Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

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Ahem....have you seen some of Hollywood's more dodgy films? (Hello, the Isle of Dr Moreau?) Evidence is to the contrary, I believe!
Regardless of the your point, which may or may not have biblical merit, point in fact, you CAN make this stuff up. :D

Hmm , I guess you can. But I am a little familiar with genetics and DNA and this is going on right now. But I guess one can deny what science has been able to do with fallen angel knowledge. What has my attention is ,your lack of belief in Christ's words about the times. Seems men do make stuff up and also deny truth. And greater still , something written thousands and thousands of years ago is relevant today, I did not make that up for sure. For men to speak of the mixing of species which they obviously saw, and then it became silent for thousands of years to only now start rearing its head again , to me ,you can't make this stuff up. And there is nothing new under the sun, even your scoffing. Carry on all you like , modern man did not write those books, yet modern man is doing EXACTLY what those books said would happen again ,which is affirmed by Christ Himself. This goes beyond food for thought to actual events that are happening -NOW. And there is nothing new under the sun including your mockery of the obvious.
 

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Of course you do mean the visible and sudden return of Christ, in flaming fire and all His Glory!
2 Thessalonians 1:7-10; 5:1-5
"Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, 'Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.'” Acts of the Apostles 1:9-11 NKJV

"And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever." Daniel 2:44 NKJV

"For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,

Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this." Isaiah 9:6-7 NKJV

"Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure." 1 John 3:2-3 NKJV
 
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Hmm , I guess you can. But I am a little familiar with genetics and DNA and this is going on right now. But I guess one can deny what science has been able to do with fallen angel knowledge. What has my attention is ,your lack of belief in Christ's words about the times. Seems men do make stuff up and also deny truth. And greater still , something written thousands and thousands of years ago is relevant today, I did not make that up for sure. For men to speak of the mixing of species which they obviously saw, and then it became silent for thousands of years to only now start rearing its head again , to me ,you can't make this stuff up. And there is nothing new under the sun, even your scoffing. Carry on all you like , modern man did not write those books, yet modern man is doing EXACTLY what those books said would happen again ,which is affirmed by Christ Himself. This goes beyond food for thought to actual events that are happening -NOW. And there is nothing new under the sun including your mockery of the obvious.

Actually, I wasn't commenting on the truth or fallacy of your post. I thought I said that. I'm actually reading a book at the moment called Unseen Realms that has me thinking on all this more than I ever would have, so I'm not comfortable to make a claim one way or the other just yet. But I'm most certainly not 'mocking, scoffing or unbelieving'.
My post was strictly in line with the 'you can't make this stuff up'...because I found it both funny and inaccurate, considering.
 
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Hmm....and when is the Millennium , in your opinion?
When Jesus Returns, as described in Matthew 24:29-30, Revelation 19:11, + , after His wrath is completed; He will reign on earth for the next 1000 years.
Keraz, I thought the snatching up was at the end of the tribulation? Are you saying the Millennium is the millennial reign? If so , are you saying you believe they are at the same time? I believe the 1000 year reign is for the first resurrection.
It is, but be aware Paul is referring to the gathering of those who remain after the Great Tribulation; a horizontal transportation, by the angels, as Matthew 24:31 says. As Philip was; Acts 8:39
The first resurrection is only for the Tribulation martyrs. Revelation 20:4 They are brought back to life; not made immortal yet.
Those who mislead the flock. I've always understood the references to those people as being just unsaved wolves who lure people away from Christ's Church. And sure...they're totally up for punishment. 'Cause they're not saved!
Unfortunately most are or at least were; saved Christians, but are deceived and teach what they wrongly believe is the truth.
Do you mean...just to confirm...that there are those who do believe in the Pre-trib Rapture who DO hold to it being a salvation issue? In that, those who do not believe in it are NOT saved?
I have been abused and told I will go to hell for teaching against the 'rapture to heaven'. By supposed Christians.
The Lord is the Judge.
Like I said, I know too many of them and their faith rests so strongly on Christ and him alone for it to be shaken by something like that.
What is coming will be our great test of faith. 1 Peter 4:12, James 1:12
When God doesn't do for them, what people have firmly believed for all their Christian life, then many will renounce God.
Who is to blame for this? The pastors who preach false doctrines and the congregations who lap it all up.
 

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Unfortunately most are or at least were; saved Christians, but are deceived and teach what they wrongly believe is the truth.
Mmmm, we're dipping into OSAS here, which is not really the subject at hand. But briefly...if someone turns their back on Christ and leads others away as well, I don't think scripture supports the idea they were ever truly regenerated in the first place.

I have been abused and told I will go to hell for teaching against the 'rapture to heaven'. By supposed Christians.
The Lord is the Judge.
Very wrong of them. I'm trying to remember if they've ever outright fronted that up to me. It's possible. I'm an Amil, so about as 'nasty and liberal' as you can get from their view and they're certainly not shy in telling me that. It doesn't really bother me 'cause I know their wrong. And I'm convinced I don't need to engage in the same behavior or belief (believing they are doomed) to chat with them or exist in the same forum as them!
But, as I said, I have known some Pre-tribbers who would never speak to anyone in such disrespectful manners. My Grandparents spring to mind firstly. They've passed now, but the thing I loved best about them was how they just had time for people, you know? Didn't matter what people thought or believed, they were worth something, worth being kind to and knowing. They were good people and I wish I was half as decent. And they were out and out Dispensationalists...had a Rapture poster on the wall and everything! But that never got in the way of their loving Christ and loving people. So...my point: you can't lump everyone into the same group.

What is coming will be our great test of faith. 1 Peter 4:12, James 1:12
When God doesn't do for them, what people have firmly believed for all their Christian life, then many will renounce God.
Who is to blame for this? The pastors who preach false doctrines and the congregations who lap it all up.
I'm sure it will be a test...for all of our faith. But people's faith has been tested consistently over the years. Maybe not where you or I live at present, but even now there are horrific things being done to our brothers and sisters in faith. And it doesn't really matter what view they hold about Christ's return...I suspect the fact that he IS returning is what gives them strength and hope to persevere. And you'll find it will be the same with Dispensationalists. If they are false, and are 'in it' simply for the hype of the Rapture movement itself...sure...I expect they will fall away in the face of hardship. But if these people truly have a relationship with Christ, they have his promise that he will hold onto them. So, they may be disappointed. Heck...I was a touch disappointed when I finally came to the realization that Dispensationalism wasn't biblical. But the last thing it did was prompt me to abandon Jesus!
 

