“Burn the ships”

VictoryinJesus · Nov 13, 2019

Not sure whether this should be under praise or prayer needed...both maybe. Maybe it is nothing but have heard the song “burn the ships” quite a few times and never really paid attention to the words. It wasn’t until the other day one line stood out “flush the pills”...Guess this could also be considered a testimony. I’ve been on an antidepressant since my early twenties. Nearly thirty years of taking it every day and it never really bothered me until about four years ago. I started to notice I felt dead and cold from it and started not taking it some days no longer content with it ...those were my good days while not taking it as I seemed to come alive again. There came a point where I decided to go off it completely and did well for the first couple weeks until something in my brain begin either to readjust or deteriorate, not sure which. Terrified, I started taking the antidepressant again. It has been years now and I still purposely don’t take them for a span of days to have life and clarity. Hating and dreading the days I take them and what they produce in me which is agitation and hopelessness. to the point of not even wanting to mention God as it all seems pointless. I know that sounds weird while describing an antidepressant. But it has gotten to where my husband can tell when I’m taking it again just by my snapping at him. Ive noticed grinding my teeth in irritation. I’m a totally different person without it but I’m scared because the doctors said it is also for pain management and necessary for helping with the MS. it was for panic attacks so what if after stopping for good, they come back. coming to the point of needing to decide: Take it full time and be numb and forget the good days where (literally) I can breathe again...or flush it and risk worse than numb. Can say it seems I hear Him very little on the days I take it as I pull away into being numb and void of caring. Asking for prayer...nearly thirty years is a long time to play with a drug. So yeah, this song seems to be saying something maybe I need to hear and possibly others.

“So long to shame, walk through the sorrow
Out of the fire into tomorrow
So flush the pills, face the fear
Feel the wave disappear
We're comin' clear, we're born again
Our hopeful lungs can breathe again
Oh, we can breathe again”

Don't let it arrest you
This fear is fear of fallin' again
^ “arrest” taking captive into bondage. Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Story behind “burn the ships”
Burn The Ship was born from an idea that originated in 1519. That year, Hernán Cortés set sail to Veracruz, Mexico with his crew. ... As legend has it, Cortez had the men burn their ships, leaving no option but to press on! Their ability to retreat to their previous way of life was gone; their safety net had been removed.

never heard of Hernán Cortés ...maybe he did harm ...

marks · Nov 13, 2019

Hi ViJ,

So it turns out that antidepressants can cause symptoms of depression if taken by someone who does not need them.

My sister took antidepressants for many years, but she began to notice the same thing, the pills made her worse. She talked to her doctor and that's what they told her.

My doctor wants me to take Cymbalta for both depression and pain management, but I don't want to mess with my neurotransmitters, so I deal with it. But sometimes I don't want to. I get it.

You may benefit from a lower dose, or a different drug entirely. Something to pray about, naturally!

Having been in some pretty deep depression myself I know this is no laughing matter. But I know God will guide us both.

Much love!

VictoryinJesus · Nov 13, 2019

marks said:
Hi ViJ,

So it turns out that antidepressants can cause symptoms of depression if taken by someone who does not need them.

My sister took antidepressants for many years, but she began to notice the same thing, the pills made her worse. She talked to her doctor and that's what they told her.

My doctor wants me to take Cymbalta for both depression and pain management, but I don't want to mess with my neurotransmitters, so I deal with it. But sometimes I don't want to. I get it.

You may benefit from a lower dose, or a different drug entirely. Something to pray about, naturally!

Having been in some pretty deep depression myself I know this is no laughing matter. But I know God will guide us both.

Much love!

thank you. I’m already on the lowest dose so reducing isn’t really an option. A different one, maybe. Completely understand why you don’t want to mess with your neurotransmitters. To clarify I’m not against antidepressant or medicine. Our granddaughter just had a bad case of croup(guess that is how it is spelled)...was very grateful for the medicine they gave her to make it possible for her to breathe. But the antidepressant for me only mildly sedated the panic attacks the entire time I’ve been on it. God has been more relief there. Was convinced it was a chemical imbalance and for years got upset when someone suggested it was a mind thing...in my case it was a mind thing as I’ve seen it drastically gone. Only hope it stays that way. Will pray over maybe changing to a different one.

Pearl · Nov 13, 2019

I was on tranquilisers - Valium - right up until I accepted Jesus. Even during my pregnancy I took them. Depression made me feel like I was in a glass tube; I could see out but nobody could see in or reach me. Since I became born again forty two years ago I haven't need a single one. Praise God for his deliverance.

Enoch111 · Nov 13, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
It wasn’t until the other day one line stood out “flush the pills”...Guess this could also be considered a testimony.

Well just put that into practice and stick with it.

