Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

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Hey CP,

I don't believe I used the term "19th century", -- which would pertain the events of the 1800's. I believe I specifically cited the 1900's.

Secondly, I gave specific examples typical of: Book 19, Chapter 44 = 19-44 Holocaust; Book 19, Chapter 48 = 19-48 International Recognition of the State of Israel. But if this is too complicated for you, then maybe you should simply keep on singing "Jesus Loves Me" over and over and over and over, -- like we do in church! :)

Bobby Jo
OKAAAY. I wasn't being argumentative . I know sometimes when typing out our thoughts, people may miss the emotion behind it.
I do and will sing that and that goes for any Jew as well. I am not going to get into the deeply rooted stuff let's just say the weeds have been planted closely to the wheat. And also there were 17,000, 000 of gentiles killed too. Not to mention that they too were freed from concentration camps. Point: The whole thing was an ugly evil mess. Sadly we are told an even greater tribulation will come that has not been since the beginning of the earth to now. are we going to have a WORLD WAR III mastered mind again by the "builders" . You do know the Rothschilds have funded both sides of every war since even WWI don't you? This is a fact. That I will post instead of you just having to take my word for it. Even before that gave, assisted England concerning funding .You know history is important to learn , from all perspectives involved and in between the lines of those perspective is the root and truth of the matter.

Tanakh — Tehillim 44
To the choirmaster. A Maskil of the Sons of Korah.
We have heard with our ears, O God, our fathers have told us, what deeds thou didst perform in their days, in the days of old: thou with thy own hand didst drive out the nations, but them thou didst plant; thou didst afflict the peoples, but them thou didst set free; for not by their own sword did they win the land, nor did their own arm give them victory; but thy right hand, and thy arm, and the light of thy countenance; for thou didst delight in them.

Thou art my King and my God, who ordainest victories for Jacob.

Through thee we push down our foes; through thy name we tread down our assailants.

For not in my bow do I trust, nor can my sword save me.

But thou hast saved us from our foes, and hast put to confusion those who hate us.

In God we have boasted continually, and we will give thanks to thy name for ever. [Selah] Yet thou hast cast us off and abased us, and hast not gone out with our armies.

Thou hast made us turn back from the foe; and our enemies have gotten spoil.

Thou hast made us like sheep for slaughter, and hast scattered us among the nations.

Thou hast sold thy people for a trifle, demanding no high price for them.

Thou hast made us the taunt of our neighbors, the derision and scorn of those about us.

Thou hast made us a byword among the nations, a laughingstock among the peoples.

All day long my disgrace is before me, and shame has covered my face, at the words of the taunters and revilers, at the sight of the enemy and the avenger.

All this has come upon us, though we have not forgotten thee, or been false to thy covenant.

Our heart has not turned back, nor have our steps departed from thy way, that thou shouldst have broken us in the place of jackals, and covered us with deep darkness.

If we had forgotten the name of our God, or spread forth our hands to a strange god, would not God discover this? For he knows the secrets of the heart.

Nay, for thy sake we are slain all the day long, and accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Rouse thyself! Why sleepest thou, O Lord? Awake! Do not cast us off for ever!

Why dost thou hide thy face? Why dost thou forget our affliction and oppression?

For our soul is bowed down to the dust; our body cleaves to the ground. [ (Psalms 44:27) Rise up, come to our help! Deliver us for the sake of thy steadfast love! ]
 
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... there were 17,000, 000 of gentiles killed too. ...

Perhaps the "thinking-required" is too great to conceive that the Psalms is prophetic for the 1900's, Chapter for year. So you might be better of with your HIRELING telling you what you need to know, -- rather than receiving from GOD (- and through the Scriptures -) first hand.

Jeremiah 33:3 Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things which you have not known.

Good Luck,
Bobby Jo
 

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Perhaps the "thinking-required" is too great to conceive that the Psalms is prophetic for the 1900's, Chapter for year. So you might be better of with your HIRELING telling you what you need to know, -- rather than receiving from GOD (- and through the Scriptures -) first hand.

Jeremiah 33:3 Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things which you have not known.

Good Luck,
Bobby Jo
Seriously dude. No one is starting a fight with you. Is this even about the conversation we are having? Anyway, have a nice day, evening whatever , God Bless!
 

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Something strange happened to me recently. I have dialogue concerning all this, everywhere. i have learned that, our system , computer monitoring when you access certain websites, and our phones , Our conversations have what the experts call "trigger words'. You know how all is connected on the web and satellites and all that techi stuff , well there are trigger words that cause the systems established to collect data. Even some forums actually are set up as Christian forums by the government to see what the narrative is of Christians. also to compile the meaning of scriptures that otherwise would not be understood by godless men. They actually rely on those who are actually in the 'know' of prophecy. but what they do not realize is, they are the last to know like Herod. And by then the Male Child is already born.
In Israel the TRUMP of the beginning of the Trumpets has already sounded.

