The great commission....healing?

(tomwebster;67028)
I answered you, or don't you think the Holy Spirit can work through someone other than your pastor? Or maybe you have a pre-conceived notion of how the Spirit works and you can't see beyond that notion.
Seems to be a little stretching of what I said....but this thread is about discussing the great commission-healing. I stated that in the great commision it mentions healing...does it not?

(GoldenChild;67020)
Why am I sick?
This is something I can not answer...but encourage you to search the Word for healing scriptures. It is important for you to continually make the choice not to doubt and not to fear. For example, when the doctor says "cancer," our natural reaction is to become afraid. But remember, God is bigger than all of our problems put together! God made these bodies of ours, and He can fix anything that goes wrong with them. Therefore, when you get a "bad report" from the doctor, don't accept it! In your mind say, "I don't receive that." If you allow that "bad report" to get down into your heart then it will be difficult to have faith for your healing (for example, "as he thinketh in his heart, so is he" - Proverbs 23:7). Don't accept defeat! Don't accept a negative attitude or a negative viewpoint! If the doctor says that you need more tests or you need medication or whatever, follow your doctor's orders. You are under his or her authority. But don't receive the "bad report" down inside of you because it will become a root of fear or doubt within you. Watch what Jesus did when a man received a "bad report" that his daughter had died: "While Jesus was still speaking, some men came from the house of Jairus, the synagogue ruler. "Your daughter is dead," they said. "Why bother the teacher any more?" Ignoring what they said, Jesus told the synagogue ruler, "Don't be afraid; just believe."" (Mark 5:35-36) Notice that Jesus ignored the bad report, and he specifically told the dead girl's father to believe and not to fear. That's what you need to do. Follow your doctor's orders, but disregard the "bad report" that your doctor and your body (and your family members) are giving you. Your job is to believe and not to fear. Yes, you have real symptoms in your body, but those symptoms are not the truth. For example, I am a Christian, I am saved. But sometimes when I get up in the morning I don't feel very saved until I have a cup of coffee. Notice that my salvation is based on what Jesus has already done for me, it is not based on how I feel. My feelings are real, but they are not the truth. In the same way, your healing is based on what Jesus has already done for you, so don't focus on your symptoms or how you "feel." Your feelings are real, but they are not the truth. The Word of God is the truth, and we need to trust it!

We are made up of a spirit, a soul, and a body (e.g. 1 Thessalonians 5:23. Also see Hebrews 4:12). Our spirit is in constant contact with God, our body is in constant contact with the physical world, and everything else (our mind, will, emotions, personality, etc.) is our soul, according to Bible teachers. God is a spirit, and we are in constant contact with Him through our born-again spirit which is in Christ. We receive spiritual blessings from Him through our spirit, and it's our responsibility to manifest these spiritual blessings outwardly. For example, when we receive our born-again spirit at salvation, we also receive the fruit of the Spirit which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23). These are spiritual blessings (in our spirit), and we must use our mind and will so that these spiritual blessings are manifested outwardly in the physical world. In other words, we don't automatically love our neighbor, for example, but instead we had to be commanded to love our neighbor (Matthew 22:39, Romans 13:9-10). So even though the fruit of the Spirit is in our spirit, it is our responsibility to do something so that love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control are outwardly visible. Those things don't do anyone any good if they remain inside of us! We also receive gifts of the Spirit through our spirit, and it's our responsibility to do something so that our spiritual gifts are outwardly visible. If you have the spiritual gift of evangelism (e.g. Ephesians 4:11), for example, then it's in your spirit and available at all times, but you must speak to people in order for that gift to be outwardly visible. The point here is that we must do something in order for the fruit and gifts and blessings in our spirit to be manifested outwardly into the physical world. We must walk in love, and act with patience, and exercise self-control, and speak in evangelism, and so on, which causes these inward things to come outward

(tomwebster;66942)
So, Setfree, what are YOU doing to carry out the Great Commission?
To go back to your question...I am sharing with others what the Holy Spirit has shown me!

(Jordan;67034)
And what people share does not always come from God. Likewise, people claiming things of God and Christ and use the name of Jesus, doesn't exactly make it automatically holy. (Matthew 7:16-20, I John 4:1)
True!

So is healing in the Atonement, or isn't it?