Prayer Warrior · Nov 13, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
Not sure whether this should be under praise or prayer needed...both maybe. Maybe it is nothing but have heard the song “burn the ships” quite a few times and never really paid attention to the words. It wasn’t until the other day one line stood out “flush the pills”...Guess this could also be considered a testimony. I’ve been on an antidepressant since my early twenties. Nearly thirty years of taking it every day and it never really bothered me until about four years ago. I started to notice I felt dead and cold from it and started not taking it some days no longer content with it ...those were my good days while not taking it as I seemed to come alive again. There came a point where I decided to go off it completely and did well for the first couple weeks until something in my brain begin either to readjust or deteriorate, not sure which. Terrified, I started taking the antidepressant again. It has been years now and I still purposely don’t take them for a span of days to have life and clarity. Hating and dreading the days I take them and what they produce in me which is agitation and hopelessness. to the point of not even wanting to mention God as it all seems pointless. I know that sounds weird while describing an antidepressant. But it has gotten to where my husband can tell when I’m taking it again just by my snapping at him. Ive noticed grinding my teeth in irritation. I’m a totally different person without it but I’m scared because the doctors said it is also for pain management and necessary for helping with the MS. it was for panic attacks so what if after stopping for good, they come back. coming to the point of needing to decide: Take it full time and be numb and forget the good days where (literally) I can breathe again...or flush it and risk worse than numb. Can say it seems I hear Him very little on the days I take it as I pull away into being numb and void of caring. Asking for prayer...nearly thirty years is a long time to play with a drug. So yeah, this song seems to be saying something maybe I need to hear and possibly others.

“So long to shame, walk through the sorrow
Out of the fire into tomorrow
So flush the pills, face the fear
Feel the wave disappear
We're comin' clear, we're born again
Our hopeful lungs can breathe again
Oh, we can breathe again”

Don't let it arrest you
This fear is fear of fallin' again
^ “arrest” taking captive into bondage. Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Story behind “burn the ships”
Burn The Ship was born from an idea that originated in 1519. That year, Hernán Cortés set sail to Veracruz, Mexico with his crew. ... As legend has it, Cortez had the men burn their ships, leaving no option but to press on! Their ability to retreat to their previous way of life was gone; their safety net had been removed.

never heard of Hernán Cortés ...maybe he did harm ...

Thanks for sharing your struggle with us. I pray that God will give you wisdom in this matter and His peace.

Just to let you know a little about my struggles, one of my main memories of childhood is that of depression. I dealt with it quite a bit and looking back, I had panic attacks; although, we didn't call them that back in the day.

When I was in college, God saved me, but the panic attacks continued. In fact, they even worsened to the point that I was convinced that I wasn't saved and that God would never save me. So, at that point, I was in a constant state of panic.

I talked to my pastor's wife, and she looked me in eye and said forcefully, "That's the devil." She had dealt with something similar. She gave me a copy of the Warfare Prayer by Victor Matthews and told me to pray through it everyday. I did this every time I had an attack, which was many times a day at that point.

It took some time, but the depression and panic attacks went! Not that I never feel depressed, but since that time, I have rarely been debilitated by depression. If you're interested in the Warfare Prayer, you can find it here with some other helps:

Spiritual Warfare Prayer | Cru

Blessings!

Truth · Nov 13, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
So yeah, this song seems to be saying something maybe I need to hear and possibly others.

All I can say to this is that I to have been delivered from willful misuse of street drugs, nothing is impossible for Our Savior! We are all Individuals there are not two of us alike, so it is difficult to understand someone's else's struggles!
This needs to be given over to Prayer in the body of believer's and I encourage others to lift Vic up before the Throne of Grace!
Shalom, in the name of Yashua [Jesus]

Philip James · Nov 13, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
Asking for prayer...nearly thirty years is a long time to play with a drug. So yeah, this song seems to be saying something maybe I need to hear and possibly others.

My heart broke for you sister on reading this.
I have a brother who is bipolar and he is just not the same on his meds, but his meds are preferable to his manic/depressive episodes..
Took years with doctors tweaking his meds to get a dosage that controlled his condition and that didnt make him so numb that he could atill live with it.

You will be in my prayers, and I'll asl Br. Andre to pray for you as well.

Offer your suffering in union with Christ for those you love.

May the peace and love of Christ fill you!

Helen · Nov 13, 2019

Prayer Warrior said:
Thanks for sharing your struggle with us. I pray that God will give you wisdom in this matter and His peace.

Just to let you know a little about my struggles, one of my main memories of childhood is that of depression. I dealt with it quite a bit and looking back, I had panic many attacks; although, we didn't call them that back in the day.

