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Our father who art in heavenhollowed be Thy nameThy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven...What is going to happen to earth when God's kingdom starts?How about heaven?
 

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It will be just like heaven, perfect, flawless, and full of the presence of God. God does not tempt nor can he be tempted. So, why would His own Son say V. 13 lead us not into temptation?
 

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Ezekiel 48:35It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.The Hebrew for The LORD is there is YHVH Shammah which will be the name of the city that God will rule from. Context of the verse can be seen beginning way back in Ezekiel 40. All of these verses deal with what the world will be like when Christ returns.
 

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It will be just like heaven, perfect, flawless, and full of the presence of God. God does not tempt nor can he be tempted. So, why would His own Son say V. 13 lead us not into temptation?
He was teaching us how to pray and we can be tempted. The Lord's real prayer is in John 17.
 

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Faithful1,Heaven is where God is. God will be here on earth.
We will never be able to see God and Jesus because they are spiritual beings.We will get our garden of Eden back and live a peaceful and perfect life on this earth forever under God's government. This earth will be paradise. The garden of Eden was paradise before Adam and Eve sinned. We could not live in the garden of Eden because Adam and Eve sinned.We will be in the perfect earth forever if we endure until end as Jesus' faithful servants.
 

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We will never be able to see God and Jesus because they are spiritual beings.
This statement is incorrect, we will be in the same spirit bodies that Christ is in. We will see Him as He is just as the disciples saw Him after He had risen.
 

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This statement is incorrect, we will be in the same spirit bodies that Christ id in. We will see Him as He is just as the disciples saw Him after He had risen.
We are all entitled to our opinions.God did not create the Earth just so we can tarnish and destroy. He meant it to last forever. God made the way to continue with His original idea. We will live on earth as God intended to be. We will live on perfect Earth when we are accepted by God. The Earth will be paradise like Adam and Eve time before they sinned.Good day.
 

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FaithfulQuote"God did not create the Earth just so we can tarnish and destroy. He meant it to last forever. God made the way to continue with His original idea. We will live on earth as God intended to be. We will live on perfect Earth when we are accepted by God. The Earth will be paradise like Adam and Eve time before they sinned."ReplyActually the earth was not perfect during the time of Adam and Eve,it was when He first created it,per Gen 1:1Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."Before God created mankind and formed Adam He destroyed the earth as it was,which is why it(the earth)became void and without form.Had satan not rebelled we would not have been made flesh,so to make a long story short,the earth will return ito its original form of Gen 1:1
 

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Had satan not rebelled we would not have been made flesh,so to make a long story short,the earth will return ito its original form of Gen 1:1
Satan challenged God that if God does not favor His faithful ones with rewards, His faithful ones will not be obedient to Him.So God gave satan to govern the earth. That's the main reason of the disaster of the earth. You can find about it in the Job too. I will find it if you want me to.
 

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FaithfulQuote"Satan challenged God that if God does not favor His faithful ones with rewards, His faithful ones will not be obedient to Him.So God gave satan to govern the earth. That's the main reason of the disaster of the earth. You can find about it in the Job too. I will find it if you want me to."ReplyI think you are missing my point,God destroyed the earth millions and millions of years before this incident with Job.When He destroyed the earth that first time we were not in flesh bodies
 

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FaithfulQuote"Satan challenged God that if God does not favor His faithful ones with rewards, His faithful ones will not be obedient to Him.So God gave satan to govern the earth. That's the main reason of the disaster of the earth. You can find about it in the Job too. I will find it if you want me to."ReplyI think you are missing my point,God destroyed the earth millions and millions of years before this incident with Job.When He destroyed the earth that first time we were not in flesh bodies
If God destryed the earth why are we still on it?
 

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Our father who art in heavenhollowed be Thy nameThy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven...What is going to happen to earth when God's kingdom starts?How about heaven?
You're an evangelist and you're asking posters the answer to that???In the first sentence it's hallowed be Thy name; not hollowed be Thy nameHallowed shows respect and honor; hollowed means something else entirely and shows no respect...
 

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You're an evangelist and you're asking posters the answer to that???In the first sentence it's hallowed be Thy name; not hollowed be Thy nameHallowed shows respect and honor; hollowed means something else entirely and shows no respect...
I am only asking if they know what the churches are teaching thir congregaion about this prayer.I know from my experience, not too many know what is all about.Why do you sound so hostile?
 

