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He was elected not selected. I am not an elite and I voted for him. He was the best of two bad options.

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How do you KNOW he was elected and not selected?

I'm not elite and I voted for him. He was the best of two bad options. But if you study the Hegelian Dialectic to learn that this game has been played before. If Trump was really legit the elite would kill him like they did JFK.

Communist leader Joseph Stalin: "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."


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We know what Beto O'Rourke is - if you search online you can find a pic of him dressed in satanic goat garb.

But do we recognize the more subtler enemies? The one such as was in the garden who subtly said "Yea hath God said..." The one who comes up beside you acting like a friend? I'm sure you've been betrayed sometime in your life - we know who our enemies are don't we? But the most dangerous are those who appear as our friend. It is they who do the most damage.

I learned this. So did David: "...mine own familiar friend has lifted up his heel against me..."

The most sinister of Satan's ploys are those who he sends out to act like our friend - an angel of light.

What is the old axiom "Know your enemy""

How many men have been led to their downfall by a beautiful woman who cleaned out his bank account? How many women have been fooled by Joe college who turned out to be a wife-beater? How many schools have been fooled by Mr. Ivy League teacher who turned out to want to be near children to abuse them?

Satan appears as an angel of light. The elite have put Trump in his position.

If nothing else then this should convince you all: We finally know what happened to JFK. He was shot by his own driver. Right after he gave the speech about secret societies. If these evil individuals can have JFK murdered do you really think they'd let Trump live?

Watch this unbelievable footage:

WARNING: I had to watch it many times before my mind was able to grasp that the driver indeed held a gun. The mind sometimes has to see something multiple times before it grasps the actuality of what happens.

I don't tend to get into these discussion because it's always about the USA falling apart ( doesn't seem to matter to some that the whole world is falling apart, that the end times predict more and more problems, that God is in control as he has allowed certain things to be unleashed to bring out in the open what has been concealed. However I find it strange that you have used The Kennedy shooting video, it doesn't matter who shot him, we all know he was silenced. So why the conspiracy theory revolving around the driver. I tend not to go on videos from the Internet as they can be manipulated and changed.
It seems that most of your posts come from the Internet, pasted and copied. Most of the posts are way too long and you very much repeat yourself on endless threads. I understand your concerns, I do not see president Trump as others do, never have, and proberbly never will ( and that doesn't make me on the opposing side ). I also believe that there is manipulation behind the scenes, proberbly noticed it more since 9/11 but we cannot changed that, it's always been that way, we just notice it more now. I am not saying we should not pray, but if God has allowed certain things to unfold, for a purpose- then when you panic and come across afraid, it makes me question who you are trusting.
Do you honestly think that the everyday person on the street can change the elite that is already established around the world. Gods judgment is showing itself, but isn't that what the last days are all about. You seem so wrapped up in what is going on in the USA, as if that's all that matters- there is a whole world out there that is broken - beyond the USA, and some of that is broken due to the actions of both the USA and UK. We reap what we sow..........
God needs to do what he needs to do .... and it is him we need to trust, not always to make is easier, but to help us go through what ever he needs to happen to bring about the final phases. People praying, people turning to God, that's never a bad thing, but if your aim is to want that to happen in order to stop ' your ' world becoming more difficult, then are you actually going against Gods will for the whole world.
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I don't tend to get into these discussion because it's always about the USA falling apart ( doesn't seem to matter to some that the whole world is falling apart, that the end times predict more and more problems, that God is in control as he has allowed certain things to be unleashed to bring out in the open what has been concealed. However I find it strange that you have used The Kennedy shooting video, it doesn't matter who shot him, we all know he was silenced. So why the conspiracy theory revolving around the driver. I tend not to go on videos from the Internet as they can be manipulated and changed.
It seems that most of your posts come from the Internet, pasted and copied. Most of the posts are way too long and you very much repeat yourself on endless threads. I understand your concerns, I do not see president Trump as others do, never have, and proberbly never will ( and that doesn't make me on the opposing side ). I also believe that there is manipulation behind the scenes, proberbly noticed it more since 9/11 but we cannot changed that, it's always been that way, we just notice it more now. I am not saying we should not pray, but if God has allowed certain things to unfold, for a purpose- then when you panic and come across afraid, it makes me question who you are trusting.
Do you honestly think that the everyday person on the street can change the elite that is already established around the world. Gods judgment is showing itself, but isn't that what the last days are all about. You seem so wrapped up in what is going on in the USA, as if that's all that matters- there is a whole world out there that is broken - beyond the USA, and some of that is broken due to the actions of both the USA and UK. We reap what we sow..........
God needs to do what he needs to do .... and it is him we need to trust, not always to make is easier, but to help us go through what ever he needs to happen to bring about the final phases. People praying, people turning to God, that's never a bad thing, but if your aim is to want that to happen in order to stop ' your ' world becoming more difficult, then are you actually going against Gods will for the whole world.
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Why the Kennedy shooting? Because everyone should know that to be a driver for the President one would have to undergo profound background checks. The fact that someone in that position was able to polish off the President is indeed frightening and shows how compromised the system is and how devious the individuals who planned it were.

