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You surely have a different definition of condemning and interrogation than I do. Either way my patience with you has reached its limit. So have a blessed day.

I'm sure I do - conversation = interrogation to you, support = condemnation to you, conversation by choice = rape to you...

No thanks on the blessed day from you.

Hope you have fun with your future...
 

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Interesting Quotes by Freemasons~

"The true Mason is not creed-bound. He realizes with the divine illumination of his lodge that as a Mason his religion must be universal: Christ, Buddha, or Mohammed, the name means little, for he recognizes only the light and not the bearer"(Manly Hall, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, 1976).


Many scholars call Freemasonry the "unifier" of all religions. "It is the universal, eternal, immutable religion, such as God planted it in the heart of universal humanity."(Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, 1950) "Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion." (Pike) "Masonry is all that remains to us of the first world religion" which flourished in ancient times. "It was the first unified world religion. Today we are working again towards a world universal religion" (Foster Bailey, The Spirit of Masonry, 1979).

Source: Freemasonry
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"The day has come when Fellow Craftsman must know and apply their knowledge. The lost key to their grade is the mastery of emotion, which places the energy of the universe at their disposal. Man can only expect to be entrusted with great power by proving his ability to use it constructively and selflessly. When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft.

The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare."

[Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree, K.T., The Lost Keys of Freemasonry or The Secret of Hiram Abiff , Forward by Reynold E. Blight, 33rd Degree, K.T., Illustrations by J. Augustus Knapp, 32nd Degree, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, p. 48; Emphasis Added]

"Who was Tubal Cain?" Answer: "He is the Vulcan of the pagans."

[William P. Peterson, Editor, Masonic Quiz Book: "Ask Me Brother", Chicago, Illinois, Charles T. Power Company, 1950, p. 18, 88, 131, 213; also found in John Yarker, The Arcane Schools: A Review of their Origin and Antiquity: With a General History of Freemasonry and Its Relation to the Theosophic Scientific and Philosophic Mysteries, Belfast, Ireland, William Tait, 1909, p. 30; also found in A. R. Chambers, Editor, Questions and Answers, 1972, p. 237; also found in Malcom Duncan, Duncan’s Ritual of Freemasonry, New York, David McKay Company, Inc., n.d. 3rd Edition, p. 94.]

"Vulcan was a sun deity who was associated with fire, thunderbolts and light. The festival in honor of him was called the Vulcania in which human sacrifices were offered."
[Percival George Woodcock, Short Dictionary of Mythology, New York, Philosophical Library, p. 152].

"According to Diel, he bears a family relationship to the Christian devil."
[J.E. Cirlot, translated by Jack Sage, A Dictionary of Symbols , New York, Dorset Press, 1991, p. 362].

"It is fascinating to know that he married Venus, another name for Lucifer or the devil ."
[Woodcock, op. cit., p. 150-151]

"The first HERMES was the Intelligence or Word of God. Moved with compassion for a race living without law ... God sent to man Osiris and Isis, accompanied by THOTH, the incarnation or terrestrial repetition of the first HERMES; who taught men the arts, science, and the ceremonies of religion; and then ascended to Heaven or the Moon."
[Pike, Morals and Dogma].

"... Hermes, the god of wisdom, called also Thoth, Tat, Set, and Sat-an; and that he was, furthermore, when viewed under his bad aspect, Typhon, the Egyptian Satan , who was also Set."
[Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled , Vol. I: Science]

"... Satan is not a black god, but negation of God ... this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may represent evil. It is the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force ... under the mythologic and horned form of the God Pan; thence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer ..."
[Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 102]

Source: The Worship of Lucifer, SATAN
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"... our mode of teaching the principles of our profession [Masonry] is derived from the Druids ... and our chief emblems originally came from Egypt ..."

[William Hutchinson, Mason, The Spirit of Masonry, revised by George Oliver, New York, Bell Publishing, originally published in 1775, p. 195]

"The Druids had a high veneration for the Serpent. Their great god, Hu, was typified by that reptile; and he is represented by the Bards as 'the wonderful chief Dragon, the sovereign of heaven'."
[George Oliver, Signs and Symbols, 1906]

"Masons .. admire the Druids and some of them even claim that Masonry came from Druidism. Of course, the Druids were occultic priests, practiced astrology, and offered human sacrifices."
[Dr. C. Burns, Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, p. 28]

"The Serpent is universally esteemed a legitimate symbol of Freemasonry."
[George Oliver, Signs and Symbols , New York, 1906]

"The serpent is the symbol and prototype of the Universal Savior, who redeems the worlds by giving creation the knowledge of itself and the realization of good and evil."
[Manly P. Hall, 33 Degree Mason, The Secret Teachings of All Ages , the Philosophical Research Society Press, p. lxxxviii.]

