The Seven Spirits of God

ScottA · Oct 8, 2019

101G said:
Error, the Kingdom of God is within us now, Luke 17:20 "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:"
Luke 17:21 "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
so your assessment want fly
and as for the spirit, it returns to God who gave it, you keep harping on flesh and blood entering the Kingdom of Heaven, no, that's a dead horse .
then you said, "and the elements of this world are "destroyed with fervent heat and with fire." This is the "solid evidence" of scripture". yes, did you not read Ezekiel 37, the valley of dry bones?, now scott, what is a valley? don't use your carnal education to answer, listen, a valley is nothing but a Lake without water. do you see it now? yes, the valley when filled with fire is the LAKE of FIRE. did you get the symbolism of a fact? yes this world will be on fire, but those in Christ will be in an Ark of safety. see Scott you might want to re-read Ezekiel 37 of the valley of dry bones.

PICJAG.

You are contradicting yourself and the scriptures.

You say the kingdom of God is within you, as if to say within a flesh body; and that Christ in you will be an Ark, as if Christ had not ascended to the Father, and as if the flesh is not consumed with fire, even though you also said it would be, which is contradiction.

But He said the kingdom of God is within you, not referring to a place, but rather to the fact that God has manifest man outwardly, meaning apart from Himself, as He is not here nor there, but omnipresent.

So, the stumbling block for you remains that which is apart from God: the body of flesh. And that fire--that fire is holy fire: the Holy Spirit, which is the end of death, because it is the end of elements.

VictoryinJesus · Oct 8, 2019

101G said:
ou keep harping on flesh and blood entering the Kingdom of Heaven, no, that's a dead horse .
then you said, "and the elements of this world are "destroyed with fervent heat and with fire." This is the "solid evidence" of scripture". yes, did you not read Ezekiel 37, the valley of dry bones?, now scott, what is a valley? don't use your carnal education to answer, listen, a valley is nothing but a Lake without water. do you see it now? yes, the valley when filled with fire is the LAKE of FIRE.

could suggest “Fire” is still on topic of the seven Spirits of God. “Our God is an all-consuming Fire.” Never considered this valley other than it being the valley of the shadow of death ...the bones are dry. consider every valley will be exalted and every mountain brought low. The presence of God doing exactly what He said He would do...not by literal fire which holds no power Over every evil work...But by God’s presence. Bringing up what is low, and down what is high and lofty.

101G said:
do you see it now? yes, the valley when filled with fire is the LAKE of FIRE. did you get the symbolism of a fact? yes this world will be on fire, but those in Christ will be in an Ark of safety. see Scott you might want to re-read Ezekiel 37 of the valley of dry bones.

agree the earth will be on fire...reserved for it. Wrath against every evil work ...is this not the brightness of His coming when God destroys every evil work against Him ...yet at the same time “glorified” in those who are His and remain. It is by His presence of “Our God is an all-consuming Fire” and in “brightness” of His Pure Holy Light ...Isaiah 33:14
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Who is seen in the fire heated seven times in nebuchadnezzar’s furnace...Psalm 12:6 “The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.” the outcome being they look in and see another with them...and they with Him “walking” IN the Fire. Revelation 1:14-15
[14] His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; [15] And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Who are His feet; if not those who “rest” at His feet? Yet also...”his feet” show He has indeed walked ... “burned in a furnace” with them in “I will never leave or forsake you.” They set free(loosed in:if the Son makes you free you are free indeed) in the furnace heated seven times...yet by fire.

Standing on “The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.”

1 Corinthians 3:15-16 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. [16] Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Man on Fire · Oct 8, 2019

It is interesting that in the OP a menorah was used. That may not be wrong, but it is interesting to point out that in Talmudic Jewish Mysticism, specifically, they reference Seven Jewish Souls in stead of Seven Spirits of God. What is the difference? Is there a difference? We may need to know and understand what a soul is.

Link: "Seven Jewish Souls." Chabad.

Link: Seven Spirits of God. Got Questions.

What is a Soul?

5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.. (Deuteronomy 6:5)

He answered, "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" (Luke 10:27)

Song to Preface this: Heuy Lewis "Heart and Soul."