Amos 3:
Witnesses Against Israel
…5Does a bird land in a snare where no bait has been set? Does a trap spring from the ground when it has nothing to catch? 6If a trumpet sounds in a city, will the people not tremble? If calamity comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it? 7Surely the Lord GOD does nothing without revealing His plan to His servants the prophets.…

See I am trembling. The Trumpet has sounded in Jerusalem and the world for that matter;
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See, before a calamity the trump of the trumpet is sounded. In this case , only the servants of God heard it. while everyone else is asleep, they already got today's news ahead of time. we are not in a good place because this trump of the beginning of the trumpets to sound will herald in desolation . Desolation is decreed to the end. Pray.
Daniel 12:9
Michael's Deliverance and the End Times
…9“Go on your way, Daniel,” he replied, “for the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end. 10Many will be purified, made spotless, and refined, but the wicked will continue to act wickedly. None of the wicked will understand, but the wise will understand. 11And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days.…

The daily sacrificed to be abolished , is the supper of the Lord, that we celebrate . It is the supper that professes the DEATH OF THE LORD until HE RETURNS.

Oh , the weird thing that happened to me. I was on a forum and was being reprimanded for telling long stories= my long post, NOT IN HERE but elsewhere at which point I was banned. The next day I had three political movement signs on my lawn. Two said "if you are an illegal citizen there is a place for you". In THOSE EXACT WORDS. The third said "STOP THE STORIES" it had buildings on it . It is for preventing over development , some movement group. But my lawn was the only one to have them . and this coincided with a forum I was on where I was told to STOP THE STORIES ! Coincidence? You decide.
 
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Perhaps the "thinking-required" is too great to conceive that the Psalms is prophetic for the 1900's, Chapter for year. So you might be better of with your HIRELING telling you what you need to know, -- rather than receiving from GOD (- and through the Scriptures -) first hand.

Jeremiah 33:3 Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things which you have not known.

Good Luck,
Bobby Jo
So you saying you the only one who hears from God?

man and you call others crazy
 

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Seriously dude. No one is starting a fight with you. Is this even about the conversation we are having? Anyway, have a nice day, evening whatever , God Bless!
He doesn’t want to hear from anyone other than who rubber stamps his views Covenant
 
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I don't believe our conversation was about some Deep State organizaion. We were discussing the Prophetic Psalms. If you want to look at the world, then please feel free. If you want to hear from GOD, then please do.

Bobby Jo
And He said look at the world. Hence, be in the world but not of it. As for the Psalms I understand them completely. I have no problem with the Word of God. ISRAEL! -"May God prevail" !
 

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I have seen this before. I have said nothing to you. You are responding to the wrong person.
Sorry Bobby was attacking and I thought it was him

what’s up here? Lot of dissension

you can’t have your own views or ya get attacked
 

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OKAAAY. I wasn't being argumentative . I know sometimes when typing out our thoughts, people may miss the emotion behind it.
I do and will sing that and that goes for any Jew as well. I am not going to get into the deeply rooted stuff let's just say the weeds have been planted closely to the wheat. And also there were 17,000, 000 of gentiles killed too. Not to mention that they too were freed from concentration camps. Point: The whole thing was an ugly evil mess. Sadly we are told an even greater tribulation will come that has not been since the beginning of the earth to now. are we going to have a WORLD WAR III mastered mind again by the "builders" . You do know the Rothschilds have funded both sides of every war since even WWI don't you? This is a fact. That I will post instead of you just having to take my word for it. Even before that gave, assisted England concerning funding .You know history is important to learn , from all perspectives involved and in between the lines of those perspective is the root and truth of the matter.

Tanakh — Tehillim 44
To the choirmaster. A Maskil of the Sons of Korah.
We have heard with our ears, O God, our fathers have told us, what deeds thou didst perform in their days, in the days of old: thou with thy own hand didst drive out the nations, but them thou didst plant; thou didst afflict the peoples, but them thou didst set free; for not by their own sword did they win the land, nor did their own arm give them victory; but thy right hand, and thy arm, and the light of thy countenance; for thou didst delight in them.

Thou art my King and my God, who ordainest victories for Jacob.

Through thee we push down our foes; through thy name we tread down our assailants.

For not in my bow do I trust, nor can my sword save me.

But thou hast saved us from our foes, and hast put to confusion those who hate us.

In God we have boasted continually, and we will give thanks to thy name for ever. [Selah] Yet thou hast cast us off and abased us, and hast not gone out with our armies.

Thou hast made us turn back from the foe; and our enemies have gotten spoil.

Thou hast made us like sheep for slaughter, and hast scattered us among the nations.

Thou hast sold thy people for a trifle, demanding no high price for them.

Thou hast made us the taunt of our neighbors, the derision and scorn of those about us.

Thou hast made us a byword among the nations, a laughingstock among the peoples.

All day long my disgrace is before me, and shame has covered my face, at the words of the taunters and revilers, at the sight of the enemy and the avenger.

All this has come upon us, though we have not forgotten thee, or been false to thy covenant.

Our heart has not turned back, nor have our steps departed from thy way, that thou shouldst have broken us in the place of jackals, and covered us with deep darkness.

If we had forgotten the name of our God, or spread forth our hands to a strange god, would not God discover this? For he knows the secrets of the heart.

Nay, for thy sake we are slain all the day long, and accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Rouse thyself! Why sleepest thou, O Lord? Awake! Do not cast us off for ever!

Why dost thou hide thy face? Why dost thou forget our affliction and oppression?

For our soul is bowed down to the dust; our body cleaves to the ground. [ (Psalms 44:27) Rise up, come to our help! Deliver us for the sake of thy steadfast love! ][/QUOTE

Ya can’t think your own thoughts here
 
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