A Woman Is Caught In Adultry

WalterandDebbie · Nov 18, 2019

Monday 11-18-19, Cheshvan 20, 5780 2nd. day of the weekly cycle, 57th. Fall day,

The story of the woman taken in adultery (John Eight:1-11) is one of the most popular and widely cited gospel stories today, yet this was not always so.

John Eight:1-11 King James Version (KJV)

A Woman Is Caught In Adultery:

1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.

2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Love always, Walter and Debbie

101G · Nov 18, 2019

GINOLJC, to all.
Agreed, this is one of the most popular and widely cited gospel stories today. the best part about it that I like is that she is "FREED" from her captors. talking about the knight in shining armor who rescue the damsel in distress, a "Perfect picture of Salvation".

and just one other thing about this story, John 8:9 "And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst."
for a long time this puzzle me, "how could someone be in the midst of only two?" .... remember all had left, and only the Lord Jesus and the woman remain. this bothered me for a long time until I read verse 16 and understood.

PICJAG.

101G · Nov 18, 2019

This is a good topic and deserve special attention. much to learn from this story.

PICJAG.

WalterandDebbie · Nov 18, 2019

101G said:
GINOLJC, to all.
Agreed, this is one of the most popular and widely cited gospel stories today. the best part about it that I like is that she is "FREED" from her captors. talking about the knight in shining armor who rescue the damsel in distress, a "Perfect picture of Salvation".

and just one other thing about this story, John 8:9 "And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst."
for a long time this puzzle me, "how could someone be in the midst of only two?" .... remember all had left, and only the Lord Jesus and the woman remain. this bothered me for a long time until I read verse 16 and understood.

PICJAG.

Amen, This same story is so popular today through my personal life as it bothered me for a long time until I understood better.

Walter

101G · Nov 18, 2019

firstthings1st. said:
Amen, This same story is so popular today through my personal life as it bothered me for a long time until I understood better.

Walter

yes, I have learned a lot from this story. not trying to get into your business, but I was wondering what bothered you in this story that gave you insight. now that's if you want to share.

PICJAG.

WalterandDebbie · Nov 18, 2019

101G said:
yes, I have learned a lot from this story. not trying to get into your business, but I was wondering what bothered you in this story that gave you insight. now that's if you want to share.

PICJAG.

Well, I had a spirit of lust and I did not know that at the time, and I was married at the time in sin with other married women, until, I forgot what year It was that I can remember by thinking of John 8:7-11, after that came to my mind it was time for me to stop being so sinful of keeping it as a secret of having so much pleasure.

Walter

101G · Nov 18, 2019

firstthings1st. said:
Well, I had a spirit of lust and I did not know that at the time, and I was married at the time in sin with other married women, until, I forgot what year It was that I can remember by thinking of John 8:7-11, after that came to my mind it was time for me to stop being so sinful of keeping it as a secret of having so much pleasure.

Walter

no problem, and I commend you for your honesty. for all have sinned and come short. but as the apostle said, Philippians 3:13 & 14 "Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before," 14 "I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."

we all have done somethings in the past, but as pastor T.D. Jakes said,"if it's buried, let it stay buried".

but yes, this injustice in these scriptures that we are speaking on, both parties have baggage. how can the pot (those who caught her) call the kettle black. for where was the man? one cannot commit the sin here by herself. so two wrongs don't mak a right. but yes, God is GREAT, we all learn that God is a "FORGIVING" God, in this case as well as all our cases. God forgives. THANK GOD.

PS, that took a lot of courage, I commend you. be blessed, and keep pressin toward the high calling in Christ Jesus and keep these scriptures in the fore front.

one of my favorite scriptures that hits this subject on the head here in John is Romans 14:13 "Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way."

PICJAG

WalterandDebbie · Nov 18, 2019

101G said:
no problem, and I commend you for your honesty. for all have sinned and come short. but as the apostle said, Philippians 3:13 & 14 "Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before," 14 "I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."

we all have done somethings in the past, but as pastor T.D. Jakes said,"if it's buried, let it stay buried".

but yes, this injustice in these scriptures that we are speaking on, both parties have baggage. how can the pot (those who caught her) call the kettle black. for where was the man? one cannot commit the sin here by herself. so two wrongs don't mak a right. but yes, God is GREAT, we all learn that God is a "FORGIVING" God, in this case as well as all our cases. God forgives. THANK GOD.

PS, that took a lot of courage, I commend you. be blessed, and keep pressin toward the high calling in Christ Jesus and keep these scriptures in the fore front.

one of my favorite scriptures that hits this subject on the head here in John is Romans 14:13 "Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way."

PICJAG

Amen, you be blessed also.

Waiting on him · Nov 18, 2019

firstthings1st. said:
Amen, you be blessed also.

What of the other individual committing adultery with her??

WalterandDebbie · Nov 18, 2019

Waiting on him said:
What of the other individual committing adultery with her??

I don't know, did you read anything on that story?

Waiting on him · Nov 18, 2019

firstthings1st. said:
I don't know, did you read anything on that story?

Assuming it was a man, why was he not brought forward also according to their mosaic law is what I’m asking?

Waiting on him · Nov 18, 2019

firstthings1st. said:
I don't know, did you read anything on that story?

Just always seemed odd to me.

