Calvinism

Grailhunter · Oct 20, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Cool. So lets find out what you think of Christ's planning.

Do you think His best plan was to make you an it?

Waiting on him · Oct 20, 2019

Grailhunter said:
Cool. So lets find out what you think of Christ's planning.

Your to late, the seeds have already been sown.

Grailhunter · Oct 20, 2019

Waiting on him said:
Your to late, the seeds have already been sown.

I do not think God is going to give up on you.

Anthony D'Arienzo · Oct 20, 2019

John Caldwell,

Many Calvinists don't read Scripture.

What a foolish post. You will make any claim to attack the brethren.

They search it for proof texts to support their theories.

Every Calvinist on here has schooled you over and over scripturally. You resent that rather than receive correction.

VictoryinJesus · Oct 20, 2019

Grailhunter said:
If you do not have free-will you are an it. A puppet on a string. A child of God has free-will. An the nothing that you are, He felt enough for to be nailed to a cross. You make Him so mindless.

Curious. Do you see Jesus Christ as a puppet? Yes, we see His battle in “not My will but Your Will be done” to the Father. But the entirety of the Word tells of His fore-ordained sufferings even beginning at “the Word was made flesh” John 1:14
[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 1:10-11 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. [11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

1 Peter 1:10-12 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: [11] Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. [12] Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Even Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Is it mindless and puppetry because it is told before?

Preacher4Truth · Oct 20, 2019

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
John Caldwell,

Have you read the gracious comments that are offered to us? Some here love Calvinists as much as you do.

No one here is a hyper Calvinist. You cannot resist lying and making false accusations can you?
Show one hyper Calvinist post. It is abundantly clear you do not know what you are talking about. You exist to bear false witness, but now we are holding you accountable for your lies for everyone to see.

Ever notice that when we preach the word, glory in God, Christ, the Spirit, giving all glory to them while recipients of their hate, it's an "agenda" and we're hit with false accusations? Of course you have. Yes, he loves to break the 9th, sadly. Perhaps he will be brought to repentance as all the elect, 2 Peter 3:9.

Oh, and our "intimacy" is love for one another, John 13:35, something he lacks and mocks.

John Caldwell · Oct 20, 2019

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
John Caldwell,

Have you read the gracious comments that are offered to us? Some here love Calvinists as much as you do.

No one here is a hyper Calvinist. You cannot resist lying and making false accusations can you?
Show one hyper Calvinist post. It is abundantly clear you do not know what you are talking about. You exist to bear false witness, but now we are holding you accountable for your lies for everyone to see.

Hyper-Calvinists do not believe themselves hyper.

Why do you believe you are not a Hyper-Calvinist?

Waiting on him · Oct 20, 2019

Preacher4Truth said:
Ever notice that when we preach the word, glory in God, Christ, the Spirit, giving all glory to them while recipients of their hate, it's an "agenda" and we're hit with false accusations? Of course you have. Yes, he loves to break the 9th, sadly. Perhaps he will be brought to repentance as all the elect, 2 Peter 3:9.

Oh, and our "intimacy" is love for one another, John 13:35, something he lacks and mocks.

It is our bond, though I don’t believe I’m a Calvin

John Caldwell · Oct 20, 2019

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
John Caldwell,

What a foolish post. You will make any claim to attack the brethren.

Every Calvinist on here has schooled you over and over scripturally. You resent that rather than receive correction.

No Calvinist here has been able to defend their view with Scripture (with what is written). All we get is "that's not how good theology is done".

The Calvinists here have only succeeded in regurgitating their same worn out theology and unrelated passages in an attempt to conceal their inability.

Grailhunter · Oct 20, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
Curious. Do you see Jesus Christ as a puppet? Yes, we see His battle in “not My will but Your Will be done” to the Father. But the entirety of the Word tells of His fore-ordained sufferings even beginning at “the Word was made flesh” John 1:14
[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 1:10-11 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. [11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

1 Peter 1:10-12 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: [11] Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. [12] Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Even Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Is it mindless and puppetry because it is told before?

The question is are you a puppet? Christ is definitely not a puppet...He is a God and the Children of God are not its.

VictoryinJesus · Oct 20, 2019

Grailhunter said:
The question is are you a puppet? Christ is definitely not a puppet...He is a God and the Children of God are not its.

As always one who was afraid of what was around the next corner...I’m grateful God is all-knowing and all-powerful. I wouldn't mind being His puppet since it would mean doing something worth something instead of a Life wasted.

Grailhunter · Oct 20, 2019

John Caldwell said:
No Calvinist here has been able to defend their view with Scripture (with what is written). All we get is "that's not how good theology is done".

The Calvinists here have only succeeded in regurgitating their same worn out theology and unrelated passages in an attempt to conceal their inability.