A few months ago I lived in walking distance from Duke University. Given someone was a Duke fan, or Duke Alumni, or had a lot of Duke Paraphernalia, they may have loved Duke University. How did they love Duke University? They loved Duke with their Soul or Identity. When Duke wins or has done well, they rejoice? They feel good? In their soul, they rejoice. That is where the soul is. Given anyone has been a sports fan at some point, and has identified as a fan of ___________ their soul rejoices when their team does well.

What is a soul? A soul is a person. In the Bible, given a King has fifty souls, he possibly has fifty servants or subjects. How do those subjects or servants identity themselves? Part of their identity may have been “A servant or subject of King Solomon” or “member of the Tribe of Judah.” They loved something with their Soul. Given someone loves or identifies with one Political Party of the other strongly in 2019, they may be loving something with their identity. Someone identifying with The Democrats, regardless of if they have believed in Jesus or not, may care more about what their friends think, and be prone to certain attitudes that lean towards ungodliness. Are their bad people on The Right? Yes. The State of Tennessee has been known to be Conservative. It is also the most politically corrupt state in the Union, and has accepted more liberal views on morality? There may have been ugly things going on behind closed doors in the State of Tennessee? What was the root of the problem? False teachers and false Prophets promoting sin and immorality, like “Sex Week” at the University of Tennessee, and societies general acceptance of it, in a “Whatever floats your boat” way.

There is a stripping process to growing in Faith. Someone growing in Faith should identify as a child of God, and work to build God’s Kingdom. Someone rejecting the world, and working to please God may end up hated. Faith is not easy.

The Soul and Identity.

The Song of Songs is in the Bible as a representation of God's Love for Israel.
In the New Testament, The Church is a Bride for Christ.
Christ is to man as a man is to woman or Christ is the head of man as man is the head of woman. (1 Corinthians 11:3)

Marriage has been an important part of The Bible and Faith and growing in understanding.

Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, (1 Peter 3:1)

Woman is meek before her husband. Man is meek before God. A woman loving her husband with her heart and soul may have taken his name. She is forging a new identity as Mrs. _____________. Someone with a Hyphenated last name is one foot in, one foot out. Who or what does she love more? Her husband or Feminism? Feminists tend towards socialism. Is a woman really married to her husband or more married to The State? Woman is meek before her husband. A man is meek before God.

101G · Oct 8, 2019

GINOLJC, to all.

ScottA said:
You are contradicting yourself and the scriptures.

You say the kingdom of God is within you, as if to say within a flesh body; and that Christ in you will be an Ark, as if Christ had not ascended to the Father, and as if the flesh is not consumed with fire, even though you also said it would be, which is contradiction.

Error, you're misunderstanding us. listen, the Holy Spirit who is Christ is in us, the "COMFORTER", supportive scripture, John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." and when he came he dwells in us. listen, John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." did you understand that scott? if not, lets get the knowledge and the understanding of it. example, the thief on the cross. Luke 23:39 "And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us." Luke 23:40 "But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?" Luke 23:41 "And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss." Luke 23:42 "And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom." Luke 23:43 "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." HOLD IT, how was the theif with our Lord Jesus in paradise? remember even Jesus didn't go to paradise that same day, because he went to hell, or where the spirits was in prison. so the question is still asking "HOW WAS THE THIEF WITH OUR LORD IN PARDISE? answer, in "THOUGHT". did one not hear what the thiif said?, "remember" me, the thief did't say carry me with you, or take me with you. see it now. he dwells within us by his Spirit. listen, "thought", an idea or opinion produced by thinking, or occurring suddenly in the mind. now, "remember", have in or be able to bring to one's mind an awareness of (someone or something that one has seen, known, or experienced in the past).

and yes he is in us. understand something, Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD." Isaiah 55:9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
nor are my thoughts are your thoughts.
see, it's no contridction, Ephesians 4:8 "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men." Ephesians 4:9 "(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?" Ephesians 4:10 "He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)" Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;"
WHAT WAS THE GIFT? the promise, bingo.
PICJAG.

bbyrd009 · Oct 8, 2019

Heart2Soul said:
What's your take on this?

nice imo

no persons in God though, i guess

ScottA · Oct 8, 2019

101G said:
GINOLJC, to all.

