Benny Hinn Renounces Prosperity Gospel !!!! I Hope TBN follows SUIT!!

FHII · Nov 5, 2019

Couple thoughts on the subject:

1. The problem with the prosperity gospel is that there are real and true verses to support it. But prosperity in the form of health or wealth shouldn't be the reason for serving God or turning to him. Nor should they be the reason for giving. You will be blessed in one way or another, or maybe multiple ways. But you aren't purchasing an insurance plan or a financial plan. You're turning your life over to God because of love for him... And he will take care of your need.

2. Very interesting that Benny is doing this. I haven't clicked the link, but I will shortly. For all of his shenanigans, I have a small amount of respect for him due to him taking Oprah to task and then going after Joel Olsteen over comments they made.

Google Benny Hinn vs. Oprah... I believe it'll come up and you will truly see God talking through the mouth of a dumb ass! No offense to Benny in terms of that incident, because he had the guts and the fire to speak the truth!

Giuliano · Nov 5, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
I only went to one of his huge meetings. What you don't see on TV is the hour long praise and worship that happens before. He was much humbler than people give him credit for. If he makes a mistake doctrinally, he isn't to proud to admit it.

Why did it take so long for him to see this mistake?

FHII · Nov 5, 2019

Giuliano said:
Why did it take so long for him to see this mistake?

Could very well be he saw it long before, but took time to come to grips with it. Though it is a shame, I won't shun him for finally doing so.

If it is geniune.

Giuliano · Nov 5, 2019

FHII said:
Could very well be he saw it long before, but took time to come to grips with it. Though it is a shame, I won't shun him for finally doing so.

If it is geniune.

I find it timing curious. I think he was embarrassed by his nephew's book.

Benny Hinn’s nephew details tragic tale of how televangelist exploits followers in new book

Dan57 · Nov 6, 2019

That's good news for poor Christians who are struggling with health issues.. Preachers who sensationalize Christianity do more harm than good. Imagine how many people lost faith when prosperity eluded them or their health wasn't restored.

brakelite · Nov 6, 2019

Some people are posting in a fashion that suggests that God doesn't want Christians to prosper or be healthy. I think we are aware of the numerous texts that support a contrary perspective. God indeed wants us to prosper, and most assuredly does not want us to be sick. But don't expect God to bless you with either, (and I am not referring to those who are fleecing others for their own benefit), if what wealth you gather even honestly, is used merely for your own pleasure while ignoring the needy and suffering, and if you are living an unhealthy lifestyle, not exercising....poor diet...don't expect God to heal you of those maladies which by your own action you can overcome yourself.

brakelite · Nov 6, 2019

As for Benny Hinn. The prosperity gospel isn't the only thing he needs to repent of. The gross misrepresentation of the holy Spirit and the resulting character assassination of the Godhead as well as the confusion and deception among the people he's affected is damage whose depths shall never be known. And he's not alone. There is no doubt a swathe of deceived and/or like-minded people on his staff benefiting from the scams he had perpetrated in the name of Christ. The damage he and other liars have caused to God's kingdom are incalculable.

Soverign Grace · Nov 7, 2019

jshiii said:
Benny Hinn Renounces His Selling of God’s Blessings. Critics Want More.

Prosperity and Health Gospel is not Biblical!

I'm glad to hear that - maybe others will follow suit, but it seems more will crop up to take their place. I flipped on Christian TV yesterday and some woman preacher was asking for donations and trying to convince listeners that to be blessed they needed to give (to her). These are the same type of charlatans that misled me early on. I believe they're going to be sorely judged. I hate seeing it because of the false view of God that they put out and how they divest people of hard-earned money. Donating to God's work is quite different than what they're doing. New Christians lack discernment. I don't know why God allowed me to be misled but I assume He had a purpose. They were very hard days, which is why I loathe prosperity/ false teachers.

Josho · Nov 7, 2019

Let's say something positive, he certainly has a Christian healing ministry without a doubt and I remember that from when I was a little kid, watching him on TV and people getting healed.

I think it's also worth mentioning the devil also does try to wreck those with powerful ministries, as he sees it as a threat to more coming to Jesus, or more that are already Christians coming closer to Jesus.