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When Jesus Returns, as described in Matthew 24:29-30, Revelation 19:11, + , after His wrath is completed; He will reign on earth for the next 1000 years.

It is, but be aware Paul is referring to the gathering of those who remain after the Great Tribulation; a horizontal transportation, by the angels, as Matthew 24:31 says. As Philip was; Acts 8:39
The first resurrection is only for the Tribulation martyrs. Revelation 20:4 They are brought back to life; not made immortal yet.

Unfortunately most are or at least were; saved Christians, but are deceived and teach what they wrongly believe is the truth.

I have been abused and told I will go to hell for teaching against the 'rapture to heaven'. By supposed Christians.
The Lord is the Judge.

What is coming will be our great test of faith. 1 Peter 4:12, James 1:12
When God doesn't do for them, what people have firmly believed for all their Christian life, then many will renounce God.
Who is to blame for this? The pastors who preach false doctrines and the congregations who lap it all up.


Thanks for sharing your views . One thing though there are two groups and not all are beheaded. There are those who are caught up/snatched up to meet those who have fallen asleep to the earth and were resurrected. They are transformed in a moment in a twinkling of an eye. They have an instant death and resurrection and too are first fruits. They experience what Christ's mother did. This particular group , no one shall take their lives. Christ Himself transforms them instantly. This is the 144, 000 of Rev. 14 and are of the group called Philadelphia = Brotherly love. they are kept during the hour of trial which is soon to come upon the earth. They are the portion of the Elect suggested to Christ and are Virgins ,meaning -made perfect and are The Virgin Mother's choice. They are like her in the fact they bring forth and nurture the Male Child -Christ (REV.12) in the soul. The ones who are beheaded are the Rev.7 portion out of the 12 tribes of Israel, her offspring. Rev.14 are those chosen out of gentile nations and are the portion of the Elect who is the Shulammite (from the place of peace) her name is Kuria- the Noble Lady. They are chosen out of the queen denominations.

Concerning Rev.20:4-5 RSVCE

4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed (These are those who are snatched up) . (The Second group) -Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.

The second death has no power over them meaning they will never be tested, again , therefore not deceived. The second resurrection is just that , second fruits. We know Israel presented their first fruits of the harvest to God and second fruits were less, in quality. That transcends to all our harvest. The first of the crop is always superior in quality to the second.

The first fruits are part of the first resurrect and will reign with Christ in PEACE. If you notice after this reign (their peace) is the second fruits resurrection and also satan too is released to test once AGAIN , not the first but rather the second whom he will manage to deceive of the many . The few he does not, his testing will simply improve their quality. And did you know some of the first fruits have already been resurrected and taken to heaven? They are the saints who were raised from the graves at Christ's resurrection. They were baptized at His crucifixion when His side was pierced and the rocks split(nod to Moses when he split the rock and water came forth) . They ascended with Christ's first ascension , He did more than one ascension . They were the saints of the beginning of the Covenant - of the old covenant (anyway that is another discussion).

The First fruits will have dominion over the second and dwell in the Holy city Jerusalem they are eternal. The second fruits are who will be tested. They will be the nations out side of the city. Gog means -roof ,Magog simply means-from Gog, So, from roof to roof of the four corners of the earth he will deceive the nations. So satan will come from the roof or ceiling over the earth and deceive the nations. That would indicate from space. The heavens are renewed meaning -"heaven is my throne" and the earth is renewed - "the earth is my footstool" and between that SPACE( his prison) is from where he will come and deceive again. But that is the final test ,and it is for the second fruits. He will do that now for the first fruits- deceive with the extraterrestrial deception.

Satan’s Doom
7 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be loosed from his prison (Gog-the roof over the earth- space) 8 and will come out to deceive the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, that is, Gog and Magog (This is his prison Gog- Space - Magog -The roof over earth) (, when it says "that is" it is not talking about evil nations, for the earth has been renewed and no evil is on it until he enters from the roof over the earth -From space over the earth ) to gather them for battle (to deceive first then gather them); their number is like the sand of the sea. 9 And they marched up over the broad earth and surrounded the camp - ( Israel ) of the saints and the beloved city( Jerusalem); but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, 10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone where the (beast and the false prophet were), and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The beast and the false prophet will be thrown there before satan and the second fruits are. They are already on the scene and are part of the deception which is rearing its ugly head now! Notice "Were", during the last releasing of satan were indicates- have already been thrown into that fire.

The Beast and false prophet are for now!

Since he is released or loosed AGAIN that means he is going to use the same deception that he will use during the time of tribulation for the last of the first fruits.

People who died long before this who were not first fruits have not experienced the extraterrestrial deception. second fruits are those who are not of the highest quality but are not bad enough to be thrown into the fire. At their resurrection is when their quality will be tested with this deception (which comes again)at which point those who fail will experience the second death , which is , eternal damnation , a second death that will cut them off forever from God's LOVE- LIFE.

The deception is coming now for the First Fruits of the End of the Age.They are the completion of the first fruits of the House of God. Some will be martyred and some snatched up.
 

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The ancients knew of all of this even Enoch , Jasher, Abraham,Jacob , David, Solomon, Daniel the apostles all knew of the alien deception . Now since this is all relevant today let's look at Daniel with new eyes.
Many believe that Daniel's dream and vision is the same as King Nebuchadnezzar's dream of the four kingdoms of the statue. They are not!

I will build gradually ,(peeling away the onion) to what Daniel and other prophecy states:
This fourth kingdom (Has advanced technology) must fall in line with the Beast out of the earth which is
soon upon us Rev.13. This Beast out of the earth is a recovered system, which is still of the image of the beast out of the Sea.
For the fourth kingdom will cause all to worship the prior. Revelation 13:11-18

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a
dragon (Serpent). This is the "difference" in image it is a dragon, dragons do not exist in the natural world. The images of the other creatures do.
This is something other worldly.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell
therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. The Beast out of the Sea is already here and has been for quite some time, established

The two horns like a lamb -represents a false Messiah , who will speak as the dragon.


