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There IS a difference between Spiritual and physical.
Revelation 19:11 plainly states Jesus will Return and reign as King of the world, physically and every eye will see Him.
Are you ready for the testing times ahead? 1 Peter 4:12
My question would be have you received your king?
 

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But Jesus said: Keep busy in proclaiming the Gospel, until I Return. Matthew 28:19-20

Obviously people here are not interested in being prepared for all that the prophets tell us will happen before Jesus Returns.
Which could be at the very door......
Open the door.
 

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Indeed there is a difference between spiritual and physical when it comes to Jesus.

But the witness of all scripture tells us that He has already come physically, and "It is finished"; and neither of those scriptures you posted, nor any others actually indicate a repeat of what He has already done, but rather that He comes in the glory of the Father...whom is spirit, not physical flesh.
This took place in acts chapter two
 
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What about Acts 1:11?
Denial of a literal, physical Return of Jesus to reign over the world for a thousand years, means that you either;
1/ haven't actually read the relevant prophesies.
2/ You reject and ignore those prophesies.
3/ You have your own agenda for what you want to happen.
4/ You are terrified of the idea that you might have to prove your faith.
Acts 1:11
"who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

If Jesus has ascended, He has ascended in spirit, for "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God." Thus, "like manner" in Acts 1:11 refers to Him returning in spirit--that is the like manner, just as it says. Therefore, to say that He returns physically in the flesh, is to deny His ascension and inheritance of the kingdom of God.

1/ You have a lot to say that is completely false and against the scriptures.
2/ You are without understanding.
3/ I am not terrified, for "He that is in me, is greater than He that is in the world."
 
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As far as Isaac Newton’s 2060AD quote he said....

““It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." –- Isaac Newton

Hi Rocky.

I remember you always post this Isaac Newton quote. I remember the picture you posted of your new cat. I can't believe i remember that. I have a cat too.

But this "2060" quote, i think, was Isaac's attempt to quiet the group of fanciful men who were frequently predicting the time of the end during the time of Newton's life. Newton knew that it wasn't happening then, so he picked a time far out into the distant future in order to quiet them down.

Newton knew about the 1535 decree to restore Jerusalem. So he would have been looking for the other decree to be issued in 1969, 434 years latter. And that the "compass of a Jubilee" would then have pointed to 2019, the 50th year after the seven sevens.

I'm talking to a really nice guy who has a Kindle book out that also has worked on the 6000 years. He makes a good case for it being 6000 years of fallen man, not the creation of the Earth. And he shows some good evidence for Adam to have been 40 when he married Eve. The Bible only mentions the ages that three other men were when they were married, and that seemed to be at 40.

The book guy is also heavily into the signs in the heavens. He is showing the two solar eclipses that make the X marks the spot over America. But also how two more solar eclipses will make an X marks the spot over the middle east a few years latter.

And he is also very heavily into the specifications of the Asteroid Apophis, which will make a close pass in 2029 and 3036. One of it's trips will be on Friday the 13th. One of it's trips will be at a rare time when Easter and Passover will fall on the same day.

But i still think that it's happening now. So it's probably too spooky to tell about. But that's what i told the book guy in a PM. And darned if he's not a nice guy.

I told him that i think we'll be watching this Apophis business from the safety and warmth of New Jerusalem.

He asked me: "Are you sure you read the whole book?
 
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You have a lot to say that is completely false and against the scriptures.
I do have a lot to say; it contradicts your false beliefs!
But it is just what the Bible prophets tell us will happen in the forthcoming end times.

For most, like yourself, the end times will come upon you as a complete surprise. Wouldn't it be better to know and be prepared for all that we are plainly told will happen?
I told him that i think we'll be watching this Apophis business from the safety and warmth of New Jerusalem.

He asked me: "Are you sure you read the whole book?
His question should have been: How and when do you expect to get to New Jerusalem?

Like many 'prophecy experts', you book author has some truths and a lot of speculation. An asteroid bypass is not what the Bible prophets tell us will reset our civilization.
 

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I do have a lot to say; it contradicts your false beliefs!
But it is just what the Bible prophets tell us will happen in the forthcoming end times.