And I believe God does bless His people, and people understandably like Benny Hinn have massive expenses for their ministry, and even more because he is televised, and Tele-evangelism is a very important ministry, as it helps those unable to attend a Church, to be able to watch a Church service from where-ever they are and hear the good news. And also there has also been cases of prisoners giving their lives to Jesus from watching Christian TV in prison, I hope they don't take that out of the prisons if they haven't already. Christian TV is a blessing too very many.

I think we gotta understand the costs of Christian TV are in the millions, but the Salvations as a result of Christian TV are also in the millions.

But when it comes to saying the Holy Spirit is telling 1000 of you to give $1000 today. Something else is happening and I am glad he repented for that.

And preachers earning multi-million dollar salaries, they should be giving a large amount of that to the poor, or using it to travel and preach to those who need it, and they should come to small communities and little country towns too, and not just do the main cities.

But Benny Hinn repented, so now what? We should leave that behind in the "past"

And instead of judge, we should pray for those like Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Jerry Savelle, Creflo Dollar, Jimmy Swaggart, etc. Etc. that they may be led and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, and be protected from temptations and evil.

Giuliano · Nov 7, 2019

Josho said:
Let's say something positive, he certainly has a Christian healing ministry without a doubt and I remember that from when I was a little kid, watching him on TV and people getting healed.

I have my doubts.

Benny Hinn - Wikipedia

In April 2001, HBO aired a documentary entitled A Question of Miracles that focused on Hinn and a well-documented fellow Word-of-Faith German minister based in Africa, Reinhard Bonnke. Both Hinn and Bonnke offered full access to their events to the documentary crew, and the documentary team followed seven cases of "miracle healings" from Hinn's crusade over the next year. The film's director, Antony Thomas, told CNN's Kyra Phillips that they did not find any cases where people were actually healed by Hinn. Thomas said in a New York Times interview that "If I had seen miracles [from Hinn's ministry], I would have been happy to trumpet it... but in retrospect, I think they do more damage to Christianity than the most committed atheist."

In November 2004, the CBC Television show The Fifth Estate did a special titled "Do You Believe in Miracles" on the apparent transgressions committed by Benny Hinn's ministry.

With the aid of hidden cameras and crusade witnesses, the producers of the show demonstrated Hinn's apparent misappropriation of funds, his fabrication of the truth, and the way in which his staff chose crusade audience members to come on stage to proclaim their miracle healings. In particular, the investigation highlighted the fact that the most desperate miracle seekers who attend a Hinn crusade—the quadriplegics, the brain-damaged, virtually anyone with a visibly obvious physical condition—are never allowed up on stage; those who attempt to get in the line of possible healings are intercepted and directed to return to their seats.

At one Canadian service, hidden cameras showed a mother who was carrying her muscular dystrophy-afflicted daughter, Grace, being stopped by two screeners when they attempted to get into the line for a possible blessing from Hinn. The screeners asked the mother if Grace had been healed, and when the mother replied in the negative, they were told to return to their seats; the pair got out of line, but Grace, wanting "Pastor Benny to pray for [her]," asked her mother to support her as she tried to walk as a show of "her faith in action," according to the mother. After several unsuccessful attempts at walking, the pair left the arena in tears, both mother and daughter visibly upset at being turned aside and crying as they explained to the undercover reporters that all Grace had wanted was for Hinn to pray for her, but the staffers rushed them out of the line when they found out Grace had not been healed. A week later at a service in Toronto, Baptist evangelist Justin Peters, who wrote his Masters in Divinity thesis on Benny Hinn and has attended numerous Hinn crusades since 2000 as part of his research for his thesis and for a seminar he developed about the Word of Faith movement entitled A Call for Discernment, also demonstrated to the hidden cameras that "people who look like me"—Peters has cerebral palsy, walks with arm-crutches, and is obviously and visibly disabled—"are never allowed on stage [...] it's always somebody who has some disability or disease that cannot be readily seen." Like Grace and her mother, Peters was quickly intercepted as he came out of the wheelchair section (there is one at every crusade, situated at the back of the audience, far away from the stage, and never filmed for Hinn's TV show) in an attempt to join the line of those waiting to go onstage, and was told to take a seat.

aspen · Nov 8, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
hey Aspen, how'ya? How come others can apparently post on your profile page but not me?
Hope you are good

not sure. I do not have you blocked or anything

Soverign Grace · Nov 8, 2019

Giuliano said:
I have my doubts.

