When God is Silent

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the silence of our own thoughts becomes sacred because the prolonged longing makes us one with the mind of God so profoundly and sweetly that our thoughts actually express God's thoughts and guidance for us! We often miss this guidance because we expect a message directly from God printed on the neon screen of our mind!
So true.

When we stop and think and get honest, we know what God tells us. And when we pay attention to whether our thoughts reflect Scripture, we will see how much we think in the mind of Christ.

Much love!
 
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@Nancy

I see that you've just read and appreciated C. S. Lewis's "A Grief Observed." So I suspect you might really enjoy "The Shadowlands," a movie about how C. S. Lewis falls in love with Joy and then is forced to grieve her battle with cancer and her death. Watch it here:


I am now a retired Methodist pastor, but during my ministry I led a monthly Friday potluck dinner and movie night. The movies all featured Christian themes and I picked "The Shadowlands" because I considered it the best movie on grief ever made.
Hey, now there's an idea!

I lead our monthly potluck. Maybe that's what we should do sometimes, a movie!
 
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@Nancy

I see that you've just read and appreciated C. S. Lewis's "A Grief Observed." So I suspect you might really enjoy "The Shadowlands," a movie about how C. S. Lewis falls in love with Joy and then is forced to grieve her battle with cancer and her death. Watch it here:


I am now a retired Methodist pastor, but during my ministry I led a monthly Friday potluck dinner and movie night. The movies all featured Christian themes and I picked "The Shadowlands" because I considered it the best movie on grief ever made.
Berserk, Thank you for sharing that. It has been a few years/tears since I watched Shadowlands, but it is great that it is now available online. I am going to pass on this info to a number of people I know that would enjoy it but in many cases, need it!
 

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Greetings brothers and sisters!
This is a subject I've been looking into for a little while now. Does this happen to everyone? I am thinking it does, at least to a certain extent. God was silent for 13 years with Abraham yet, his faith only grew stronger! Even David had his times of silence, not to mention poor Job.
It can be a very difficult thing to see His light inside our own personal darkness but, these dark times seem to be THE very time to immediately pray/praise Him!
There are many reasons, IMHO that He is silent with us sometimes (sometimes even to the point of desolation) it could be sin in our lives, or simply an opportunity to grow in faith...right smack dab through the darkest of times. Such an opportunity to seek Him! ~ and it can be the hardest thing to do when one feels as though they are having a one way conversation in a relationship with The Father. We KNOW He is still there because we believe His Word.
Does anybody have anything to add here? :)

nancy

Yes I have most definitely endured times of God's silence. It's painful - no getting around it. When we cry out to God, go through our life to see if there be any sin and think we find none - then when God remains silent it's hard.

I cried out to God for a prayer I greatly wanted and He let me wait for 15 years - He was silent on the matter. And boy did I cry out. I beat on heaven's door. I have no idea why He was silent for that long. The only thing I can see it did was gave me endurance in prayer. I spoke with a pastor one time and he told me that prayer was like chopping down a tree - you don't get it with one blow of the axe.

Times of silence are hard because when you have faith - you know God hears and yet doesn't act - it seems insensible. They're times I struggle with God. Scripture tells us to "endure hardness" and God wasn't kidding when He had those words recorded. He must be doing a work within us. An old saint - now in the celestial city - told me that most of the work God does is IN us. So I assume that times of silence God has a work within us to do. Although I watched a show about these Mexican and Guatemalan girls who were promised a job in the U.S. and when they got here they were forced into prostitution. The one young girl told detectives when she was finally released that she lost her faith in God because she was beaten and raped so many times.

How does one come to terms with something like that? I struggle with evil that I've experienced with no relief and no answer from God and no justice against perpetrators. Those are times I really struggle with God.
 
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19th century missionary, J. Hudson Taylor, is one of the most revered and effective Protestant missionaries of all time. In pioneering the China Inland Mission, he suffered greatly from deprivation, discouragement, persecution, and even the loss of his wife on the mission field. Given the price he paid for his highly effective service, I am deeply inspired by one of his answers to the question of one of the keys to his success: "I learned that I could receive the greatest answers to prayer when my heart felt like wood." Even during the frustration of God's prolonged silence in time of great need, hi faith could be effectively victorious, if he persisted in trusting God's promises.
 

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Yes I have most definitely endured times of God's silence. It's painful - no getting around it. When we cry out to God, go through our life to see if there be any sin and think we find none - then when God remains silent it's hard.

I cried out to God for a prayer I greatly wanted and He let me wait for 15 years - He was silent on the matter. And boy did I cry out. I beat on heaven's door. I have no idea why He was silent for that long. The only thing I can see it did was gave me endurance in prayer. I spoke with a pastor one time and he told me that prayer was like chopping down a tree - you don't get it with one blow of the axe.

