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This will occur in the world. It is galling to say the least, but it is going to occur. I just trust God in it. He sees it all. Whether I see a righteous judgment against is immaterial. I know God will deal with it in His time.

Donald Grey Barnhouse once gave this illustration. I don't have the exact quote, so it is from memory. I can give the gist of it though. A farmer had a crop that would be harvested in October. He was a Christian and didn't work on Sundays, and instead went to church. His neighbor was a farmer with the same crop, and was not a Christian and worked all day on Sunday. The Christian farmers crop was devastated somehow and the non-believing neighbors was not. Why he asked the pastor. The Pastor simply said God doesn't settle all his accounts in October.

I have said before what was told me once. Never begrudge the non-believer any thing he gets in this life. It is the only heaven he is ever going to know. By the same token, never feel to sorry for the believer for the suffering he goes through in this life. It is the only hell he is ever going to know.

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My husband has that same faith in that specific area - I'm unsure exactly why I don't have faith in that area. Sometimes I do but I hate to see injustice - and I think that comes from God since we're told He's a God of justice. I'm wondering if I'm missing something somewhere.

That's a good quote.
 

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Oh yes, right after the initial hurt, I cannot bring myself to forgive...I pray for Him to soften my heart so as to allow me to truly forgive without reservation. I just remember all the things He has forgiven me for. It is not an easy thing to do, at first. The pain and betrayal is so very shocking and raw that we cry and just want to hurt that person or persons yet, we know it is wrong to think that way...we are still human and He will help us to forgive. I have 3 on my list that I pray to forgive each day...and it IS getting easier! Not there fully, yet but I know one day I will be...He is so faithful!

Some offenses are more easily forgiven than others.
 
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My husband has that same faith in that specific area - I'm unsure exactly why I don't have faith in that area. Sometimes I do but I hate to see injustice - and I think that comes from God since we're told He's a God of justice. I'm wondering if I'm missing something somewhere.

That's a good quote.

I don't want to paint the picture that I am victorious in this always. Just like you, when it occurs, I go through the motions of anger, then question why God allows it, and sometimes get mad at God for it. It is not you missing anything. It's a normal reaction.

Note the Psalmist in (Psalm 73:2-20). He asks these same questions. But then after awhile, he comes back to set his eyes upon God only. (73:17) "Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end."

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All throughout the Bible we're told that God is a God of Justice yet I look around and see very little of it.

God IS JUST.
Men are IMPATIENT.
Men want a Spiritual God to put before their Natural Eyes, a mans idea of satisfaction of what the man believes is JUST.

IF we Mindfuly think; only "good" things can get Gods WILL accomplished....(because that is Logical)...right?

Then What? (What would have been the case)???

Jesus came to Earth, Praised God, Obeyed God, Spoke the Gospel, participated in Jewish Important dates, performed miracles...

AND...
Was accused of having a devil;
Was spit on;
Was mocked;
Was stripped of his clothes;
Was beaten beyond recognition;
Was impaled in his hands and feet;
Was hung on a cross;
Was pierced;

AND said;
Father Forgive them...
AND said;
Father YOUR WILL be done.

What do others do when Scripture is crystal clear and yet we see the exact opposite happen?

God has Promised; Ask and ye SHALL Receive, Yet ... I find Nothing in Scripture that says... Ask and ye SHALL Receive, WHEN "WE" determine "WHEN" "WE" should Receive what we are asking for.

What Scripture has taught us IS:
The Whole world is Corrupt. And one by one, SOME men are Choosing to be Converted and MADE WHOLLY WHOLE and HOLY.
And SOME men find themselves GAINING, wealth, power, status, by and through Deception and Wickedness.

This World is Still overflowing with Corruption; Lying, Cheating, Deception, Wickedness, Injustice....HOWEVER...

The Lord has GIVEN US who ARE Converted, Something UNIQUE TO a Converted man...
The Lords COMFORT, to sooth us THROUGH "ANY" Trial or Burden we face.

