This may be tough for some to swallow, but....

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I keep thinking to myself, and keep arguing with myself against it because I'm just so blown away that it's possible, is this part of the deceived elect in Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
I've thought of that too. While I wouldn't say Trump is a false Christ, it does show how easily influenced some Christians can be chasing after someone with power.

I'm waiting for Turkey to "confiscate" Trump Towers in Istanbul. That's awkward, isn't it? It also poses a conflict of interest.

Then there was this:

An awkward photo of Trump from 2014 just surfaced connecting him with one of the Ukrainians just arrested.

2014 photograph shows earlier ties between Trump and indicted Giuliani associate

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So if a person has a picture taken with Trump, that means they have "ties." OK.
 

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I've thought of that too. While I wouldn't say Trump is a false Christ, it does show how easily influenced some Christians can be chasing after someone with power.

lol, according to some who like Trump, perhaps he is though: "the Jewish people in Israel love him like he's the King of Israel", "They love him like He is the second coming of god".

Perhaps God saw the future with this, and thought, yeah, this counts, I'll write it in , lol

I'm waiting for Turkey to "confiscate" Trump Towers in Istanbul. That's awkward, isn't it? It also poses a conflict of interest.

That was only if Trump didn't get out of the way of Turkey's attack on the Kurds, or if Trump didn't try to get at least one case dropped against a Turkey affiliated company. ;)

Then there was this:

An awkward photo of Trump from 2014 just surfaced connecting him with one of the Ukrainians just arrested.

2014 photograph shows earlier ties between Trump and indicted Giuliani associate

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I'm surprised Rudy G. isn't photobombing in the back, just to top the whole thing off lol.
 
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So if a person has a picture taken with Trump, that means they have "ties." OK.
Did you read the article? This was the part I found most interesting:

Jaros did not immediately respond to requests for comment made over social media. A lawyer for Parnas, John Dowd, said he did not know anything about the photographed interaction and declined to answer further questions.

Following the unsealing of Parnas’s indictment last week for campaign finance violations over alleged schemes to buy political influence on behalf of foreigners, Trump said he did not know Parnas or his business partner and co-defendant, Igor Fruman. “I don’t know those gentleman,” he told reporters before boarding Marine One en route to a campaign rally in Minneapolis. “Maybe they were clients of Rudy. You’d have to ask Rudy.”

On Thursday, the Wall Street Journal described Parnas’s attendance at a Trump campaign fundraiser attended by the candidate and Giuliani in October 2016 as “his first known appearance in Mr. Trump’s circle.” Parnas, 47, told the Washington Post that he sold Trump Organization condos while Trump’s father, Fred, was still running the business.

POLITICO reported on Friday that the French newspaper Le Monde interviewed Parnas at the Trump campaign’s invite-only election night party in 2016, and that Parnas described himself to the paper as a friend of Trump’s.
 
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lol, according to some who like Trump, perhaps he is though: "the Jewish people in Israel love him like he's the King of Israel", "They love him like He is the second coming of god".
I'm still waiting for Israel to put up a big gold statue of him for people to bow down to -- at least as big as the one Nebuchadnezzar made.
 
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Did you read the article? This was the part I found most interesting:

Jaros did not immediately respond to requests for comment made over social media. A lawyer for Parnas, John Dowd, said he did not know anything about the photographed interaction and declined to answer further questions.

Following the unsealing of Parnas’s indictment last week for campaign finance violations over alleged schemes to buy political influence on behalf of foreigners, Trump said he did not know Parnas or his business partner and co-defendant, Igor Fruman. “I don’t know those gentleman,” he told reporters before boarding Marine One en route to a campaign rally in Minneapolis. “Maybe they were clients of Rudy. You’d have to ask Rudy.”

On Thursday, the Wall Street Journal described Parnas’s attendance at a Trump campaign fundraiser attended by the candidate and Giuliani in October 2016 as “his first known appearance in Mr. Trump’s circle.” Parnas, 47, told the Washington Post that he sold Trump Organization condos while Trump’s father, Fred, was still running the business.

POLITICO reported on Friday that the French newspaper Le Monde interviewed Parnas at the Trump campaign’s invite-only election night party in 2016, and that Parnas described himself to the paper as a friend of Trump’s.

I don't believe the #fakenews media.
 

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I don't believe the #fakenews media.
In other words, anything anyone says bad about Trump can't be true because Trump is God's anointed one? I can't believe how "perfect" some people want to think Trump is. He can do no wrong! I suppose that photo was fake too?

Trump says "fake media" and you say, "Must be." You believe whatever he says.

News organizations are businesses. If they report too many false stories without apologizing when they get things wrong, they'd go broke.
 
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"Everything bad about me is not true. Fakenews! I do nothing bad. My people think of me like I'm the second coming of god" - Trump according to this supporters...
Ha, we posted almost the same thing at the same time.