This Fourth Kingdom therefore, is also from which the "Man of Sin " must come. He will also worship some-
thing "Different"
Daniel 11:37
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify
himself above all.

Because he is to be a false Messiah hence (two horns like a lamb) ,he must be of the Edom Jew line, he has to
be seen as a Jew. He will reject the God of his fathers:

Since Scripture often speaks of the Jews as descended from their "fathers" and particularly from their fathers
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob it is fair to say this is an Edom Jew. The Edom Jew has descended from a Nephilim blood line. Esau caused the mixing of Abraham's blood line to mingle with Nephilim. (I will point out the history and scriptures after this . I do not want to get ahead of myself and confuse this discussion for anyone.)

Back to Daniel.
He will also reject the gods of all other religions as well:
Daniel 11:38
Instead of these, he will worship the god of fortresses-a god his ancestors never knew an alien god whom his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with ...

Interestingly today we have a literal "alien" deception that has been in the making for some time. Was Daniel actually being specific?We know alien can mean foreign , strange or different or can mean extraterrestrial. men have always assumed in more recent history that , that is what Daniel meant (foreign like a pagan god or something)
But in our recent history the 'Alien' concept is VERY relevant! ,.
It is true that this concept is becoming more and more relevant and acceptable. Even in papal discussion in the
tongue and cheek comments of Pope Francis " I would baptize aliens...yeah those little green guys that little
children draw. I would refuse no one who would come to Christ". He said this in a brush off, jokingly manner
that has serious implications concerning what is REALLY going on. This is not a joke! His patronizing attitude
and sarcasm speaks volumes.

Throughout ancient history and cultures we have heard and read of the watchers , all the fallen angels ( from the Hebrews)
and god's from the stars. but not one of those cultures ever called them 'aliens' or 'extraterrestrials'. That has become a recent thing and is ajoined to evolution and that the planet was seeded by extraterrestrials . The hit show on the History channel is big on changing every mention of God , god's and angels to aliens and extraterrestrials WHY? Because they are in the spirit of the end time deception. That is why in Daniel the god of the man of Sin is said to be different, a god not known to the forefathers . They would simply call them fallen angels , supernatural beings not extraterrestrial. They would know they are devils which have produced Nephilim and would never glorify them as they are today under the guise and title of Alien or extraterrestrial
.It would seem this fourth kingdom is one based on advancements in technology rather than spiritual growth. It
is clear the present Beast system out of the sea, which consist of many people nations and tongues will be
missed along with its technology.....computers , cell phones and all kinds of gadgets (The Blow to the head of that system is now coming). For a little time- this will not be (technology for the masses) after the blow to the HEAD happens. This is close at hand! This blow is the First Nourishment time of Rev. 12.

The Elect Lady will flee into the wilderness. She will be nourished while the system is down she is pursued because she has brought forth the male Child -Christ,in knowledge, for the souls of men. The second period is when the Elect lady is bore up on eagles wings away from the ancient serpent and brought to her place, where she is nourished for a time, times and half a time (NOT DISCLOSED and ONLY GOD KNOWS THAT TIME). The ancient serpent then goes and wages war on her offspring Kyrie.

Continued......
 

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Rev.12
5 She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught

up to God and to his throne,

She is made in the Image of Mother Mary whom she mirrors, in the matter of purity and Grace.

She has a devotion to Mother Mary. Rev. 12 first and foremost represents Christ's mother Second the Mother
Elect Church made in her likeness concerning bringing forth Christ in perfection of knowledge and gifts. Through her
Motherly care, we have the birth of Christ in our souls. Christ has already gone up to God's throne now the birth
is in the soul. He governs from the throne of heaven. So absolutely, FIRST and FOREMOST this about the Theotokos

Christ was NOT caught up to God's throne by the Bride Birthing Him for we are Born in Him, so my understanding is correct concerning the symbolic imagery of Rev.12.

It is Secondly the Bride (The Elect), bringing forth Christ and His undiluted Word to the world.

That is happening now!

When the dragon is cast down we will flee (The Shulammite body called the Kuria, The Noble Lady.)

Revelation 12:6



6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her
there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

This is the blow to the head of the beast out of the sea, the present re-established Roman beast system kingdom.
The Beast out of the earth will be brought about through global war and cosmic events. It will literally be out of the earth because it is a kingdom
built underground . Underground cities and bunkers have already been built. We all know of them, unless you have been living in a box with no light sound or knowledge of the world. we are very deep into the End of the Age. People need to wake up!


It is a beast system established through extraterrestrial influence and the worship of them. THE LAST DECEP-
TION= something different, something not known to the fathers (as extraterrestrial that is.)

Different Yes in representation (NAME), but the same as in spirit of fallen angels. They have created an elabo-
rate HOAX , EXTRATERRESTRIAL ! Alien god literally being stated in Daniel not meaning foreign.



Isaiah 24:21-23

21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high,
and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison,
and after many days shall they be visited.

23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in mount Zion,
and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

THE SIXTH SEAL come to be known as 'The 3 Days of Darkness' the ELECT who have reached the ZENITH
of the Faith ZION will definitely survive as will those who are Rev.7 they will be sealed before this event.

The Interpretation of the Dream Daniel 7:15-28

15 “I, Daniel, was troubled in spirit, and the visions that passed through my mind disturbed me. 16 I approached
one of those standing there and asked him the meaning of all this.

“So he told me and gave me the interpretation of these things: 17 ‘The four great beasts are four kings that will
rise from the earth. 18 But the holy people of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it
forever—yes, for ever and ever.’

19 “Then I wanted to know the meaning of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others and most
terrifying, with its iron teeth and bronze claws—the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled
underfoot whatever was left. 20 I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn
that came up, before which three of them fell—the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had
eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. 21 As I watched, this horn was waging war against the holy people and
defeating them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the holy people of the
Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.

23 “He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be dif-
ferent from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. 24 The
ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the
earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. 25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people
and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times
and half a time.