Times of silence are hard because when you have faith - you know God hears and yet doesn't act - it seems insensible. They're times I struggle with God. Scripture tells us to "endure hardness" and God wasn't kidding when He had those words recorded. He must be doing a work within us. An old saint - now in the celestial city - told me that most of the work God does is IN us. So I assume that times of silence God has a work within us to do. Although I watched a show about these Mexican and Guatemalan girls who were promised a job in the U.S. and when they got here they were forced into prostitution. The one young girl told detectives when she was finally released that she lost her faith in God because she was beaten and raped so many times.

How does one come to terms with something like that? I struggle with evil that I've experienced with no relief and no answer from God and no justice against perpetrators. Those are times I really struggle with God.

Yes, it is frustrating yet, we know He hears us and in the silent times, I try so to realize that His timing is perfect. My mom believed all 7 of her children would become saved. She did not live to see it yet, she believed it with all her heart. We are all born again believers now. So, when our patience wears thin, I just remember that and it gives me rest in my soul knowing He is always working in the background and, not "seeing" answers to our prayers quickly just say's to me that it is not the perfect timing yet. And, yes...we need to keep on praying until we have the peace that surpasses all understanding, especially if we already know we are praying His will and not our own, we know He will answer... 1 John 14-15 :)
 

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Remember be still and know that I am God. As He is working to give us what we need. Not what we think we want. Glad that all seven were saved BTW Nancy.
 
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Good topic, Nancy!

Like most of us, I've been through some pretty tough times--death of loved ones, loss, betrayal, depression.... But the most difficult experiences of my life have been when I haven't been able to hear God's voice in the dark times. As long as I know He's with me, I know I can make it.

It seems to me that this is a special kind of testing. In times like these, we have to choose to believe that He is with us because He said He will never leave us nor forsake us. I know that my faith is stronger for having been tempered in this way.

Yes, Just yesterday, in the mid-day prayer I ask to just hear, as The Patriarchs did when they called upon Him, just! "Here I Am"! Since Cheryl passed away, I pray more than ever before, because all I have is the Father & Son which at this point and time is just Fine!
The Concern's of this life have abandoned me, so that all I want to do is to Serve Them!
Being without a Companion is OK, I do not believe that I am Alone! Anyway we were fused together as one!
 

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Remember be still and know that I am God. As He is working to give us what we need. Not what we think we want. Glad that all seven were saved BTW Nancy.

Thank you J,
That is one of my favorite verses, BTW :)
 

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Yes, Just yesterday, in the mid-day prayer I ask to just hear, as The Patriarchs did when they called upon Him, just! "Here I Am"! Since Cheryl passed away, I pray more than ever before, because all I have is the Father & Son which at this point and time is just Fine!
The Concern's of this life have abandoned me, so that all I want to do is to Serve Them!
Being without a Companion is OK, I do not believe that I am Alone! Anyway we were fused together as one!

Being alone is something God has given us the grace to be able to do. It makes us depend on Him even more. It also gives us the ability to serve Him even more. I still pray for your well being Truth. ❤
 
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Yes, it is frustrating yet, we know He hears us and in the silent times, I try so to realize that His timing is perfect. My mom believed all 7 of her children would become saved. She did not live to see it yet, she believed it with all her heart. We are all born again believers now. So, when our patience wears thin, I just remember that and it gives me rest in my soul knowing He is always working in the background and, not "seeing" answers to our prayers quickly just say's to me that it is not the perfect timing yet. And, yes...we need to keep on praying until we have the peace that surpasses all understanding, especially if we already know we are praying His will and not our own, we know He will answer... 1 John 14-15 :)

That's an encouraging story Nancy! I've prayed for specific family members' salvation. It's interesting that I prayed for one's salvation and their future spouse was saved! Go figure! I guess God has His plans.
 
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I hope you guys understand I mean no offense, but when y’all say save now I hear lost as two boys etc etc
Okay then. ??
Well my point was kind of that Stan is maybe correct in a sense, But I detected some miraculous Dash tomorrow Dash divining going on, whereas in my opinion we are being “judged” today for what we did yesterday?
 
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I hate to even say this to you Nancy, so please take it in the spirit intended, but another way of looking at that is you are all commending yourselves to each other now, yes?

Um, no..why would we "commend" ourselves to each other?? Personally? I give God every single bit of glory that my bros and sisters have had their eyes opened. Should I not be ecstatic they are saved?? Do you discount decades of my mothers prayers for her children?
 

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Yah Please tell me someone here sees the problem?
Would you be happier if we were all kindling for hell? I'm not at all getting you right now. Does not Heaven rejoice in the presence of the angels when ever a soul is saved? Yer bursting my happy bubble today Mark.
 

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Um, no..why would we "commend" ourselves to each other?? Personally? I give God every single bit of glory that my bros and sisters have had their eyes opened. Should I not be ecstatic they are saved?? Do you discount decades of my mothers prayers for her children?
you already commended yourselves to each other Nancy. Should you not be ecstatic they are saved I don’t know, I’m pretty sure our definitions of saved are different. Italics few there are who find it right