Do people add what they what to see and take away God’s judgment?

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Copper25

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Jeremiah 14:13) Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.Jeremiah 14:14) Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.(Revelation 22:18-19) “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy in this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will strike him with the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” How many fail to heed this severe warning; Listen this is the reason why so many teachers and preachers of modern day Christianity teach errors and falsehood and deceitfulness. This is why there is so much damnable heresy floating in the world deceiving many. People will either add in context speaking that which isn’t there or they will look at and see only what they want to see deleting vital details and failing to heed them. How can one hold on to the truth if it has been tainted, leavened, and distorted from its context and meaning, one can’t, but instead will end up swaying to falsehood and crookedness. (Mark 8:15) “Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.” Now considering Jesus said that to the twelve disciples, how much more can that be applied to us in a society where the truth is shunned, liberation is hidden and needs to be revived, in a day where the church is (Revelation 3:1)“dead” spiritually sitting waiting passively rather that uniting, bound with divisions, cults and all of the such. This is it, the truth is found in the bible, the word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit , and given to the world, serving most of all as a warning, while offering hope of salvation unto all mankind, the bible line after line, verse after verse explains what happens to evildoers, the wicked, and the works of iniquity. This is the side of the bible many don’t want to touch because they can’t handle it or altogether choose not to hear it, erring making a down play on the strictness and expectations that God has for us. God’s mercy endureth forever, but that applies specifically for those that obey! (Psalm 103:17) “But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children” Does the Lord’s mercy extend to those that choose to disobey him, yes, (Ezekiel 18:23) “Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?” But God’s mercy only goes so far with them that choose rebellion and don’t come back reaching for God and CHOOSE not to repent! Look at the flood of Noah’s day. Look at Sodom and Gomorrah, Look at Jeremiah’s day where Israel was destroyed (though that was his chosen people, yet because of their rebellion, they were brought to nothing, save a remnant of people). God does not like iniquity and (Psalm 5:5) “The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.” Now is it a coincidence that the Lord Jesus said (Matthew 7:23) “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” and (Matthew 13:41-42) “The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” Now the Father and the Son are against them that do evil, as it is written, (1 Peter 3:12) “For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.” Remember the trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, if the Father and Son be against iniquity, then wouldn’t the Holy Spirit be against iniquity as well, while we are not perfect, would the Holy Spirit dwell in a defiled temple, I think not, as it is written (1 Corinthians 3:17) “If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy”. Why do you think that Christ made such a point as to point of the white garment to the Church of Laodicea and points out that few in the Church of Sardis did not defile their garments. Look, is preaching obedience preaching legalism, I think not for the Lord declared himself that he wants obedience of us, (Luke 6:46) “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
 

epistemaniac

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some people do... some people don't... is the obvious answer to the question.... importantly, and this does not necessarily apply to you, the writer of the OP, but it is not necessarily the case that those who "add and take away" are those with whom you disagree.... a common tactic is to accuse those who do not interpret the scriptures in various places the same way of adding or subtracting..... but disagreement does not automatically make the person you are disagreeing with "guilty" of adding or subtracting...blessings,ken-
 

excepttruth

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Copper25: (Revelation 22:18-19) “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy in this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will strike him with the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” First of all this Quote of (Rev. 22:18-19) is refuring to that book that was just written by John. It pertains to the book of Revalation and it's Prophecies. For the Bible in the content that we have now, had not been collected together. It's warning was to those who would read the book of Revalation of God. For at that time there were only seporate letters of the apostles. Therefore, Rev. 22: 18-19 dose not pertain to to the letters of the Apostles in which we collectivly call the New Testement. So I am also in agreement with epistemaniac So that those who use this tactic to accuse those who do not interpret the scriptures in various places,in disagreement with you, does not automatically make the person you are disagreeing with "guilty" of adding or subtracting... For all inturpreting is a after thought to that which is written. Again, the context of warning in these verses. Are to those who would re-write that which was revealed by God and written by John.
 

Jordan

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Copper25: (Revelation 22:18-19) “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy in this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will strike him with the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” First of all this Quote of (Rev. 22:18-19) is refuring to that book that was just written by John. It pertains to the book of Revalation and it's Prophecies. For the Bible in the content that we have now, had not been collected together. It's warning was to those who would read the book of Revalation of God. For at that time there were only seporate letters of the apostles. Therefore, Rev. 22: 18-19 dose not pertain to to the letters of the Apostles in which we collectivly call the New Testement. So I am also in agreement with epistemaniac So that those who use this tactic to accuse those who do not interpret the scriptures in various places,in disagreement with you, does not automatically make the person you are disagreeing with "guilty" of adding or subtracting... For all inturpreting is a after thought to that which is written. Again, the context of warning in these verses. Are to those who would re-write that which was revealed by God and written by John.
No it's not just Revelation, it's the whole bible.Revelation 22:18 - For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book (G975), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book (G975):G975 - Biblion1) a small book, a scroll, a written document2) a sheet on which something has been writtena) a bill of divorcementa diminutive of G976975. biblion bib-lee'-on a diminutive of 976; a roll:--bill, book, scroll, writing.Revelation 22:19 -And if any man shall take away from the words of the book (G976) of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book (G976) of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book (G975).G976 - biblos1) a written book, a roll, a scroll976. biblos bib'-los properly, the inner bark of the papyrus plant, i.e. (by implication) a sheet or scroll of writing:--book.In which our english word Bible came from these Greek Words... Which means BOOK!And I can document what I said with scriptures.
 

Jordan

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Sorry Jordan, No it dosn't
Deuteronomy 4:2 - Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you....Proverbs 30:6 - Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar....Revelation 22:18 - For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:Revelation 22:19 - And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book....Matthew 24:35 - Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. (also Mark 13:31, Luke 21:33)...Psalm 12:6 - The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.Psalm 12:7 - Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever....John 10:35 - If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
 

Martin W.

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Copper 25 . In the simplest terms if something can be screwed up mankind will be sure to do it. It has always been this way , even amongst ourselves as Christians we look like a heck of a mess to the outsider and the insider. Thank goodness for a savior to get us through to the end.Too much of Christianity wants to tell everybody else what to do , but not do it themselves. The model is upside down at to what the savior intended.ps: The quote "not to change a word in this book" refers to the book of Revelation. See , we make mistakes too ......If you want to see another big mess , read a couple of chapters of first Corinthians. If it could be done wrong , they did it. Yet they were still told .....
you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed. 8He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful.
Modern day Christianity can be just as bad as the first Corinthians were. For these reasons the Creator has determined the only way to get us thru the mess is on the merits of the Saviour , not our own.I for one am thankfullBest wishes Copper25 .You have made some good points.Martin W.