"It is the body of the Holy Spirit, the Universal Agent, the Serpent devouring its own tail."

[Morals and Dogma, teachings of the 28th Degree, Knight of the Sun, or Prince Adept]

"The serpent entwined around the egg, was a symbol common to the Indians, the Egyptians, and the Druids. It referred to the creation of the Universe."
[p. 496; teaching of the 25 Degree, Knight of the Brazen Serpent ]

Source: As It Adores And Worships The Serpent


 
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Masonry is all that remains to us of the first world religion" which flourished in ancient times. "It was the first unified world religion.
This is probably a reference to the idolatrous unified religion at the tower of Babel -- worship of the host of heaven (false gods). Perhaps the very building of that tower was the beginning of masonry, since masons would have been involved with the construction thereof.

And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. (Deut 4:19)

Satan originated all the false idolatrous religions of mankind, and occultic Freemasonry is another one of them.
 

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Many people treat Free Masonary as if it was the boogey man.
Personally, I see it as a social club that (like all groups) is what that person makes of it.

Hey, JD, why don't you read the quotes by Freemasons I posted above, and tell me what you think of Freemasonry now.
 
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Hey, JD, why don't you read the quotes by Freemasons I post above, and tell me what you think of Freemasonry now.
A disciple of Christ would do much better focusing on how can the best follow Christ rather than what they think other folks might believe.
 
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A disciple of Christ would do much better focusing on how can the best follow Christ rather than what they think other folks might believe.
I see. So, just keep people in the dark about evil. At least you can see that it ain't no "social club."

Ephesians 5:11--Don’t participate in the fruitless works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 
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Christ knows each person individually.
As his disciples, we should strive to do the same.

Yes, we should. So, since you've never asked me about myself, what would you like to know about me? :D
 
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No, Grailhunter, I know that Jesus is right--the REAL Jesus of the Bible, not the "Mormon Jesus" or the "Freemason god" or any other god. Jesus said that if we prove to be HIS disciples, then we WILL know the TRUTH, and the truth WILL make us free!

I believe that you have read His words, but you have also filled your mind with that which is false.
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There's only one Jesus, the Only Begotten Son of God.

He's not defined by what a person thinks about Him (accurately or not).
 

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This is probably a reference to the idolatrous unified religion at the tower of Babel -- worship of the host of heaven (false gods). Perhaps the very building of that tower was the beginning of masonry, since masons would have been involved with the construction thereof.

And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. (Deut 4:19)

Satan originated all the false idolatrous religions of mankind, and occultic Freemasonry is another one of them.

It might go back even further than the tower of Babel. Possibly to Cain: Genesis 4:17 "17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."

And one of Enoch's descendants is Tubal-Cain, which I've heard that name is revered within Freemasonry. And Tubal-Cain was a builder also, he was a metal-worker (like in GH's avatar picture): Genesis 4:22 "22And Zillah, she also bare Tubal–cain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubal–cain was Naamah."

If this is the case, it's interesting that this belief was carried through the flood - giving credit to where you state that satan orignated the false idolatrous religion, since satan wasn't destroyed in the flood and could perpetuate it back in some humans' beliefs.
 
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There's only one Jesus, the Only Begotten Son of God.

He's not defined by what a person thinks about Him (accurately or not).

Of course He's not defined by what anyone thinks of Him! I don't see anyone saying that here, so you're objecting to something that has not been stated or even implied. I believe this is a logical fallacy on your part.

But people can misrepresent who He is. IOW, they can get the facts wrong about Him. This is usually a defining feature of cults. They misrepresent who Jesus is.
 
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Of course He's not defined by what anyone thinks of Him! I don't see anyone saying that here, so you're objecting to something that has not been stated or even implied. I believe this is a logical fallacy on your part.

But people can misrepresent who He is. IOW, they can get the facts wrong about Him. This is usually a defining feature of cults. They misrepresent who Jesus is.
Uh, very definitely not a feature of just what a lot of us choose to label as "cults." I think that is why God allowed us to invent mirrors.
 

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Uh, very definitely not a feature of just what a lot of us choose to label as "cults." I think that is why God allowed us to invent mirrors.
I agree with you even though I wasn't saying that cults are the only ones who do this.