When I was in college, God saved me, but the panic attacks continued. In fact, they even worsened to the point that I was convinced that I wasn't saved and that God would never save me. So, at that point, I was in a state of constant panic.

I talked to my pastor's wife, and she looked me in eye and said forcefully, "That's the devil." She had dealt with something similar. She gave me a copy of the Warfare Prayer by Victor Matthews and told me to pray through it everyday. I did this every time I had an attack, which was many times a day at that point.

It took some time, but the depression and panic attacks went! Not that I never feel depressed, but since that time, I have rarely been debilitated by depression. If you're interested in the Warfare Prayer, you can find it here with some other helps:

Spiritual Warfare Prayer | Cru

Blessings!

Thank you...I both copied and then bookmarked it. And sent it to my friend who is fighting liver cancer.

Prayer Warrior · Nov 13, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
Thank you...I both copied and then bookmarked it. And sent it to my friend who is fighting liver cancer.

I'm sorry to hear this about your friend. I pray that they will have God's peace....

VictoryinJesus · Nov 14, 2019

Truth said:
All I can say to this is that I to have been delivered from willful misuse of street drugs, nothing is impossible for Our Savior! We are all Individuals there are not two of us alike, so it is difficult to understand someone's else's struggles!
This needs to be given over to Prayer in the body of believer's and I encourage others to lift Vic up before the Throne of Grace!
Shalom, in the name of Yashua [Jesus]

thank you, Went back about a mammogram yesterday and they found a mass. They are taking a biopsy today. Still no antidepressant and considering not taking it again. He has given me two amazing things among many a chance to sow something new and better which is Him. And and the promise that I’m a daughter. ALL of y’all’s kind words here came at the best time of needing encouragement and prayers. Thanks again.

bbyrd009 · Nov 14, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
Not sure whether this should be under praise or prayer needed...both maybe. Maybe it is nothing but have heard the song “burn the ships” quite a few times and never really paid attention to the words. It wasn’t until the other day one line stood out “flush the pills”...Guess this could also be considered a testimony. I’ve been on an antidepressant since my early twenties. Nearly thirty years of taking it every day and it never really bothered me until about four years ago. I started to notice I felt dead and cold from it and started not taking it some days no longer content with it ...those were my good days while not taking it as I seemed to come alive again. There came a point where I decided to go off it completely and did well for the first couple weeks until something in my brain begin either to readjust or deteriorate, not sure which. Terrified, I started taking the antidepressant again. It has been years now and I still purposely don’t take them for a span of days to have life and clarity. Hating and dreading the days I take them and what they produce in me which is agitation and hopelessness. to the point of not even wanting to mention God as it all seems pointless. I know that sounds weird while describing an antidepressant. But it has gotten to where my husband can tell when I’m taking it again just by my snapping at him. Ive noticed grinding my teeth in irritation. I’m a totally different person without it but I’m scared because the doctors said it is also for pain management and necessary for helping with the MS. it was for panic attacks so what if after stopping for good, they come back. coming to the point of needing to decide: Take it full time and be numb and forget the good days where (literally) I can breathe again...or flush it and risk worse than numb. Can say it seems I hear Him very little on the days I take it as I pull away into being numb and void of caring. Asking for prayer...nearly thirty years is a long time to play with a drug. So yeah, this song seems to be saying something maybe I need to hear and possibly others.

“So long to shame, walk through the sorrow
Out of the fire into tomorrow
So flush the pills, face the fear
Feel the wave disappear
We're comin' clear, we're born again
Our hopeful lungs can breathe again
Oh, we can breathe again”

Don't let it arrest you
This fear is fear of fallin' again
^ “arrest” taking captive into bondage. Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Story behind “burn the ships”
Burn The Ship was born from an idea that originated in 1519. That year, Hernán Cortés set sail to Veracruz, Mexico with his crew. ... As legend has it, Cortez had the men burn their ships, leaving no option but to press on! Their ability to retreat to their previous way of life was gone; their safety net had been removed.

never heard of Hernán Cortés ...maybe he did harm ...

