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They had a way of making those radio shows bring a picture to your mind. Things of course changed with TV because there really was a picture in front of your eyes.

Yes, Tonto was the name of the close Indian friend of the Lone Ranger, a former Texas Ranger who was the sole survivor of an outlar ambush. The actor playing Tonto actually was a native American who had parts in many movies. The series on TV ended in the late 1950's. They did a remake on it recently as a movie, but I could never watch it. Like many old shows and movies, for me, the remake was sickening. [I saw only previews or some of the opening scenes.] The TV program may not have been a really 'good' program but I liked it as a kid and it was never a comedy.

Some re-makes just do not cut it...not even close.
 

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ha, yikes, sorry...so, ppl who make too much money in resort areas esp that have no probs paying $112 a month for a cell phone--man ida swore i did this already--anyway, drag the price up for the rest of us see mostly women sorry girls buried in here deep as i could
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You still speak in riddles.
 

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I'm glad to see you here :)

I believe we all need each other...I find I can easily soar an eagle on wings of faith one week....then the following week I need pulling our of some ditch I fell in without looking!

One day I may be calling on you to lift me up out of the ditch :D

Good to see you on solid ground bro. ...even if you are facing challenges.... God is making you strong through all this testing . Bless you ✟
Call on me anytime Helen, I'll be here for you sister.

I'm on solid ground and yes facing challenges everyday, these people I work with, they think they will break my will, but I will kill them with kindness, it's sad people have to act like that and think they have to try and belittle people to make themselves feel better.
 
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Like Nancy said I can see that you have a sweet and sensitive spirit that is very rare and beautiful to come across. You remind me of one of my own children. I will tell you that I'm a science fan - I read a lot about health. I experienced bouts of depression before and came across research that it's linked to the gut. They've actually found that probiotics in the gut signal the brain. I began taking a high quality probiotic (Jarrow and Hyperbiotics) and it disappeared. So I know that there is truth to it. Low vitamin D levels can also cause depression - I take 5,000 iu a day. Maybe God led you here for this reason? I hope that you will try it.

Thank you so much for your prayers! They mean more than you know. I will also be praying for you. I don't know what your job crisis is by if you subscribe to "Rat-Race-Rebellion" they have a lot of unusual jobs on there. You may find something that you're suited to or even just work at until you find what you really want to do.
 

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Like Nancy said I can see that you have a sweet and sensitive spirit that is very rare and beautiful to come across. You remind me of one of my own children. I will tell you that I'm a science fan - I read a lot about health. I experienced bouts of depression before and came across research that it's linked to the gut. They've actually found that probiotics in the gut signal the brain. I began taking a high quality probiotic (Jarrow and Hyperbiotics) and it disappeared. So I know that there is truth to it. Low vitamin D levels can also cause depression - I take 5,000 iu a day. Maybe God led you here for this reason? I hope that you will try it.

Thank you so much for your prayers! They mean more than you know. I will also be praying for you. I don't know what your job crisis is by if you subscribe to "Rat-Race-Rebellion" they have a lot of unusual jobs on there. You may find something that you're suited to or even just work at until you find what you really want to do.
Anytime Sister, and thank you for your prayers Soverign Grace.

I'm not depressed in that sense, but the fact that I made a bad choice in accepting this current job, the people are so miserable there, there are some good people, but I don't happen to work with them, I'm depressed in that sense, they are suppose to be training me, but aren't and when I ask questions about the work, they don't answer too nicely or tell me I should know it already, this is what makes me depressed, that people are this way.

When my job of 16 years closed, that was the last decent job I had, and when I had to train people, I never acted or responded like that, always told the person, ask me as many times as you need to and don't worry if it's the same question, eventually you'll get it, that's how you're suppose to train, by making the person comfortable, when you make a person nervous, it's harder to learn or pick up because you feel like you're walking on egg shells all the time and people snapping at you constantly.

Thanks for Rat Race Rebellion, I'll look it up.
 

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Call on me anytime Helen, I'll be here for you sister.