I can't believe how some people think. Trump says one thing one day and contradicts the next; and his followers nod their heads approvingly as if he could be telling the truth both times.
 
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I'm still waiting for Israel to put up a big gold statue of him for people to bow down to -- at least as big as the one Nebuchadnezzar made.

lol, it would be hilarious and heartbreaking at the same time. Like that comedy/tragedy mask/Greek theater mask...
 
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Ha, we posted almost the same thing at the same time.

I can't believe how some people think. Trump says one thing one day and contradicts the next; and his followers nod their heads approvingly as if he could be telling the truth both times.

Hehehe, nice going, if I may say so myself :D

Yeah I don't get it, and I'm really trying to understand. They're intelligent people, a little more or less than most others, but still smart enough to comprehend, yet, there's something else there holding it back - my only thinking on it is that it's something deliberate from the dark side to cloud their reasoning.

And it's not just once or twice, but years of this, and they just set their heels in their position even more.
 
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lol, he's a prophet, seeing the future of what the world wil be like with the "mark of the beast". Just joking here...

Real I.D. compliant driver's license, permit or identification. Needed to fly (U.S.), board buses, travel by train or enter federal facilities.

In Indiana we have to have it by Oct. 1, 2020. This is very scarey to me. I've told my husband I won't be driving after that date. Seems it will be needed for banking info also. Maybe check into a credit union.

A present from George W. after 9-11
 
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Real I.D. compliant driver's license, permit or identification. Needed to fly (U.S.), board buses, travel by train or enter federal facilities.

In Indiana we have to have it by Oct. 1, 2020. This is very scarey to me. I've told my husband I won't be driving after that date. Seems it will be needed for banking info also. Maybe check into a credit union.

A present fron George W. after 9-11

Hi Acolyte, I was only joking about Trump being a prophet though.

But now that you bring it up, while I don't think the Real I.D. is the "mark of the beast", it is at least, to me, a stepping stone to "soften" up the masses to the benefits of technology and identification of oneself (while eroding rights), which I think, is one of multiple purposes of the "mark of the beast".
 
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Hehehe, nice going, if I may say so myself :D

Yeah I don't get it, and I'm really trying to understand. They're intelligent people, a little more or less than most others, but still smart enough to comprehend, yet, there's something else there holding it back - my only thinking on it is that it's something deliberate from the dark side to cloud their reasoning.

And it's not just once or twice, but years of this, and they just set their heels in their position even more.
Some people don't want to admit they made a mistake trusting someone. Sometimes even when betrayed, they don't want to admit it. Farmers are hurting now as a result of the trade situation with China; but I read where many of the farmers who voted for Trump are still hanging in there even though he made things worse for them, not better. It reminds me of Pharaoh's army following him into the sea.

U.S. farmers may be angry, but their support for Trump is gr...
 
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Hi Acolyte, I was only joking about Trump being a prophet though.

But now that you bring it up, while I don't think the Real I.D. is the "mark of the beast", it is at least, to me, a stepping stone to "soften" up the masses to the benefits of technology and identification of oneself (while eroding rights), which I think, is one of multiple purposes of the "mark of the beast".

The mark is in your mind, the mark of the beast or the seal of our Father. IMO
Blessings

P.S. sorry didn't realize this was debate forum, don't comment here... :oops:
 
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Some people don't want to admit they made a mistake trusting someone. Sometimes even when betrayed, they don't want to admit it. Farmers are hurting now as a result of the trade situation with China; but I read where many of the farmers who voted for Trump are still hanging in there even though he made things worse for them, not better. It reminds me of Pharaoh's army following him into the sea.

U.S. farmers may be angry, but their support for Trump is gr...

I think for at least some of them though, it is deeper than that. I'm not saying you're wrong, I think that's part of it. I just think there's an undercurrent of arrogance and pride in there too, mixed in together, which, the result of leads to being deceived. It's certainly not because of lack of information, so it's gotta be something else.

And if they're wrong, then their egos will be in question, and then they question themselves and figure out what else are they wrong about, then the world collapses on them, and that just can't be, so it goes back to strengthening what was already believed and their current position. That or dark side workings lol, maybe both lol.

You're right about Pharaoh's army though. Somehow, the Republican party is the Pharaoh now, and it's Republican first, Christian second - if you are not an agreeing Republican, you are not a Christian.
 
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I keep thinking to myself, and keep arguing with myself against it because I'm just so blown away that it's possible, is this part of the deceived elect in Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

iu

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They're way ahead of you.
 
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@Yehren, I'm getting too many ideas from those pics, lol. Gonna have to work on my GIMP skills soon.

-Trump Towers Istanbul - caption, with Trump in front in a robe, saying "And I will raise it up in three days"
-Last Supper painting - they all have MAGA hats on
-Star of David on the Israeli flag - Trump's face in the center of the star.

Too many others; gotta get working on this ;)
 
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:D

BTW, these aren't mine. They were actually done by Trump supporters. Poe's Law strikes in reverse, again.
 
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