Error, you're misunderstanding us. listen, the Holy Spirit who is Christ is in us, the "COMFORTER", supportive scripture, John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." and when he came he dwells in us. listen, John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." did you understand that scott? if not, lets get the knowledge and the understanding of it. example, the thief on the cross. Luke 23:39 "And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us." Luke 23:40 "But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?" Luke 23:41 "And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss." Luke 23:42 "And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom." Luke 23:43 "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." HOLD IT, how was the theif with our Lord Jesus in paradise? remember even Jesus didn't go to paradise that same day, because he went to hell, or where the spirits was in prison. so the question is still asking "HOW WAS THE THIEF WITH OUR LORD IN PARDISE? answer, in "THOUGHT". did one not hear what the thiif said?, "remember" me, the thief did't say carry me with you, or take me with you. see it now. he dwells within us by his Spirit. listen, "thought", an idea or opinion produced by thinking, or occurring suddenly in the mind. now, "remember", have in or be able to bring to one's mind an awareness of (someone or something that one has seen, known, or experienced in the past).

and yes he is in us. understand something, Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD." Isaiah 55:9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
nor are my thoughts are your thoughts.
see, it's no contridction, Ephesians 4:8 "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men." Ephesians 4:9 "(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?" Ephesians 4:10 "He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)" Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;"
WHAT WAS THE GIFT? the promise, bingo.
PICJAG.

That is philosophy.

You could not explain what Jesus meant by "today" (shall you be with me in paradise) in the manner of His higher thoughts, so you have come up with a lower thought idea of how things must surely be. But that is the thinking of men. You have taken the explanation of days as literal, rather than knowing that it was just an explanation of the things of God which are always the same. There are no days with God--it always was and is "today." The three days in the tomb/hell, was never literal, but rather "yesterday, today, and forever"...not three days at all, but "always and forever." He was explaining "forever" to children...and you counted on your fingers with them and now have come up with your own doctrine.

But I was speaking to you plainly.

Like the apostles during those times, perhaps you cannot bear it even now.

Waiting on him · Oct 8, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
could suggest “Fire” is still on topic of the seven Spirits of God. “Our God is an all-consuming Fire.” Never considered this valley other than it being the valley of the shadow of death ...the bones are dry. consider every valley will be exalted and every mountain brought low. The presence of God doing exactly what He said He would do...not by literal fire which holds no power Over every evil work...But by God’s presence. Bringing up what is low, and down what is high and lofty.

agree the earth will be on fire...reserved for it. Wrath against every evil work ...is this not the brightness of His coming when God destroys every evil work against Him ...yet at the same time “glorified” in those who are His and remain. It is by His presence of “Our God is an all-consuming Fire” and in “brightness” of His Pure Holy Light ...Isaiah 33:14
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Who is seen in the fire heated seven times in nebuchadnezzar’s furnace...Psalm 12:6 “The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.” the outcome being they look in and see another with them...and they with Him “walking” IN the Fire. Revelation 1:14-15
[14] His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; [15] And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Who are His feet; if not those who “rest” at His feet? Yet also...”his feet” show He has indeed walked ... “burned in a furnace” with them in “I will never leave or forsake you.” They set free(loosed in:if the Son makes you free you are free indeed) in the furnace heated seven times...yet by fire.

Standing on “The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.”

1 Corinthians 3:15-16 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. [16] Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Jesus baptizes with fire

Waiting on him · Oct 8, 2019

Man on Fire said:
It is interesting that in the OP a menorah was used. That may not be wrong, but it is interesting to point out that in Talmudic Jewish Mysticism, specifically, they reference Seven Jewish Souls in stead of Seven Spirits of God. What is the difference? Is there a difference? We may need to know and understand what a soul is.

Link: "Seven Jewish Souls." Chabad.

Link: Seven Spirits of God. Got Questions.

What is a Soul?

Song to Preface this: Heuy Lewis "Heart and Soul."

