Are the sheep and the goats being separated on earth right now?

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Hello

The three Matthew_25 parables covers the period of the Millennium Age. The parable of the Bridegroom/Ten virgins is about the Wedding Banquette at or very near to the start of the last Age, i.e. the Millennium Age. The Parable of the Talents is about Satan's good and faithful servants using money to oppress the people of the earth such that they have no time to consider the thinks of the Kingdom of God established at the beginning of the Millennium Age. The Parable of the Separation of the Sheep and the Goats is a description of the final judgement of those who call God/Jesus Lord, Lord.

In Ezekiel_34:17: - "'And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I shall judge between sheep, i.e. the flock that calls me Lord, and sheep, i.e. the flock that does not call me Lord, and then, between rams, i.e. the flock of sheep who have a heart after God's heart, and goats, i.e. the flock of goats who have a Hellenistic Heart which is not after God's heart."

The parable of the separation of the sheep from the goats is an explanation of how the sheep will be separated from the Goats which is based on the respective flocks activities is showing their heart's desires to bless those around them. Because they had the fruit of the spirit, the fruit, i.e. their good works, that showed God's heart to the people around them, the rams and the Goats could be separated within that flock of those who called God/Jesus Lord, in the initial separation of the one flock from the other.

Those that are found to have been renewed such that they had a refurbished heart after the heart of the Father entered in to receive their inheritance of the whole earth. The Rams were dispatched into the Lake of Fire because they were not recorded in the Book of Life.

Now your question of, "Are the sheep and the goats being separated on the earth right now?" has two answers with respect to the time frames in which they occur.

Ephesians _4:22-24: - 22 Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, 24 and put on the refurbished nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.​

The above verses explains how the separation is occurring at this present time where the people who have repented of their sins and are prepared to renew their minds and put on the refurbished nature of God to live their lives with God are being transformed into the sheep of God's fold.

Whereas, the people who belong to the flock of Goats have said that they repent of their sins, but they do not renew their minds nor do they put on the refurbished nature created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.

Then at the time of judgement before the judgement seat of God the comingled flocks will be finally separated into their respective heart natures based on their righteousness and holiness. As said above, this will occur at the very end of the Millennium Age when Christ comes in all of His Glory.

Shalom
First, from which Bible version are you quoting from?
Second, according to you, when does the 1000 years begin, IOWs what heralds it, for us to know that it has begun?
 

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First, from which Bible version are you quoting from?
Second, according to you, when does the 1000 years begin, IOWs what heralds it, for us to know that it has begun?

First question: - I quoted a corrected paraphrase of the text. Most scholarly translations use the "neo" new in the place where the "kainos" refurbished like new is found. Its like saying that I have brought a "new" car when in fact I have obtained a refurbished, fixed up car which is like new again after the car has been brought back up to scratch by the dealer. In other words "kainos" has the meaning of being refreshed like new, whereas "neo" has the meaning with respect to age. Yes Jesus spoke of being "born" again, but in the sense of being rebirthed again like a second hand car that is brought back to the original spec. I believe that this is what you are objecting too. Sadly many people like the idea that God will make them like new again without any "work" on their part, but the reality is that we have to renew our minds as we begin to put on the "refurbished self that God intends us to be.

Second question: -
When Satan and his wicked fallen heavenly hosts, i.e. angels, are kicked out of heaven, after being judged (Isaiah 24:21-22) down to the earth to be immediately locked up in the bottomless pit and the Kings of the earth and their armies are judged on the earth in the valley of decision, i.e. also called Armageddon, for their trampling of the sanctuary of God for 2,300 years, and they too will be locked up in the bottomless pit at the same time as the heavenly hosts who have been judged in heaven.

In other words, Paul provides the best picture of when the parables of Matthew_25 begin to unfold when he wrote in Romans_11:25-26 using a better contextual understanding of the verses: - "that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness, with respect to time of the Heathen Gentiles trampling the sanctuary of God for 2,300 years, has been completed, after which all Israel will be saved." After Israel is saved, God then renews again the covenant of a Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the Nations Covenant which God had made with His Bride at Mt Sinai which is the reason for the Wedding Banquet as told in the parable of the Ten Virgins.

Jesus is seen fleetingly at this time, but His second advent is not until the end of the Millennium age when He comes in all of His Glory to Judge the Nations.

We have already seen the three signs of wonders worked by the three flying evil frog like spirits to begin the drawing of the kings of the earth to Armageddon to be judged.

Shalom
 

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I keep reading about the unhinged left and it seemed to me that the sheep and the goats are being separated early. Has anyone else thought this?

Separated? No.
Divided? Yes.

Glory to God,
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If God's "seal" is not the Gift of the Person of His Holy Spirit, "another Comforter", then what else would you imagine, or be told that it is?
Let me ask you this;.....the seals of monarchs of the earth consist of what? What is it that identifies them as seals?
 

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I keep reading about the unhinged left and it seemed to me that the sheep and the goats are being separated early. Has anyone else thought this?


Matthew 25:33

“And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.”
I haven't, simply because Jesus said that this would be when He returns, and sits on His throne, which isn't yet.

Much love!
 

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I haven't, simply because Jesus said that this would be when He returns, and sits on His throne, which isn't yet.

Much love!
Yes, marks is right here. Jesus said he would seperate the sheep from the goats when he returns in his glory. Till then, as with the wheat and the tares, they will mingle and grow together.
If the scriptures were read with a prayerful attitude this question would not even occur.
 

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I haven't, simply because Jesus said that this would be when He returns, and sits on His throne, which isn't yet.

Much love!

Something is going on - I have never heard of such insane things happening as now - and a lot is being done by those in high positions of power, which make it more frightening.

I just read that another cop raped a 5 year old and didn't get any jail time. It's an epidemic I read. Look at legislators - especially the left - they're out of their minds in the things they're saying. It just seems that who belongs to God and who doesn't are being shown early - although there are those who can fool others - but for the most part it seems Satan's people are being made known.
 

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Yes, marks is right here. Jesus said he would seperate the sheep from the goats when he returns in his glory. Till then, as with the wheat and the tares, they will mingle and grow together.
If the scriptures were read with a prayerful attitude this question would not even occur.

Haven't you noticed though that you can more clearly tell who the tares and who the wheat is? The tares are losing their minds.
 

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Haven't you noticed though that you can more clearly tell who the tares and who the wheat is? The tares are losing their minds.
lol....yes, some are so obvious I'm surprised they get away with their shenanigans while others are as smooth as oil and hide in the sheaf undetected.
 

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I keep reading about the unhinged left and it seemed to me that the sheep and the goats are being separated early. Has anyone else thought this?


Matthew 25:33

“And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.”

"Division" Among the people? Yes. Current

"Separation" Of the people? Not Yet. Future.

Glory to God,
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