For most, like yourself, the end times will come upon you as a complete surprise. Wouldn't it be better to know and be prepared for all that we are plainly told will happen?

His question should have been: How and when do you expect to get to New Jerusalem?

Like many 'prophecy experts', you book author has some truths and a lot of speculation. An asteroid bypass is not what the Bible prophets tell us will reset our civilization.
What prophecy hasn’t been fulfilled?
 

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I do have a lot to say; it contradicts your false beliefs!
But it is just what the Bible prophets tell us will happen in the forthcoming end times.

For most, like yourself, the end times will come upon you as a complete surprise. Wouldn't it be better to know and be prepared for all that we are plainly told will happen?

His question should have been: How and when do you expect to get to New Jerusalem?

Like many 'prophecy experts', you book author has some truths and a lot of speculation. An asteroid bypass is not what the Bible prophets tell us will reset our civilization.
What you say is of your own interpretation of what is written...that's all. But you have interpreted poorly. The surprise will be to live and die and only witness the manifest foreshadowing of things expected under misinterpretation. You look for things that have already occurred...and if you don't believe it, just name one and I will show you the error.

On the contrary, I do not "believe", but know of what I speak.
 

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His question should have been: How and when do you expect to get to New Jerusalem?

I think that's more your kind of question Keras. The book guy agrees that we ARE going to the Father's House with many rooms, he just doesn't think that it's going to be as soon as I do. As for the actual how we get there, Jesus takes us. Would this not be true had He not told us so?

"My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go [THERE] and prepare a place for you, I will come back [HERE] and take you to be with me [THERE] that you also may be where I am.
Like Sesame Street, [HERE] and [THERE]. He will come back HERE, and take us THERE to be with Him that we may also be where He is: THERE.

Like many 'prophecy experts', you book author has some truths and a lot of speculation. An asteroid bypass is not what the Bible prophets tell us will reset our civilization.

I know it. That's why I don't post the link to his book. He's a nice guy though. He can discuss it without getting short on patience.

And he's a smart dude. Smart with numbers. And there is a lot of speculation, spooky speculation. So i guess you'd imagine he probably thinks one of the trips will be too close for comfort.

I'm more worried about tomorrow or next week than 2029 or 2036.

Neil Tyson makes it sound humorous in this video. And he gets the timing wrong, but then corrects himself at the end.

Death by Giant Meteor

 

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I built this timeline in the long ago.... Estimated dates....

4300 BC - Creation of Adam
2640 BC - The Great Flood
2060 AD - Christ’s coming
3100 AD - End of millennial and destruction of planet earth

I have man on this planet 7,400 years, and would put the accuracy of these dates within 400 years....

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Noah's dad Lamech complained of a cursed ground... " And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed." - Genesis 5:29

Taking the timeline of the church in parallel with the generations of Adam there was a severe famine during the time Noah was born. I would imagine a time of famine during the time of the Black Horseman, which days I believe we now live in....

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As far as Isaac Newton’s 2060AD quote he said....

““It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." –- Isaac Newton

I'm sorry...but, how is this not date-setting? And I don't buy "I'm setting a year, rather than a day or hour". That's just semantics. How on earth do you expect to wiggle around the bible edict that NO MAN will no when Christ will return? I mean, it says it often and emphatically.
 

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I'm sorry...but, how is this not date-setting? And I don't buy "I'm setting a year, rather than a day or hour". That's just semantics. How on earth do you expect to wiggle around the bible edict that NO MAN will no when Christ will return? I mean, it says it often and emphatically.
Really like the new art.
Who painted this?
 

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Really like the new art.
Who painted this?

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Kume Bryant Art

A touch of cheer to your home. Light upon a new detail every time you look.

I love the messy process of painting. I aim to lift spirits with colors and subjects that give joy. My works are done with bright, vibrant and uplifting colors into positive, hopeful, joyful, dreamy, and happy paintings in a loose style. I hope that the viewers see and feel the freedom in my art by its brush strokes, and the mingling and interacting colors.

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Cross 2 - Kume Bryant Art

If i don't get into trouble as a "date setter", i can get into trouble going "off topic" and Hi jack the thread.
 
