This may be tough for some to swallow, but....

tooldtocare · Oct 13, 2019

~~~~~~~~Trump’s Republican Party~~~~~~~~

Let this be a warning in spades, Trump is dragging your party through the pig farm slug pit. Please hold your nose, don’t breathe or open your eyes because you be in the disgusted land of ooze.

If you don’t save your party from this pathological

liar you will not only lose what integrity you have but every seat in Congress.

Trump is single handedly destroying the republican Party

Trump has told more lies in his first year in office than all the previous Presidents put together

T r u m p ’ s L i e s
Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies. But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office. Updated: The president is still lying, so we've added to this list, taking it through Nov. 11, and provided links to the facts in each case.

Trump Told Public Lies or Falsehoods Every Day for His First 40 Days than all previous Presidents combined
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

Trump must be removed from office before he can do more harm. Our founding fathers gave us the tools we needed and now is the time to use them.

Impeach Trump NOW!!!

Giuliano · Oct 13, 2019

brakelite said:
What I was attempting to show in the other thread was the ease by which so many people, you and Enoch included, are deceived into believing there is any real truth in the current conflicts between Israel/Iran/Iraq/Syria/Russia etc etc and that they are actually enemies. The heads of all the factions are on the same side. Their own. Nothing to do with what you see as lives are laid waste and cities and towns devastated just to feed the propaganda machine and continue the conflict. All the while so many are focused on what is taking place there, and ignoring what is taking place here, because it is here where the real action is taking place. You can safely ignore the left/democrat/communist/socialist/liberal/UN factions, as well as the right/republican/capitalist/conservative/US factions, because they are just the show-piece, the theater, the powers that be want you to focus on.
To the side however is where the real focus should be. On the one who is about to step into the breach made by decades, nay centuries of conflict. Since the beginning of last century they have turned this planet into one vast grave yard in order to make your hatred of division more intense than your suspicion of unity. When that happens, they will step in with the solution; the solution which they have been steering the world toward for hundreds of years. What is happening in Syria today is evil, because it is merely a show and its taking innocent lives again just to manipulate society into a mindset of acceptance. No-one on either side cares a damn about those fighting at the front lines, the civilians caught up in the war, the snuffing out of so many pawns in their global chess game. So long as the media focuses on how to make peace...how to appease...how to be just and fair...and not realise the whole fiasco is a sham of monumental proportions until such time when people like yourselves demand the only viable solution that they present you with. The solution engineered long before any of us were born. Just waiting for the right social climate to introduce him to the world.

You start off correctly when you say each person is on his own side. That's how things need to be understood.

Assad's father ran Syria for years and allowed religious tolerance. It's true that he was extremely violent with rebels at times; but it worked. In general, it worked because not many people wanted to risk rebellion and annihilation. His son, trained as a physician, has tried to follow the same course; but he's also faced intrusions his father didn't. I knew a guy from Syria. I haven't had communications with him lately; but he was a Christian who saw Assad as trying to keep all the factions under control, so the central government could rule. Most Christians, Jews and Muslims supported and probably still support the Assad regime.

The problem now in Syria is that the other players have their own agendas. Some side with Assad, but they also want things from him. Iran wants to be able to keep sending materials through Syria to Hezbollah in the north across the border from Israel. There is no dark conspiracy in that. The motivation is clear in that particular case. Iran and Hezbollah have formed an alliance with each other and more or less with Assad out of convenience. The other players also have their agendas, based on their interests, although some motives may be less clear.

If we want to introduce spirituality into it, we have to see how and why the Dark Side appeals to people. We could pick many organizations or imaginary organizations as villains: the UN, the Illuminati, the Vatican, Antichrist, etc. I don't see the Dark Side operating that way since the people in villainous organizations are also operating out of bad motives -- usually money or power.

