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1 Corinthians 1:10
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

What is the mind of Christ? First it is the mind of Christ, simple enough! But what is the mind of Christ for believers? The mind of Christ is when you get individuals in the body of Christ that can see Christ in other believers. When the mind of Christ is working out of the believer, their main objective is seeing Christ in all believers. That unifies the body because not all believers can see Christ in other believers. They will in time as they are nudged along by the HolySpirit to come to understand the things of God and how unity works. Unity outside of Christ does not exsist, unity can only exsist where designed union has taken place,

1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

I'll use an extreme example; when a man or woman joins a gang they are looking for security, love , union, unity, and so on. They find that in their choice to join themselves to a gang. What is wrong with that unity? is it is false, false identity, false union, eveything about it is false because it is the way of the world and it is not a designed unity. So it usually doesn't end well, most members seperate and go their way making room for others.

So those that can see Christ in other believers keep the unity, they strive for it and become peace makers keeping the peace in the body as well as any situation they are in and around. They allow their new identity to swallow up the old false identity, striving to put their new identity in the world, religious or secular. In a nut shell that is Christ alive in his body reaching all that will. With the world heating up and the HolySpirit wooing men to Christ the mission field is eminence, but Christians can be everything the bible says you are, with Christ living in you and being expressed as the unique individual God created you to be,

Philippians 2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
 
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1 Corinthians 1:10
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

What is the mind of Christ? First it is the mind of Christ, simple enough! But what is the mind of Christ for believers? The mind of Christ is when you get individuals in the body of Christ that can see Christ in other believers. When the mind of Christ is working out of the believer, their main objective is seeing Christ in all believers. That unifies the body because not all believers can see Christ in other believers. They will in time as they are nudged along by the HolySpirit to come to understand the things of God and how unity works. Unity outside of Christ does not exsist, unity can only exsist where designed union has taken place,

1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

I'll use an extreme example; when a man or woman joins a gang they are looking for security, love , union, unity, and so on. They find that in their choice to join themselves to a gang. What is wrong with that unity? is it is false, false identity, false union, eveything about it is false because it is the way of the world and it is not a designed unity. So it usually doesn't end well, most members seperate and go their way making room for others.

So those that can see Christ in other believers keep the unity, they strive for it and become peace makers keeping the peace in the body as well as any situation they are in and around. They allow their new identity to swallow up the old false identity, striving to put their new identity in the world, religious or secular. In a nut shell that is Christ alive in his body reaching all that will. With the world heating up and the HolySpirit wooing men to Christ the mission field is eminence, but Christians can be everything the bible says you are, with Christ living in you and being expressed as the unique individual God created you to be,

Philippians 2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

“Having the mind of Christ is seeing Christ in the other believer”.

That’s a interesting take or thought. Going to have to chew on that one a bit. But I am most blessed to do so.

May Christ increase Himself in us, be blessed in Him, Not me
 
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Having the mind of Christ is having the Spirit of Christ. Christ in us, the hope of glory. Being conformed into the image of Christ is a process by which self is laid to rest, and Christ allowed in, to the extent eventually where He reigns over the thoughts and intents of the heart. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, is having the mind of self sacrificial love. Being willing to die for others. Putting others first. Having no thought for self, or survival, or self preservation, but being constantly mindful of the needs of others.
 
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1 Corinthians 1:10
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

What is the mind of Christ? First it is the mind of Christ, simple enough! But what is the mind of Christ for believers? The mind of Christ is when you get individuals in the body of Christ that can see Christ in other believers. When the mind of Christ is working out of the believer, their main objective is seeing Christ in all believers. That unifies the body because not all believers can see Christ in other believers. They will in time as they are nudged along by the HolySpirit to come to understand the things of God and how unity works. Unity outside of Christ does not exsist, unity can only exsist where designed union has taken place,

1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

I'll use an extreme example; when a man or woman joins a gang they are looking for security, love , union, unity, and so on. They find that in their choice to join themselves to a gang. What is wrong with that unity? is it is false, false identity, false union, eveything about it is false because it is the way of the world and it is not a designed unity. So it usually doesn't end well, most members seperate and go their way making room for others.

