I'm just wondering who thinks paul is a liar??

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As in my title, I would like to know who thinks paul is a liar. No evidence need be presented.
 

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As in my title, I would like to know who thinks paul is a liar. No evidence need be presented.
Everybody is a liar regardless. (Psalm 116:11)
 

chrissy

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to think paul is a liar is quite a statement though. many people love his teachings.
 

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to think paul is a liar is quite a statement though. many people love his teachings.
Well, I thought you were aiming at the general outlook. He is a liar, because he's human, like everybody else as I quote the verse on my previous statement.However, on being serious, It's not his teaching, but God's teaching as he was used by Lord Jesus Christ.
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What did paul lie about?
You are missing my point. No one on Earth ever told the Truth 100% except Christ.
 

chrissy

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I think my point is valid though. How can we make accurate judgement without knowing the lie a person told, to call the person a liar? I wonder if people thought Jesus was lying... Obviously the judgement being made there was wrong.
 

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Jordan isn't saying Pauls teachings contain lies, because in all honesty they aren't Pauls teachings. All scripture is God breathed. What Jordan is trying to say is that in everyday life people lie, Paul wasn't perfect. But thats not to say the scripture in which he was the author is not perfect, b/c it is. Understand?
 

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I agree with follower if you think Paul lied in scripture you are misunderstanding something all scripture is inspered by God you can not call Paul a liar wothout, it infering God lies. Which I dont think you mean at all. I would be intereseted in what you think he lied about about maybe we could discuss it and help you understand it better Paul often taught on three levels so some of his teaching can be hard to fully understand.
 

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Jordan isn't saying Pauls teachings contain lies, because in all honesty they aren't Pauls teachings. All scripture is God breathed. What Jordan is trying to say is that in everyday life people lie, Paul wasn't perfect. But thats not to say the scripture in which he was the author is not perfect, b/c it is. Understand?
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I agree with follower if you think Paul lied in scripture you are misunderstanding something all scripture is inspered by God you can not call Paul a liar wothout, it infering God lies. Which I dont think you mean at all. I would be intereseted in what you think he lied about about maybe we could discuss it and help you understand it better Paul often taught on three levels so some of his teaching can be hard to fully understand.
True, that's why the bible is a living book.
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By a Living God. Amen!
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Romans 9:1. If all men are liars except Jesus Christ. Why does paul say he lies not? Anyways, I just wondered who thought he was a liar.
 

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Romans 9:1. If all men are liars except Jesus Christ. Why does paul say he lies not? Anyways, I just wondered who thought he was a liar.
Romans 9:1 - I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,He said the Truth In Christ. It doesn't change the fact that Paul can lie... he fact, he is a sinner like everybody else. (Romans 3:10, Romans 3:23) Sinners always lies at least once in their lifetime. We are born in sin, so was Paul. God can't lie (Romans 3:4), but humans can. (Psalm 116:11) Now that I say the Truth in Christ.(chrissy;65333)
That would be a lie wouldn't it...?
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chrissy

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I wonder why people would speculate that paul lies in his scriptures...and who would speculate it...?
 

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I wonder why people would speculate that paul lies in his scriptures...and who would speculate it...?
I wasn't speaking him of lying in scriptures, just life, that's it.
 

Jordan

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I'm confused, you think he lies in scriptures?
He can, I mean look at Job, they are full of lies against Job. And Satan lieing to Eve (Genesis 3:1, Genesis 3:4-5) But since he was used by Christ, I don't believe that., but I can be proven wrong of course.Is Paul a Pharisee? (Acts 23:6) And Paul said this as well...Romans 11:1 - I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
 

Jordan

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paul is an apostle right...but wait I thought there were twelve though?
Well, yes Paul is an apostle of Jesus Christ. But he is not in the original twelve though.