I do not believe that once God has made a person His child He will permit that person to be lost in hell. The following are some of the reasons why.I am not saved by God and made His child to fear but to come boldly into His presence in my heart expecting to be loved as His child. Please consider what Paul wrote about this. 2 Tim 1:7-8 7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God, (NKJ) Heb 4:15-16 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (NKJ) If people will look at the letters Paul wrote to the churches they will find that in every case it was not their good lives/works that he spoke of, but it was their faith. I recognize a child of God by where he/she has placed their faith; is it in Jesus or in themselves and their works. If you are using works of the flesh as a guideline to determine another child of God then you should consider what Jesus spoke of in the following references. Matt 7:2, John 8:15, Acts 4:19 Rom 2:1,Rom 14:10, James 4:11, Matt 23:25-26 Trying to judge another child of God by what is seen on the outside is foolishness. Even the Devil can make himself seem to be an angel of light. There are many Tares in the churches today and no one is able to determine who they are by their good works (Matt. 13:24-30). For those who wish to judge others I say this; judge them for what they do “”for Jesus,”” not what they do to make others see that they are a good person. My good works are sharing the gospel of God's grace as Paul taught it and I am constantly reminded of this written by Paul. Rom 14:4 4 Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. (NKJ) But I have come to understand that one of the sins of mankind is that they WANT to judge others. They do it to elevate their own ego.Scriptures that support OSAS.John 10:26-3026 "But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.27 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.28 "And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.29 "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand.30 "I and My Father are one." (NKJ)In the above verses the Son of God (God) has told us that His sheep know Him and He knows them and He gives them eternal life and they shall never perish. But many do not believe that Jesus has the power to keep a person saved? If they do not then they are left with having to trust in their own power and IMHO it will lead away from grace.1 Pet 1:4-54 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. (NKJ)I have an inheritance, promised by God, incorruptible and undefiled that does not fade away so how can anyone tell me that it will fade away and who, in the verse above keeps me a child of God? Isn't it God Himself?I Jn 5:4-54 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world-- our faith.5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? (NKJ)The scripture above tells us that God, through the non-physical baptism of the Holy Spirit, makes us His child (born of God) when we place our faith in what Jesus (God) did on the cross, and the scripture further tells us that we have overcome the world by our faith in what He (God) did on the cross. It does not say we overcome by our works. We overcome by our faith in What He has done.Everyone seems to look for proof IN THE SCRIPTURES that they are saved. What happened to faith? What happened to the relationship with God that is in the hearts of the children of God that lets them KNOW they are saved? The only proof anyone will have is the witness of the Holy Spirit in the hearts of the children of God. If they do not have that relationship then they are not a child of God.Rom 8:99 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. (NKJ)2 Cor 1:21-2221 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God,22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. (NKJ)It is God that establishes us in Christ, not us.2 Cor 5:5-75 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord.7 For we walk by faith, not by sight. (NKJ) If God makes you righteous by your faith, trust, confidence, and hope in what Jesus (God) did on the cross then why is it that many feel they must be made righteous by what they do? Let us look at the following verses.Heb 7:18-2218 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath21 (for they have become priests without an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him: "The Lord has sworn and will not relent, 'You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek' "),22 by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant.(NKJ)Heb 8:6-76 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.(NKJ)Under the law no one could be ""MADE"" perfect because of the weakness of men who live in a body with a sinful nature. Therefore He came, and because of what He did on the cross, He can, and will, justify those, that come to Him, by His own blood. He imputes, reckons, accounts (what ever word you wish to use) His righteousness to those of faith in Him (what He did and not what mankind does).In other words, God knows we cannot be good and keep the laws. He said so through Jesus. So He has made a way to give us the free gift of salvation that is NOT based on us (our works), but on Him. If salvation is still based on us then Jesus died in vain.Salvation under the grace of God is not by the law. God did all that is required to save us on the cross. Either you believe it, or you don't, that is what faith is. It is stepping out onto the water and knowing that He (God) can, and will, keep you afloat. No one can do it for you.Does all this mean we are free to sin? How can those walking with God in their hearts feel free to commit sin? --- In fact we condemn sins of the flesh when we no longer feel we can overcome our sins of the flesh and need the work of God on the cross.Richard