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Many non-believers tend to do that alot. For instance, my friends, (Who is Catholic.) Said that, Christians came up to him when he passed by a church & they were friendly & asked him if he wanted to convert.Apparently he took it as an offense & said that "we" Christians need to learn how to respect.I was not happy when he told me that.:mad:What should have i said back to him? advice.
 

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Many non-believers tend to do that alot. For instance, my friends, (Who is Catholic.) Said that, Christians came up to him when he passed by a church & they were friendly & asked him if he wanted to convert.Apparently he took it as an offense & said that "we" Christians need to learn how to respect.I was not happy when he told me that.:mad:What should have i said back to him? advice.
Most Catholics think they are Christians, if your friend was offended you should tell him/her to talk to the person that made the offending comment.
 

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Most Catholics think they are Christians, if your friend was offended you should tell him/her to talk to the person that made the offending comment.
that's because most Catholics are Christians.Just like most protestants are Christiansand most non-denominationals are Christians etc. Subject over.
 

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that's because most Catholics are Christians.Just like most protestants are Christiansand most non-denominationals are Christians etc. Subject over.
If you put my comment into the context of the OP you might understand what I said.
 

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I have observed the following:Many Catholics are indeed Christians as we would define it.Many Catholics do not worship Mary , pray to her , or get all caught up with golden candlesticks and all the rituals.Many protestants are also Christian as we would define it.Many Protestants are quick to bash anything Catholic.Very few Catholics bash other denominations.Very few of us have ever attended a Catholic service.It is not always as bad as we think it is.Many "Christian" Catholics remain with the (Catholic) church in spite of its problems.Many protestants remain with their church in spite of its problems.I am not Catholic. Never have been.Nor any denomination.Wheat and Weeds grow side by side until the harvest.We are not the harvesters.We have been told that very clearly.
 

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I have observed the following:Many Catholics are indeed Christians as we would define it.Many Catholics do not worship Mary , pray to her , or get all caught up with golden candlesticks and all the rituals.Many protestants are also Christian as we would define it.Many Protestants are quick to bash anything Catholic.Very few Catholics bash other denominations.Very few of us have ever attended a Catholic service.It is not always as bad as we think it is.Many "Christian" Catholics remain with the (Catholic) church in spite of its problems.Many protestants remain with their church in spite of its problems.I am not Catholic. Never have been.Nor any denomination.Wheat and Weeds grow side by side until the harvest.We are not the harvesters.We have been told that very clearly.
I've been to a Catholic Church. I hated it. They told me not to bring my bible... and yes they do worship Mary because they believe that Mary is sinless. Very blasphemy... They trust Mary over Jesus to be honest.I am neither Catholic nor Protestant. They are both guilty of something. And God is neither of them.
 

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I have observed the following:Many Catholics are indeed Christians as we would define it.Many Catholics do not worship Mary , pray to her , or get all caught up with golden candlesticks and all the rituals.Many protestants are also Christian as we would define it.Many Protestants are quick to bash anything Catholic.Very few Catholics bash other denominations.Very few of us have ever attended a Catholic service.It is not always as bad as we think it is.Many "Christian" Catholics remain with the (Catholic) church in spite of its problems.Many protestants remain with their church in spite of its problems.I am not Catholic. Never have been.Nor any denomination.Wheat and Weeds grow side by side until the harvest.We are not the harvesters.We have been told that very clearly.
I think that sums it up nicelyNow this forum is not about denominations, it is about Gods Word, so what does Gods Word have to day about the lack of respect to Christians."49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. (Luke 12:49-53)Notice That Jesus is sayingthat thosewho do not take up his message will be against the ones who do, This is what Jesus meant when he said " suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division" Because only by bringing division can the Gospel be said.This passage heavily implies that people who are not Christians, will often despise God and often his people. They will think them as foolish, arrogant, incompetent. We see this every day. Why is this 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. ( John 1:4-5) 10He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. ( John 1 10-11)Non believers don't recognize God, they don't understand God. That is why it is so important to show Jesus through our actions, so we can bring understanding too them. your brother in christRyan Fitz
 

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I've been to a Catholic Church. I hated it. They told me not to bring my bible... and yes they do worship Mary because they believe that Mary is sinless. Very blasphemy... They trust Mary over Jesus to be honest.I am neither Catholic nor Protestant. They are both guilty of something. And God is neither of them.
Whoever told you not to bring your bible was wrong. I am catholic and we are extremely open and welcoming, you can bring your own bible, rosery beads, anything really. Not sure what kind of church you went to , but we absolutely do not trust Mary over Jesus. Really its all about the types of priests and people you have running the church, I have been to some catholic churches where I didnt agree with some things either.Pardon for my bluntness but Jordan your posts seem very angry at times and a tone of bitterness. We all believe in one GOD.So protestants and catholics are guilty of something?! Please explain and tell me what we are guilty of. You are judging and obviously breaking the number one thing christians are not suppose to do, judge.
 