So those that can see Christ in other believers keep the unity, they strive for it and become peace makers keeping the peace in the body as well as any situation they are in and around. They allow their new identity to swallow up the old false identity, striving to put their new identity in the world, religious or secular. In a nut shell that is Christ alive in his body reaching all that will. With the world heating up and the HolySpirit wooing men to Christ the mission field is eminence, but Christians can be everything the bible says you are, with Christ living in you and being expressed as the unique individual God created you to be,

Philippians 2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Great verses there; and I was just going to quote also Philippians 2.5...and then I saw that you had quoted it also... :)
 

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“Having the mind of Christ is seeing Christ in the other believer”.

That’s a interesting take or thought. Going to have to chew on that one a bit. But I am most blessed to do so.

May Christ increase Himself in us, be blessed in Him, Not me

The mind of Christ see's Christ in other believers not because we all exemplify Christ perfect, but because it is the result of being born again. Those that see Christ in believers have come to understand how the father births his own children, and the result of that instantaneous action on the father's part is; Christ in you the hope of glory.
 
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The mind of Christ see's Christ in other believers not because we all exemplify Christ perfect, but because it is the result of being born again. Those that see Christ in believers have come to understand how the father births his own children, and the result of that instantaneous action on the father's part is; Christ in you the hope of glory.
The new birth is the key...:)
 

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The mind of Christ see's Christ in other believers not because we all exemplify Christ perfect, but because it is the result of being born again. Those that see Christ in believers have come to understand how the father births his own children, and the result of that instantaneous action on the father's part is; Christ in you the hope of glory.

I would agree with you that seeing Christ in a fellow believer is part of the Christian walk/life. This (I believe) does take a degree of maturity, for one should be able to sense Christ in all that have Christ in them, whether in a large or small degree, but Christ should be seen/sensed in a believers life.

That being said; As long as you are not limiting the mind of Christ to be only this.. For (I believe) having the mind of Christ would be much more. For (to me) having the mind of Christ would be a total dying to ones own will. A total death to self. For Christ humbled Himself and came to do the Father’s will in all things. Therefore (I believe) having the mind of Christ would be a absolute total giving over to God the life that we have in this world and a total a absolute trust in God in all things.

But this definition also leaves much to be desired. So to my fellow sojourners in Christ do I leave the Christ in us to be formed by Christ Himself. That the Spirit of prayer (our desire towards Him) might meet the Spirit of Love (His desire towards us) so the two might be joined and the fruit of that joining be seen in the life.

Great subject and be blessed as we grow in Him, Not me
 
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The more a believer see's Christ in other believers, the more they can see Christ in themselves. If you can picture in your mind how you think Christ would treat others, with kindness, caring about their situations, willing to reach out to best of his ability to touch mankind in a meaningful way, that is the Christ in you. He is everything to everyone around you Paul said. Paul put it like this; he would become all things to all men, that I might reach a few
That being said; As long as you are not limiting the mind of Christ to be only this.. For (I believe) having the mind of Christ would be much more.
Yes totally agree, I am referring to that as being part of the mind of Christ.
 

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The more a believer see's Christ in other believers, the more they can see Christ in themselves.

I’m of the belief, that only to the degree Christ has been formed, can He be seen. And than only by those that have eyes that see.


Yes totally agree, I am referring to that as being part of the mind of Christ.

I thought that’s what your meaning was intending.

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The more a believer see's Christ in other believers, the more they can see Christ in themselves. If you can picture in your mind how you think Christ would treat others, with kindness, caring about their situations, willing to reach out to best of his ability to touch mankind in a meaningful way, that is the Christ in you. He is everything to everyone around you Paul said. Paul put it like this; he would become all things to all men, that I might reach a few

Yes totally agree, I am referring to that as being part of the mind of Christ.
Paul said to the Philippians in chapter 2.5: 'Let this mind be in you...' :)
 
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1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
This is the verse that tells all. Notice Paul makes a distinction between the mind of God--this is a reference to Isaiah 40:13. Then he refers "but" to the mind of Christ. It is a statement that indicates that they were not speaking against the scriptures having the full knowledge of the Father, "but" indeed, they did have the mind of Christ. That difference being that even Christ did the will of Him who sent Him, with authority.
 