A few months ago I lived in walking distance from Duke University. Given someone was a Duke fan, or Duke Alumni, or had a lot of Duke Paraphernalia, they may have loved Duke University. How did they love Duke University? They loved Duke with their Soul or Identity. When Duke wins or has done well, they rejoice? They feel good? In their soul, they rejoice. That is where the soul is. Given anyone has been a sports fan at some point, and has identified as a fan of ___________ their soul rejoices when their team does well.

What is a soul? A soul is a person. In the Bible, given a King has fifty souls, he possibly has fifty servants or subjects. How do those subjects or servants identity themselves? Part of their identity may have been “A servant or subject of King Solomon” or “member of the Tribe of Judah.” They loved something with their Soul. Given someone loves or identifies with one Political Party of the other strongly in 2019, they may be loving something with their identity. Someone identifying with The Democrats, regardless of if they have believed in Jesus or not, may care more about what their friends think, and be prone to certain attitudes that lean towards ungodliness. Are their bad people on The Right? Yes. The State of Tennessee has been known to be Conservative. It is also the most politically corrupt state in the Union, and has accepted more liberal views on morality? There may have been ugly things going on behind closed doors in the State of Tennessee? What was the root of the problem? False teachers and false Prophets promoting sin and immorality, like “Sex Week” at the University of Tennessee, and societies general acceptance of it, in a “Whatever floats your boat” way.

There is a stripping process to growing in Faith. Someone growing in Faith should identify as a child of God, and work to build God’s Kingdom. Someone rejecting the world, and working to please God may end up hated. Faith is not easy.

The Soul and Identity.

The Song of Songs is in the Bible as a representation of God's Love for Israel.

In the New Testament, The Church is a Bride for Christ.

Christ is to man as a man is to woman or Christ is the head of man as man is the head of woman. (1 Corinthians 11:3)

Marriage has been an important part of The Bible and Faith and growing in understanding.

Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, (1 Peter 3:1)

Woman is meek before her husband. Man is meek before God. A woman loving her husband with her heart and soul may have taken his name. She is forging a new identity as Mrs. _____________. Someone with a Hyphenated last name is one foot in, one foot out. Who or what does she love more? Her husband or Feminism? Feminists tend towards socialism. Is a woman really married to her husband or more married to The State? Woman is meek before her husband. A man is meek before God.

Jesus is meek before His bride.

VictoryinJesus · Oct 8, 2019

Waiting on him said:
Jesus baptizes with fire

yes He does.

101G · Oct 8, 2019

ScottA said:
That is philosophy.

You could not explain what Jesus meant by "today" (shall you be with me in paradise) in the manner of His higher thoughts, so you have come up with a lower thought idea of how things must surely be. But that is the thinking of men. You have taken the explanation of days as literal, rather than knowing that it was just an explanation of the things of God which are always the same. There are no days with God--it always was and is "today." The three days in the tomb/hell, was never literal, but rather "yesterday, today, and forever"...not three days at all, but "always and forever." He was explaining "forever" to children...and you counted on your fingers with them and now have come up with your own doctrine.

But I was speaking to you plainly.

Like the apostles during those times, perhaps you cannot bear it even now.

Scott, I'm really suprise at you. do you know what "today" means? then you said, "There are no days with God--it always was and is "today." YES FOR GOD, BUT NOT FOR MAN. that's why he made the sun, for "DAYS", see Genesis 1:14. that was a weak excuse. well God's day is a thousand years also. as said, "my thoughts are not your thoughts. if we go with what you say, then we can throw the whole bible away, because "today" we will ignore what "today"means, well will it be the word "therefore" tommorrow, and eventually the word or term "God" will go by the way side. this is what the devil wants.
well that want happen, for God conveyed his word to us in our way of understanding. so saying "this is philosophy", is only an excuse.
when you said, "The three days in the tomb/hell, was never literal, but rather "yesterday, today, and forever"...not three days at all, but "always and forever." now that's philosophy.
look, if you want hold that type of understanding, I leave you with Revelation 22:11
gooday.

PICJAG.