26 “‘But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. 27 Then the
sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of
the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.’

28 “This is the end of the matter. I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts, and my face turned pale, but I
kept the matter to myself.”



TO BE CONTINUED.......
 

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Actually, I wasn't commenting on the truth or fallacy of your post. I thought I said that. I'm actually reading a book at the moment called Unseen Realms that has me thinking on all this more than I ever would have, so I'm not comfortable to make a claim one way or the other just yet. But I'm most certainly not 'mocking, scoffing or unbelieving'.
My post was strictly in line with the 'you can't make this stuff up'...because I found it both funny and inaccurate, considering.

Your words still are mixed but it would seem someone likes them , though they make no sense. But maybe she knows how you mean them by reading your mind. To me they make no sense. Oh well. Thanks and no thanks , hello and goodbye I guess. I'm just trying to keep with your flow you know , don't know here and there. But I am in no way committed either way to saying you clarified that or not , you know.;). God Bless anyway and thanks for sharing whatever you mean.
 

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That the reader may understand what I mean when I mentioned the four beast as they concern the last beast kingdom . I will show with historical accounts what was, is, and is soon to come. And how God gave the Real News concerning men and their kingdoms ahead of time. For God is sovereign over the affairs of men. This is not the same as King Nebuchadnezzar's dream of the four kingdoms of the statue as I said in the beginning of these post. This is very detailed but symbolic what Daniel dreamed.

More on Daniel 7:1-7
Daniel 7:1-7
Visions of the Four Beasts
7 In the first year of Belshaz′zar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream and visions of his head as he lay in his bed. Then he wrote down the dream, and told the sum of the matter. 2 Daniel said, “I saw in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven were stirring up the great sea. 3 And four great beasts came up out of the sea, different from one another. 4 The first was like a lion and had eagles’ wings. Then as I looked its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand upon two feet like a man; and the mind of a man was given to it. 5 And behold, another beast, a second one, like a bear. It was raised up on one side; it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth; and it was told, ‘Arise, devour much flesh.’ 6 After this I looked, and lo, another, like a leopard, with four wings of a bird on its back; and the beast had four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, terrible and dreadful and exceedingly strong; and it had great iron teeth; it devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

FIRST: Lion with eagles wings-
The Lion represents England-
When and why did the lion become the symbol of England?
Antony Bellingall, Sendai, Japan
  • The arms of three lions can only be said to date for certain from the time of Richard l. Some earlier monarchs may have used badges but there is no certain evidence of systematic use. It is conjectured that a lion was the badge of Henry l and Henry ll may have borne two lions as arms. At a later date lions became the arms of the Duchy of Normandy and these have been assigned as ares to William l, ll, Henry l & ll. Stephen appears to have used a centaur as a badge.
    John K. Bromilow, Okehampton United Kingdom
  • The reason is that the lion was thought to be the animal that best personify qualities of 'Britishness' ....Strength, courage, dignity, pride etc. They presumably didn't think any native animals had the necessary qualities.
The Eagles wings depict America which would be picked off of England and England would be made to stand like a man.
4 “The first was like a lion and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a human being, and the mind of a human was given to it.

This is when the Declaration of Independence was declared by America. England believed itself to be divine and supreme. But God said, AH NO! Your are mere men, I determine the rise and fall of nations and kings. You will be just a man, for a man you are and subject to changes I decree. You have the mind of a man not God. England stand up on your own two feet.

See, America was no longer going to be the legs of England to support its financial needs.
The United States Declaration of Independence is the statement adopted by the Second Continental Congress meeting at the Pennsylvania State House in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on July 4, 1776.

THIS DAY IN HISTORY
1776
King speaks for first time since independence declared. October 31st 1776. This is when England stood up , like a mere man.

On this day in 1776, in his first speech before British Parliament since the leaders of the American Revolution came together to sign of the Declaration of Independence that summer, King George III acknowledges that all was not going well for Britain in the war with the United States.
In his address, the king spoke about the signing of the U.S. Declaration of Independence and the revolutionary leaders who signed it, saying, “for daring and desperate is the spirit of those leaders, whose object has always been dominion and power, that they have now openly renounced all allegiance to the crown, and all political connection with this country.” The king went on to inform Parliament of the successful British victory over General George Washington and the Continental Army at the Battle of Long Island on August 27, 1776, but warned them that, “notwithstanding the fair prospect, it was necessary to prepare for another campaign.”
Despite George III’s harsh words, General William Howe and his brother, Admiral Richard Howe, still hoped to convince the Americans to rejoin the British empire in the wake of the colonists’ humiliating defeat at the Battle of Long Island. The British could easily have prevented Washington’s retreat from Long Island and captured most of the Patriot officer corps, including the commander in chief. However, instead of forcing the former colonies into submission by executing Washington and his officers as traitors, the Howe brothers let them go with the hope of swaying Patriot opinion towards a return to the mother country.

The Howe brothers’ attempts at negotiation failed, and the War for Independence dragged on for another four years, until the formal surrender of the British to the Americans on October 19, 1781, after the Battle of Yorktown.


Daniel 4:17

17 The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men, and gives it to whom he will, and sets over it the lowliest of men.’

This is so all people may know that the Most High God -rules [is sovereign] over every affair of man ... He gives it to anyone He wants and sets the lowliest of men over it. ... He arranges kingdom's affairs however he wishes, and makes leaders out of the lowliest.

THE BIRTH OF AMERICA BORN OF EAGLES WINGS. (This will be explained as these post continue).

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THE SECOND BEAST: And behold, another beast, a second one, like a bear.

This is Russia:The Russian Bear is a widespread symbol (generally of a Eurasian brown bear) for Russia, used in cartoons, articles and dramatic plays since as early as the 16th century, and relating alike to the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union and the present-day Russian Federation.

The bear is not, and never was, an official symbol of Russia. Officially, Russia’s coat-of-arms is the double-headed eagle
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In the West, Russia was associated with the bear, but that was more of a derogatory association — an uncouth backwards bully from the deep woods. More recently Russians began to take a measure of pride in this association, but for the opposite reason — the strength, intelligence, fearlessness and cunning. To the point where the parliament was considering making the bear the Russian coat-of-arms after the dissolution of the USSR, but in the end — the two-headed eagle of the old Russian Empire has won.