Benny Hinn - Wikipedia

In April 2001, HBO aired a documentary entitled A Question of Miracles that focused on Hinn and a well-documented fellow Word-of-Faith German minister based in Africa, Reinhard Bonnke. Both Hinn and

Giuliano said:

I have my doubts.

Benny Hinn - Wikipedia

In April 2001, HBO aired a documentary entitled A Question of Miracles that focused on Hinn and a well-documented fellow Word-of-Faith German minister based in Africa, Reinhard Bonnke. Both Hinn and Bonnke offered full access to their events to the documentary crew, and the documentary team followed seven cases of "miracle healings" from Hinn's crusade over the next year. The film's director, Antony Thomas, told CNN's Kyra Phillips that they did not find any cases where people were actually healed by Hinn. Thomas said in a New York Times interview that "If I had seen miracles [from Hinn's ministry], I would have been happy to trumpet it... but in retrospect, I think they do more damage to Christianity than the most committed atheist."

In November 2004, the CBC Television show The Fifth Estate did a special titled "Do You Believe in Miracles" on the apparent transgressions committed by Benny Hinn's ministry.

With the aid of hidden cameras and crusade witnesses, the producers of the show demonstrated Hinn's apparent misappropriation of funds, his fabrication of the truth, and the way in which his staff chose crusade audience members to come on stage to proclaim their miracle healings. In particular, the investigation highlighted the fact that the most desperate miracle seekers who attend a Hinn crusade—the quadriplegics, the brain-damaged, virtually anyone with a visibly obvious physical condition—are never allowed up on stage; those who attempt to get in the line of possible healings are intercepted and directed to return to their seats.

At one Canadian service, hidden cameras showed a mother who was carrying her muscular dystrophy-afflicted daughter, Grace, being stopped by two screeners when they attempted to get into the line for a possible blessing from Hinn. The screeners asked the mother if Grace had been healed, and when the mother replied in the negative, they were told to return to their seats; the pair got out of line, but Grace, wanting "Pastor Benny to pray for [her]," asked her mother to support her as she tried to walk as a show of "her faith in action," according to the mother. After several unsuccessful attempts at walking, the pair left the arena in tears, both mother and daughter visibly upset at being turned aside and crying as they explained to the undercover reporters that all Grace had wanted was for Hinn to pray for her, but the staffers rushed them out of the line when they found out Grace had not been healed. A week later at a service in Toronto, Baptist evangelist Justin Peters, who wrote his Masters in Divinity thesis on Benny Hinn and has attended numerous Hinn crusades since 2000 as part of his research for his thesis and for a seminar he developed about the Word of Faith movement entitled A Call for Discernment, also demonstrated to the hidden cameras that "people who look like me"—Peters has cerebral palsy, walks with arm-crutches, and is obviously and visibly disabled—"are never allowed on stage [...] it's always somebody who has some disability or disease that cannot be readily seen." Like Grace and her mother, Peters was quickly intercepted as he came out of the wheelchair section (there is one at every crusade, situated at the back of the audience, far away from the stage, and never filmed for Hinn's TV show) in an attempt to join the line of those waiting to go onstage, and was told to take a seat.

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Bonnke offered full access to their events to the documentary crew, and the documentary team followed seven cases of "miracle healings" from Hinn's crusade over the next year. The film's director, Antony Thomas, told CNN's Kyra Phillips that they did not find any cases where people were actually healed by Hinn. Thomas said in a New York Times interview that "If I had seen miracles [from Hinn's ministry], I would have been happy to trumpet it... but in retrospect, I think they do more damage to Christianity than the most committed atheist."

In November 2004, the CBC Television show The Fifth Estate did a special titled "Do You Believe in Miracles" on the apparent transgressions committed by Benny Hinn's ministry.

With the aid of hidden cameras and crusade witnesses, the producers of the show demonstrated Hinn's apparent misappropriation of funds, his fabrication of the truth, and the way in which his staff chose crusade audience members to come on stage to proclaim their miracle healings. In particular, the investigation highlighted the fact that the most desperate miracle seekers who attend a Hinn crusade—the quadriplegics, the brain-damaged, virtually anyone with a visibly obvious physical condition—are never allowed up on stage; those who attempt to get in the line of possible healings are intercepted and directed to return to their seats.