ScottA · Oct 8, 2019

101G said:
Scott, I'm really suprise at you. do you know what "today" means? then you said, "There are no days with God--it always was and is "today." YES FOR GOD, BUT NOT FOR MAN. that's why he made the sun, for "DAYS", see Genesis 1:14. that was a weak excuse. well God's day is a thousand years also. as said, "my thoughts are not your thoughts. if we go with what you say, then we can throw the whole bible away, because "today" we will ignore what "today"means, well will it be the word "therefore" tommorrow, and eventually the word or term "God" will go by the way side. this is what the devil wants.
well that want happen, for God conveyed his word to us in our way of understanding. so saying "this is philosophy", is only an excuse.
when you said, "The three days in the tomb/hell, was never literal, but rather "yesterday, today, and forever"...not three days at all, but "always and forever." now that's philosophy.
look, if you want hold that type of understanding, I leave you with Revelation 22:11
gooday.

PICJAG.

Look, I know you are offended by the idea that the world we live in is not as literal and real as it appears. But as difficult as it may be, this world is only the manifestation/creation of what is written, only the telling and revelation of what [already] was before the foundation of the world. Being last to know the truth or having a tough time relating to things on God's higher level, doesn't make it untrue. It just makes it rejected by those who don't want to hear it, and has been the cause of God's own children killing those He has sent to tell them the truth all throughout the history of the world. So...indeed, if you want to continue in that track record, it is your choice. But, no, that does not make it a good day.

So be it.

Waiting on him · Oct 8, 2019

VictoryinJesus · Oct 8, 2019

ScottA said:
There are no days with God--it always was and is "today." The three days in the tomb/hell, was never literal, but rather "yesterday, today, and forever"...not three days at all, but "always and forever."

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

?

101G · Oct 8, 2019

ScottA said:
Look, I know you are offended by the idea that the world we live in is not as literal and real as it appears. But as difficult as it may be, this world is only the manifestation/creation of what is written, only the telling and revelation of what [already] was before the foundation of the world. Being last to know the truth or having a tough time relating to things on God's higher level, doesn't make it untrue. It just makes it rejected by those who don't want to hear it, and has been the cause of God's own children killing those He has sent to tell them the truth all throughout the history of the world. So...indeed, if you want to continue in that track record, it is your choice. But, no, that does not make it a good day.

So be it.

not offended, just suprise of you and your thinking. but no problems. goodday.
PICJAG.

ScottA · Oct 8, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

?

In rightly dividing the word of truth...there are days in the world, but not with God nor the things of God...He "is the same yesterday, today, and forever."

So, the question becomes, are we interested in the history of the fallen world...or the truth according to God who can be quoted as saying "today" and also "before the foundation of the world" regarding the same event? But do not misunderstand...I am not purposing that God is a liar, no, not even. But rather that everyone (even Christ) who speaks in terms of "days" and "times", is merely speaking in the context of the world--which does not make the context of God wrong, but rather the greater truth. Such is "all truth"...which truth we can be well acquainted with if we seek it and consider it greater than the things of this world, including its times.

Jesus, then, having "one foot on the land and one on the sea" (that is, one foot in the world and one in the spirit), spoke of "three days" speaking to those who would experience them in the world...but also, speaking to one who would experience things from God's timeless side of the equation, said "today" regarding what may appear to be the same time period. But while men of this world are prone to think in terms of the world will come up with all manner of explanation of how and why and what Jesus meant, thinking it could not be any other way than their own worldly way of thinking, they error for lack of understanding, while Jesus simply spoke the truth regarding both...because, unlike other men, He knew of both.

So, men of old were also confused and offended and killed those who spoke of such things from God...and not much has changed.

VictoryinJesus · Oct 8, 2019

ScottA said:
Jesus, then, having "one foot on the land and one on the sea" (that is, one foot in the world and one in the spirit),

Thank you. Not dismissing it. Don’t know but will consider.

Isaiah 60:5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.