And AGAIN...Patience....The Promise...
WE SHALL Receive;

Personally; I trust God knows my needs. And I choose to spend more time Thanking God for what I do have, then wondering and fretting about crooked judges, stupid drivers, mail carriers that can't read, pot holes, TV adds For drugs while nearly half of those incarcerated is for Taking drugs....etc, etc.

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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I don't want to paint the picture that I am victorious in this always. Just like you, when it occurs, I go through the motions of anger, then question why God allows it, and sometimes get mad at God for it. It is not you missing anything. It's a normal reaction.

Note the Psalmist in (Psalm 73:2-20). He asks these same questions. But then after awhile, he comes back to set his eyes upon God only. (73:17) "Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end."

Stranger

Well I'm glad you admit it. I go through the same sequence: anger, question why God allows it, and sometimes get hopping mad at God.

I know about Psalm 73 - it has helped to carry me at times but sometimes it fails to comfort. That's why I wondered if I'm missing something somewhere. I try to look at things that God must have a reason for it. Still I wonder why He put the desire for justice within our hearts and yet we're forced to live without it at times. I was thinking about it and I recalled another verse out of Pslams:
Psalm 119:71 King James Version (KJV)
71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.

And I wondered if maybe this was in God's plan to draw me to dig deep into the Scriptures again regarding justice. The times in my life that I seemed to learn the most were times of hardship when I sought God for answers. Maybe now is such a time.

(A Psalm of Asaph.) Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.

3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.

5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.

6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.

7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.

8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.

9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.

10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.

11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?

12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.

14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.

15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.

16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;

17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.

18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.

19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.

21 Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.

22 So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.

23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand.

24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me toglory.

25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth thatI desire beside thee.

26 My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.

27 For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whoring from thee.

28 But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord GOD, that I may declare all thy works.
 

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God IS JUST.
Men are IMPATIENT.
Men want a Spiritual God to put before their Natural Eyes, a mans idea of satisfaction of what the man believes is JUST.

IF we Mindfuly think; only "good" things can get Gods WILL accomplished....(because that is Logical)...right?

Then What? (What would have been the case)???

Jesus came to Earth, Praised God, Obeyed God, Spoke the Gospel, participated in Jewish Important dates, performed miracles...

AND...
Was accused of having a devil;
Was spit on;
Was mocked;
Was stripped of his clothes;
Was beaten beyond recognition;
Was impaled in his hands and feet;
Was hung on a cross;
Was pierced;

AND said;
Father Forgive them...
AND said;
Father YOUR WILL be done.



God has Promised; Ask and ye SHALL Receive, Yet ... I find Nothing in Scripture that says... Ask and ye SHALL Receive, WHEN "WE" determine "WHEN" "WE" should Receive what we are asking for.

What Scripture has taught us IS:
The Whole world is Corrupt. And one by one, SOME men are Choosing to be Converted and MADE WHOLLY WHOLE and HOLY.
And SOME men find themselves GAINING, wealth, power, status, by and through Deception and Wickedness.

This World is Still overflowing with Corruption; Lying, Cheating, Deception, Wickedness, Injustice....HOWEVER...

The Lord has GIVEN US who ARE Converted, Something UNIQUE TO a Converted man...
The Lords COMFORT, to sooth us THROUGH "ANY" Trial or Burden we face.

And AGAIN...Patience....The Promise...
WE SHALL Receive;

Personally; I trust God knows my needs. And I choose to spend more time Thanking God for what I do have, then wondering and fretting about crooked judges, stupid drivers, mail carriers that can't read, pot holes, TV adds For drugs while nearly half of those incarcerated is for Taking drugs....etc, etc.

Glory to God,
Taken

I badly needed that little bit of humor this morning: "stupid drivers, mail carriers that can't read..."
 
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Well I'm glad you admit it. I go through the same sequence: anger, question why God allows it, and sometimes get hopping mad at God.