At one Canadian service, hidden cameras showed a mother who was carrying her muscular dystrophy-afflicted daughter, Grace, being stopped by two screeners when they attempted to get into the line for a possible blessing from Hinn. The screeners asked the mother if Grace had been healed, and when the mother replied in the negative, they were told to return to their seats; the pair got out of line, but Grace, wanting "Pastor Benny to pray for [her]," asked her mother to support her as she tried to walk as a show of "her faith in action," according to the mother. After several unsuccessful attempts at walking, the pair left the arena in tears, both mother and daughter visibly upset at being turned aside and crying as they explained to the undercover reporters that all Grace had wanted was for Hinn to pray for her, but the staffers rushed them out of the line when they found out Grace had not been healed. A week later at a service in Toronto, Baptist evangelist Justin Peters, who wrote his Masters in Divinity thesis on Benny Hinn and has attended numerous Hinn crusades since 2000 as part of his research for his thesis and for a seminar he developed about the Word of Faith movement entitled A Call for Discernment, also demonstrated to the hidden cameras that "people who look like me"—Peters has cerebral palsy, walks with arm-crutches, and is obviously and visibly disabled—"are never allowed on stage [...] it's always somebody who has some disability or disease that cannot be readily seen." Like Grace and her mother, Peters was quickly intercepted as he came out of the wheelchair section (there is one at every crusade, situated at the back of the audience, far away from the stage, and never filmed for Hinn's TV show) in an attempt to join the line of those waiting to go onstage, and was told to take a seat.

I think they do a lot of damage - they did to me, until I got wise to them. Having attended a very corrupt church one time, run by a corrupt family, I have seen the inner workings of some "ministries" and they're as corrupt as a politicians office and they end up turning people away from God and Christianity. Thank God we only supported them for a short time. Unfortunately some people send a lot of money to such ministries. One woman was interviewed whose cancer-stricken mother, believing in their false prosperity gospel, sent a lot of money to Kenneth Copeland...and like the good Christian he is, he just took and took. The interviewer said he had an airplane landing strip built next to his house.

I wish the true pastors would warn young believers away from the false - they're popping up everywhere now, possibly because they've learned there's a lot of money in it. We just need to look at Joel Osteen's mansion, and Cresol Dollar's private jet.

Giuliano · Nov 8, 2019

Soverign Grace said:
I think they do a lot of damage - they did to me, until I got wise to them. Having attended a very corrupt church one time, run by a corrupt family, I have seen the inner workings of some "ministries" and they're as corrupt as a politicians office and they end up turning people away from God and Christianity. Thank God we only supported them for a short time. Unfortunately some people send a lot of money to such ministries. One woman was interviewed whose cancer-stricken mother, believing in their false prosperity gospel, sent a lot of money to Kenneth Copeland...and like the good Christian he is, he just took and took. The interviewer said he had an airplane landing strip built next to his house.

I wish the true pastors would warn young believers away from the false - they're popping up everywhere now, possibly because they've learned there's a lot of money in it. We just need to look at Joel Osteen's mansion, and Cresol Dollar's private jet.

It is tragic the harm some of these frauds do.

I grew up in a very poor area of Pennsylvania; and one of our neighbors had a very sick daughter that the doctors couldn't do much for. They didn't have much money; but they got enough together to make a trip to one of these healers. I forget now who it was, I think maybe it was Oral Roberts. They weren't even allowed close to the so-called healer. They sat and sat and sat. It broke my heart how they got their hopes up only to have nothing happen after they sacrificed to get the money to make the trip.

bbyrd009 · Nov 8, 2019

aspen said:
not sure. I do not have you blocked or anything

ah well you should prolly have done that already i guess lol, but hmm

Prayer Warrior · Nov 8, 2019

Giuliano said:
It is tragic the harm some of these frauds do.

I grew up in a very poor area of Pennsylvania; and one of our neighbors had a very sick daughter that the doctors couldn't do much for. They didn't have much money; but they got enough together to make a trip to one of these healers. I forget now who it was, I think maybe it was Oral Roberts. They weren't even allowed close to the so-called healer. They sat and sat and sat. It broke my heart how they got their hopes up only to have nothing happen after they sacrificed to get the money to make the trip.

