The Work of The Holy Spirit
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Hebrews 9:27 King James Version (KJV)
Revelation 20
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Psalm 6:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
when we die we enter into a eternal state. eternal life or eternal hell.
Psalm 88:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand.
And don't know Gehinnom and Paradise are.
Psalm 6:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
when we die we enter into a eternal state. eternal life or eternal hell.
Psalm 88:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand.[/quote]
Some fell asleep in the Old Testament era. This is nothing new.
Are you saying that those who have eternal life exist in a state where they have no remembrance of God?
read your Bible there is NO NONE SALVATION AFTER DEATH . where you got this myth from i have no idea
101G
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don't mean to interrupt your conversation but where is that in the bible. I know there is not remembance, for the dead knows nothing. but there is no "SALVATION" after death? please post scripture for that.
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For some of the "walking dead", there is also no remembrance of God. What do the "walking dead" know?
Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
john 3:3 you cant be born again if YOUR DEAD ! one good thing on internet forums you be the incredible hulk. you can pretend to be a expert theologian . if you 2 are serious on your silly question can we be saved after death . which the answer is NO , but if you want to cling to these false teaching .be it far from me to try to change your mind...... other than the false teaching of purgatory there is no 2nd chance of salvation . it is written why seek ye the living among the dead.. your theology needs embalmed it stinks
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“daysman” lexicon has “umpire” ...mediator. Job 9:32-35 For he is not a man(made out of clay), as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. [33] Neither is there any daysman (mediator)betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us (man and God)both. [34] Let him take his rod away from me, and let not his fear terrify me: [35] Then would I speak, and not fear him; but it is not so with me.
—2 Corinthians 5:10-11 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. [11] Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
I’m sorry but lost the reason for discussion over translation as a mediator formed out of the clay was asked for. Daysman. Mediator. Umpire. Elihu words of ...as you wanted an umpire...mediator...
Job 38:10-13 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, [11] And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed? [12] Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; [13] That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
Luke 1:78-80 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, [79] To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. [80] And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel.
101G
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dead in sins YES, so why then God send A. Baptism, and B. his son? ........
if you don't know see Romans 14:7-9.now, you can be that incredible hulk that shows the scriptures that says there is no salvation after death. scripture please...
PICJAG
lol you brush up on judgement mainly the white throe judgement .you keep clinging to your straw man belief . maybe you can find more in this forum to tickle your earsdead in sins YES, so why then God send A. Baptism, and B. his son? ........
now, you can be that incredible hulk that shows the scriptures that says there is no salvation after death. scripture please...
PICJAG
101G
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No need Christ has already started his which we're in. now can you respond to post #153?
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PS I'm headding to church, but we can pick this up latter.
if your heading to church and holding to the belief you can b saved after you die physically all brain activity stops completely. i would hope your church does not teach this . this is far as i will continue after we die then the judgment. there is no 2nd chance salvation after death . if you hold to that your either mormon or catholic .
john 3:16-17 baptism follows salvation actually its Christ then baptism.. you cant baptize a dead body < sigh some are still dead in sin and baptized>
That is no answer. Still waiting then for Scripture that says people are saved before they die.
101G
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well before we get to the white throne Judgment, one need to backup to Pentecost, and the OUT POURING of the Spirit which is LIFE, for the Lord Jesus spoke it, John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
I'm neither, second, I believe in the resurrection, just as the OT saints did also, Job 19:25-27 "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:" 26 "And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:" (ezra you might want to read that again). 27 "Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me."
PRAISE our Saviour the LORD JESUS.
LIFE ..... AFTER DEATH. now NT, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:" that's what Job KNEW, and seen. BINGO, all you outside of Christ, Daniel states it best, Daniel 12:2 "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." PICJAG.
your taking scriptures that say even though we die yet shall we live--eternal life / let me make this VERY CLEAR when discussing Bible scriptures.i dont play head games...well before we get to the white throne Judgment, one need to backup to Pentecost, and the OUT POURING of the Spirit which is LIFE, for the Lord Jesus spoke it, John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
I'm neither, second, I believe in the resurrection, just as the OT saints did also, Job 19:25-27 "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:" 26 "And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:" (ezra you might want to read that again). 27 "Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me."
PRAISE our Saviour the LORD JESUS.
PICJAG.
a lost person who dis without Christ has absolutely no hope for eternal life after they die . so if you think your playing mind games you can find another poster. i will gladly block. john 11: 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me will live, even though he dies. 26 And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”… this is a promise for those who are truly saved before they die ==ETERNAL LIFE leave this world with out being saved===ETERNAL DAMNATION . so i suggest you make your point very clear . if you believe that there is eternal life for those who die without Christ you are wrong...Similar threads
