Calvinism

Waiting on him said:

I’ve come to believe that accrediting something to God that doesn’t come from Him is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

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Where in the world did you hear that???

No, it is just the opposite. It is accrediting something to the devil that is actually from God that is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Read the account in Matthew 12:22-32

CharismaticLady said:

Where in the world did you hear that???

No, it is just the opposite. It is accrediting something to the devil that is actually from God that is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Read the account in Matthew 12:22-32

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Where in the world did you hear that???

Willie T said:

I'm not sure Arminius would appreciate being "teafed" ….. no matter who "encoirages" it.

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The Society of Evangelical Arminians has summarised the FACTS of Salvation: Total Depravity to provide a summary of the Arminian view of total depravity.

Waiting on him said:

Where in the world did you hear that???

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Did you read the account in Matthew? If you did you would know where. Scripture. Jesus cast out a demon, and the Pharisees claimed Jesus did that by the power of the devil, not God. Would you like to change your attitude now? BTW, Cessationists do the same thing, claiming the tongues of Pentecostals is of the devil, not God.

Enoch111 said:

No there are no such disagreements. Most (if not all) Presbyterian churches require their members to subscribe to the Westminster Confession of Faith. And the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith is hardly any different. Both these confessions tell us exactly what the Reformed teaching is on this subject.

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There are disagreements on this forum over what total depravity means.

Willie T said:

Reading what Calvin says it is, (in Institutes), is enough to make you wonder why every Calvinist hasn't already gone ahead and killed themselves.

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Total depravity means they can only do evil...."we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions".

Calvinists will argue with me that total doesn't really mean total.

CharismaticLady said:

Did you read the account in Matthew? If you did you would know where. Scripture. Jesus cast out a demon, and the Pharisees claimed Jesus did that by the power of the devil, not God. Would you like to change your attitude now? BTW, Cessationists do the same thing, claiming the tongues of Pentecostals is of the devil, not God.

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No..the rhyming noises you make are not from Satan.
The foolish noises are similar to a child learning to speak,who makes noise making believe they are speaking.
You do the same thing.

Ernest T. Bass said:

Total depravity means they can only do evil...."we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions".

Calvinists will argue with me that total doesn't really mean total.

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No need to argue. It means everyone of our facalties is affected. ..our mind,will, and emotions.

Ernest T. Bass said:

There are disagreements on this forum over what total depravity means.

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Agreed. But no disagreement among Calvinists or Reformed Christians (and that includes the Lutherans).

Here is the Reformed DISTORTION of Bible truth:

WESTMINSTER CONFESSION OF FAITH
Chapter VI
Of the Fall of Man, of Sin, and the Punishment thereof

I. Our first parents, being seduced by the subtilty and temptations of Satan, sinned, in eating the forbidden fruit. This their sin, God was pleased, according to His wise and holy counsel, to permit, having purposed to order it to His own glory. [GOD PURPOSED SIN]

II. By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion, with God, and so became dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all the parts and faculties of soul and body. [TOTAL DEPRAVITY]

III. They being the root of all mankind, the guilt of this sin was imputed; and the same death in sin, and corrupted nature, conveyed to all their posterity descending from them by ordinary generation. [ADAM'S GUILT IMPUTED TO MANKIND]

IV. From this original corruption, whereby we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions. [MANKIND ALWAYS AND CONTINUALLY EVIL]

Anthony D'Arienzo said:

No..the rhyming noises you make are not from Satan.
The foolish noises are similar to a child learning to speak,who makes noise making believe they are speaking.
You do the same thing.

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ROFL!

Willie T said:

In truth, one of the most arrogantly frightening — even "disgusting" — books you will ever read is John Calvin's Institutes of The Christian Religion. He has some good points in it, but his attitude is strikingly appalling.

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Willie, could you post a few examples of what you describe?

CharismaticLady said:

ROFL!

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I text in tongues, it is a secret c ode...satan cannot understand.
Komo mo shiki, rondo's book moka, keto

Anthony D'Arienzo said:

I text in tongues, it is a secret c ode...satan cannot understand.
Komo mo shiki, rondo's book moka, keto

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Ps. 1:1
How happy is the one who does not walk in the advice of the wicked or stand in the pathway with sinners or sit in the company of mockers!

Ernest T. Bass said:

Total depravity means they can only do evil...."we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions".

Calvinists will argue with me that total doesn't really mean total.

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What's the context of the above quote? It is speaking of mankind in relation to God, what He deems as good, and that mankind is therefore wholly inclined to evil. And mankind is. In fact man, in his flesh, cannot please God, Roman's 8:7ff.

Jesus said of man, if you, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children how much more will your heavenly Father...Matthew 7:11. Note Jesus never said they did good, or are good, but are evil, and that the gifts given are good. One must distinguish these two things.

Are/were you, outside of Christ, a pretty good being? Or is/was your nature, mind, will, emotions corrupt (which is the meaning of total in total depravity).

You've misunderstood and have taken your above quote out of context. In fact, you left off the leading words prior to the portion you quoted, they are: "From this original corruption, whereby we are utterly indisposed..." That, and there are 3 prior points in its context.

Anthony D'Arienzo said:

Willie, could you post a few examples of what you describe?

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Yes, I'd like evidence, all we have is an unsubstantiated accusation. Some are chock full of accusations with no basis.

Funny thing is many believe these accusations with absolutely zero proof. All one has to do these days is accuse and that makes it true to many unfortunately.

Biblically speaking it is false until and if ever verified.

Willie T said:

I'm not even a Calvinist and I have the Institutes on my computer. I am in the process of reading it for the third time. So, I know anyone who claims to be one has a copy at their house. (Otherwise, why would you claim to follow teachings you had never read?) All you have to do is open it up and read. (I told you where to look in Post #195)

Frankly, John Calvin reminds me of the "church" guy praying and thanking God he wasn't like that other guy over there who was such a low-life. (Luke 18:9-14)

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Again, give examples of it so we know what you mean.

CharismaticLady said:

Ps. 1:1
How happy is the one who does not walk in the advice of the wicked or stand in the pathway with sinners or sit in the company of mockers!

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yes, the blessed person in Psalm one feeds on scripture...not silly rhyming noises.