Revelation 21:1-4
[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. [2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. [4] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Jay Ross · Oct 8, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

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Jesus was speaking of three days of the Lord which translates to three ages. So what Christ was saying was that after the temple is destroyed because of the sins of Israel and God's removal of the ability of Israel to year offer up the yearly "Sin" offering in the sanctuary of God, that he would after the passing of three ages, rebuild the Temple of God out of the building blocks of the Saints to worship the Lord God.

The Hebrew passage Scott was quoting from is difficult to interpret/understand if we look at it in a literal sense, but it actually describes the time span from the Birth of Isaac until the time of the final Judgement, it is not an infinite time period as ScottA has suggested along with the scholars involved in the translation of our present English Texts which we rely on to form our understanding of how we should be in relationship with the Lord/Christ throughout all of time.

Verse 13:9: - Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

Shalom

Heart2Soul · Oct 8, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
nice imo
no persons in God though, i guess

Hi stranger! Nice to see you back!

Enoch111 · Oct 8, 2019

Heart2Soul said:
Hi stranger! Nice to see you back!

How do you justify welcoming back a saboteur?

Heart2Soul · Oct 8, 2019

Man on Fire said:
It is interesting that in the OP a menorah was used. That may not be wrong, but it is interesting to point out that in Talmudic Jewish Mysticism, specifically, they reference Seven Jewish Souls in stead of Seven Spirits of God. What is the difference? Is there a difference? We may need to know and understand what a soul is.

Link: "Seven Jewish Souls." Chabad.

Link: Seven Spirits of God. Got Questions.

What is a Soul?

Song to Preface this: Heuy Lewis "Heart and Soul."

A few months ago I lived in walking distance from Duke University. Given someone was a Duke fan, or Duke Alumni, or had a lot of Duke Paraphernalia, they may have loved Duke University. How did they love Duke University? They loved Duke with their Soul or Identity. When Duke wins or has done well, they rejoice? They feel good? In their soul, they rejoice. That is where the soul is. Given anyone has been a sports fan at some point, and has identified as a fan of ___________ their soul rejoices when their team does well.

What is a soul? A soul is a person. In the Bible, given a King has fifty souls, he possibly has fifty servants or subjects. How do those subjects or servants identity themselves? Part of their identity may have been “A servant or subject of King Solomon” or “member of the Tribe of Judah.” They loved something with their Soul. Given someone loves or identifies with one Political Party of the other strongly in 2019, they may be loving something with their identity. Someone identifying with The Democrats, regardless of if they have believed in Jesus or not, may care more about what their friends think, and be prone to certain attitudes that lean towards ungodliness. Are their bad people on The Right? Yes. The State of Tennessee has been known to be Conservative. It is also the most politically corrupt state in the Union, and has accepted more liberal views on morality? There may have been ugly things going on behind closed doors in the State of Tennessee? What was the root of the problem? False teachers and false Prophets promoting sin and immorality, like “Sex Week” at the University of Tennessee, and societies general acceptance of it, in a “Whatever floats your boat” way.

There is a stripping process to growing in Faith. Someone growing in Faith should identify as a child of God, and work to build God’s Kingdom. Someone rejecting the world, and working to please God may end up hated. Faith is not easy.

The Soul and Identity.

The Song of Songs is in the Bible as a representation of God's Love for Israel.

In the New Testament, The Church is a Bride for Christ.

Christ is to man as a man is to woman or Christ is the head of man as man is the head of woman. (1 Corinthians 11:3)

Marriage has been an important part of The Bible and Faith and growing in understanding.

Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, (1 Peter 3:1)

Woman is meek before her husband. Man is meek before God. A woman loving her husband with her heart and soul may have taken his name. She is forging a new identity as Mrs. _____________. Someone with a Hyphenated last name is one foot in, one foot out. Who or what does she love more? Her husband or Feminism? Feminists tend towards socialism. Is a woman really married to her husband or more married to The State? Woman is meek before her husband. A man is meek before God.

Now you said alot here....the picture of the Menorah I got off a web site....
As I stated I never noticed this before....and I had already done all the scripture cross referencing and did some research before starting this thread. I value the input of others on this forum....i may not always agree...but that's irrelevant because we are all studying together.
But this is what I love about Bible Study....I learn from scripture and from my peers.

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