The whole world is falling apart - but if you really search for the roots of it the answers will begin to come clear.

Yes we're told that the world is to wax worse, but we're NOT called to be dumb - we're FOREWARNED in many Scriptures "Be sober, be vigilant..." "Wide is the way that leads to destruction..."

Yes we're told to trust but but I think there are times when God moves us to share something that we've learned or read. Saints that are unaware are fooled and I see too many fawning pastors around Trump misleading the flock. I was badly fooled by another Christian one time and I found out later that other believers knew about this person - yet no one felt it necessary to warn others. What kind of conscience do those people truly have? God didn't automatically make things right and those who believe that God is going to do it all I believe are sadly deluded. Scripture says we're co-laborers with God. I believe an enlightened body is a healthier body. It's when a lot of the body is in the dark when Satan can work his most heinous wiles.

This is not for the stiff-necked who will go on blithely thinking God is going to take care of them and that they don't have to be a soldier. It's for those who want to really look into whether we're being told the truth or not and make informed decisions about what choices to make.

We're told that faith without WORKS is dead. Go tell your brother "be fed, be warmed..." I've tried to get friends to just email local legislators and they won't - they think God will work it all out. They refuse to speak up - and silence is interpreted as assent. I asked the pastor of our bible study about it and he said it's a copout. He's very practical and I respect that. Too many Christians are sitting back waiting for God to do it all when they could do something - if just emailing local legislators. Yet some won't even do that. And that's sad because they're forcing the Christians who do act to work harder.

Where would people have been without Paul Revere?
 
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America's Surveillance State is a documentary series from PressTV. The film talks about the mass surveillance condition. United states of America has become the United states of surveillance!
I hope you know that Press TV is a propaganda media company run by Iran. Some stuff may be true but slanted to scare people.

Press TV - Wikipedia
 

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Do you want the government to enforce all your religious ideas? What denomination would get to decide what the government should do? Catholics? Episcopalians? Baptists? Who?

There could be less of it if they were in adult relationships with other men.

Say you had a son of about 14 or 15. Would you rather live next door to a happily married gay couple -- or a single gay man pretending to be straight who might have an eye for your son?

Homosexuals aren't predators. and a gay couple can live together and not be married.
 
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We know what Beto O'Rourke is - if you search online you can find a pic of him dressed in satanic goat garb.

But do we recognize the more subtler enemies? The one such as was in the garden who subtly said "Yea hath God said..." The one who comes up beside you acting like a friend? I'm sure you've been betrayed sometime in your life - we know who our enemies are don't we? But the most dangerous are those who appear as our friend. It is they who do the most damage.

I learned this. So did David: "...mine own familiar friend has lifted up his heel against me..."

The most sinister of Satan's ploys are those who he sends out to act like our friend - an angel of light.

What is the old axiom "Know your enemy""

How many men have been led to their downfall by a beautiful woman who cleaned out his bank account? How many women have been fooled by Joe college who turned out to be a wife-beater? How many schools have been fooled by Mr. Ivy League teacher who turned out to want to be near children to abuse them?

Satan appears as an angel of light. The elite have put Trump in his position.

If nothing else then this should convince you all: We finally know what happened to JFK. He was shot by his own driver. Right after he gave the speech about secret societies. If these evil individuals can have JFK murdered do you really think they'd let Trump live?

Watch this unbelievable footage:

WARNING: I had to watch it many times before my mind was able to grasp that the driver indeed held a gun. The mind sometimes has to see something multiple times before it grasps the actuality of what happens.