Even as we speak he is slowly being revealed before a credulous populace who will welcome him with open arms and love him like their long awaited Messiah. Dare to criticise him and look out. Trump is still for me an enigma. At times he seems to be working for one side, at times, against that side. It has come to the point where I now seriously wonder of the confusion he emits on his varied stand on certain things is a deliberate ploy to create confusion. After all, I believe it is the US who will be the final mouthpiece who introduces the antichrist to the world, and is the false prophet that encourages the world to follow the AC by creating a union of church and state , an image of the first church/state union of medieval Europe, but now on a global scale. This is what I see taking place within the UN. And this is what I believe people ought to be focusing on. It is the UN, and the US, where the real action is taking place, and where end-time prophecy is being fulfilled. Not the Middle East and Israel.

Try looking at Trump as just another person who craves power. He's not that good at it since he doesn't understand the usefulness of loyalty -- or pretended loyalty. If you want to manipulate someone to get something, you need to convince him you'll deliver what you promise. Trump vacillates too much. He is too quick to stab others in the back if he thinks the alliance isn't going to give him what he wants.

What he's doing is dangerous. He is eroding American influence. American Presidents can no longer be called leaders of the free world since few people take him seriously or want to enter alliances with him except on a temporary basis. It's dangerous because that's upsetting almost every other country and how they view their alliances. Japan is a good example. If Japan can't depend on its historical alliance with the US, what should they do? South Korea and Ukraine are asking the same question. If the USA can't be depended on as a faithful ally, who should they turn to? Everything is getting shaken up. China and Russia are trying to get other countries to ally themselves with them. It's working in some cases.

Go back to the Cold War when almost everyone was aligned either with the Soviets or the Americans. It was relatively peaceful since people viewed a serious war as inviting nuclear obliteration for everyone. The Soviets could not keep up with the military build up under Reagan. They would have been beat if they kept on that track. Their Marxist vision had failed since they could not find the resources financially to match the Americans militarily.

The "world order" began to unravel when the Soviet Union changed. Basically, the Russians were betrayed. The EU began looking at countries allied with Russia as potential pickings. They could increase their power and undermine Russia by trying to get those Eastern European countries to want to be in the EU and turn their backs on the Russians. Things got agitated, and then the US stepped in offering military support to those Eastern European countries. Of course, the Russians saw that as a threat. I'd say it was a threat. If Poland was afraid Russia would invade them, why couldn't that be solved peacefully through talks?

Then China got rich -- largely because of American investment and willingness to buy Chinese goods. They took that income to build up their military. Now that they have a more powerful military, they're becoming more aggressive. That shouldn't be a mystery. The US should have been able to predict it too; but they pursued a short-sighted strategy that benefited American economic interest. Now China is building up alliances left and right. I think your model of world politics may need to include China. Perhaps it does, at that. Does it include the EU?

A study of politics also shows that sometimes when a leader or government becomes highly unpopular or when he's gotten rid of by one means or another, his replacement is worse than he was. I can predict with confidence that Trump will either resign or lose the next election. That doesn't give me much comfort. It's not that I love like Trump; but I also know who follows him may be even worse. If he becomes highly unpopular and loses the next election, we could elect someone even worse who ran opposing Trump -- and without noticing what the replacement person stands for. Zimbabwe and South Africa come to mind. I'd be the first person to agree that white supremacy in those countries was not a good thing and something needed to change. What happened was that unscrupulous governments, initially popular with the people, got in power. The results may be worse than how things were under white supremacy. What changed? White rogues got replaced by black ones. Trump's role may not be anything more than to act as a stimulus for a backlash that puts someone worse than him in power.

brakelite · Oct 13, 2019

Giuliano said:
Try looking at Trump as just another person who craves power.

