The Meaning of 666, The Reason for the Riddle

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I will prove the following two propositions:

1) 666 is a biblical allusion to a man’s name in the Old Testament: Adonikam.

2) The Holy Spirit inspired this Riddle to strengthen the faith of the generation alive in the End Time that will see Adonikam rise to become the Antichrist Beast.

We solve riddles by heeding its details, and spotting any double entendre hinting at a solution. For example, Samson’s riddle (Judges 14:14) contained the solution, honey eaten from the carcass of a lion (Judges 14:8-9, 18):

So he said to them: “Out of the eater came something to eat, And out of the strong came something sweet.” Now for three days they could not explain the riddle. (Jdg. 14:14) NKJ

The word “lion” in Hebrew (ʾarî) is almost identical to an Arabic word for “honey” (ʾary).-Wolf, H. (1992). Judges. In F. E. Gaebelein (Ed.), The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 & 2 Samuel (Vol. 3, p. 468). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House.

Lets Solve the 666 Meaning:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Rev. 13:18) KJV

John said 666 is the number OF a man, not the number of a name. That’s double entendre, 666 springs from the man, 666 exists because of what the man is or does, it is not his name in code. We must pay attention to the detail with strictness, John insisted we COUNT to arrive at 666, that is one half of the equation. To solve the riddle we must deduce the missing half of the equation that equals 666 and then determine what man caused that calculation to exist, for it is “OF” him. Therefore Gematria, numerology, symbolic meaning, etc. are completely irrelevant.

Lets review other details to find what else is implied in the wording:

This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. (Rev. 13:18) ESV

Christians seek wisdom in scripture, therefore John’s call for it must involve the Bible. Adonikam is the only Bible name of a man 666 and a calculation point to that everyone (3588 ὁ ho) understanding the Bible can find. Once directly (Ezra 2:13) and once after a calculation (Neh. 7:18) subtracting Adonikam’s father who must have had the same name, so 667-1=666 still points to Adonikam. The only reason for the existence of 666 and the calculation resulting in 666, is the man Adonikam so in that sense its the number OF a man named Adonikam, and also the number OF the Beast:

The children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six. (Ezr. 2:13) KJV

The children of Adonikam, six hundred threescore and seven. (Neh. 7:18) KJV

Having these two verses point to the same name is like having “two witnesses” establishing the matter (Deut. 19:15).

Adonikam alone is the elegant solution, it alone assembles John’s puzzle following all his requirements and still satisfies his expectation anyone with Bible wisdom will discover the one name he had in mind when he penned this riddle.

Not so Kabbalistic Gematria. The pieces just do not fit, and regardless how it is tweaked, so many names are produced it will never satisfy John’s expectation only one name will result and the probability the reader will pick the name John had in mind is infinitesimal.


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666 is the number of them that believed and were baptized by the Lord's anointed into the body of Christ: then being in the body, they defiled it with the works of man and fell away.


The 666 are those that fell away and this happened long ago. This is a generation of many professing Christ without the Spirit of God and a generation that has not been baptized into the body of Christ.
 

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... the difference between the discussions in this "Topic" and the Five Blind Men and the Elephant, is that the Five Blind Men didn't have anyone to explain that they were assessing different aspects of ONE ELEPHANT.

So they were at an INFORMATIONAL disadvantage. But the "presenters" in this Topic are obviously at an INTELLECTUAL disadvantage, -- because the "calculation" has not only been explained, but also several tangential aspects.

... But we'd rather be blind ...
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I will prove the following two propositions:

1) 666 is a biblical allusion to a man’s name in the Old Testament: Adonikam.

2) The Holy Spirit inspired this Riddle to strengthen the faith of the generation alive in the End Time that will see Adonikam rise to become the Antichrist Beast.

We solve riddles by heeding its details, and spotting any double entendre hinting at a solution. For example, Samson’s riddle (Judges 14:14) contained the solution, honey eaten from the carcass of a lion (Judges 14:8-9, 18):

So he said to them: “Out of the eater came something to eat, And out of the strong came something sweet.” Now for three days they could not explain the riddle. (Jdg. 14:14) NKJ

The word “lion” in Hebrew (ʾarî) is almost identical to an Arabic word for “honey” (ʾary).-Wolf, H. (1992). Judges. In F. E. Gaebelein (Ed.), The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 & 2 Samuel (Vol. 3, p. 468). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House.

Lets Solve the 666 Meaning:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Rev. 13:18) KJV

John said 666 is the number OF a man, not the number of a name. That’s double entendre, 666 springs from the man, 666 exists because of what the man is or does, it is not his name in code. We must pay attention to the detail with strictness, John insisted we COUNT to arrive at 666, that is one half of the equation. To solve the riddle we must deduce the missing half of the equation that equals 666 and then determine what man caused that calculation to exist, for it is “OF” him. Therefore Gematria, numerology, symbolic meaning, etc. are completely irrelevant.