How could nobody have seen that?? :confused: I myself have watched that footage many times and noticed nothing. The video is not great but, I can't believe what I just saw. It was obvious that he was hit from more than one direction and, that second shot definitely came from in front of him. :(
 

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I knew a young kid who pretended to be straight when sober. His mother was a religious fanatic. He'd get drunk and then go to bed with men. He got AIDS. I think it was partly her fault.

It is nuts, isn't it?

I think hetero sex that is all lust and no love is as bad as gay sex. I had a friend who got terribly abused by men who used her. I tried to talk to her to get her to stop trying to find "love" in bars. She was sweet, but she was insecure and had the drinking problem. Anyone could get her in bed. When I talked to her, I wasn't condemning. I tried to show her how she was hurting herself. That's what got to me. I haven't seen her in years; but when I asked her brother a few months ago, he said she'd settled down.

One of my many nieces, whom I am close to wears her sweet sensitive heart on her sleeve. Always being used by these awful guys...ones who have piercings, tattoos and wear all black! They do not treat her well and when they drop her, her heart is shattered. My prayers for her every day are that she would have such a heart for God and her hunger and thirst to know Him will deepen each day. I also pray that she will find a strong man of God to love her as Christ loves the Church. She is a beautiful girl, just turned 22 and she is sweet as the day is long. They prey on her weaknesses and general trust. This is such an ugly world. God's patience knows no bounds..
 

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Such rampant imaginings. Of course the driver would have had a pistol. Do you think he was just an ordinary driver? Every one of those people around him were armed... they were all Secret Service.
 

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I like Trump.

I hear Trump saying things, NOT any different then what the general population says in their own "private" discussions, in their homes; in discussions, on media forums. A persons LIKES and DISLIKES and OPINIONS.

And on the other hand, the Difference between the general population and Trump IS;
Trump is BOUND to particular LAWS, which the general public IS NOT.

Trump is NOT a LAW maker, or a DICTATOR with imperial Authority.

Personally, I am of the SAME opinionated mindset as Trump reveals is his own opinionated mindset. In other words, Many things Trump speaks of he is FOR and AGAINST, parallel my own opinions and ideals of being FOR and AGAINST.

YET...I am fully aware of Trump's LIMITATIONS as President, as I am aware of my own LIMITATIONS as an individual.

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One of my many nieces, whom I am close to wears her sweet sensitive heart on her sleeve. Always being used by these awful guys...ones who have piercings, tattoos and wear all black! They do not treat her well and when they drop her, her heart is shattered. My prayers for her every day are that she would have such a heart for God and her hunger and thirst to know Him will deepen each day. I also pray that she will find a strong man of God to love her as Christ loves the Church. She is a beautiful girl, just turned 22 and she is sweet as the day is long. They prey on her weaknesses and general trust. This is such an ugly world. God's patience knows no bounds..
It's heart-breaking to watch, and you're powerless. All you can do is talk to her gently; and someday when she's had enough of it, she may remember what you said and think, "I wonder if she was right?" It's surprising to me how some of the words my Mother said to me when I was young came back to me later and helped me.
 

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I'll go with this, rather than what someone like Willie thinks is a "great leader": Revelation 19: 11 "11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war."

Doesn't sound willing to work with others of different mindsets, does He?
One of the dumbest things I keep hearing repeated by the Left is that Trump should badmouth and denounce other leaders. How unthinking! Do you have any desire to try to get along with the forum members here who have consistently called you names and maybe speak of how you are a child of Satan? Of course you don't. You don't even try to puzzle out what they mean in one of their posts.
You usually put them on IGNORE...…… but some of these weird leaders just might push the Nuclear Button instead. The quote about keeping your friends close, but you enemies even closer, is correct.
 
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I'll go with this, rather than what someone like Willie thinks is a "great leader": Revelation 19: 11 "11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war."

Doesn't sound willing to work with others of different mindsets, does He?
Try not to be a One-Verse-Christian. But, if you must, try this one: Romans 12:18 .

Romans 12:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
 

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One of the dumbest things I keep hearing repeated by the Left is that Trump should badmouth and denounce other leaders. How unthinking! Do you have any desire to try to get along with the forum members here who have consistently called you names and maybe speak of how you are a child of Satan? Of course you don't. You don't even try to puzzle out what they mean in one of their posts.
You usually put them on IGNORE...…… but some of these weird leaders just might push the Nuclear Button instead. The quote about keeping your friends close, but you enemies even closer, is correct.

How can you tell me what I do or don't do, without even knowing? How do you know "of course you don't", you have no idea nor the information to make that conclusion. Provide proof, then we'll talk.