I know about Psalm 73 - it has helped to carry me at times but sometimes it fails to comfort. That's why I wondered if I'm missing something somewhere. I try to look at things that God must have a reason for it. Still I wonder why He put the desire for justice within our hearts and yet we're forced to live without it at times. I was thinking about it and I recalled another verse out of Pslams:
Psalm 119:71 King James Version (KJV)
71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.

And I wondered if maybe this was in God's plan to draw me to dig deep into the Scriptures again regarding justice. The times in my life that I seemed to learn the most were times of hardship when I sought God for answers. Maybe now is such a time.

(A Psalm of Asaph.) Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.

3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.

5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.

6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.

7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.

8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.

9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.

10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.

11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?

12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.

14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.

15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.

16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;

17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.

18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.

19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.

21 Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.

22 So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.

23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand.

24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me toglory.

25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth thatI desire beside thee.

26 My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.

27 For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whoring from thee.

28 But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord GOD, that I may declare all thy works.


Regarding justice from God, I always have to look at Christ. Was it just that He was crucified? Certainly not from man's point of view. He was not guilty. And even a murderer was set free in order to kill Him. No justice there. Even though it was the plan of God, was that not 'injustice' at the highest level.

Yet Christ had to endure it. Keep His mouth closed though He even saw His Spiritual enemies behind it having their day at this great injustice. (Ps.22) At the same time He knew there was coming His day. (Is. 63:1-6) He just must wait.

Justness is in our hearts because it is also in God's heart. He must be just. There is no other way. And it took this injustice act upon Christ to make God just in getting you and I to Heaven. (Rom. 3:26) God couldn't just love us into Heaven. He must be just in getting us there.

It is my opinion and I am convinced of it, that no one has ever suffered as much as God the Father and Son did when Christ was crucified. In so doing we are declared just, and God is just in getting us to Heaven.

I think God wants us to experience injustice in this world. And it isn't pleasant.

Stranger
 

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My husband has that same faith in that specific area - I'm unsure exactly why I don't have faith in that area. Sometimes I do but I hate to see injustice - and I think that comes from God since we're told He's a God of justice. I'm wondering if I'm missing something somewhere.

That's a good quote.
Yes, even as @Stranger has said with regard to the suffering and death of Jesus consider also what is written in the OT here:

Most of us remember or at least have heard of Ahab, certainly one of the worst of the kings of Samaria [the nation of the 10 northern tribes of Israel] described in the OT but consider in particular the situation with Naboth a man who suffered because he did the right thing due to the covetousness of Ahab and the callous actions of Jezebel, Ahab's wife:

"And it came to pass after these things, that Naboth the Jezreelite had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the palace of Ahab king of Samaria.
And Ahab spake unto Naboth, saying, Give me thy vineyard, that I may have it for a garden of herbs, because it is near unto my house: and I will give thee for it a better vineyard than it; or, if it seem good to thee, I will give thee the worth of it in money.
And Naboth said to Ahab, The LORD forbid it me, that I should give the inheritance of my fathers unto thee.
And Ahab came into his house heavy and displeased because of the word which Naboth the Jezreelite had spoken to him: for he had said, I will not give thee the inheritance of my fathers. And he laid him down upon his bed, and turned away his face, and would eat no bread.
And he said unto her, Because I spake unto Naboth the Jezreelite, and said unto him, Give me thy vineyard for money; or else, if it please thee, I will give thee another vineyard for it: and he answered, I will not give thee my vineyard.
And Jezebel his wife said unto him, Dost thou now govern the kingdom of Israel? arise, and eat bread, and let thine heart be merry: I will give thee the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite.
So she wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth.
And she wrote in the letters, saying, Proclaim a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people:
And set two men, sons of Belial, before him, to bear witness against him, saying, Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him, that he may die." I Kings 21:1-10


And stone them they did using the law given to Moses through lies to legally kill him.