So why is Russia the Bear? AGAIN:
The Russian Bear is a widespread symbol (generally of a Eurasian brown bear) for Russia, used in cartoons, articles and dramatic plays since as early as the 16th century, and relating alike to the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union and the present-day Russian Federation.
So what was going on in the 16th century that God needed to make us aware of through our beloved prophet Daniel? God called Russia the Bear but that was not its national symbol, yet the Bear has stuck no matter what. God is no Joke!

RUSSIA IN THE 16th CENTURY. ... Meanwhile in 1533 Ivan IV, also known as Ivan the Terrible inherited the throne of Russia. However he was only 3 years old and he did not obtain power until 1547. He was crowned Tsar, a word derived from the Roman Caesar. ROMAN INFLUENCE.

The first to be called Tzar formally of Russia:
The Muscovite ruler was recognized as an emperor by Maximilian I, the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire in 1514. However, the first Russian ruler to be formally crowned as «ЦР҃Ь ВСЕꙖ РУСИ» ("Tsar of all Rus'" or "Tsar of all Russias") was Ivan IV, until then known as Grand Prince of all Rus' (1547)

God has called Russia a Bear and it has stuck. Considering the two headed eagle is man's choice, it is interesting that it is God's choice which has endured;). Men are going to learn that God is and there is NO GOD but our God. I can assure every man and every religion that the God of Israel is the One True God and no other religion has ever called all this ahead of time!

"Ivan the Terrible" what did he do to get this name?
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Ivan the Terrible, or Ivan IV, was the first tsar of all Russia. During his reign (1533-1584), Ivan acquired vast amounts of land through ruthless means, creating a centrally controlled government.
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The grandson of Ivan the Great, Ivan the Terrible, or Ivan IV, acquired vast amounts of land during his long reign (1533-1584), an era marked by the conquest of the khanates of Kazan, Astrakhan and Siberia. Ivan the Terrible created a centrally controlled Russian state, imposed by military dominance. Many believe him to have been mentally ill. One of his violent outbursts was perhaps the reason for his son's death.
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Early Life
The first tsar of all Russia, Ivan the Terrible, or Ivan IV, had a complex personality. Intelligent yet prone to outbreaks of uncontrollable rage, Ivan's tragic background contributed to his infamous behavior. Not a lot of detail is known about his early life, and historians debate his accomplishments as a leader. However, it is generally agreed that his reign established the current Russian territory and centralized government for centuries to come.

The grandson of Ivan the Great, Ivan the Terrible was born Ivan Chetvyorty Vasilyevich on August 25, 1530, in the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, Russia, to members of the Rurik dynasty. His father, Basil III, died when he was 3 years old. His mother, Elena Glinskaya, ruled as regent until her death in 1538, when Ivan was 8. During this time, the realm rapidly degenerated into chaos as rival boyar (noble) families disputed the legitimacy of her rule.
The court intrigue and constant danger that Ivan was exposed to while growing up molded much of his ruthless and suspicious nature. Evidence indicates that Ivan was a sensitive, intelligent boy, neglected and occasionally scorned by members of the nobility who looked after him after his parents' death. The environment nurtured his hatred for the boyar class, whom he suspected of being involved in his mother's death. He reportedly tortured small animals as a boy, yet still managed to develop a taste for literature and music.
Tsar of Muscovy
In 1547, Ivan IV was crowned tsar of Muscovy. That same year, he married Anastasia Romanovna. In 1549, Ivan appointed a council of advisers, a consensus-building assembly who helped institute his reforms. During what is considered the constructive period of his reign, he introduced self-government in rural regions, reformed tax collection, and instituted statutory law and church reform. In 1556, he instituted regulations on the obligations of the boyar class in service of the crown.

In foreign policy, Ivan IV had two main goals: to resist the Mongol Golden Horde and to gain access to the Baltic Sea. Ultimately, he aimed to conquer all remaining independent regions and create a larger, more centralized Russia.
In 1552 and 1556, Ivan's armies crushed the Tartar khanates of Kazan and Astrakhan, respectively. This extended Muscovy control to the Urals in the east and the Caspian Sea in the south, creating a buffer zone against the Mongols. (Ivan commissioned St. Basil's Cathedral in Moscow's Red Square, built between 1555 and 1561, to commemorate the conquest of the Tatar city of Kazan.) Ivan was not as successful, however, at annexing Lithuania and gaining access to the Baltic: One of his advisers defected to Lithuania and led its army to defeat Ivan IV's offensive.
While his initial efforts were successful, Ivan the Terrible's methods disrupted the economy and culture. He seized private lands and redistributed them among his supported, and created a police force dressed all in black, astride black horses, that existed more to crush dissent than to keep the peace. Thusly, Ivan was not a popular leader, and his unpopularity would continue to grow over the next several years.
Reign of Terror
Upon the death of his first wife in 1560, Ivan IV went into a deep depression and his behavior became more erratic. His suspicion that she had been murdered by the boyars only deepened his paranoia. He left Moscow suddenly and threatened to abdicate the throne. Leaderless, the Muscovites pleaded for his return. He agreed, but on the condition that he be granted absolute power of the region surrounding Moscow, known as the oprichnina. He also demanded the authority to punish traitors and law breakers with execution and confiscation of property.
Over the next 24 years, Ivan IV conducted a reign of terror, displacing and destroying the major boyar families in the region, and earning the moniker by which he's now best known. (He's also known by the nickname "Grozny," which roughly translates as "formidable or sparking terror or fear.") It was during this period that Ivan beat his pregnant daughter-in-law, causing a miscarriage, killed his son in a subsequent fit of rage, and blinded the architect of St. Basil's Cathedral. It was also during this time that he created the Oprichniki, the first official secret Russian police force.
Death and Aftermath
In 1584, with his health failing, Ivan the Terrible became obsessed with death, calling upon witches and soothsayers to sustain him, but to no avail. The end came on March 18, 1584, when Ivan died of an apparent stroke. He had willed the kingdom to his unfit son, Feodor, whose rule spiraled Russia into the catastrophic Time of Troubles, leading to the establishment of the Romanov Dynasty.

