Calvinism

Willie T · Oct 19, 2019

Mjh29 said:
Oh, I get the terminology... the difference is we use these terms to defend God's power in salvation, not our own power in "healing"

Back up now! I never said one single word about "my power."

Grailhunter · Oct 19, 2019

Mjh29 said:
Jesus got authority from himself as God incarnate. He could heal whatever he wanted, but He only healed those who had faith in Him, because He came to redeem and heal His people, not the whole world.

And again, this doesn't explain why you don't just command all sickness to be banished from the world?!!

Jesus got authority from himself as God incarnate.

I think if you crack the Bible open you will find that Christ was given all authority by God the Father. If you do not know the scriptures I can point you to the truth. I know you like to think you know more and have more authority than Christ...But that is how man-made religions go.....contradict Christ and put words in His mouth and slander God.

Preacher4Truth · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Jesus got authority from himself as God incarnate.

I think if you crack the Bible open you will find that Christ was given all authority by God the Father. If you do not know the scriptures I can point you to the truth. I know you like to think you know more and have more authority than Christ...But that is how man-made religions go.....contradict Christ and put words in His mouth and slander God.

Your entire post is grandstanding and false accusations.

Waiting on him · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Jesus got authority from himself as God incarnate.

I think if you crack the Bible open you will find that Christ was given all authority by God the Father. If you do not know the scriptures I can point you to the truth. I know you like to think you know more and have more authority than Christ...But that is how man-made religions go.....contradict Christ and put words in His mouth and slander God.

It’s the Spirit within Him that did the works.

Grailhunter · Oct 19, 2019

Waiting on him said:
It’s the Spirit within Him that did the works.

Preacher4Truth said:
Your entire post is grandstanding and false accusations.

I think if you crack the Bible open you will find that Christ was given all authority by God the Father. If you do not know the scriptures I can point you to the truth.

Preacher4Truth said:
Your entire post is grandstanding and false accusations.

Calvinism, by history or doctrine the worst of the bunch. They do a better job at slandering God than even the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Preacher4Truth · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
I think if you crack the Bible open you will find that Christ was given all authority by God the Father. If you do not know the scriptures I can point you to the truth.

Calvinism, by history or doctrine the worst of the bunch. They do a better job at slandering God than even the Jehovah's Witnesses.

More false accusations!

Grailhunter · Oct 19, 2019

Preacher4Truth said:
More false accusations!

Let me know if you want me to get into the details of this monstrous religion, because it is going to get nasty!

Mjh29 · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Let me know if you want me to get into the details of this monstrous religion, because it is going to get nasty!

Let me know if you want a defense of Calvinism from the Scriptures, because it is going to get Reformed and informed

Preacher4Truth · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Let me know if you want me to get into the details of this monstrous religion, because it is going to get nasty!

Go for it!

John Caldwell · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
I think if you crack the Bible open you will find ...

LOL....good luck with that.

Waiting on him · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Let me know if you want me to get into the details of this monstrous religion, because it is going to get nasty!

John 14:10 KJV
[10] Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

You’ll have to save your nasty for God.
Tecarta Bible

Grailhunter · Oct 19, 2019

Preacher4Truth said:
Go for it!

Make my day! Right! So tell them when your god predestines people to Hell!

Mjh29 · Oct 19, 2019

John Caldwell said:
LOL....good luck getting him to do that.

Yeah, and even if he does, good luck trying to get us to believe him, am I right? Why be corrected by Scriptures when we can just ignore and name-shame, right? WAY easier than dealing with the Scriptures honestly.

Rightly Dividing the Word?

Waiting on him · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Make my day! Right! So tell them when your god predestines people to Hell!

Where is Hell

Preacher4Truth · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Make my day! Right! So tell them when your god predestines people to Hell!

Um, waiting on your details, not your straw man accusations. Get on with it, no need for further delays or callow behavior.

Grailhunter · Oct 19, 2019

Waiting on him said:
John 14:10 KJV
[10] Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

You’ll have to save your nasty for God.
Tecarta Bible

Matthew 28:18-20
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

Matthew 11:27
"All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

Philippians 2:9
For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,

Colossians 2:10
and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

1 Peter 3:22
who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.

John 3:35
"The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand.

Matthew 28:17
When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful.

John 17:2
even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.

Grailhunter · Oct 19, 2019

Preacher4Truth said:
Um, waiting on your details, not your straw man accusations. Get on with it, no need for further delays or callow behavior.

You cannot tell the truth because the truth is not in you.
Go ahead I dare you. When does your god condemn people to Hell?

Mjh29 · Oct 19, 2019

Again, if we want to go at this from the Scriptures, we can... "Crack our Bibles" as John C said that we apparently can't.

I'll crack my Bible if you promise to let it correct you

Mjh29 · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
You cannot tell the truth because the truth is not in you.
Go ahead I dare you. When does your god condemn people to Hell?

People condemn themselves to Hell. Does God sin for us? Nope.

Oh, but you don't believe in Free will!

Nope, I don't, and neither does the Bible.

But if they don't have free will then God FORCES people to sin!

Again, nope. Men want to sin; God let's them do what they want to do... all the way to Hell.

Waiting on him · Oct 19, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Matthew 28:18-20
And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

Matthew 11:27
"All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

Philippians 2:9
For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,

Colossians 2:10
and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

1 Peter 3:22
who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him.

John 3:35
"The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand.

Matthew 28:17
When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful.

John 17:2
even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.

Ok, you can post scripture, what does it say to you.

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