Lets review other details to find what else is implied in the wording:

This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. (Rev. 13:18) ESV

Christians seek wisdom in scripture, therefore John’s call for it must involve the Bible. Adonikam is the only Bible name of a man 666 and a calculation point to that everyone (3588 ὁ ho) understanding the Bible can find. Once directly (Ezra 2:13) and once after a calculation (Neh. 7:18) subtracting Adonikam’s father who must have had the same name, so 667-1=666 still points to Adonikam. The only reason for the existence of 666 and the calculation resulting in 666, is the man Adonikam so in that sense its the number OF a man named Adonikam, and also the number OF the Beast:

The children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six. (Ezr. 2:13) KJV

The children of Adonikam, six hundred threescore and seven. (Neh. 7:18) KJV

Having these two verses point to the same name is like having “two witnesses” establishing the matter (Deut. 19:15).

Adonikam alone is the elegant solution, it alone assembles John’s puzzle following all his requirements and still satisfies his expectation anyone with Bible wisdom will discover the one name he had in mind when he penned this riddle.

Not so Kabbalistic Gematria. The pieces just do not fit, and regardless how it is tweaked, so many names are produced it will never satisfy John’s expectation only one name will result and the probability the reader will pick the name John had in mind is infinitesimal.


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You are on the right track, but it only points to the right track. The name "Adonikam" means: "my lord arose." The name is not the answer, but a sign.

The fact that the Lord Jesus arose, does not mean that it points to Him, but rather to His adversary: "The man of sin" (2 Thessalonians 2:3). It is this man who is third in succession: First came Adam, then Jesus ("the last Adam"), and then that "man of sin" that does not "follow Christ", but again takes up the flesh by the spirit of anti-Christ.

This man and beast, who did not follow after that "life giving spirit" the second and Last Son of Man, began here: Matthew 16:17
 
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... when a politician miracle working Christian rises up to head a revived Roman Empire ...

THREE errors:

1. The a/c is NOT a "politician". He's the world's most senior Political Statesman who is also a Jew, and he has never run for office, but has been appointed to a Cabinet level position.

2. He doesn't work "miracles" and he's not a "Christian". He's a Jew and he doesn't practice his religion or any other religion.
Note: Although the a/c doesn't presently work "miracles", in the future he will perform "miracles" under the power of satan.
3. There is no "Revived Roman Empire" either in Scripture or History.​

But other than those three incorrect assertions, everything thing else you stated, as cited above, is correct.


Whew,
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I will prove the following two propositions:

1) 666 is a biblical allusion to a man’s name in the Old Testament: Adonikam.

2) The Holy Spirit inspired this Riddle to strengthen the faith of the generation alive in the End Time that will see Adonikam rise to become the Antichrist Beast.

We solve riddles by heeding its details, and spotting any double entendre hinting at a solution. For example, Samson’s riddle (Judges 14:14) contained the solution, honey eaten from the carcass of a lion (Judges 14:8-9, 18):

So he said to them: “Out of the eater came something to eat, And out of the strong came something sweet.” Now for three days they could not explain the riddle. (Jdg. 14:14) NKJ

The word “lion” in Hebrew (ʾarî) is almost identical to an Arabic word for “honey” (ʾary).-Wolf, H. (1992). Judges. In F. E. Gaebelein (Ed.), The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 & 2 Samuel (Vol. 3, p. 468). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House.

Lets Solve the 666 Meaning:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Rev. 13:18) KJV

John said 666 is the number OF a man, not the number of a name. That’s double entendre, 666 springs from the man, 666 exists because of what the man is or does, it is not his name in code. We must pay attention to the detail with strictness, John insisted we COUNT to arrive at 666, that is one half of the equation. To solve the riddle we must deduce the missing half of the equation that equals 666 and then determine what man caused that calculation to exist, for it is “OF” him. Therefore Gematria, numerology, symbolic meaning, etc. are completely irrelevant.

Lets review other details to find what else is implied in the wording:

This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. (Rev. 13:18) ESV

Christians seek wisdom in scripture, therefore John’s call for it must involve the Bible. Adonikam is the only Bible name of a man 666 and a calculation point to that everyone (3588 ὁ ho) understanding the Bible can find. Once directly (Ezra 2:13) and once after a calculation (Neh. 7:18) subtracting Adonikam’s father who must have had the same name, so 667-1=666 still points to Adonikam. The only reason for the existence of 666 and the calculation resulting in 666, is the man Adonikam so in that sense its the number OF a man named Adonikam, and also the number OF the Beast:

The children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six. (Ezr. 2:13) KJV

The children of Adonikam, six hundred threescore and seven. (Neh. 7:18) KJV

Having these two verses point to the same name is like having “two witnesses” establishing the matter (Deut. 19:15).

Adonikam alone is the elegant solution, it alone assembles John’s puzzle following all his requirements and still satisfies his expectation anyone with Bible wisdom will discover the one name he had in mind when he penned this riddle.

Not so Kabbalistic Gematria. The pieces just do not fit, and regardless how it is tweaked, so many names are produced it will never satisfy John’s expectation only one name will result and the probability the reader will pick the name John had in mind is infinitesimal.


