Should Christians not participate in Halloween?

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farouk

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Hmmmm.....so for the first 1,500 years of Christianity ppl didn't know Scripture? Luther, Calvin Zwingili brought everyone back to Scripture but they all had different interpretations of Scripture sooooo which version of Scripture was the right version they brought everyone back to?

In a nutshell...which one of them had it right?

Curious Mary
Read what Hebrews chapters 9 and 10 say about the finished offering of the Lord Jesus at the Cross.

Read what Paul in 1 Timothy 2.5 says about the Lord Jesus being the sole Mediator between God and men.

Read what the Lord Jesus says in John 14.6 about Himself.

Then consider what was being taught during the 1500 years that you mention, and compare it with Scripture; and you will have a ready answer as to who was really teaching the Scriptures, in the question you put.
 

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You should see our neighborhood - a guy a few doors down has his entire house outfitted with ghoulish decorations. All the stores are advertising. Everyone is pretty much clueless as to what Halloween is really about. When our town canceled it years ago I wish they had kept it canceled and the cancellations spread. Too many unsaved love the holiday though I guess.

It's so sad, because Aussie Christians used to be educated about this sort of stuff, maybe not educated enough, but at least enough to know not to go near it.
 

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What I meant was that those atrocities were committed by the corrupt leaders of a particular group during an isolated long-ago period of time, and no Denomination is free of similar skeletons in our own closets. Thus, we really should not be trying to get a rise out of the members of other denominations by poking at them with fairly invalid and irrelative verbal sticks.

Remember, EVERYONE, the members you are posting to did none of those things.
What I meant was that those atrocities were committed by the corrupt leaders of a particular group during an isolated long-ago period of time, and no Denomination is free of similar skeletons in our own closets. Thus, we really should not be trying to get a rise out of the members of other denominations by poking at them with fairly invalid and irrelative verbal sticks.

Remember, EVERYONE, the members you are posting to did none of those things.
understood, I would just like to convey to Mary that there was a legitimate reason for a reforming of the church. The church of the 1500s was not the church of the first century, it had been corrupted.
 
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We’ll never know, the Catholics murdered most of them
Ohhh.....I see! You don't want to have a serious conversation and back up your statement with any facts. Your intent was just to be mean and antagonistic.

Thank you for your time.
 

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I would not even try. :)
Hi troll,

I'm on to you and your troll game now....I've got only one good eye and it's on you kiddo....;)

One has to be enlightened themselves before they can enlighten someone else. Since you are not.....you can't.
 

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It's a pointless holiday that has nothing in it's culture about God. Neither does the 4th of July, but at least that's a holiday that doesn't glorify evil and has no false religious doctrine attached to it.
Ahhh! The subtle benevolence of satan-
Don't glorify an event, but do glorify a "beast", specifically the 2HB, aka the FP. Rev. 13:11-15
 

Marymog

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Read what Hebrews chapters 9 and 10 say about the finished offering of the Lord Jesus at the Cross.

Read what Paul in 1 Timothy 2.5 says about the Lord Jesus being the sole Mediator between God and men.

Read what the Lord Jesus says in John 14.6 about Himself.

Then consider what was being taught during the 1500 years that you mention, and compare it with Scripture; and you will have a ready answer as to who was really teaching the Scriptures, in the question you put.
Soooo you really can't back up your theory that the Reformation brought ppl back to Scripture.......:(

Ya' wanna know why you can't back it up? Because there is no historical evidence to support it.

Thank you for your time.....Mary
 

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Soooo you really can't back up your theory that the Reformation brought ppl back to Scripture.......:(

Ya' wanna know why you can't back it up? Because there is no historical evidence to support it.

Thank you for your time.....Mary
Look at all the Bible translations which emerged out of the Reformation period. I cannot take your comment seriously, sorry.
 
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...and in Medieval times Scripture was often kept from the people, in contrast with what happened at the Reformation.
Completely and utter NOT TRUE....you should learn your own Christian history.

Scripture (books) were hand written in Medieval times and very expensive. The average person could not afford one therefore only the rich could afford them. They were NOT kept from people. They just couldn't afford them.

Back to the drawing board on your theory.
 

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It depends which country you live in. Halloween in America is a different thing to Halloween in the UK.

Living in the UK, where there was NO Halloween when I was a child (it started to come in during the 80s), I regard it as an American import with nothing to recommend it. Elderly people dread it. We don't participate, and the churches organise alternative activities for the children of Christian families.
Over here pumpkins are part of fall. (My wife love pumpkin flavoured muffins...)
 

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Completely and utter NOT TRUE....you should learn your own Christian history.

Scripture (books) were hand written in Medieval times and very expensive. The average person could not afford one therefore only the rich could afford them. They were NOT kept from people. They just couldn't afford them.

Back to the drawing board on your theory.