When Ivan the Terrible died, he left the country in disarrary, with deep political and social scars. Russia would not merge from the chaos until the reign of Peter the Great more than a century later.

Russian filmmaker Sergei Eisenstein's two-part epic about the infamous leader, Ivan Groznyi (1945, 1958), is considered one of the finest films of the Soviet era.



Ivan the Terrible was a Tyrant who lived up to his name. He was a hypocrite, doing all his evil while proclaiming to believe in God and Mother Church. He gained MUCH land and created a great empire through Blood shed: 5 And behold, another beast, a second one, like a bear. It was raised up on one side; it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth; and it was told, ‘Arise, devour much flesh.’
Russia was about to collapse with Ivan The Terrible on the scene. It would have toppled over during his reign, (hence, why it was raised up on its side).
Ivan the Terrible saw himself as God On Earth!

The relevance of this is to show how God calls it THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE HAND. All Glory to God!

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Your words still are mixed but it would seem someone likes them , though they make no sense. But maybe she knows how you mean them by reading your mind. To me they make no sense. Oh well. Thanks and no thanks , hello and goodbye I guess. I'm just trying to keep with your flow you know , don't know here and there. But I am in no way committed either way to saying you clarified that or not , you know.;). God Bless anyway and thanks for sharing whatever you mean.
I'm sorry I haven't been concise enough.
Your post consisted mostly of thoughts regarding angels interbreeding with humans and animals, or humans and animals, or some such. On this I have no comment. One way or the other...so no such scoffing or mocking can take place.
You also commented that "you can't make this stuff up". On this I DID comment, because movies as bizarre as this have been coming out of Hollywood for some time. So, clearly you CAN make this stuff up. I, therefore, found the "you can't make this stuff up" comment entertaining and inaccurate, and decided to point both out.
That was the be all and end all of my comment. And all in all, fairly simple, I thought.
 
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I'm sorry I haven't been concise enough.
Your post consisted mostly of thoughts regarding angels interbreeding with humans and animals, or humans and animals, or some such. On this I have no comment. One way or the other...so no such scoffing or mocking can take place.
You also commented that "you can't make this stuff up". On this I DID comment, because movies as bizarre as this have been coming out of Hollywood for some time. So, clearly you CAN make this stuff up. I, therefore, found the "you can't make this stuff up" comment entertaining and inaccurate, and decided to point both out.
That was the be all and end all of my comment. And all in all, fairly simple, I thought.

"You also commented that "you can't make this stuff up". On this I DID comment, because movies as bizarre as this have been coming out of Hollywood for some time."

I am not discussing Hollywood spin on prophetic word which is unfolding.As bizarre as all this sounds it is not made up-prophetic word.
 

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That the reader may understand what I mean when I mentioned the four beast as they concern the last beast kingdom . I will show with historical accounts what was, is, and is soon to come. And how God gave the Real News concerning men and their kingdoms ahead of time. For God is sovereign over the affairs of men. This is not the same as King Nebuchadnezzar's dream of the four kingdoms of the statue as I said in the beginning of these post. This is very detailed but symbolic what Daniel dreamed.

More on Daniel 7:1-7
Daniel 7:1-7
Visions of the Four Beasts
7 In the first year of Belshaz′zar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream and visions of his head as he lay in his bed. Then he wrote down the dream, and told the sum of the matter. 2 Daniel said, “I saw in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven were stirring up the great sea. 3 And four great beasts came up out of the sea, different from one another. 4 The first was like a lion and had eagles’ wings. Then as I looked its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand upon two feet like a man; and the mind of a man was given to it. 5 And behold, another beast, a second one, like a bear. It was raised up on one side; it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth; and it was told, ‘Arise, devour much flesh.’ 6 After this I looked, and lo, another, like a leopard, with four wings of a bird on its back; and the beast had four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, terrible and dreadful and exceedingly strong; and it had great iron teeth; it devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

FIRST: Lion with eagles wings-
The Lion represents England-
When and why did the lion become the symbol of England?
Antony Bellingall, Sendai, Japan
  • The arms of three lions can only be said to date for certain from the time of Richard l. Some earlier monarchs may have used badges but there is no certain evidence of systematic use. It is conjectured that a lion was the badge of Henry l and Henry ll may have borne two lions as arms. At a later date lions became the arms of the Duchy of Normandy and these have been assigned as ares to William l, ll, Henry l & ll. Stephen appears to have used a centaur as a badge.
    John K. Bromilow, Okehampton United Kingdom
  • The reason is that the lion was thought to be the animal that best personify qualities of 'Britishness' ....Strength, courage, dignity, pride etc. They presumably didn't think any native animals had the necessary qualities.
The Eagles wings depict America which would be picked off of England and England would be made to stand like a man.
4 “The first was like a lion and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a human being, and the mind of a human was given to it.

This is when the Declaration of Independence was declared by America. England believed itself to be divine and supreme. But God said, AH NO! Your are mere men, I determine the rise and fall of nations and kings. You will be just a man, for a man you are and subject to changes I decree. You have the mind of a man not God. England stand up on your own two feet.

See, America was no longer going to be the legs of England to support its financial needs.
The United States Declaration of Independence is the statement adopted by the Second Continental Congress meeting at the Pennsylvania State House in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on July 4, 1776.

THIS DAY IN HISTORY
1776
King speaks for first time since independence declared. October 31st 1776. This is when England stood up , like a mere man.

On this day in 1776, in his first speech before British Parliament since the leaders of the American Revolution came together to sign of the Declaration of Independence that summer, King George III acknowledges that all was not going well for Britain in the war with the United States.
In his address, the king spoke about the signing of the U.S. Declaration of Independence and the revolutionary leaders who signed it, saying, “for daring and desperate is the spirit of those leaders, whose object has always been dominion and power, that they have now openly renounced all allegiance to the crown, and all political connection with this country.” The king went on to inform Parliament of the successful British victory over General George Washington and the Continental Army at the Battle of Long Island on August 27, 1776, but warned them that, “notwithstanding the fair prospect, it was necessary to prepare for another campaign.”
Despite George III’s harsh words, General William Howe and his brother, Admiral Richard Howe, still hoped to convince the Americans to rejoin the British empire in the wake of the colonists’ humiliating defeat at the Battle of Long Island. The British could easily have prevented Washington’s retreat from Long Island and captured most of the Patriot officer corps, including the commander in chief. However, instead of forcing the former colonies into submission by executing Washington and his officers as traitors, the Howe brothers let them go with the hope of swaying Patriot opinion towards a return to the mother country.