Isaiah 53:4 (YLT): "Surely our sicknesses he hath borne, And our pains--he hath carried them, And we--we have esteemed him plagued, Smitten of God, and afflicted." Isaiah 53:5 (YLT): "And he is pierced for our transgressions, Bruised for our iniquities, The chastisement of our peace is on him, And by his bruise there is healing to us." ... Isaiah 53:12 (YLT): "Therefore I give a portion to him among the many, And with the mighty he apportioneth spoil, Because that he exposed to death his soul, And with transgressors he was numbered, And he the sin of many hath borne, And for transgressors he intercedeth." Peter 2:24: "He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed." In the above verse, Peter was paraphrasing Isaiah 53:4-5. Notice that both Peter and Isaiah mentioned that Jesus purchased our salvation as well as our healing in the Atonement. However, people sometimes assume that Peter meant, "by His death you have been spiritually healed [i.e. saved]." Is that really what he meant? When Peter used the word "wounds," the Greek word is molops. Strong's Greek Dictionary says that molops means "blow-mark:--stripe." When Isaiah used the word "wounds" (above), the Hebrew word is chabbuwrah. Strong's Hebrew Dictionary says that chabbuwrah means "blueness, bruise, hurt, stripe, wound." In the Greek and in the Hebrew, these words specifically mean "wound" or "stripe mark." Peter and Isaiah were not talking about Jesus' death, but instead they were specifically talking about His wounds (His "stripes"). Here's how a prominent Greek dictionary describes the Greek word molops: "A welt, a mark of fighting, a blow or wound made in war, also a scar, wheal, or the mark left on the body by the stripe of the whip. Used figuratively in 1 Pet. 2:24 referring to stripes, quoted from Is. 53:5." (The Complete Word Study Dictionary of the New Testament, Spiros Zodhiates, p.1000, emphasis added) So the Greek word molops specifically refers to a mark on the body which results from a wound, especially the type of stripe mark created by the vicious whipping that Jesus received on His back. When Peter and Isaiah referred to Jesus' "stripes" they meant His stripes, not His death. Peter said that Jesus' stripes brought healing to us, and he used the Greek word iaomai in that verse. In the vast majority of places where iaomai is used in the New Testament, it always refers to physical healing (here are the references: Matthew 8:8, 13, 15:28, Mark 5:29, Luke 5:17, 6:17, 19, 7:7, 8:2, 47, 9:2, 11, 42, 17:15, 22:51, John 4:47, 5:13, Acts 3:11, 9:34, 10:38, 28:8, Hebrews 12:13). In several places, it's possible that iaomai does not refer to physical healing (Matthew 13:15, Luke 4:18, John 12:40, James 5:16). So how do we know which meaning Peter was using? The apostle Matthew quoted from Isaiah's prophecy, just as Peter did, and Matthew specifically said that it involves physical healing. Therefore, Jesus' death purchased our salvation, and His "stripes" somehow purchased physical healing for us. Notice that Peter did not say that Jesus' death healed us, but instead Peter said that Jesus' wounds healed us. They're not the same thing! 1 Peter 2:24 (above) does not refer to salvation because it is not talking about Jesus' death. In other words, the stripes from the whip are different from a death on a cross.

1 Peter 2:24 does not refer to "spiritual healing" because our old self must be crucified (Romans 6:6, Galatians 2:20, 5:24). When we receive salvation, it does not cause our spirit within us to become "patched" or "healed." Instead, we are given a new spirit. So Jesus' stripes on His back purchased physical healing, and Jesus' death on the cross purchased salvation. Notice that Matthew explained that Jesus fulfilled Isaiah's prophecy by physically healing the sick: Matthew 8:16: "When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick." Matthew 8:17: "This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah: "He took up our infirmities and carried our diseases."" Isaiah had prophesied that the Messiah will take up our infirmities and carry our diseases, and Matthew 8:16-17 explains that Jesus fulfilled this prophecy by physically healing the sick. Matthew was quoting from the same prophecy that Peter quoted from when Peter said "by his wounds you have been healed" (1 Peter 2:24). Matthew has given us definite proof that Isaiah and Peter were talking about physical healing! Sometimes people say that when a prophecy is fulfilled then it has been accomplished "once and for all," never to be fulfilled again. According to that argument, Isaiah's prophecy of physical healing was fulfilled before the cross (Matthew 8:16-17), and therefore Isaiah's prophecy cannot mean that physical healing is in the Atonement. However, Jesus' healings in Matthew 8:16-17 were not a "once and for all" fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy because Jesus continued to heal people (e.g. Matthew 9:35, 12:15, 14:14, 14:35-36, 15:30, 19:2, 21:14). Notice that Matthew 8:16-17 was not the ultimate fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy because in Matthew 8:16-17 Jesus had not yet been "wounded" as Isaiah had prophesied. Therefore, when Jesus healed people before the cross, this does not prevent healing from being in the Atonement. In fact, notice that Jesus forgave some people's sins before the cross (e.g. Matthew 9:2, 6-7, Luke 7:48-50), which does not prevent the forgiveness of sins from being in the Atonement!