I'm on solid ground and yes facing challenges everyday, these people I work with, they think they will break my will, but I will kill them with kindness, it's sad people have to act like that and think they have to try and belittle people to make themselves feel better.

"Kill them with kindness" My mom used to say that allot. Also, "you catch more bees with honey than vinegar" :D

"it's sad people have to act like that and think they have to try and belittle people to make themselves feel better."
Yes, something I could never understand. I find that I pity people like this...but WE have the confidence of Christ and do not ever have to lift ourselves up, because He gives grace to the humble...Our God knows what He's doing :)
They cannot break your will as long as you have Christ with/in you! NOBODY messes with the sons and daughters of The Living God!
 

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"Kill them with kindness" My mom used to say that allot. Also, "you catch more bees with honey than vinegar" :D

"it's sad people have to act like that and think they have to try and belittle people to make themselves feel better."
Yes, something I could never understand. I find that I pity people like this...but WE have the confidence of Christ and do not ever have to lift ourselves up, because He gives grace to the humble...Our God knows what He's doing :)
They cannot break your will as long as you have Christ with/in you! NOBODY messes with the sons and daughters of The Living God!
Amen Nancy!
 
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Anytime Sister, and thank you for your prayers Soverign Grace.

I'm not depressed in that sense, but the fact that I made a bad choice in accepting this current job, the people are so miserable there, there are some good people, but I don't happen to work with them, I'm depressed in that sense, they are suppose to be training me, but aren't and when I ask questions about the work, they don't answer too nicely or tell me I should know it already, this is what makes me depressed, that people are this way.

When my job of 16 years closed, that was the last decent job I had, and when I had to train people, I never acted or responded like that, always told the person, ask me as many times as you need to and don't worry if it's the same question, eventually you'll get it, that's how you're suppose to train, by making the person comfortable, when you make a person nervous, it's harder to learn or pick up because you feel like you're walking on egg shells all the time and people snapping at you constantly.

Thanks for Rat Race Rebellion, I'll look it up.
@JohnPaul Keep praying, and keep your resume updated, right...? :)
 

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Do you read Christian biographies? I remember one I read many years ago. It was the auto-biography of Madame Guyon. I googled it and it is still available.

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Agree!

It's awesome...what a lady , and what a testimony ..eh.
I used to have the book, but we had to leave so many lovely books behind when we left England in '76, with just 8 case between 4 or us!.
Glad its on line :)
Thanks for the tip.
 

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Agree!

It's awesome...what a lady , and what a testimony ..eh.
I used to have the book, but we had to leave so many lovely books behind when we left England in '76, with just 8 case between 4 or us!.
Glad its on line :)
Thanks for the tip.

You're quite welcome. Indeed she was.

I had the book also, and like you, due to so many moves, I have lost it, or gave it away. If I remember right she was quite an influence on Watchman Nee...I think. And I remember you knew of him also. That circle of mystic Christians certainly made their mark in history. And they have certainly influenced me.

I think I will order her biography again.

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You still speak in riddles.
that ppl are willing to spend over $100 a month for a cellphone and that drags the price up for everyone else is a riddle? I mean i guess its not a bubble exactly...although the cable companies might disagree i guess. Which still might be a riddle to many here, but like no one has cable anymore.

i guess housing is a clearer example maybe
 
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that ppl are willing to spend over $100 a month for a cellphone and that drags the price up for everyone else is a riddle? I mean i guess its not a bubble exactly...although the cable companies might disagree i guess. Which still might be a riddle to many here, but like no one has cable anymore.

i guess housing is a clearer example maybe
I get it now, I use Roku myself just WiFi.
 
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Do you read Christian biographies? I remember one I read many years ago. It was the auto-biography of Madame Guyon. I googled it and it is still available.

Stranger

I read about Corrie ten Boom and all it did was upset me. I read about Joni and that upset me. I don't like to suffer but I also don't like to see others suffer. One of my family members worked for the medical examiners office and had to go to death scenes and told of some of the horrible cases. I do not know how they handled it. One case I recall was of a young boy who gunned his engine and committed suicide by running into a building. If you can try to help young people whenever you can. You never know who you might influence.