The Howe brothers’ attempts at negotiation failed, and the War for Independence dragged on for another four years, until the formal surrender of the British to the Americans on October 19, 1781, after the Battle of Yorktown.


Daniel 4:17

17 The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men, and gives it to whom he will, and sets over it the lowliest of men.’

This is so all people may know that the Most High God -rules [is sovereign] over every affair of man ... He gives it to anyone He wants and sets the lowliest of men over it. ... He arranges kingdom's affairs however he wishes, and makes leaders out of the lowliest.

THE BIRTH OF AMERICA BORN OF EAGLES WINGS. (This will be explained as these post continue).

Continued......

That's a totally misapplication of the Daniel 7 prophecy.

The lion with eagle's wings symbol was about the old Babylon empire under king Nebuchadnezzar (Jeremiah 4:7; Jeremiah 4:13).

The bear was a symbol for Medo-Persian which ended the Babylon empire (Jeremiah 51:47-49). The 3 ribs in its mouth were Media, Lydia, and Babylon.

The leopard symbol represented Alexander's Grecia. It broke into four kingdoms after Alexader's death (Macedon, Thrace & Bithynia, Egypt, Syria).

The 4th beast isn't defined by an animal symbol. It was described as having great iron teeth (Daniel 7:7). Iron was the attribute of the Dan.2 beast "legs of iron", which was the old Roman empire that appeared next and conquered those remnants of Alexander's old empire.

Then ten horns of Daniel 7 link to the final beast kingdom to manifest on earth when Jesus returns, which is still future. That is when the ten kings (ten horns) are to manifest, concurrently, with the final beast king (Rev.13 & Rev.17). Because Daniel 2:34-35 describes this final beast as having feet of part iron mixed with clay, and it will be the one Christ will smite when He returns, it is thought to be a revived... Roman empire. However, the Daniel 2 Scripture shows all... the five pieces of the beast statue together when the stone smites it upon its feet, symbolizing the coming one-world government under the Antichrist.
 

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That's a totally misapplication of the Daniel 7 prophecy.

The lion with eagle's wings symbol was about the old Babylon empire under king Nebuchadnezzar (Jeremiah 4:7; Jeremiah 4:13).

The bear was a symbol for Medo-Persian which ended the Babylon empire (Jeremiah 51:47-49). The 3 ribs in its mouth were Media, Lydia, and Babylon.

The leopard symbol represented Alexander's Grecia. It broke into four kingdoms after Alexader's death (Macedon, Thrace & Bithynia, Egypt, Syria).

The 4th beast isn't defined by an animal symbol. It was described as having great iron teeth (Daniel 7:7). Iron was the attribute of the Dan.2 beast "legs of iron", which was the old Roman empire that appeared next and conquered those remnants of Alexander's old empire.

Then ten horns of Daniel 7 link to the final beast kingdom to manifest on earth when Jesus returns, which is still future. That is when the ten kings (ten horns) are to manifest, concurrently, with the final beast king (Rev.13 & Rev.17). Because Daniel 2:34-35 describes this final beast as having feet of part iron mixed with clay, and it will be the one Christ will smite when He returns, it is thought to be a revived... Roman empire. However, the Daniel 2 Scripture shows all... the five pieces of the beast statue together when the stone smites it upon its feet,
symbolizing the coming one-world government under the Antichrist.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. You mix up Daniel's dream with King Nebuchadnezzar's dream, PERIOD. All of which you have been indoctrinated with does not apply to Daniel's dream in it's entirety. His goes deeper and includes all the nations that would follow as a result of the influence of those which you mention. There is not one nation or rule not covered ahead of time in the scriptures. You just do not like it. But without a doubt I have been given the correct interpretation concerning Daniel's dream. Which covers even the emergence of America onto the scene.No kidding, that all that has been has brought forth what has come after.The Kingdoms of Daniel's dream have emerged due to the former kingdom's influences . But with every kingdoms demise is the rise of others akin to ,yet different from. Tell me God has not told it before hand and I will point out who the true LIAR is.
 
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There seems to be a rumble in the Rapture discussion forum, LOL!

CONTINUING WITH DANIEL'S DREAM......

THE THIRD KINGDOM: 6 After this I looked, and lo, another, like a leopard, with four wings of a bird on its back; and the beast had four heads; and dominion was given to it.

This is multiple but all the same in intent. It's sins are as obvious as the SPOTS on a Leopard but men seem to overlook that and tend to repeat these sins!
These are the sins of REICH'S .
proper noun. The former German state, most often used to refer to the Third Reich, the Nazi regime from 1933 to 1945. The First Reich was considered to be the Holy Roman Empire, 962–1806 (Using the term "Holy" loosely because obviously Holy does not do what was done by the hierarchy ) And their sins brought about more sin repeated by its Protestant offspring and all in the knowledge of the realm of Reich which seeks to subjugate by brutal force. VERY SAD! Second Reich the German Empire, 1871–1918, but neither of these terms is part of normal historical terminology.

Reich (/ˈraɪk/;[1] German: [ˈʁaɪç] is a German word literally meaning "realm".
Third Reich. Third Reich, official Nazi designation for the regime in Germany from January 1933 to May 1945, as the presumed successor of the medieval and early modern Holy Roman Empire of 800 to 1806 (the First Reich) and the German Empire of 1871 to 1918 (the Second Reich).

Fourth Reich: The Fourth Reich (German: Viertes Reich) is a hypothetical future German Reich that is the successor to Third Reich (1933–1945).

