7 Spirits of God? - by James W. Goll

I want to come to that place of completeness and experience the fullness of God through Jesus and the Holy Spirit...

What's your take on this?

It's uncanny that this topic was brought up because I too am studying Revelations and wondered about the seven spirits of God yesterday.
 

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Jesus did write to them though: "unto the angel of the church of...". It says it in chapters 2 - 4. Why else would he include the angels of those churches if it wasn't necessary, for "literary aestetic"?
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First thanks for the reply, second, not saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this. it was John who was instructed to write to the 7 churches, and it was John who wrote it. listen. Revelation 1:9 "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ."
Revelation 1:10 "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,"
Revelation 1:11 "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea."

see, the Lord Jesus sent his angel, his hevenly messenger, to John to show, not write, but to show John the vision. but it was John who wrote. watch the instructions, Revelation 1:19 "Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;" so the book of Revelation is a three fold book, past, present, and future. with me being taught of the Holy Ghost, I was Instructed to start at chapter 12 first, (the birth of the flesh that our Lord, and God Jesus came in to save us, the son) and work my way back to the seven churches and then return to chapter 13 forward. when I did that I got a complete picture of the books totality, and understanding. it may help others readers in that way.

now John, as in Revelation 1:11 was instructed to writ to the 7 churches, and each was John's writing as to what he saw. and each church had a (angel, symbolic for), "overseer"/Bishop/Pastor... ect. definition of angel here,
G32 ἄγγελος aggelos (an'-ğe-los) n.
1. a messenger.
2. (especially) an “angel” of God.
3. (of evil, Satan) a demon.
4. (by implication) a person carrying forth a message from God, i.e. a servant (a disciple, pastor, elder, prophet, etc.).
5. (also, by implication) a thing or event carrying forth a message from God, i.e. a hardship (pestilence, wind, etc.), or an animal (donkey, locusts, etc.).
[from aggello “to bring tidings” (possibly derived from G71)]
KJV: angel, messenger

so an angel of these churches are "a disciple, pastor, elder, prophet, etc", for if one read the 7 letters, one will see it is speaking to human men and women.

and if one follow the narrative of the books, John is instructed to write, or not to wright, Rev 10:4, Rev 14:13, Rev 19:9, and Rev 21:5.

hoped this helped,
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So that picture of the Menorah....showing the 7 spirits of God.....that seems to describe Jesus....but He had the Holy Spirit.......ugh...so much to learn.

For more on the Menorah or Golden Lampstand please see our blog post entitled "The Only Way", beginning at Part 17 it may shed some needed light on the subject.