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Ty, never even heard of Adonikam :)
ps I doubt he’s the beast though
 

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Oh sorry I thought I erase that, I didn’t mean to make any comment on truth at all of course, but rather “he who says he knows...”

If we, the "church", has no TRUTH then what are we here for?!?

Perhaps GOD only "teases" us with "TRUTH". Perhaps there is no "GOD" and therefore no "TRUTH". Or, -- perhaps YOU haven't found any TRUTH yet. Are you seeking, or simply scoffing???

Bobby Jo
 

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If we, the "church", has no TRUTH then what are we here for?!?

Perhaps GOD only "teases" us with "TRUTH". Perhaps there is no "GOD" and therefore no "TRUTH". Or, -- perhaps YOU haven't found any TRUTH yet. Are you seeking, or simply scoffing???

Bobby Jo
man, just saying that i meant to comment on the Scripture he who says he knows bj, thats it bro. What you see is what you get, no inferences meant, pls take that at face value, etc
 

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man, just saying that i meant to comment on the Scripture he who says he knows bj, thats it bro. What you see is what you get, no inferences meant, pls take that at face value, etc

AlfredPersson said:

... when a politician miracle working Christian rises up to head a revived Roman Empire ...



Bobby Jo said:
THREE errors:

1. The a/c is NOT a "politician". He's the world's most senior Political Statesman who is also a Jew, and he has never run for office, but has been appointed to a Cabinet level position.

2. He doesn't work "miracles" and he's not a "Christian". He's a Jew and he doesn't practice his religion or any other religion.
Note: Although the a/c doesn't presently work "miracles", in the future he will perform "miracles" under the power of satan.
3. There is no "Revived Roman Empire" either in Scripture or History.

But other than those three incorrect assertions, everything thing else you stated, as cited above, is correct.


The fact is, -- we're TOLD to figure out the name of the a/c. And BECAUSE we're told, WE CAN figure out the name of the a/c. Now most Christians AND christians (both large "C" and small "c") haven't solved the simplest of puzzles, must less the complex puzzles. But they're solvable, given that we DO see through a glass darkly.

Now if you have some thoughts on my Post #28, I'd be glad to either walk you through the logic, or defend that logic, -- your choice. But as Mao said in ~19449: "sitting on the fence will not do, ... nor is there a third road". So choose ONE, but don't run from having an intelligent discussion ...

Bobby Jo
 

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Not so Kabbalistic Gematria.
Interesting idea. I had not noticed the Adonikam reference before.

Anyway, I did want to point out that while I agree with you regarding the vagueness of viewing the number as gematria, the practice is not Kabbalistic (it was culturally common for the period, as evidenced by its use in ancient "graffiti").
 

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AlfredPersson said:

... when a politician miracle working Christian rises up to head a revived Roman Empire ...



Bobby Jo said:
THREE errors:

1. The a/c is NOT a "politician". He's the world's most senior Political Statesman who is also a Jew, and he has never run for office, but has been appointed to a Cabinet level position.

2. He doesn't work "miracles" and he's not a "Christian". He's a Jew and he doesn't practice his religion or any other religion.
Note: Although the a/c doesn't presently work "miracles", in the future he will perform "miracles" under the power of satan.
3. There is no "Revived Roman Empire" either in Scripture or History.

But other than those three incorrect assertions, everything thing else you stated, as cited above, is correct.


The fact is, -- we're TOLD to figure out the name of the a/c. And BECAUSE we're told, WE CAN figure out the name of the a/c. Now most Christians AND christians (both large "C" and small "c") haven't solved the simplest of puzzles, must less the complex puzzles. But they're solvable, given that we DO see through a glass darkly.

Now if you have some thoughts on my Post #28, I'd be glad to either walk you through the logic, or defend that logic, -- your choice. But as Mao said in ~19449: "sitting on the fence will not do, ... nor is there a third road". So choose ONE, but don't run from having an intelligent discussion ...

Bobby Jo
well bj i mean no offense here ok, but Mao was a whackjob bro, right? Doesnt mean he couldnt be correct at times, but i suggest that there was no third option in his mind bc he had converted to satan's dialectic, what adults usually speak in, what you are speaking in right now, and i guess i pretty much am too even though i know better. If you want the truth, ask a little kid, yeh?

So, you can ignore the Scripture there if you like, and Alfred can too, i even understand, but nonetheless he who says he knows does not yet know as he ought, and fwiw i suggest taking the third option every time. And even being sensitive to those times when you (one) are being railroaded into choosing one of "the only two" options.

That we eat way more meat in the developed world than is healthy for us has been more or less settled i think

If you will, you might find the naive dialectic that you lost, so long ago that satan's now seems like "the only option."

we are told to "count" the number of the beast, right?
Revelation 13:18 Lexicon: Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
Strong's Greek: 5585. ψηφίζω (pséphizó) -- to count, calculate
(2 occurrences in Scripture), from
Strong's Greek: 5586. ψῆφος (pséphos) -- a small smooth stone, a pebble

but really you will not find him with satan's dialectic, it will stay hidden imo
(2 in 3)