There will be a Fourth Reich for there are four heads on the Leopard, and God does not foretell a lie. Germany will support this Fourth Reich and it will have the same terrible carnage with great loss of life. It seems people do not remember the leopards spots. The past will repeat itself. The last evil dictator will be of German descent. ROTHSCHILD! This will help bring about the Fourth and final kingdom and actually support it and be a part of , hence fourth head= forth realm, a part of the FOURTH AND FINAL KINGDOM. This will give clarity to exactly what the clay and iron mix of the statue in king Nebuchadnezzar's dream. DANIEL"S DREAM IS DIFFERENT AND MORE DETAILED than that which was given to king Nebuchadnezzar.
The fourth Reich is the culmination of all things . Reich deals with the realm of the demonic destruction of life. The Fourth Reich will be the final and will be rooted in (EXTRATERRESTRIAL WORSHIP). Great war and terror is coming and it will be established within the fourth kingdom the ideology of the' Reich'. WAR and sexual perversion fostered by Wilhelm Reich will be part of it. Again the "Man Of Sin" will be a JEWISH MAN OF European roots (German in descent in this case and THE EDOM JEW .

This Fourth Reich sexual perversion is based on the German Psychology of:
THE MASS PSYCHOLOGY OF FASCISM

Wilhelm Reich


Writing in the years 1930-33, Reich applies his theories of human character-structure
to dissecting and analysing what he realised was the menacing social situation. Fascism,
he argues, does not spring exclusively either from the economic factors, or from the
activities of political leaders. Much rather, it is the collective expression of average
human beings, whose primary biological needs have been ruthlessly crushed by an
authoritarian and sexually inhibited society. Any form of organised mysticism, such as
the authoritarian family or church, feeds on the longings of the masses, he concludes,
and we must be forced to realise its potential destructiveness.

Banned by the Nazis The Mass Psychology of Fascism is a brilliant and prophetic
document which reveals Reich at his penetrating best.


Foreword

In the first English-language edition of The Mass Psychology of Fascism, which
appeared in 1946, Reich stated that his sex-economic theory, applied to the study of
fascism, had ‘stood the test of time’. Now, almost forty years after the publication of the
first edition in German, this new, more exact, translation is being presented with every
indication that it is not merely a work of historical interest but that it continues to ‘ stand
the test of time’. Actually, in the violent struggle that is taking place today between the
forces of repression and natural self-regulation, there is clear evidence that the validity of
Reich’s concepts is more firmly rooted than ever before. An attempt at a refutation of
their essential correctness must now contend with the knowledge of the physical orgone
energy, the common functioning principle applicable to all biological and social
phenomena. As extravagant as that may sound, and as fanciful as the discovery itself may
appear, it can be predicted that it will continue to resist irrational rejection derived from
rumouring, disinterest and mechanistic misinterpretation, as well as equally irrational
mystical acceptance or fragmentary selection, which arbitrarily draws the line between
what is or is not desirable. The latter problem is particularly troublesome because of the
rampant tendency to judge Reich’s work on the basis of one’s own narrow interests and
prejudices, without any capacity to follow into unknown realms of knowledge. For
example, there is much evidence that the dissident young, despite Reich’s warning not to
use his discoveries politically, are eager to grasp certain portions of his early work for
their own purposes, while simultaneously discounting its logical development into the
biological and physical realm. It is no more possible to separate Reich’s early work in the
mental hygiene movement and his study of human character structure from his later,
crucial discovery of the Life Energy than it is to separate the animal man from life itself.
If The Mass Psychology of Fascism is ever to be understood and utilized in a practical
way, if ‘thwarted’ life is ever to free itself and peace and love to become more than
empty slogans, the existence and functioning of the Life Energy must be acknowledged
and understood. No matter how much it is ridiculed and ailed at, it cannot be ignored if
man is ever to come to grips with the hitherto mysterious forces within himself.

This is the same sexual liberty (perversion of the Fallen Watchers and the practice of the destroyed of Noah's time). "And there is nothing new under the sun."

To be continued........
 
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That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. You mix up Daniel's dream with King Nebuchadnezzar's dream, PERIOD. All of which you have been indoctrinated with does not apply to Daniel's dream in it's entirety. His goes deeper and includes all the nations that would follow as a result of the influence of those which you mention. There is not one nation or rule not covered ahead of time in the scriptures. You just do not like it. But without a doubt I have been given the correct interpretation concerning Daniel's dream. Which covers even the emergence of America onto the scene.No kidding, that all that has been has brought forth what has come after.The Kingdoms of Daniel's dream have emerged due to the former kingdom's influences . But with every kingdoms demise is the rise of others akin to ,yet different from. Tell me God has not told it before hand and I will point out who the true LIAR is.

The beast of ten horns with the little horn being cast down per Daniel 7:8-14, and then Christ's everlasting Kingdom being setup is a direct link to the Daniel 2:41-45 events of the "stone" (Christ) coming to smite the beast of ten toes destroying it, and then Christ's everlasting Kingdom is setup forever.

That hard link between Daniel 2 and Daniel 7 with the final beast kingdom that is to manifest at Christ's return is very easy to grasp. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand it as written. Yet some will try and insert men's leaven into the Daniel Scripture, making it where brethren who should understand to not be able to recognize it. Judahizers crept into Christ's Church are especially guilty of that foul play.
 

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Connections in Christ's Revelation directly to the final beast kingdom of Daniel 2 and Daniel 7...

Rev 13:1-2
13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
KJV

There's the direct link to Daniel 7 that Jesus showed John, which is for the end of this world. In Revelation 17:8-12, we are shown those ten horns are ten kings that only come to power when the beast king of Rev.17:8, 10, 11, and 13 comes to power. These will then make war with The Lamb (Jesus) and He shall overcome them, setting up His everlasting kingdom, which is a direct link to both Daniel 2:41-45 and Daniel 7:8-14.
 

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"You also commented that "you can't make this stuff up". On this I DID comment, because movies as bizarre as this have been coming out of Hollywood for some time."

I am not discussing Hollywood spin on prophetic word which is unfolding.As bizarre as all this sounds it is not made up-prophetic word.
You see that? That thing disappearing into the distance? That's my point that just flew over your head and disappeared into the horizon.
Never mind. I'll leave you to your somber point. Have a good day.