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I am only asking if they know what the churches are teaching thir congregaion about this prayer.I know from my experience, not too many know what is all about.Why do you sound so hostile?
I asked you to use the correct word-Hallowed be Thy Name in the Lord's prayer. I don't like key words spelled incorrectly.You said you were an evangelist in the military thread and you didn't say you were asking what churches were teaching.If you want to know what churches are teaching; why don't you be more direct and ask what churches are teaching, instead of go about it in a more indirect way as though you were asking as a skeptic or new believer.Questioning truthfulness is not being hostile.
 

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I asked you to use the correct word-Hallowed be Thy Name in the Lord's prayer. I don't like key words spelled incorrectly.You said you were an evangelist in the military thread and you didn't say you were asking what churches were teaching.If you want to know what churches are teaching; why don't you be more direct and ask what churches are teaching, instead of go about it in a more indirect way as though you were asking as a skeptic or new believer.Questioning truthfulness is not being hostile.
Thank you for your correction of my spelling.I am sorry to dissapoint you but I have my own way of reach out to people.And again, I am not going to discuss with people who have such a hostile tone to whom they are discoursing.
 

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I am only asking if they know what the churches are teaching thir congregaion about this prayer.I know from my experience, not too many know what is all about.
As I told you faith1 we are not associated with any particular church we are Bible students/teachers we study Gods word in his book. We use the King James Version and a Srongs concordance that converts each word to its Hebrew/greek root word. We would have no way of knowing what all the churches are teaching unless it is posted we are interested in what God says not what men say. If you want to tell us what they are teaching and what you think its about thats fine.
 

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Thank you for your correction of my spelling.I am sorry to dissapoint you but I have my own way of reach out to people.And again, I am not going to discuss with people who have such a hostile tone to whom they are discoursing.
Don't think of me as hostile, think of me as questioning. I have a different picture in my mind when I think of an evangelist.Someone that isn't easily offended. If they were, they would be in the wrong line of work.Someone that doesn't spell key words in the Lord's prayer so wrong as to render a different meaning then intended.I could go on but I'll just leave it at that.Questioning, that's my way.
 

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He was teaching us how to pray and we can be tempted. The Lord's real prayer is in John 17.
PRAISE GOD!! MOST PEOPLE CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION CORRECTLY!!
 

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Joyful said:
Our father who art in heavenhollowed be Thy nameThy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven...What is going to happen to earth when God's kingdom starts?How about heaven?
Here's what St. Augustine (A.D. 354-430) had to say regarding the Our Father prayer:

“Thy kingdom come.” Come it surely will, whether we ask or no. Indeed, God hath an eternal kingdom. For when did He not reign? When did He begin to reign? For His kingdom hath no beginning, neither shall it have any end. But that ye may know that in this prayer also we pray for ourselves and not for God (for we do not say “Thy kingdom come” as though we were asking that God may reign), we shall be ourselves His kingdom if, believing in Him, we make progress in this faith. All the faithful, redeemed by the blood of His only Son, will be His kingdom. And this His kingdom will come when the resurrection of the dead shall have taken place; for then He will come Himself. And when the dead are arisen He will divide them, as He Himself saith, “and He shall set some on the right hand and some on the left.” To those who shall be on the right hand He will say, “Come, ye blessed of My Father, receive the kingdom.” This is what we wish and pray for when we say, “Thy kingdom come,”—that it may come to us. For if we shall be reprobates that kingdom will come to others, but not to us. But if we shall be of that number who belong to the members of His only-begotten Son, His kingdom will come to us and will not tarry. For are there as many ages yet remaining as have already passed away?

“Thy will be done as in Heaven, so in earth.” The third thing we pray for is that His will may be done as in Heaven so in earth. And in this, too, we wish well for ourselves. For the will of God must necessarily be done. It is the will of God that the good should reign and the wicked be damned. Is it possible that this will should not be done? But what good do we wish ourselves when we say, “Thy will be done as in Heaven, so in earth?” Give ear. For this petition may be understood in many ways, and many things are to be in our thoughts in this petition when we pray God, “Thy will be done as in Heaven, so in earth.” As Thy angels offend Thee not, so may we also not offend Thee. Again, how is “Thy will be done as in Heaven, so in earth,” understood? All the holy patriarchs, all the prophets, all the apostles, all the spiritual are, as it were, God’s Heaven; and we in comparison of them are earth. “Thy will be done as in Heaven, so in earth”; as, in them, so in us also. Again, “Thy will be done as in Heaven, so in earth”; The Church of God is Heaven, His enemies are earth. So we wish well for our enemies, that they, too, may believe and become Christians, and so the will of God be done as in Heaven, so also in earth. Again, “Thy will be done as in Heaven, so in earth.” Our spirit is Heaven and the flesh earth; as our spirit is renewed by believing, so may our flesh be renewed by rising again, and “the will of God be done as in Heaven, so in earth.”

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