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I’m of the belief, that only to the degree Christ has been formed, can He be seen. And than only by those that have eyes that see.




I thought that’s what your meaning was intending.

Be blessed as we learn of Him, Not me
We need to develop spiritual discernment through prayer and the Scriptures, indeed.
 
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We need to develop spiritual discernment through prayer and the Scriptures, indeed.

So true it is, the reading of scripture and prayers are very great and important tools indeed, to get to know Christ Jesus on a real and personal bases.

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We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. (2 Corinthians 10:5)

Part of Spiritual Warfare has been a war of words or a war of thoughts. Someone aligned to the mind of Christ has a personal relationship with God. Having that personal relationship may be more of a journey. It started at some point, but like a marriage, it is a journey of getting to know God.

On that Journey, someone may end up developing The Power of the Tongue.

They work to not say false things. No exaggerations. No white lies. No half truths. Part of that may be working to perceive through God's Spirit. Jesus perceived, intuitive, through his Spirit. Various people with the mind of Christ may have learned to think and vote more alike. A man in China who has never spoken English, given he was growing in Faith, would be working in unison with a man in the United States whom he had never met. The goal is The Kingdom of God. Over time, they may have learned to think more correctly.

I found the following news article today:

Amazon Synod Report: I Want Confusion.

We are talking about the Power of the Tongue, and being in submission to the mind of Christ. In the news article, the Catholic Church and the Pope have seemed to be going some other way? It is worth mentioning regardless of if someone is Catholic or not because there have been similar things, and similar people, in Protestant Churches as well who have been sowing confusion and corruption. Is gay marriage, for example, something a Church should accept? Someone who was for that would seem to be more of a Secular Humanist and more "Socialist" or some ideology rather than Christian. Socialist have tended to see all religion as basically equal, and worked to oppress and marginalize Christianity, and have engaged in Spiritual Warfare forcing political correctness, forced or compelled speech and thought.
 

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Part of Spiritual Warfare has been a war of words or a war of thoughts. Someone aligned to the mind of Christ has a personal relationship with God. Having that personal relationship may be more of a journey. It started at some point, but like a marriage, it is a journey of getting to know God.

On that Journey, someone may end up developing The Power of the Tongue.

They work to not say false things. No exaggerations. No white lies. No half truths. Part of that may be working to perceive through God's Spirit. Jesus perceived, intuitive, through his Spirit. Various people with the mind of Christ may have learned to think and vote more alike. A man in China who has never spoken English, given he was growing in Faith, would be working in unison with a man in the United States whom he had never met. The goal is The Kingdom of God. Over time, they may have learned to think more correctly.

I liked what you wrote about someone who has a personal relationship with Christ being, as it were on the same wave length as someone whom they never have met, yet still being of the same mind. Which (I believe) is just the unity of the Spirit being manifested by the Spirit Himself. In other words, Christianity in practice.

Also how they would strive to do righteousness with their tongues.

Be blessed as He Himself makes Himself more real in us each and every day, Not me
 

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I liked what you wrote about someone who has a personal relationship with Christ being, as it were on the same wave length as someone whom they never have met, yet still being of the same mind. Which (I believe) is just the unity of the Spirit being manifested by the Spirit Himself. In other words, Christianity in practice.

Also how they would strive to do righteousness with their tongues.

Be blessed as He Himself makes Himself more real in us each and every day, Not me

One of the things that has helped me a lot in my journey with God has been the concept of Thumos. God has a righteous anger. The concept as written about by Plato goes a lot further than that. Thumos, as a concept is tied to reason. Someone growing in Faith and Reason, in a relationship with God, may be working aligned their thumos, their character, with God's character. They learn to see things more as God sees them. God may share some of his anger with a man, or a man may learn to be angry at the things God has been angry at. A man may need trials to test his faith. (James 1:2-4)

Post: "Thumos and Holy Fire."