Find out what the Bible really says ......We all have assumptions and biases which we "absorbed" from our family, friends, church, and so on. The way to determine which ones are right and which ones are wrong is to question our assumptions and biases and find out what the New Testament really says about these things. But if we're not thorough and objective when we study the Bible then we're likely to form wrong conclusions. It's important to be willing to allow the Holy Spirit to show us new things! It's important to find out what the New Testament really says, and this means determining which view has the greatest weight of Scriptural support. For example, would you take a few jigsaw puzzle pieces and put them together and then claim that you can see the full picture with just those few pieces? Think about it for a moment! In order to see the full picture, you need to use all of the puzzle pieces and you need to fit them together properly. In the same way, if we're studying a doctrine (such as healing) but we only look at a few passages of Scripture, then we're not seeing the full picture of that doctrine. This means that our views about that doctrine might be totally wrong! Believe what the Bible says If we have tried to be thorough by studying as many passages as we can find concerning a doctrine, being honest and objective and open to the Spirit's leading, then we need to believe the view which has the strongest Scriptural support. Keep in mind that God is under no obligation to make sense to our tiny brain, so we must believe what He says no matter how unusual or strange it might sound! Do what the Bible says Stepping out in faith means taking a risk. You might end up feeling foolish. You might be ridiculed or rejected or persecuted by family, friends, people at your church, and so on. Jesus said that these things will happen, but He said that we are blessed when they happen. These types of things happened to Jesus in His earthly ministry, and they happened to Peter, John, Paul, Stephen, etc., as they continued Jesus' ministry on earth. If the approval of God is truly more important to us than the approval of men (Galatians 1:10), then we should take the risks and step out in faith, because without faith it is impossible to please God (Hebrews 11:6).

Read the following passages out loud and see if you can spot the one common thing which helped these people receive their healing. When you come across bold words, ponder them carefully: "Some men brought to him a paralytic, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, ... "Get up, take your mat and go home." And the man got up and went home." (Matthew 9:2-7) "By faith in the name of Jesus, this man whom you see and know was made strong. It is Jesus' name and the faith that comes through him that has given this complete healing to him, as you can all see." (Acts 3:16) "In Lystra there sat a man crippled in his feet, who was lame from birth and had never walked. He listened to Paul as he was speaking. Paul looked directly at him, saw that he had faith to be healed and called out, "Stand up on your feet!" At that, the man jumped up and began to walk." (Acts 14:8-10) "Then he touched their eyes and said, "According to your faith will it be done to you"; and their sight was restored" (Matthew 9:29-30) ""What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him. The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see." "Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road." (Mark 10:51-52) "Then he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you."" (Luke 8:48) "Then he said to him, "Rise and go; your faith has made you well."" (Luke 17:19) Notice that their faith was involved in receiving their healing!

While Jesus was on the earth, God the Father was accomplishing His will through Jesus: "Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work."" (John 14:9-10) Think about what it means. It means that when we see Jesus doing things in the Bible, those things are God's will. People sometimes wonder whether or not healing and health are God's will for us, so let's look at how Jesus answered this question: "A man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean." Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy." (Matthew 8:2-3) Think about this: Was Jesus willing to heal back then? Yes! Therefore, it was God's will to heal people back then. But is Jesus still willing to give us healing today? Yes! Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever: "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." (Hebrews 13:8)

Let it sink in that Jesus does not change. He was the Healer back then, and He is still the Healer today. Jesus does the will of God the Father, so healing and health are God's will for us. Sometimes a healing might happen instantly, and sometimes you will need to exercise patience until you see the healing, and sometimes you might not receive healing at all for one reason or another. Remember that Jesus healed everyone who wanted healing, which shows that healing and health are God's will for everyone. There is not a single case in the New Testament where anyone who wanted divine healing did not receive it, and there is not a single case where a person was told that his sickness was for the purpose of building character in him, and there is not a single case where sickness was called a "blessing," and there is not a single case where a sick person who wanted healing was left unhealed for any reason (this includes Lazarus, because Jesus resurrected him back to life and health), and there is not a single case where God used a sickness to bring someone Home to heaven, and there is not a single case where a person was told that it was not God's will for him to be healed, and there is not a single case where Jesus said that sickness glorifies God (it is healing that glorifies God), and there is not a single case where Jesus said that God had put sickness on someone to punish him or to chastise him, and there is not a single case where Jesus told people to be patient in sickness, and so on. The point here is that Jesus healed everyone who came to Him for healing, and He is the same yesterday and today and forever. Let it sink into your heart, let it become real to you that healing and health are God's will. Get this settled in your heart so that you have faith for your healing!

Luke 9:1-2,6,10: "When Jesus had called the Twelve together, he gave them power and authority to drive out all demons and to cure diseases, and he sent them out to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. ... So they set out and went from village to village, preaching the gospel and healing people everywhere. ... When the apostles returned, they reported to Jesus what they had done." Jesus prepared them to take over his ministry....it is part of the great commission!John 17:18-19: "As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world." Jesus was sent to...preached the Good News, healed the sick, and cast out demons.Mark 16:15-18: "He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.""The scriptures shows that healing is part of the commission......