Thinking back when Trump was first introduced as a potential candidate. If I remember correctly, and if I was judging the situation accurately from my antipodean perspective (relying on news and media that I have suspected for decades as being less than trustworthy) the conservative right was starting to gain in popularity and was represented most popularly in the Republican race by Cruz, Rubio, Bush, to a lesser extent Huckabee, but with one addition, Carson, who at one point seemed to be gaining much ground and was becoming a fast favourite with the Tea Party in particular, and had become a serious candidate, despite his lack of experience and public speaking skills. His innate 'good guy' status and his reputation was carrying the day, along with some of his conservative ideals. It was then that Trump became a late inclusion. Am I right? I saw this at the time as an interesting move; I thought that it may have been a tactic to stall Carson's bid because he was the only one in the whole bunch that was truly anti-globalist, and one that they feared they could not 'own'. I suspect the globalists (who would have as happily accepted Clinton as any other) feared Carson and needed to stop him dead. Introducing one of their own, a royal bloodline and cousin to Clinton, would ensure their agenda would continue unabated. Trump came to power principally on the foundation of his promise to 'give the church power'. The Christian evangelical right absolutely loved this, and was willing to overlook the foibles and character negatives, so long as they were going to have their own special agendas realised. Trump, for all his rhetoric and railing against globalist plans; despite the numerous positive declarations from the right that he is a born again Christian and God's chosen, I believe is firmly a paid up card carrying member of the deep state. His promises of cleaning out that particular swamp hasn't eventuated, and even Clinton herself and her disgusting husband are still running loose when they should have been languishing in jail months ago.

brakelite · Oct 14, 2019

Here's another voice in the wilderness...
Presidential Candidate Marianne Williamson: Enlightened Voice In The Crowd

Reggie Belafonte · Oct 14, 2019

Giuliano said:
You start off correctly when you say each person is on his own side. That's how things need to be understood.

Assad's father ran Syria for years and allowed religious tolerance. It's true that he was extremely violent with rebels at times; but it worked. In general, it worked because not many people wanted to risk rebellion and annihilation. His son, trained as a physician, has tried to follow the same course; but he's also faced intrusions his father didn't. I knew a guy from Syria. I haven't had communications with him lately; but he was a Christian who saw Assad as trying to keep all the factions under control, so the central government could rule. Most Christians, Jews and Muslims supported and probably still support the Assad regime.

The problem now in Syria is that the other players have their own agendas. Some side with Assad, but they also want things from him. Iran wants to be able to keep sending materials through Syria to Hezbollah in the north across the border from Israel. There is no dark conspiracy in that. The motivation is clear in that particular case. Iran and Hezbollah have formed an alliance with each other and more or less with Assad out of convenience. The other players also have their agendas, based on their interests, although some motives may be less clear.

If we want to introduce spirituality into it, we have to see how and why the Dark Side appeals to people. We could pick many organizations or imaginary organizations as villains: the UN, the Illuminati, the Vatican, Antichrist, etc. I don't see the Dark Side operating that way since the people in villainous organizations are also operating out of bad motives -- usually money or power.

Try looking at Trump as just another person who craves power. He's not that good at it since he doesn't understand the usefulness of loyalty -- or pretended loyalty. If you want to manipulate someone to get something, you need to convince him you'll deliver what you promise. Trump vacillates too much. He is too quick to stab others in the back if he thinks the alliance isn't going to give him what he wants.

What he's doing is dangerous. He is eroding American influence. American Presidents can no longer be called leaders of the free world since few people take him seriously or want to enter alliances with him except on a temporary basis. It's dangerous because that's upsetting almost every other country and how they view their alliances. Japan is a good example. If Japan can't depend on its historical alliance with the US, what should they do? South Korea and Ukraine are asking the same question. If the USA can't be depended on as a faithful ally, who should they turn to? Everything is getting shaken up. China and Russia are trying to get other countries to ally themselves with them. It's working in some cases.

Go back to the Cold War when almost everyone was aligned either with the Soviets or the Americans. It was relatively peaceful since people viewed a serious war as inviting nuclear obliteration for everyone. The Soviets could not keep up with the military build up under Reagan. They would have been beat if they kept on that track. Their Marxist vision had failed since they could not find the resources financially to match the Americans militarily.