While I don't approve of some of the stuff he has pulled, I don't think he is wholly huckster. I believe God gave him the gift of healing, and he has used this gift to heal. (BTW, I don't believe healers get to choose who is healed and who is not.)

Having said this, I also believe that he has glorified himself at times instead of God who is the source of the gift. This is the flesh. I hope that he recognizes this, but we are ALL susceptible to falling prey to the flesh when we don't reckon it as crucified....

I've often thought that success and fame are much harder for a Christian to deal with than adversity. I'm amazed that God can use any famous person, but after all, He is God!
.

Giuliano · Nov 8, 2019

Prayer Warrior said:
While I don't approve of some of the stuff he has pulled, I don't think he is wholly huckster. I believe God gave him the gift of healing, and he has used this gift to heal. (BTW, I don't believe healers get to choose who is healed and who is not.)

Having said this, I also believe that he has glorified himself at times instead of God who is the source of the gift. This is the flesh. I hope that he recognizes this, but we are ALL susceptible to falling prey to the flesh when we don't reckon it as crucified....

I've often thought that success and fame are much harder for a Christian to deal with than adversity. I'm amazed that God can use any famous person, but after all, He is God!
.

From what I read at Wikipedia, I don't know if he really can heal anyone. Some people can be healed by suggestion or positive thinking; and then too, having the gift of healing wouldn't mean he's a man of God. I wouldn't to judge him one way or another; but I know I don't trust him.

Prayer Warrior · Nov 8, 2019

Giuliano said:
From what I read at Wikipedia, I don't know if he really can heal anyone. Some people can be healed by suggestion or positive thinking; and then too, having the gift of healing wouldn't mean he's a man of God. I wouldn't to judge him one way or another; but I know I don't trust him.

Perhaps you should find accounts of people who were healed at these crusades rather than relying on an unreliable source. I have heard accounts given by people who were healed.

Why is it so hard to believe that as Christians, we are all mixed bags--good and bad....Two natures in one person. Sometimes God uses us in miraculous ways, and sometimes, we mess up miserably.

Giuliano · Nov 8, 2019

Prayer Warrior said:
Perhaps you should find accounts of people who were healed at these crusades rather than relying on an unreliable source. I have heard accounts given by people who were healed.

Why is it so hard to believe that as Christians, we are all mixed bags--good and bad....Two natures in one person. Sometimes God uses us in miraculous ways, and sometimes, we mess up miserably.

Why do you say Wikipedia is unreliable? Anyone can join and edit the articles. They just need to have reliable sources.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Prayer Warrior · Nov 8, 2019

Giuliano said:
Why do you say Wikipedia is unreliable? Anyone can join and edit the articles. They just need to have reliable sources.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Wikipedia is not entirely reliable BECAUSE anyone and everyone can contribute, even people who don't know what they're talking about. This is not to say that I think everything on Wikipedia is unreliable, but we have to consider the source.

Like I said, there are people who have been healed at his crusades. I've heard a few of their testimonies. Is this reported in the article?

As far as serving 2 masters, you're preaching to the choir, honey.

Here's another good one:

1 Timothy 6:9--But those who want to be rich fall into temptation, a trap, and many foolish and harmful desires, which plunge people into ruin and destruction.

It's better to store up eternal treasures in heaven than temporary treasures here! We could probably all stand to keep this in mind. I know that I need to.

Soverign Grace · Nov 9, 2019

Giuliano said:
It is tragic the harm some of these frauds do.

I grew up in a very poor area of Pennsylvania; and one of our neighbors had a very sick daughter that the doctors couldn't do much for. They didn't have much money; but they got enough together to make a trip to one of these healers. I forget now who it was, I think maybe it was Oral Roberts. They weren't even allowed close to the so-called healer. They sat and sat and sat. It broke my heart how they got their hopes up only to have nothing happen after they sacrificed to get the money to make the trip.

They prey on desperate people - which is really despicable. That they do it in the Name of God is what is really evil. I was so mixed up about God early on because of false ministers that I can't stand to hear them now on TV. We even saw lies in a church we attended. The pastor tried to act "cool" and had specific cronies in the church. The pastor and his cronies flew to some far off island to "evangelize." It was ridiculous because the church was in a bad city and they could have walked out the front door of the church to evangelize. The church broke up.

It's usually young believers that are manipulated; the older believers can usually recognize lies.

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