We had a pastor one time that was a straight shooter - but he left the church due to the corrupt family that owned it. He lost several children and I remember his wife telling me that she couldn't understand why God took their two and she read about children being abused and she said they would never do that. Our other pastor's wife committed suicide and left 7 children. I think that was due to the legalistic church - I could not have survived in that atmosphere either. Our neighbor's son died of a drug overdose. Many many in our old town died of the same.

So excuse the emotional honesty but sometimes God seems cruel to me. He says He wants truth in our inmost being and I tell Him these words. Throughout my own harsh struggles I met the lawyer who walked away from his faith after being forced to listen to heart-wrenching violations of innocent children by priests. After that a family member introduced me to her hairdresser and her husband - a cop - whose son had killed himself after years of molestation by priests. I communicated with the father for awhile and he was a broken man. He went every week with signs and placed them next to the Catholic institution where his son had been molested and stood vigil. The Catholic hierarchy walked right past him. They're fortunate he didn't take justice into his own hands. The priests that molested his son were let go due to some technicality. Where in the Name of God is God with such an overwhelming injustice perpetrated against an innocent young boy? The father told me they were sent to some cushy retirement home. Why didn't God allow justice?

Our neighbor's unarmed grandson was assassinated by police. The murdered young man left two little girls. The family tried to sue and a judge threw the lawsuit out. If a cop is killed on the job taxpayers pay for his family; if a regular person is killed by police they get nothing. My neighbor's granddaughter had a nervous breakdown after her husband and best friend took off together. If that wasn't bad enough they used her breakdown as a means to get custody of her son. So I am by no means alone, nor do I have the worst circumstances of anyone. Yet still my mind struggles to makes sense of why I and others have suffered deeply and my friend sails through life as if charmed.

I tell God that it's enough already - that too many lives have been broken and it's time to end it already. He asks for truth in our inmost being and somehow I think He appreciates it when we address our deep questions honestly and don't hide behind a facade of smiles and/ or lie to Him.

So I certainly see why Paul said he despaired of life. The only thing that makes sense to me is that God is working something out that we can't yet see. I'm sure Joseph had questions march through his brain when he was thrown into prison for something he never did. He was eventually able to say "You meant it for evil but God meant it for good." Still I think that Joseph's wicked brothers should have been punished more. They got off too easy - except for Simeon who tried to help him.

So why does God put a sense of justice within our hearts yet often prevent us from seeing it?

I haven't arrived at a good answer yet. All throughout Scripture we're told God is just yet where is justice???

I know the psalmist in psalm 73 eventually worked out his confusion at seeing the wicked prosper when he at last said "until I went into the House of God, then I understood their end..." So I guess keeping an eternal perspective helps.

The corrupt lawyer who stole some of my inheritance is a slime ball, as is the woman who hid our brief who worked in the probate office. I could have used that money they stole so there is real harm that we endure and sometimes it's hard to keep an eternal perspective. I had something far far worse done to my family by a Christian who was jealous of my family. I have learned to be wary of all people now - even those who profess and who I believe are Christians. I learned they can do just as much evil as an unbeliever.

Something else that puzzled me. I'm friends with a gay man and know of another young gay man. Neither are Christians yet they're more humane than some Christians I know.

The other issue I have is knowing when to drop something and when to leave it to God. So I've been praying for wisdom.

I was just reading in Exodus where God said "those whom I have filled with the Spirit of Wisdom..." and that verse jumped out at me. I really want to be filled with wisdom and have been praying that.
 
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You're quite welcome. Indeed she was.

I had the book also, and like you, due to so many moves, I have lost it, or gave it away. If I remember right she was quite an influence on Watchman Nee...I think. And I remember you knew of him also. That circle of mystic Christians certainly made their mark in history. And they have certainly influenced me.

I think I will order her biography again.

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Weren't there some controversies surrounding Watchman Nee? What are mystic Christians?