Thumos may be a concept that a man rolls around in his head a for several weeks to a few months, and they pray and study their Bible. A strong understanding of Thumos may help counter a "Post Modern Mush god" that has been taught in many Churches since at least the 1980's. An understanding of Thumos may help adjust someone perspective and put them more on track depending on where they were in Faith.

Article: "Be Ye Angry and Sin Not." Leonard Ravenhill.
 

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One of the things that has helped me a lot in my journey with God has been the concept of Thumos. God has a righteous anger. The concept as written about by Plato goes a lot further than that. Thumos, as a concept is tied to reason. Someone growing in Faith and Reason, in a relationship with God, may be working aligned their thumos, their character, with God's character. They learn to see things more as God sees them. God may share some of his anger with a man, or a man may learn to be angry at the things God has been angry at. A man may need trials to test his faith. (James 1:2-4)

Post: "Thumos and Holy Fire."

Thumos may be a concept that a man rolls around in his head a for several weeks to a few months, and they pray and study their Bible. A strong understanding of Thumos may help counter a "Post Modern Mush god" that has been taught in many Churches since at least the 1980's. An understanding of Thumos may help adjust someone perspective and put them more on track depending on where they were in Faith.

Article: "Be Ye Angry and Sin Not." Leonard Ravenhill.

I’m of the mind;

I believe God is love and can only love and can only give acts of love to all, to the capacity they can receive them.

That which in scripture is called the wrath of God is just the natural outcome of something when it touches it’s contrary. God being good/love, when that goodness or love touches something to it’s contrary, that thing can only experience that goodness and love as it’s highest contrary. Therefore God is called a consuming fire but only to those that would live in the contrary to the good or love....For the experience of fire is the natural outcome of something that touches it’s highest contrary... Therefore there is no anger or wrath in the Divine Nature, only love.

When that man in the OT reached out to steady the Ark and instantly died, God was not mad at the man, but God was really and truly in the Ark, and death is the natural outcome of imperfection touching perfection. This is why God warned against touching the Ark, not in anger but in love to protect all.

This touching of the contraries is what I believe in scripture is called the wrath of God.

But we both are pressing into Christ on our journey’s to Him, so whatever draws you closer to Him be most blessed in yours, Not me
 
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I’m of the mind;

I believe God is love and can only love and can only give acts of love to all, to the capacity they can receive them.

That which in scripture is called the wrath of God is just the natural outcome of something when it touches it’s contrary. God being good/love, when that goodness or love touches something to it’s contrary, that thing can only experience that goodness and love as it’s highest contrary. Therefore God is called a consuming fire but only to those that would live in the contrary to the good or love....For the experience of fire is the natural outcome of something that touches it’s highest contrary... Therefore there is no anger or wrath in the Divine Nature, only love.

When that man in the OT reached out to steady the Ark and instantly died, God was not mad at the man, but God was really and truly in the Ark, and death is the natural outcome of imperfection touching perfection.

This touching of the contraries is what I believe in scripture is called the wrath of God.

But we both are pressing into Christ on our journey’s to Him, so whatever draws you closer to Him be most blessed in yours, Not me


What is love? God is love. (1 John 4:8) Jesus chastises and rebukes those he loves. (Hebrews 12:6)(Revelations 3:19)

Imagine a Drill Sergeant in the US Army. He has a job to do. His job may be preparing soldier for war, which is life and death. He may appear mean. He may appear rough. He may love his recruits, and his fellow soldiers, and by doing his job to the best of his abilities and training, he is performing an act of love. He chastise and rebukes his recruit when they are wrong. Why? It would be the right thing to do. There are standards. Someone is not making the standards in one thing, that may come back when it really matters in a life and death way for the recruit or other men. Someone who was lazy about keeping his weapon on safe could have an accident. Someone lazy about "attention to detail" be it making his bed in the right way, to how his uniform looks may not be paying "attention to detail" when it is more life and death, and bullets are flying.

How does someone show an love to God? Love is a two way street. Love may be doing. Jesus already paid the price. He died on the Cross. A man in Christ, bearing his cross, may be working to build The Kingdom of God.