Medieval Religion. In Europe during the Medieval times the only recognised religion was Christianity, in the form of the Catholic religion. The lives of the Medieval people of the Middle Ages was dominated by the church. Catholic preachers could preach what they liked because people could not check scriptures to see if they were liars or not. Most of them were liars and wolves in sheep clothing. People needed to pay hard earned cash to the church, believing they would receive salvation as told by the pope's liars....this was one of the major issues that triggered the reformation, and thank God for that.
 
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Quote from J.John:

Let me explain why I am negative about Halloween.

First, Halloween deceives us about evil. It creates a cartoon vision of evil as trivial, harmless fun that no one could possibly see as a threat. Yet all evil is serious and any messing with supernatural evil particularly so. To fool around with evil is a fool’s game.

Second, Halloween distracts us about evil. It presents evil in terms of the obvious and the spectacular; things that proclaim their identity w...ith fangs and claws, cackles and cloaks. Yet evil is at its most seductive when it is silent and subtle. The most dangerous evils are not clumsy figures in skeleton outfits knocking on your door; they are infinitely better disguised. In the real world the most deadly evil doesn’t turn up with nocturnal cries of ‘Trick or treat!’ Instead it tiptoes around unannounced in broad daylight. It is there in the sudden opportunity to cheat in an exam, the gentle request to submit an inflated expense claim, the boss’s quiet invitation to vote in favour of something illegal. The problem with the road to hell is that it never states its destination. By focusing on the recognisable and the grotesque, Halloween obscures the fact that most evil wears a charming face.

Finally, Halloween denies the defeat of evil. In Halloween, supernatural evil is presented as unchallenged and victorious. Yet as a Christian I believe that that’s only half of the story and the darkest half too. The reality is that evil has been defeated at the cross and that one day the crucified King will return and abolish even the memory of it forever. That, not Halloween, is the story that I want to celebrate. (J. John)
 

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Quote from J.John:

Let me explain why I am negative about Halloween.

First, Halloween deceives us about evil. It creates a cartoon vision of evil as trivial, harmless fun that no one could possibly see as a threat. Yet all evil is serious and any messing with supernatural evil particularly so. To fool around with evil is a fool’s game.

Second, Halloween distracts us about evil. It presents evil in terms of the obvious and the spectacular; things that proclaim their identity w...ith fangs and claws, cackles and cloaks. Yet evil is at its most seductive when it is silent and subtle. The most dangerous evils are not clumsy figures in skeleton outfits knocking on your door; they are infinitely better disguised. In the real world the most deadly evil doesn’t turn up with nocturnal cries of ‘Trick or treat!’ Instead it tiptoes around unannounced in broad daylight. It is there in the sudden opportunity to cheat in an exam, the gentle request to submit an inflated expense claim, the boss’s quiet invitation to vote in favour of something illegal. The problem with the road to hell is that it never states its destination. By focusing on the recognisable and the grotesque, Halloween obscures the fact that most evil wears a charming face.

Finally, Halloween denies the defeat of evil. In Halloween, supernatural evil is presented as unchallenged and victorious. Yet as a Christian I believe that that’s only half of the story and the darkest half too. The reality is that evil has been defeated at the cross and that one day the crucified King will return and abolish even the memory of it forever. That, not Halloween, is the story that I want to celebrate. (J. John)


That's very insightful.
 
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The reality is that evil has been defeated at the cross and that one day the crucified King will return and abolish even the memory of it forever.

Thats's true and thats exactly why I am not concerned about Halloween.
I took my two little boys around the country side from ranch to ranch on Halloween.
Was great fun for them, and now 40 years later they are still attending church and serving Christ.
No harm was done to them because of Halloween.
This whole Halloween thing has been a discussion in Christian circles and some of it is down right bizarre.
Parents need to inform their kids what it is all about and it does no harm.
Yes I avoid the skulls and bones stuff because it represents death. That's all.
 

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Thats's true and thats exactly why I am not concerned about Halloween.
I took my two little boys around the country side from ranch to ranch on Halloween.
Was great fun for them, and now 40 years later they are still attending church and serving Christ.
No harm was done to them because of Halloween.
This whole Halloween thing has been a discussion in Christian circles and some of it is down right bizarre.
Parents need to inform their kids what it is all about and it does no harm.
Yes I avoid the skulls and bones stuff because it represents death. That's all.
Those were not my words but sentence from a quote by J John which make a lot of sense. And I prefer to err on the side of caution rather than embrace that which the world considers to be harmless fun.

That was your choice as a Christian parent but most parents are not Christian and so are unable to teach their families the Christian way of life.
 

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Medieval Religion. In Europe during the Medieval times the only recognised religion was Christianity, in the form of the Catholic religion. The lives of the Medieval people of the Middle Ages was dominated by the church. Catholic preachers could preach what they liked because people could not check scriptures to see if they were liars or not. Most of them were liars and wolves in sheep clothing. People needed to pay hard earned cash to the church, believing they would receive salvation as told by the pope's liars....this was one of the major issues that triggered the reformation, and thank God for that.

WORD!