"At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death." Deut 17:6

Ahab when advised by his wife of the death of Naboth was quick to take possession of the his vineyard.

"And the word of the LORD came to Elijah the Tishbite, saying,
Arise, go down to meet Ahab king of Israel, which is in Samaria: behold, he is in the vineyard of Naboth, whither he is gone down to possess it.
And thou shalt speak unto him, saying, Thus saith the LORD, Hast thou killed, and also taken possession? And thou shalt speak unto him, saying, Thus saith the LORD, In the place where dogs licked the blood of Naboth shall dogs lick thy blood, even thine." I Kings 21:17-19


"And of Jezebel also spake the LORD, saying, The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel." I Kings 21:23

And in I Kings 22:38 we read the final result for Ahab according to Elijah's prophecy. And in II Kings 9:30-37 we find the fulfillment regarding Jezebel.

Ahab and Jezebel received their punishments, but what of Naboth? He simply wanted to keep onto his inheritance as was his right under the law given to Moses and another part of that same law was misused to take his life and his property.

As we see later with Jesus and with Stephen [Acts 7], in this life of flesh we may indeed suffer unjustly even though God is mindful of it. We should not expect in this life what we would according to what the flesh might call justice.
 
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Regarding justice from God, I always have to look at Christ. Was it just that He was crucified? Certainly not from man's point of view. He was not guilty. And even a murderer was set free in order to kill Him. No justice there. Even though it was the plan of God, was that not 'injustice' at the highest level.

Yet Christ had to endure it. Keep His mouth closed though He even saw His Spiritual enemies behind it having their day at this great injustice. (Ps.22) At the same time He knew there was coming His day. (Is. 63:1-6) He just must wait.

Justness is in our hearts because it is also in God's heart. He must be just. There is no other way. And it took this injustice act upon Christ to make God just in getting you and I to Heaven. (Rom. 3:26) God couldn't just love us into Heaven. He must be just in getting us there.

It is my opinion and I am convinced of it, that no one has ever suffered as much as God the Father and Son did when Christ was crucified. In so doing we are declared just, and God is just in getting us to Heaven.

I think God wants us to experience injustice in this world. And it isn't pleasant.

Stranger

I don't grasp why you think God wants us to experience injustice in this world? It stings like a serpent and sometimes the pain can be excruciating and last a lifetime. I'm trying to look beyond it for the Hand of God - what lesson/ purpose of His is in it. Otherwise it can be unbearable. I pray and am honest with God yet He continuously makes me look on injustice - which is why I often feel like Habakuk and identify with the verse about the blood of the saints crying out from beneath the altar. I'm not entirely certain what that verse means but that's what I believe so far as the understanding I've been given.
 

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Yes, even as @Stranger has said with regard to the suffering and death of Jesus consider also what is written in the OT here:

Most of us remember or at least have heard of Ahab, certainly one of the worst of the kings of Samaria [the nation of the 10 northern tribes of Israel] described in the OT but consider in particular the situation with Naboth a man who suffered because he did the right thing due to the covetousness of Ahab and the callous actions of Jezebel, Ahab's wife:

"And it came to pass after these things, that Naboth the Jezreelite had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the palace of Ahab king of Samaria.
And Ahab spake unto Naboth, saying, Give me thy vineyard, that I may have it for a garden of herbs, because it is near unto my house: and I will give thee for it a better vineyard than it; or, if it seem good to thee, I will give thee the worth of it in money.
And Naboth said to Ahab, The LORD forbid it me, that I should give the inheritance of my fathers unto thee.
And Ahab came into his house heavy and displeased because of the word which Naboth the Jezreelite had spoken to him: for he had said, I will not give thee the inheritance of my fathers. And he laid him down upon his bed, and turned away his face, and would eat no bread.
And he said unto her, Because I spake unto Naboth the Jezreelite, and said unto him, Give me thy vineyard for money; or else, if it please thee, I will give thee another vineyard for it: and he answered, I will not give thee my vineyard.
And Jezebel his wife said unto him, Dost thou now govern the kingdom of Israel? arise, and eat bread, and let thine heart be merry: I will give thee the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite.
So she wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth.
And she wrote in the letters, saying, Proclaim a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people:
And set two men, sons of Belial, before him, to bear witness against him, saying, Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him, that he may die." I Kings 21:1-10


And stone them they did using the law given to Moses through lies to legally kill him.