It is the same thing that the Jehovah's Witnesses do. They weave a theology with selected scriptures. It does not make sense if they thought for a moment. A puppet is an it. You might as well be a slobbering it in a wheelchair with God pushing you around. They give God very little credit. That is the best plan they think God could come up with. Children of God in wheelchairs....Children of God on strings...what is the difference?

John Caldwell · Oct 20, 2019

Grailhunter said:
The question is are you a puppet? Christ is definitely not a puppet...He is a God and the Children of God are not its.

That is a good point.

Christ is the Lamb slain from the foundation. The cross was pre-determined by the Father. It was ordained that Christ would suffer and die. The Father laid our sins on Him. The Father offered His Son as a sin offering.

A consistent Calvinist has to deny that Christ lay down His own life.

Grailhunter · Oct 20, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
As always one who was afraid of what was around the next corner...I’m grateful God is all-knowing and all-powerful. I wouldn't mind being His puppet since it would mean doing something worth something instead of a Life wasted.

You people give God so little credit....
It is the same thing that the Jehovah's Witnesses do. They weave a theology with selected scriptures. It does not make sense if they thought for a moment. A puppet is an it. You might as well be a slobbering it in a wheelchair with God pushing you around. They give God very little credit. That is the best plan they think God could come up with. Children of God in wheelchairs....Children of God on strings...what is the difference?

Waiting on him · Oct 20, 2019

John Caldwell said:
No Calvinist here has been able to defend their view with Scripture (with what is written). All we get is "that's not how good theology is done".

The Calvinists here have only succeeded in regurgitating their same worn out theology and unrelated passages in an attempt to conceal their inability.

I’m not a Calvinist, but I’ll ask you, in scripture Paul pens
Galatians 1:15-16 KJV
[15] But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, [16] To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Is Paul referring to his biological birth
Or his spiritual birth? Keeping in mind, you must be born from above Jesus tells Nicodemus.

And Paul also pens Israel above is free the mother of us all.
Tecarta Bible

Anthony D'Arienzo · Oct 20, 2019

John Caldwell said:
Hyper-Calvinists do not believe themselves hyper.

Why do you believe you are not a Hyper-Calvinist?

I know what a Calvinist is. I know now you do not know the difference.
Calvinists opposed hyper Calvinists in England and thats where the modern missions movement came from.

VictoryinJesus · Oct 20, 2019

Grailhunter said:
You people give God so little credit....
It is the same thing that the Jehovah's Witnesses do. They weave a theology with selected scriptures. It does not make sense if they thought for a moment. A puppet is an it. You might as well be a slobbering it in a wheelchair with God pushing you around. They give God very little credit. That is the best plan they think God could come up with. Children of God in wheelchairs....Children of God on strings...what is the difference?

Maybe you give Him too little credit. Free will is overrated when it amounts to a big fat nothing. Zero. The Son knew it was all passing away...what He did in walking in what was before ordained for Him to walk in ...gave you a way.

Grailhunter · Oct 20, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
Maybe you give Him too little credit. Free will is overrated when it amounts to a big fat nothing. Zero. The Son knew it was all passing away...what He did in walking in what was before ordained for Him to walk in ...gave you a way.

That is all wrong. And your thinking that is the best plan God could come up with? He was nailed on a cross for that plan? Why would He let his Son be nailed to a the cross for such a sad and pathetic plan....You are believing in a horror flick. Entity come to the world and everyone walk around like robots. Of course it is worse than that, the entity tortures some forever. How does this add up in your head.

Waiting on him · Oct 20, 2019

John Caldwell said:
Christ is the Lamb slain from the foundation. The cross was pre-determined by the Father. It was ordained that Christ would suffer and die. The Father laid our sins on Him. The Father offered His Son as a sin offering.

Grailhunter said:
You people give God so little credit....
It is the same thing that the Jehovah's Witnesses do. They weave a theology with selected scriptures. It does not make sense if they thought for a moment. A puppet is an it. You might as well be a slobbering it in a wheelchair with God pushing you around. They give God very little credit. That is the best plan they think God could come up with. Children of God in wheelchairs....Children of God on strings...what is the difference?

difference is all in who gets the glory.

John Caldwell · Oct 20, 2019

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
I know what a Calvinist is. I know now you do not know the difference.
Calvinists opposed hyper Calvinists in England and thats where the modern missions movement came from.

A Calvinist understands predestination in salvation along the lines expressed in the Canons of Dort. But to a Calvinist this is soteriology.

A Hyper-Calvinist holds Calvinism as the gospel. To him it is his religion.

A Hyper-Calvinist rejects traditional hermeneutics because it makes God subject to a dictionary. Instead he assigns "biblical meanings" to words (liberal hermeneutics).

A Hyper-Calvinist believes it is not necessary to base essential belief on what is written but instead believes "good theology" is what they find implied in Scripture.

John Piper is a Calvinist. J.I. Packer is a Calvinist. D.A. Carson is a Calvinist. You are, by definition, a Hyper-Calvinists.

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