The "world order" began to unravel when the Soviet Union changed. Basically, the Russians were betrayed. The EU began looking at countries allied with Russia as potential pickings. They could increase their power and undermine Russia by trying to get those Eastern European countries to want to be in the EU and turn their backs on the Russians. Things got agitated, and then the US stepped in offering military support to those Eastern European countries. Of course, the Russians saw that as a threat. I'd say it was a threat. If Poland was afraid Russia would invade them, why couldn't that be solved peacefully through talks?

Then China got rich -- largely because of American investment and willingness to buy Chinese goods. They took that income to build up their military. Now that they have a more powerful military, they're becoming more aggressive. That shouldn't be a mystery. The US should have been able to predict it too; but they pursued a short-sighted strategy that benefited American economic interest. Now China is building up alliances left and right. I think your model of world politics may need to include China. Perhaps it does, at that. Does it include the EU?

A study of politics also shows that sometimes when a leader or government becomes highly unpopular or when he's gotten rid of by one means or another, his replacement is worse than he was. I can predict with confidence that Trump will either resign or lose the next election. That doesn't give me much comfort. It's not that I love like Trump; but I also know who follows him may be even worse. If he becomes highly unpopular and loses the next election, we could elect someone even worse who ran opposing Trump -- and without noticing what the replacement person stands for. Zimbabwe and South Africa come to mind. I'd be the first person to agree that white supremacy in those countries was not a good thing and something needed to change. What happened was that unscrupulous governments, initially popular with the people, got in power. The results may be worse than how things were under white supremacy. What changed? White rogues got replaced by black ones. Trump's role may not be anything more than to act as a stimulus for a backlash that puts someone worse than him in power.

The money building up China in the years of baby bush and Obama was out of control and one has to understand Chinese people and the madness of it's leaders in how they think, the West claim to be able to control China, our leftards in Australia have been stomping about for years saying that China is not playing to it's tune but idolising it and creating a monster.

It's the same with South Africa most Australians had and still have no idea about such a Nation truly worth a cracker as they are totally oblivious to the reality's of such things, but for sure piddle on about such childish crap as they did with the not fair as to the blacks about the so called dribble that the media peddled for all it was worth 24/7 and even I knew that with the blacks in power, that it would only retard backwards with such morons in power, anyone with a brain new that with such blacks in power, that this could not advance the Nation in progress at all and their it is today a sh1t hole with backwards retards running the show, a disgrace to the world.

What happened was it was like, hey lets put retards in power of South Africa.

If the whites were never kicked out of power in South Africa, it would be leaps and bounds way better off nowadays in every way thinkable, but all the Socialist retards wanted was a racial demand that fitted into there little simplistic world that inflated there egos.
Sure the South African whites were pricks in many ways but such would of advanced much better with the right pressure applied in the correct way and not a childish pathetic struggle that was egged on by total morons who knew nothing of the situation truly, nor did they truly care back then or now truly ? as is the case with all such people who put their own egos first for a cause that they truly know bugger all truly about in reality.
One should never use such pressure on nations that you don't live in like that yourself. the proof is in the pudding it was a disaster and the media and Socialist have the blood on their hands as they destroyed South Africa turning it into such a 3rd rate backwards sh1t hole where no one is safe, blacks are not better off or safe and nothing is better and the Media and Socialist are totally responsible for it all, as all they create is a mess and what more do you expect out of fools who put Mans works above all. such has never worked ever in the history of the world as such is always a disaster.
Little small minded people who can not see the big picture, that's the socialise media and there satanic ilk.

Giuliano · Oct 14, 2019

brakelite said:
Thinking back when Trump was first introduced as a potential candidate. If I remember correctly, and if I was judging the situation accurately from my antipodean perspective (relying on news and media that I have suspected for decades as being less than trustworthy) the conservative right was starting to gain in popularity and was represented most popularly in the Republican race by Cruz, Rubio, Bush, to a lesser extent Huckabee, but with one addition, Carson, who at one point seemed to be gaining much ground and was becoming a fast favourite with the Tea Party in particular, and had become a serious candidate, despite his lack of experience and public speaking skills. His innate 'good guy' status and his reputation was carrying the day, along with some of his conservative ideals. It was then that Trump became a late inclusion. Am I right? I saw this at the time as an interesting move; I thought that it may have been a tactic to stall Carson's bid because he was the only one in the whole bunch that was truly anti-globalist, and one that they feared they could not 'own'. I suspect the globalists (who would have as happily accepted Clinton as any other) feared Carson and needed to stop him dead. Introducing one of their own, a royal bloodline and cousin to Clinton, would ensure their agenda would continue unabated. Trump came to power principally on the foundation of his promise to 'give the church power'. The Christian evangelical right absolutely loved this, and was willing to overlook the foibles and character negatives, so long as they were going to have their own special agendas realised. Trump, for all his rhetoric and railing against globalist plans; despite the numerous positive declarations from the right that he is a born again Christian and God's chosen, I believe is firmly a paid up card carrying member of the deep state. His promises of cleaning out that particular swamp hasn't eventuated, and even Clinton herself and her disgusting husband are still running loose when they should have been languishing in jail months ago.

My impression of how Trump won the primaries is that the other less extreme candidates divided the moderate voters. If some of them had dropped out sooner, maybe a more moderate Republican would have won. It certainly didn't hurt when he courted the religious right voters; and he appealed to them using fear like the fear of Muslims, for example. There had been backlash among some whites too when Obama was President. They stewed and stewed. Trump appealed to them too.

Then we need to remember how primaries are like power struggles in pack animals. You want the biggest, baddest Alpha male as the leader. Animals have physical fights; politicians use words. Trump was very good at cutting some of his competition down. Ted Cruz, an expert himself at vitriol, was completely outclassed. Trump left Cruz gasping when he tweeted the photos of their wives.

Cruz put on a "poor me" act. Playing victim isn't Alpha-male material. Angry Republicans preferred Trump to Cruz. Cruz rolled over like a dog exposing his throat to the more dominant dog after he could see he was losing. Then he became a "loyal" fan of the President, the way the losing dog does in a dog fight over leading the pack.

Trump also cleverly appealed to poor and middle-class whites. I guess they thought a rich white man from New York City understood them and cared about them and knew how to fix their problems. I think he also appealed to men who felt threatened by women gaining more influence in business and politics. He's certainly more popular with men than women.

Payback is hell. If you think Cruz forgave Trump, think again -- if the tide starts to turn, Cruz will join the pack attacking Trump. That's already started somewhat. He's not calling Trump a "pathological liar" the way he did in the primaries; but he attacked him for asking China to investigate Hunter Biden. If Trump becomes more vulnerable, Cruz will almost surely take advantage of it to get revenge. Politicians are like sharks smelling blood in water -- if someone is wounded, they want to be on the side that's winning, so they join the attack.

It's hard for me to believe how the religious leaders actually think Trump is on their side. Someone told a story about the Bush White House when some religious right minister was calling. The guy who took the call was rolling his eyes; but it was part of his job to make the religious right feel they were being catered to.

One of my favorite stories is about how Bush won Ohio. He knew it would be close and that black churches might be critical. He also knew people in black churches were very opposed to gay marriage. Karl Rove's father got sick then, and Rove went to visit his dying father in the hospital -- his father was gay, by the way. Then Rove returned to Ohio to push the anti-gay message. I don't either of them cared either way about gay marriage; it was an issue that they would have used either way if they thought it would help them win. You saw the same thing with Obama and Hillary. Both opposed gay marriage until over 50% of the people were in favor of it. Then magically both of them were also in favor.

Michele Bachmann belonged to a very anti-Catholic church when she was in Congress. It fit for her in her district. When she ran for President, she changed churches. She might need some Catholic votes, so she switched. Marco Rubio started off as a Catholic when he lived in Florida . When he moved to Nevada, his family switched churches and he became a Mormon. Then he moved back to Florida and became a Catholic again. Now he attends a variety of churches. Who knows what he is?

Giuliano · Oct 14, 2019

tooldtocare said:
~~~~~~~~Trump’s Republican Party~~~~~~~~

