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Anthony D'Arienzo

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I actually mean "they". @Anthony D'Arienzo stated the same concern you expressed.

What made Anthony's statement a false accusation was that he accused me (and reported me, although he denies ever requesting censorship) for claiming he denies the divinity of Christ.

This is why Anthony is wrong - I said you both deny "Scripture itself states the divinity of Christ"

This does not get you off the hook as you try in vain to cover your lie...

It is simple...show any post where I deny that "scripture states the Divinity of Christ....

just find one,lol...you are trying to cover your lies so much you are confusing yourself.
 

Anthony D'Arienzo

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It's never going away now; I just took a picture of it.
I told forrest he has done this many times. He is lying so much he cannot cover the lies anymore. John...you need to repent of bearing false witness and calling us names. We are not pups, cultish, neo cals, hyper cals, children, mental patients, on medication,...no we are believers in the Lord Jesus Christ.
 

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I never said you used the word "censorship". But this is not the first time you asked that someone be censored nonetheless.
Liar, show any post where I requested censorship?
You deleted my post where I said I hate censorship in any form...do you deny that also.?
asking if a post is a board violation is not censorship. It is are the rules being enforced.
You banned me by taking it upon yourself to lie and said I requested censorship of a person...again show it...lol you cannot.
 

John Caldwell

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Notice not a single one of those verses explicitly state Jesus is God without bringing in other commentary, verses, etc etc etc.
No. They do not use those words. But as the author of Hebrews notes, it is explicitly stated.

Do you see the difference I'm driving at? Without commentary one can see that Jesus is God (the Word was with God and the Word was God). The only disagreement with John 1:1 is whether or not the Word refers to Jesus (which is explained in John 1 and by Christ). So there is no need for commentary or external sources.

Jesus says He is the Word. John says the Word is the One whom John testified saying "behold the Lamb of God". John says the Word was God. It is stated in Scripture (no room or need to bring into the passage anything else).

This is not true of the idea that God punished Jesus instead of punishing us. You can say that you believe this is what Scripture was speaking of, but you cannot say this is what Scripture actually says.
 

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Liar, show any post where I requested censorship?
You deleted my post where I said I hate censorship in any form...do you deny that also.?
asking if a post is a board violation is not censorship. It is are the rules being enforced.
You have probably been the strongest advocate for censorship over the past two months on this forum. Either you try to censor others by reporting them or by slander and discrediting them so others will not consider their words. Censorship is censorship and you are the censorship king. :rolleyes:
 

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You have probably been the strongest advocate for censorship over the past two months on this forum. Either you try to censor others by reporting them or by slander and discrediting them so others will not consider their words. Censorship is censorship and you are the censorship king. :rolleyes:

What Satan hates worst is being exposed. That is why he operates a lot in third world countries. But the evils of Calvinism has been exposed. I can post all these posters from all over the world. The world knows the evil of these people. They slander God!
 
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Anthony D'Arienzo

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I never said you used the word "censorship". But this is not the first time you asked that someone be censored nonetheless.
liar...I do not believe in censorship...I posted on it...you deleted the post. I did not use the word,,,,you took it upon yourself to SPEAK FOR ME which was another lie, saying I requested it...you reported to the Administration, let me refresh you defective lying memory;

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Iconoclast,

You started an issue with censorship while at the same time you reported the post of MB and Allen for denying the salvation of the other (or for approaching the charge) while denying the action on the public forum.

It seems that you are taking advantage of the system (saying one thing via report and another in the public forum). This is dishonest and demonstrates a lack of integrity. All on staff can see the dishonesty while the rest of the forum is blind to the lie.

I know I do not have to explain my actions to you, but regardless thought it may help you to act more honorably in the future.

One point given, expires in 6 months, for dishonesty and lying on the public forum.

Sincerely,

JonC

do you remember now? lol liar.

or this one ;


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Squire and rsr,

I posted a report showing where Iconoclast reported "repent and believe the gospel" to be questioning a members salvation. The issue is he directly denied this on the public forum.

I did not want to have Iconoclast banned (he's at least entertaining), so I posted his report. In hindsight I decided it was inappropriate to post reports and deleted the report. But this left warning Iconoclast for lying on the public forum. I gave him one point.

John

I could not answer back as you banned me, but I can now
 
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Anthony D'Arienzo

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You have probably been the strongest advocate for censorship over the past two months on this forum. Either you try to censor others by reporting them or by slander and discrediting them so others will not consider their words. Censorship is censorship and you are the censorship king. :rolleyes:
Not at all. You came here as a lying stalking troll. We knew it before but now you try and still cover sin, repent Jonc
 
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No. They do not use those words. But as the author of Hebrews notes, it is explicitly stated.

Do you see the difference I'm driving at? Without commentary one can see that Jesus is God (the Word was with God and the Word was God). The only disagreement with John 1:1 is whether or not the Word refers to Jesus (which is explained in John 1 and by Christ). So there is no need for commentary or external sources.

Jesus says He is the Word. John says the Word is the One whom John testified saying "behold the Lamb of God". John says the Word was God. It is stated in Scripture (no room or need to bring into the passage anything else).

This is not true of the idea that God punished Jesus instead of punishing us. You can say that you believe this is what Scripture was speaking of, but you cannot say this is what Scripture actually says.
We disagree. I plainly see PST in Scripture, without commentary, you do not.
 

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I speak to Him to and can hear Him just fine. He said no such thing to me, and He would if I did.
So you are saying to me that Jesus did not tell me to tell you
that to which He said to me to tell you? Is this correct?

I want to get this on record.
 

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While you are trying to figure a way how to lie out of this you are caught in
I suggest you stop you will not make it.

And your punishment will be worse.
 

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We disagree. I plainly see PST in Scripture, without commentary, you do not.
I do understand, David. I did as well...at one time.

There are many who see PST in Scripture and many who do not. My point is that if it were as plainly stated as the divinity of Christ it probably would have enjoyed a more popular adherence among Christians. That's all.

We all have our criteria. For me PST lacks the evidence for me to continue holding it. It was not a fun or easy task for me to move from the tradition. But it was (for me) necessary.