"At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death." Deut 17:6

Ahab when advised by his wife of the death of Naboth was quick to take possession of the his vineyard.

"And the word of the LORD came to Elijah the Tishbite, saying,
Arise, go down to meet Ahab king of Israel, which is in Samaria: behold, he is in the vineyard of Naboth, whither he is gone down to possess it.
And thou shalt speak unto him, saying, Thus saith the LORD, Hast thou killed, and also taken possession? And thou shalt speak unto him, saying, Thus saith the LORD, In the place where dogs licked the blood of Naboth shall dogs lick thy blood, even thine." I Kings 21:17-19


"And of Jezebel also spake the LORD, saying, The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel." I Kings 21:23

And in I Kings 22:38 we read the final result for Ahab according to Elijah's prophecy. And in II Kings 9:30-37 we find the fulfillment regarding Jezebel.

Ahab and Jezebel received their punishments, but what of Naboth? He simply wanted to keep onto his inheritance as was his right under the law given to Moses and another part of that same law was misused to take his life and his property.

As we see later with Jesus and with Stephen [Acts 7], in this life of flesh we may indeed suffer unjustly even though God is mindful of it. We should not expect in this life what we would according to the flesh call justice.

We know all the verses yet when injustice is smacking you in the face, there is little to comfort. I recall the worst, most evil thing ever done to me by someone I had trusted. I recall seeing them sitting there smug and self-satisfied while my whole world was reeling. It was surreal and yet I could see clearly for the first time how truly sick this individual was. She cut your throat and sat there blankly watching you bleed; a truly sick individual. I saw where another believer could commit evil as egregious as David killing Uriah by pretending to put him in battle so his actions of murder would be hidden. David was punished however - I have not seen the individual I knew punished. I would say that this person is truly dangerous. An enemy you can recognize; it's when one comes as a friend when the most evil is perpetrated because your defenses are down.

The individual was stone-hearted and selfish. She got so many government benefits yet if she saw an accident victim lying bleeding in the road she wouldn't stop to lend a hand. That's why government benefits are galling at times; unworthy people get them. She got free windows on her entire house, free heat, housing assistance, and numerous other benefits. Now we're struggling and she has an acre of ground, has her house paid off, and vacations all the time; yet she sucked off you and me and everyone else. Her kids followed in her footsteps and all of them are doing better financially than most people I know. On top of that she did very evil things to those she was jealous of. She indirectly caused someone's death...and walked free. I have prayed because she is dangerous and IMO should be locked up. What I've seen is that the most dangerous criminals are those on the outside of jail.
 

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I don't grasp why you think God wants us to experience injustice in this world? It stings like a serpent and sometimes the pain can be excruciating and last a lifetime
oh, only if you dwell on it i guess. Imo we are called to experience injustice without reacting as one in the world would in order to demonstrate what is really important. So while i dont agree with Stranger's conclusions, wherin it seems to me that picking up ones own cross is devalued--which is after all prolly what we are talking about?--imo he has a point there, as far as it goes.

one can do evil to a little kid, and gain a momentary advantage, but one will become known as that, while meanwhile the little kid has momentary hurt, realization/knowing (of the one), shrugged it off and moved on, right. As adults we are often baited specifically for the reaction, and when the reaction does not come, you heap burning coals on their head right
 