Let this be a warning in spades, Trump is dragging your party through the pig farm slug pit. Please hold your nose, don’t breathe or open your eyes because you be in the disgusted land of ooze.

If you don’t save your party from this pathological

liar you will not only lose what integrity you have but every seat in Congress.

Trump is single handedly destroying the republican Party

Trump has told more lies in his first year in office than all the previous Presidents put together

T r u m p ’ s L i e s
Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies. But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office. Updated: The president is still lying, so we've added to this list, taking it through Nov. 11, and provided links to the facts in each case.

Trump Told Public Lies or Falsehoods Every Day for His First 40 Days than all previous Presidents combined
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

Trump must be removed from office before he can do more harm. Our founding fathers gave us the tools we needed and now is the time to use them.

Impeach Trump NOW!!!

Let Congress do their job. Let's wait to see what they did up.

Giuliano · Oct 14, 2019

I think politicians secretly despise the religious leaders they use because they need them. The religious leaders annoy them by making demands that can cause the politicians problems with other people. Politicians don't like the idea of sharing power or having anyone else in a position of calling the shots.

Remember how the Nazis used the Catholic and Lutheran Churches in their rise to power. After they had the power, they turned on the churches. I think it's a pattern we see it in Revelation too.

Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Giuliano · Oct 14, 2019

I got a few laughs out of this.

brakelite · Oct 14, 2019

Giuliano said:
My impression of how Trump won the primaries is that the other less extreme candidates divided the moderate voters. If some of them had dropped out sooner, maybe a more moderate Republican would have won. It certainly didn't hurt when he courted the religious right voters; and he appealed to them using fear like the fear of Muslims, for example. There had been backlash among some whites too when Obama was President. They stewed and stewed. Trump appealed to them too.

Then we need to remember how primaries are like power struggles in pack animals. You want the biggest, baddest Alpha male as the leader. Animals have physical fights; politicians use words. Trump was very good at cutting some of his competition down. Ted Cruz, an expert himself at vitriol, was completely outclassed. Trump left Cruz gasping when he tweeted the photos of their wives.

Cruz put on a "poor me" act. Playing victim isn't Alpha-male material. Angry Republicans preferred Trump to Cruz. Cruz rolled over like a dog exposing his throat to the more dominant dog after he could see he was losing. Then he became a "loyal" fan of the President, the way the losing dog does in a dog fight over leading the pack.

Trump also cleverly appealed to poor and middle-class whites. I guess they thought a rich white man from New York City understood them and cared about them and knew how to fix their problems. I think he also appealed to men who felt threatened by women gaining more influence in business and politics. He's certainly more popular with men than women.

Payback is hell. If you think Cruz forgave Trump, think again -- if the tide starts to turn, Cruz will join the pack attacking Trump. That's already started somewhat. He's not calling Trump a "pathological liar" the way he did in the primaries; but he attacked him for asking China to investigate Hunter Biden. If Trump becomes more vulnerable, Cruz will almost surely take advantage of it to get revenge. Politicians are like sharks smelling blood in water -- if someone is wounded, they want to be on the side that's winning, so they join the attack.

It's hard for me to believe how the religious leaders actually think Trump is on their side. Someone told a story about the Bush White House when some religious right minister was calling. The guy who took the call was rolling his eyes; but it was part of his job to make the religious right feel they were being catered to.

One of my favorite stories is about how Bush won Ohio. He knew it would be close and that black churches might be critical. He also knew people in black churches were very opposed to gay marriage. Karl Rove's father got sick then, and Rove went to visit his dying father in the hospital -- his father was gay, by the way. Then Rove returned to Ohio to push the anti-gay message. I don't either of them cared either way about gay marriage; it was an issue that they would have used either way if they thought it would help them win. You saw the same thing with Obama and Hillary. Both opposed gay marriage until over 50% of the people were in favor of it. Then magically both of them were also in favor.

Michele Bachmann belonged to a very anti-Catholic church when she was in Congress. It fit for her in her district. When she ran for President, she changed churches. She might need some Catholic votes, so she switched. Marco Rubio started off as a Catholic when he lived in Florida . When he moved to Nevada, his family switched churches and he became a Mormon. Then he moved back to Florida and became a Catholic again. Now he attends a variety of churches. Who knows what he is?

Thanks... Yep, the only reason religious leaders trust politicians is because they have been promised something. What in the world could a religious leader want when he isn't supposed to be a part of it?