VictoryinJesus said:
Not sure whether this should be under praise or prayer needed...both maybe. Maybe it is nothing but have heard the song “burn the ships” quite a few times and never really paid attention to the words. It wasn’t until the other day one line stood out “flush the pills”...Guess this could also be considered a testimony. I’ve been on an antidepressant since my early twenties. Nearly thirty years of taking it every day and it never really bothered me until about four years ago. I started to notice I felt dead and cold from it and started not taking it some days no longer content with it ...those were my good days while not taking it as I seemed to come alive again. There came a point where I decided to go off it completely and did well for the first couple weeks until something in my brain begin either to readjust or deteriorate, not sure which. Terrified, I started taking the antidepressant again. It has been years now and I still purposely don’t take them for a span of days to have life and clarity. Hating and dreading the days I take them and what they produce in me which is agitation and hopelessness. to the point of not even wanting to mention God as it all seems pointless. I know that sounds weird while describing an antidepressant. But it has gotten to where my husband can tell when I’m taking it again just by my snapping at him. Ive noticed grinding my teeth in irritation. I’m a totally different person without it but I’m scared because the doctors said it is also for pain management and necessary for helping with the MS. it was for panic attacks so what if after stopping for good, they come back. coming to the point of needing to decide: Take it full time and be numb and forget the good days where (literally) I can breathe again...or flush it and risk worse than numb. Can say it seems I hear Him very little on the days I take it as I pull away into being numb and void of caring. Asking for prayer...nearly thirty years is a long time to play with a drug. So yeah, this song seems to be saying something maybe I need to hear and possibly others.

“So long to shame, walk through the sorrow
Out of the fire into tomorrow
So flush the pills, face the fear
Feel the wave disappear
We're comin' clear, we're born again
Our hopeful lungs can breathe again
Oh, we can breathe again”

Don't let it arrest you
This fear is fear of fallin' again
^ “arrest” taking captive into bondage. Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Story behind “burn the ships”
Burn The Ship was born from an idea that originated in 1519. That year, Hernán Cortés set sail to Veracruz, Mexico with his crew. ... As legend has it, Cortez had the men burn their ships, leaving no option but to press on! Their ability to retreat to their previous way of life was gone; their safety net had been removed.
the
never heard of Hernán Cortés ...maybe he did harm ...

ah. ive rehabbed a few off of psychotropics, fwiw smoke or eat CBD for the withdrawal at least, only thing non Rx i know of that is effective, and kratom is great for pain, and natural besides. best of luck bro

VictoryinJesus said:
thank you, Went back about a mammogram yesterday and they found a mass. They are taking a biopsy today. Still no antidepressant and considering not taking it again. He has given me two amazing things among many a chance to sow something new and better which is Him. And and the promise that I’m a daughter. ALL of y’all’s kind words here came at the best time of needing encouragement and prayers. Thanks again.

mammograms cause breast cancer, apparently, and vitamin d deficiency is a better marker for breast cancer than a mammogram i guess

so now you are acidic i guess, if you pulp a whole lemon every morning and preferably drink the whole thing down with some honey or even sugar, whatever to get it down, strain it if you have to, this will cause an alkyline reaction in your body, cancer cannot handle alkyline. Why an acid lemon causes an alkyline reaction ha Gods ways are just not ours i guess?

Pearl · Nov 14, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
thank you, Went back about a mammogram yesterday and they found a mass. They are taking a biopsy today. Still no antidepressant and considering not taking it again. He has given me two amazing things among many a chance to sow something new and better which is Him. And and the promise that I’m a daughter. ALL of y’all’s kind words here came at the best time of needing encouragement and prayers. Thanks again.

Many years ago I went into hospital to have a breast lump removed and before he left me my husband prayed for me once again. I undressed got in the bed and waited for my pre-med. When they came to give it to me they couldn't find the lump and I was discharged and had to phone my husband to come back and collect me. Amazing grace.

bbyrd009 · Nov 14, 2019

biopsy arg pls run ok. lemons. Drs arg too jesus

Enoch111 · Nov 14, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
Maybe it is nothing but have heard the song “burn the ships” quite a few times and never really paid attention to the words.

Another expression is to *burn your bridges* -- which means there is no going back. Perhaps you could purchase a model bridge made out of wood, and then literally burn it in your backyard with your family watching. There were new converts in Ephesus who burned their expensive occultic books in their front yards in Acts 19. That was definitely burning their bridges, since a lot of cash went up in flames.

farouk · Nov 15, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
thank you, Went back about a mammogram yesterday and they found a mass. They are taking a biopsy today. Still no antidepressant and considering not taking it again. He has given me two amazing things among many a chance to sow something new and better which is Him. And and the promise that I’m a daughter. ALL of y’all’s kind words here came at the best time of needing encouragement and prayers. Thanks again.

Thinking of you guys; it's something that families face together; praying.

farouk · Nov 19, 2019

@VictoryinJesus Hoping your results are good...

VictoryinJesus · Nov 19, 2019

farouk said:
@VictoryinJesus Hoping your results are good...

Thank you. Benign! Negative for malignancy.

farouk · Nov 19, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
Thank you. Benign! Negative for malignancy.

Wonderful answer to prayer! 1 Thess. 5.25

VictoryinJesus · Nov 19, 2019

farouk said:
Wonderful answer to prayer! 1 Thess. 5.25

1 Thessalonians 5:25 Brethren, pray for us.

Hebrews 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

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