WalterandDebbie · Nov 18, 2019

Waiting on him said:
Just always seemed odd to me.

If I find anything on that story I will mention it, maybe if you find anything let us know, that's if you want to share.

Ezra · Nov 18, 2019

Waiting on him said:
Assuming it was a man, why was he not brought forward also according to their mosaic law is what I’m asking?

it had nothing to do with committing adultery. it was all about tricking christ up . they could have cared less sort of like our politics of today and the kangaroo hearing they hold

Waiting on him · Nov 18, 2019

Ezra said:
it had nothing to do with committing adultery. it was all about tricking christ up . they could have cared less sort of like our politics of today and the kangaroo hearing they hold

I couldn’t agree more the whole thing stinks of being fabricated, the poor woman most likely was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but as always one sees the goodness and grace of our King through the maliciousness of His adversary.

Philip James · Nov 18, 2019

Waiting on him said:
but as always one sees the goodness and grace of our King through the maliciousness of His adversary.

Indeed!

And when he comes he will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and condemnation:

sin, because they do not believe in me;

righteousness, because I am going to the Father and you will no longer see me;

condemnation, because the ruler of this world has been condemned

Peace!

Enoch111 · Nov 18, 2019

Waiting on him said:
What of the other individual committing adultery with her??

He was supposed to get off scott free. Anyhow there is a great deal to be learned from this narrative, and it is there in Scripture to teach us many lessons.

Beware of the critics, translators and naysayers who claim that this narrative is not a genuine and integral part of Scripture. That nonsense has been refuted a long time ago, but it persists in the modern bible versions.

101G · Nov 18, 2019

Waiting on him said:
I couldn’t agree more the whole thing stinks of being fabricated, the poor woman most likely was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but as always one sees the goodness and grace of our King through the maliciousness of His adversary.

not saying that you're right or wrong, but it was no fabrication she was caught in adultery, but as said the test was to our Lord to see if would give a rightious judgment. for it took two to commit adultery, scripture, Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel."

so where was the man? or as one poster put it, "the other woman?"

(whatever), was it right to stone only the woman and not the other party involved? for they asked, John 8:4 "They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act." 5 "Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?". THEY LIED. and also in tempting our Lord they broke another cammand of the Law. Deuteronomy 17:6 & 7 "At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death." 7 "The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you."
so they was lying, and not witnessing. by bring her to our Lord, they, the scribes and Pharisees was also admitting that they was not fair or that they was unjust judges. they didn't have a case, for if she was caught in the very act, but they didn't have the two nessary witness for a conviction, listen, John 8:10 "When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?" our Lord made it very plain where is "THINE" accusers, here accusers is in the plural. thine accusers, meaning where are the two witness who could testify to the act?
so the whole thing was a sham and a SHOW.

PICJAG.

prashanthd · Nov 19, 2019

Waiting on him said:
What of the other individual committing adultery with her??

Waiting on him said:
I couldn’t agree more the whole thing stinks of being fabricated, the poor woman most likely was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but as always one sees the goodness and grace of our King through the maliciousness of His adversary.

If I were at that place looking at the crowd about to stone a woman, this thought would never occur in my mind!

The place of this narration was not the crime scene. It was at the temple where Jesus was teaching. The question was at Jesus and the woman was at gunpoint.

If the thought about the other individual matters then it can be guessed,
1. If two are seen by a crowd, one might escape and the other would get caught. Here a man has more chances of escape than a woman.
2. Nature of sin repeats itself. Sinful men find more pleasure torturing and killing a woman.
3. As it always happens, helpless woman is used to push the blame on an innocent man!
4. Looking at the crime scene can help understand better!

These thoughts aside, at a larger context, this is a spiritual warfare. Satan uses the Word of God against God Himself. God is Spirit.(Jn 4:24) The Law of God is Holy, just and Good.(Rom 7:13, Ps 19:7,8). The Law of God is spiritual.(Rom 7:14)

The point of view in this narration is Jesus. The question was at God!

"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth" Rom 10:4

God is Righteous.

All glory to God.

WalterandDebbie · Nov 19, 2019

101G said:
not saying that you're right or wrong, but it was no fabrication she was caught in adultery, but as said the test was to our Lord to see if would give a rightious judgment. for it took two to commit adultery, scripture, Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel."

so where was the man? or as one poster put it, "the other woman?" (whatever), was it right to stone only the woman and not the other party involved? for they asked, John 8:4 "They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act." 5 "Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?". THEY LIED. and also in tempting our Lord they broke another cammand of the Law. Deuteronomy 17:6 & 7 "At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death." 7 "The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you."
so they was lying, and not witnessing. by bring her to our Lord, they, the scribes and Pharisees was also admitting that they was not fair or that they was unjust judges. they didn't have a case, for if she was caught in the very act, but they didn't have the two nessary witness for a conviction, listen, John 8:10 "When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?" our Lord made it very plain where is "THINE" accusers, here accusers is in the plural. thine accusers, meaning where are the two witness who could testify to the act?
so the whole thing was a sham and a SHOW.

PICJAG.

@101G, I was thinking about that story in John 8:9 of what you were saying in the scriptures, in which to me is related, but did you read these commentaries about the story ?

John 8:9 - When they heard it,... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary

After reading the above link, what are your thoughts ? if you want to share.

Walter

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