Giuliano · Oct 14, 2019

brakelite said:
Thanks... Yep, the only reason religious leaders trust politicians is because they have been promised something. What in the world could a religious leader want when he isn't supposed to be a part of it?

We see then how the description of "whore" is appropriate.

brakelite · Oct 14, 2019

Giuliano said:
We see then how the description of "whore" is appropriate.

YES! and why the church can be labelled justifiably as an adultress..

Giuliano · Oct 14, 2019

I think Trump needs mental help. He doesn't seem to be in the same world as other people.

Trump says again that Americans need ID to buy groceries. They still don't - CNNPolitics

President Donald Trump said again on Friday that Americans need identification to buy groceries, which remains not true.

"You know, if you want to go out and buy groceries, you need identification. If you want to do almost anything you need identification. The only thing you don't need identification for is to vote, the most important single thing you're doing -- to vote," Trump said at a campaign rally in Lake Charles, Louisiana.

Trump added: "You know why? Because they cheat like hell, that's why." Voter fraud is exceedingly rare, and there is no evidence of mass cheating by Democrats.

Friday wasn't the first time that Trump claimed Americans need identification for their grocery purchases. He said the same at a Florida rally in July 2018.

The day after the Florida rally, his then-press secretary, Sarah Sanders, told reporters that Trump was referring to purchases of "beer or wine." But three months after that, Trump told the conservative Daily Caller that ID is required "if you buy, you know, a box of cereal."

4Jesus · Oct 15, 2019

Giuliano said:
I think Trump needs mental help. He doesn't seem to be in the same world as other people.

Trump says again that Americans need ID to buy groceries. They still don't - CNNPolitics

President Donald Trump said again on Friday that Americans need identification to buy groceries, which remains not true.

"You know, if you want to go out and buy groceries, you need identification. If you want to do almost anything you need identification. The only thing you don't need identification for is to vote, the most important single thing you're doing -- to vote," Trump said at a campaign rally in Lake Charles, Louisiana.

Trump added: "You know why? Because they cheat like hell, that's why." Voter fraud is exceedingly rare, and there is no evidence of mass cheating by Democrats.

Friday wasn't the first time that Trump claimed Americans need identification for their grocery purchases. He said the same at a Florida rally in July 2018.

The day after the Florida rally, his then-press secretary, Sarah Sanders, told reporters that Trump was referring to purchases of "beer or wine." But three months after that, Trump told the conservative Daily Caller that ID is required "if you buy, you know, a box of cereal."

lol, he's a prophet, seeing the future of what the world wil be like with the "mark of the beast". Just joking here...

Yehren · Oct 15, 2019

How a guy who doesn't even know how to shop for groceries, convinced people that he cared about the average man, is a remarkable irony.

Giuliano · Oct 15, 2019

4Jesus said:
lol, he's a prophet, seeing the future of what the world wil be like with the "mark of the beast". Just joking here...

Here's a guy I don't think was joking. If he had his way, he would have Trump sitting unopposed and the people in Congress who dared question him would be tortured. This man is further out there than Trump. I think if Trump said he was the beast, this guy might ask if he could be the false prophet.

Yehren · Oct 15, 2019

Trump has tapped into the sewers, and they are fanatically loyal to him.

Giuliano · Oct 15, 2019

^ I guess some men think of him as the Alpha male they wish they could be.

4Jesus · Oct 16, 2019

Giuliano said:
Here's a guy I don't think was joking. If he had his way, he would have Trump sitting unopposed and the people in Congress who dared question him would be tortured. This man is further out there than Trump. I think if Trump said he was the beast, this guy might ask if he could be the false prophet.

I keep thinking to myself, and keep arguing with myself against it because I'm just so blown away that it's possible, is this part of the deceived elect in Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

4Jesus · Oct 16, 2019

More "fun":
Turkish bank linked to Giuliani client charged with fraud, money laundering in New York

U.S. attorney charges Turkish bank with sanctions violations in case Trump tried to get dropped

And they'll keep on supporting ol' Trump...

This may be tough for some to swallow, but....

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