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yet when injustice is smacking you in the face, there is little to comfort. I recall the worst, most evil thing ever done to me by someone I had trusted. I recall seeing them sitting there smug and self-satisfied while my whole world was reeling. It was surreal and yet I could see clearly for the first time how truly sick this individual was. She cut your throat and sat there blankly watching you bleed; a truly sick individual. I saw where another believer could commit evil as egregious as David killing Uriah by pretending to put him in battle so his actions of murder would be hidden. David was punished however - I have not seen the individual I knew punished. I would say that this person is truly dangerous. An enemy you can recognize; it's when one comes as a friend when the most evil is perpetrated because your defenses are down.
so, i guess the signs were prolly there, just you would not see them, and if your world was reeling then there should be a lesson there maybe; caring too much about the wrong thing or whatever. Imo they are punished when we are not de-centered by their act, and it rolls off our backs? I have even been led into some um valleys of death like that, aware that i was getting set up for a "fall," and it was to...it was for them to learn something that i was the "sacrificial lamb" there.

And i could not have participated in the manner i did but it was about something i had once cared about, and most ppl care about, hence the anticipation of a strong reaction i guess, which having been allowed to um peep game or lol God hipping me up beforehand to "just let it play out, here's what will happen, and you dont really care about that anymore anyway, right?" kinda thing

"and if you do care so much, maybe examine that."
 

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thanks, ill check the lyrics, see if he means the same thing lol. Unanswered prayers are surely prayers not asked from the correct perspective, yeh? So iow an opp to change our minds where prayers are concerned. Easy to expect God to be santa claus imo
 
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We are in an un just world and are expected to live among them, and even pray for and bless our enemies. It has been several months now that I have been asking God to give me the power to forgive a certain person (a so called Christian at that) that did me very wrong. It's not here yet but, I will continue to pray for the gift of forgiveness for her.
Trials and tribs folks! He is molding and shaping us into the likeness of Christ. I was never a big "grudge holder" but this is a tough one for me yet...God knows I want to forgive. I did all I was supposed to do according to what the bible say's to do...go to the person, if they will not hear or repent (or return many stolen items!) then take it to the Church...I took it to the pastor and he could hardly care less :(
We need to strive to let these things go because it will give us ulcers!
@Soverign Grace , I know your story about the Church folk and the horrible things they did...them being "Christians" makes it even worse! We might never get to see the justice God will demand of them but, be assured...He will!
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I don't grasp why you think God wants us to experience injustice in this world? It stings like a serpent and sometimes the pain can be excruciating and last a lifetime. I'm trying to look beyond it for the Hand of God - what lesson/ purpose of His is in it. Otherwise it can be unbearable. I pray and am honest with God yet He continuously makes me look on injustice - which is why I often feel like Habakuk and identify with the verse about the blood of the saints crying out from beneath the altar. I'm not entirely certain what that verse means but that's what I believe so far as the understanding I've been given.

What else do you think we will experience in a kingdom ruled by satan? Yes it is painful and can last for a lifetime, even have eternal effects upon us. How? Because God uses these things to shape us. We experience the things Christ experienced.

Christians love to read and tell stories of the martyrs of Christianity. It is fine in a book. But when it comes home it is totally different. If persecution comes to the U.S. and it will, do you think it will be glorious for the believer? No. You will be killed as an evil person. It will be through lies, treachery, deceit, and dishonesty. You will be labeled an enemy of God and the state. Maybe you will be labeled an atheist as the first century Christians were. At the martyrs stake, will you blame God? Will you ask Him why doesn't He do something about it?

In your situation, perhaps God does not want to tell you why you have to experience what you are experiencing. Is He obligated to? I noticed in the book of (Job) which I am sure you are familiar with, that God never did tell Job the why. We are given in the Scripture to know the why, but God never did tell Job why. Even though you don't know the lesson and purpose, He does.

Concerning our suffering here: (1 Peter 4:12-13), (Eph. 3:1-6), (Acts 9:16),

Compare (Acts 9:4) with (Col. 1:24).

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