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Kume Bryant Art

A touch of cheer to your home. Light upon a new detail every time you look.

I love the messy process of painting. I aim to lift spirits with colors and subjects that give joy. My works are done with bright, vibrant and uplifting colors into positive, hopeful, joyful, dreamy, and happy paintings in a loose style. I hope that the viewers see and feel the freedom in my art by its brush strokes, and the mingling and interacting colors.

cross-2-kume-bryant.jpg


Cross 2 - Kume Bryant Art

If i don't get into trouble as a "date setter", i can get into trouble going "off topic" and Hi jack the thread.
Beautiful, no grief from me.
 

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What you say is of your own interpretation of what is written...that's all. But you have interpreted poorly. The surprise will be to live and die and only witness the manifest foreshadowing of things expected under misinterpretation. You look for things that have already occurred...and if you don't believe it, just name one and I will show you the error.

On the contrary, I do not "believe", but know of what I speak.
When did Isaiah 30:26a happen? This very clearly stated prophecy has never happened yet, but astrophysicists warn of the real possibility/ probability of a sun explosion that would literally cause all the vividly prophesied effects of the terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath.

Yours and my beliefs about what God has planned for these end times, are just two of millions of different ideas, theories, wild imaginings and speculations about it all. But it will take place as Written, interpretation isn't required; just clear the mind of all the false teachings and understand the plain Words.
"My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go [THERE] and prepare a place for you, I will come back [HERE] and take you to be with me [THERE] that you also may be where I am.
The error is in thinking that Jesus is in heaven at that time. He is now, but He will Return and reign for 1000 years. Christians will be His priests and co-rulers. Revelation 5:9-10
Then; after the Millennium, the new Jerusalem, that Jesus has prepared; comes to the earth and all the faithful people will be with Him always.

Simple, scriptural and what will happen. Trying to prove a 'rapture to heaven' out of that verse, is sheer speculation, assumption and wishful thinking.
 

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When did Isaiah 30:26a happen? This very clearly stated prophecy has never happened yet, but astrophysicists warn of the real possibility/ probability of a sun explosion that would literally cause all the vividly prophesied effects of the terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath.

Yours and my beliefs about what God has planned for these end times, are just two of millions of different ideas, theories, wild imaginings and speculations about it all. But it will take place as Written, interpretation isn't required; just clear the mind of all the false teachings and understand the plain Words.
There is only what is true, and what is false.

Jesus answered your question 2000 years ago, and I will now also answer it: "today." "Today" tens of thousands of people will see all that Isaiah foretold.

Every eye will see Him. But you have not had what is "required." You have not believed Jesus, and so join those "millions of different ideas, theories, wild imaginings and speculation about it all."
 

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Simple, scriptural and what will happen.

This is what Keraz believes will happen, but the reality is his interpretation of the scriptures is flawed by not understanding the contextual significance of what has been written in the scriptures or the actual meaning of the original Greek words that were used in the Greek source texts of our translations. For one such example, βασιλεύσουσιν in Rev 5:10 is not about an authoritative ruling over people but is rather about an authoritative influencing of people. We have Christ's authoritative influence in our respective lives towards righteousness as Paul spelt out in Romans 5:17 as shown in my paraphrase of the scripture passage below.

Romans 5:12-17: - 12 Therefore, just as through one man, sin entered the world, and death/the second death through sin, and thus death/the second death spread to all men, because all sinned — 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death/the second death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man's offense death/the second death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness in their life through the authoritative influence of One, Jesus Christ.)

Where "the authoritative influence" is a better way of translating the Greek word βασιλεύσουσιν than "reign" where the translators were more focused on "ruling over" people rather than being a blessing to other people in influencing/drawing the lives of others towards Christ.

As such the saints will have an influence on those around them during the first 1,000 years of the Millennium Age and will not lord it over the people around them.

This is more in keeping with the heart of God to love people into the Kingdom of God.

But Keraz will reject this as be believes the translations are infallible because six or seven of them convey the same message in their respective translations.

However, so be it. People are entitled to their stubborn opinions and theories about the end times.

Shalom