"You don't even try to puzzle out what they mean in one of their posts"? Again, how can you determine that with the information you don't have or know of? Please provide proof, then we'll talk.

"You usually put them on IGNORE" - Yet again! How do you know who I ignore, or put on ignore? You don't have that information to make that conclusion. Please provide proof that I have, then we'll talk.

Provide proof Willie, of what you said I do and don't do. Until then, you're making things up in your head and putting that onto me - projection yet again from you.
 
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Try not to be a One-Verse-Christian. But, if you must, try this one: Romans 12:18 .

Try not telling people what to do. I know you can't, you're too into yourself and how high you place yourself for your perceived intelligence, your worldly intelligence that is...

As for Romans 12:18 "18If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."

Did Paul live peaceably with all men? Does Jesus live peaceably will all men in the battle of Armageddon?
 
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What's with the Catholic Church making gays feel so guilty. Young gays probably think they don't want to marry women, so why not become priests? Later they find out they can't resist temptation. That whole setup reeks to me since they forbid marriage. It's as if there is a "Gay Mafia" running things and they want as many gay priests as they can get -- so the straight guys should stay out. Oh yes, that's a good plan to put a bunch of gay guys together in seminary and tell them to be chaste. It's crazy if you ask me.
Hi Giuliano,

I am always interested in an outsiders point of view. I am curious; In your opinion how has "the CC made gays feel so guilty"?

Did you know that one volunteers to become a priest which means they have chosen not to marry and taken a VOW to be celibate?

Did you know that the unmarried man is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to please the Lord; but the married man is anxious about the affairs of the world, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided?

Did you know that there are married priests? Did you know that men who CHOOSE to become celibate priest are striving to be more like Jesus? Isn't that a good thing?

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There could be less of it if they were in adult relationships with other men.

Say you had a son of about 14 or 15. Would you rather live next door to a happily married gay couple -- or a single gay man pretending to be straight who might have an eye for your son?
Hmmmmm...... Would you rather live next door to a married straight couple or a single straight woman who might have an eye out for your husband?

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I have to make this quick:

Why the Kennedy shooting? Because everyone should know that to be a driver for the President one would have to undergo profound background checks. The fact that someone in that position was able to polish off the President is indeed frightening and shows how compromised the system is and how devious the individuals who planned it were.

The whole world is falling apart - but if you really search for the roots of it the answers will begin to come clear.

Yes we're told that the world is to wax worse, but we're NOT called to be dumb - we're FOREWARNED in many Scriptures "Be sober, be vigilant..." "Wide is the way that leads to destruction..."

Yes we're told to trust but but I think there are times when God moves us to share something that we've learned or read. Saints that are unaware are fooled and I see too many fawning pastors around Trump misleading the flock. I was badly fooled by another Christian one time and I found out later that other believers knew about this person - yet no one felt it necessary to warn others. What kind of conscience do those people truly have? God didn't automatically make things right and those who believe that God is going to do it all I believe are sadly deluded. Scripture says we're co-laborers with God. I believe an enlightened body is a healthier body. It's when a lot of the body is in the dark when Satan can work his most heinous wiles.

This is not for the stiff-necked who will go on blithely thinking God is going to take care of them and that they don't have to be a soldier. It's for those who want to really look into whether we're being told the truth or not and make informed decisions about what choices to make.

We're told that faith without WORKS is dead. Go tell your brother "be fed, be warmed..." I've tried to get friends to just email local legislators and they won't - they think God will work it all out. They refuse to speak up - and silence is interpreted as assent. I asked the pastor of our bible study about it and he said it's a copout. He's very practical and I respect that. Too many Christians are sitting back waiting for God to do it all when they could do something - if just emailing local legislators. Yet some won't even do that. And that's sad because they're forcing the Christians who do act to work harder.

Where would people have been without Paul Revere?
Who said anything about being dumb, or inactive, I never- I merely asked where your faith was within the equation because your posts come across as ' panic '.
I don't doubt that the shooting was an inside job, it's always been suspected of being so- so that's not exactly new. I have no idea if the drive shot him, but that would raise more questions because that would have been witnessed by those close by.
I talk to others about what is going on, and I am often disbelieved- but I don't ram in down people's throats all the time , that is likely to be a turn off. It's learning to be discerning and knowing when to say something. I am glad that I don't have to decide who to vote for in the US, it's bad enough trying to work out who to vote for here !!
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