Some men were friends of God like Abraham or Jacob or "The Friends of God Movement" from Germany which helped start a spiritual Renaissance. God is no one's friend as a figure of authority.

Someone like Jeremiah and Ezekiel may have been aware of God's Righteous anger. How or why? A man's body is a temple. The Spirit of God dwells within a man. God is long suffering. Through trials and seeking God's will, and being closed to God, God may have shared some things with Prophets Jeremiah and Ezekiel.

Does everyone need to know about God's Righteous Anger? Where is God at now and what is he doing? What is going on in prophecy? To answer these questions, someone may need to be aware of God's Anger. Spare the rod spoil the child? When a dad spanks his son, was it mean and cruel, or was it really an act of love? A dad who would like his son to grow into a mature and productive man who serves God well may have spanked his child when his child misbehaved. That would also be love.

  • The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name. (Exodus 15:3)
  • The LORD will march out like a champion, like a warrior he will stir up his zeal; with a shout he will raise the battle cry and will triumph over his enemies. (Isaiah 42:13)
  • "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. (Matthew 10:34)
God is not a mush God. Someone with a close relationship with God may experience a softer love like some Christians have given testimony to "The Ecstasies." Whatever of God's love you were taught at a Church may be mostly right. Given someone was taught "A mush God" they may have been selectively reading, and avoiding harder to deal with concepts that are also correct and true about God.
 

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What is love? God is love. (1 John 4:8) Jesus chastises and rebukes those he loves. (Hebrews 12:6)(Revelations 3:19)

Imagine a Drill Sergeant in the US Army. He has a job to do. His job may be preparing soldier for war, which is life and death. He may appear mean. He may appear rough. He may love his recruits, and his fellow soldiers, and by doing his job to the best of his abilities and training, he is performing an act of love. He chastise and rebukes his recruit when they are wrong. Why? It would be the right thing to do. There are standards. Someone is not making the standards in one thing, that may come back when it really matters in a life and death way for the recruit or other men. Someone who was lazy about keeping his weapon on safe could have an accident. Someone lazy about "attention to detail" be it making his bed in the right way, to how his uniform looks may not be paying "attention to detail" when it is more life and death, and bullets are flying.

How does someone show an love to God? Love is a two way street. Love may be doing. Jesus already paid the price. He died on the Cross. A man in Christ, bearing his cross, may be working to build The Kingdom of God.

Some men were friends of God like Abraham or Jacob or "The Friends of God Movement" from Germany which helped start a spiritual Renaissance. God is no one's friend as a figure of authority.

Someone like Jeremiah and Ezekiel may have been aware of God's Righteous anger. How or why? A man's body is a temple. The Spirit of God dwells within a man. God is long suffering. Through trials and seeking God's will, and being closed to God, God may have shared some things with Prophets Jeremiah and Ezekiel.

Does everyone need to know about God's Righteous Anger? Where is God at now and what is he doing? What is going on in prophecy? To answer these questions, someone may need to be aware of God's Anger. Spare the rod spoil the child? When a dad spanks his son, was it mean and cruel, or was it really an act of love? A dad who would like his son to grow into a mature and productive man who serves God well may have spanked his child when his child misbehaved. That would also be love.

  • The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name. (Exodus 15:3)
  • The LORD will march out like a champion, like a warrior he will stir up his zeal; with a shout he will raise the battle cry and will triumph over his enemies. (Isaiah 42:13)
  • "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. (Matthew 10:34)
God is not a mush God. Someone with a close relationship with God may experience a softer love like some Christians have given testimony to "The Ecstasies." Whatever of God's love you were taught at a Church may be mostly right. Given someone was taught "A mush God" they may have been selectively reading, and avoiding harder to deal with concepts that are also correct and true about God.

I am not here to disagree with you, only to encourage you to Christ, in a deeper and more real way.

Be most blessed in your searching after Him, Not me
 

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I am not here to disagree with you, only to encourage you to Christ, in a deeper and more real way.

Be most blessed in your searching after Him, Not me

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Remember what I think doesn’t matter, only what the Spirit of Christ is teaching you inwardly.

Be most blessed in your inward learning of Him, Not me