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I am catholic and we are extremely open and welcoming, .
This is what I have experienced as well when invited to Catholic functions. Thank you.You mentioned Rosary beads. Appears to me to me to be a ritual type of reminder for prayer and reflection etc.I listened to an evangelical pastor discuss a small cross he carried with his loose change to remind him of Christ all day long. Appears to me to be a ritual type of reminder for prayer and reflection etc. Same thing.You also mentioned some folks appear angry and bitter. Here is why:It is easier to examine everyone else and find fault , than it is to examine ourselves and correct our own faults. It is our sinful nature that desires to fault others. It leads us to anger and bitterness as we try to avoid ourselves.It is our (Holy) Spiritual nature that desires to examine ourselves and improve. This leads to peace and love. Jesus approves.Thank you for your welcome to those you are in contact with AJG. Because of similar welcomes I have made many good Christian Catholic friends. I am thankful now, yet remain ashamed of my previous judgements done in error.Martin W.
 

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You also mentioned some folks appear angry and bitter. Here is why:It is easier to examine everyone else and find fault , than it is to examine ourselves and correct our own faults. It is our sinful nature that desires to fault others. It leads us to anger and bitterness as we try to avoid ourselves.It is our (Holy) Spiritual nature that desires to examine ourselves and improve. This leads to peace and love. Jesus approves.Thank you for your welcome to those you are in contact with AJG. Because of similar welcomes I have made many good Christian Catholic friends. I am thankful now, yet remain ashamed of my previous judgements done in error.Martin W.
Thanks for those 3 listings, I will take those more into consideration. You are welcome. Believe me I am fully aware of the corruption that happens in the catholic church/religion, I don't not put blinders on in this world. At one point I even was looking to turn away from my catholic religion but then I asked myself why? The few catholics churchs I attend to are the complete opposite of what you hear about in the news. Even though I am catholic I don't particularly agree with things, such as recognizing the Pope as the GOD-head of the church. I don't get all crazy about the pope, to me he is just a very spirtual man. On the topic of the rosery, my grandma is always doing them. Believe it or not it can be a very relaxing activity in prayer and to reflect.
 

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Many non-believers tend to do that alot. For instance, my friends, (Who is Catholic.) Said that, Christians came up to him when he passed by a church & they were friendly & asked him if he wanted to convert.Apparently he took it as an offense & said that "we" Christians need to learn how to respect.I was not happy when he told me that.:mad:What should have i said back to him? advice.
You will always get that response from unbelievers because they reject the truth of the gospel. That's why secular society thinks that Christians hate homosexuals for wanting them to repent instead of loving them enough to want them to go to heaven. This attitude is what God Jesus killed. He said; "The world will reject me because I testify that what it does is evil." And people don't want to hear that they are evil and need redemption. That's just the way it is.
 

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You will always get that response from unbelievers because they reject the truth of the gospel. That's why secular society thinks that Christians hate homosexuals for wanting them to repent instead of loving them enough to want them to go to heaven. This attitude is what God Jesus killed. He said; "The world will reject me because I testify that what it does is evil." And people don't want to hear that they are evil and need redemption. That's just the way it is.
Well I want homosexuals to repent and love them enough to go to heaven.My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. - [url="http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/john-15.htm#12]John 15:12-13[/url]Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD. - [url="http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/leviticus-19.htm#18]Leviticus 19:18[/url]Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs. – [url="http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/proverbs-10.htm#12]Proverbs 10:12[/url]And one of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?" Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." -Mark 12:28-31"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.- John 13:34-35Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:8Love is the most important action we can do as a christian!!This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. 1 John 3:16
 

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Well I want homosexuals to repent and love them enough to go to heaven.My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. - [url="http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/john-15.htm#12]John 15:12-13[/url]Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD. - [url="http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/leviticus-19.htm#18]Leviticus 19:18[/url]Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs. – [url="http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/proverbs-10.htm#12]Proverbs 10:12[/url]And one of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?" Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." -Mark 12:28-31"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.- John 13:34-35Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:8Love is the most important action we can do as a christian!!This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. 1 John 3:16
Me too. But pretty soon it will be illegal to claim that homosexuality is a sin since the world sees our concern for homosexuals as hate. Nevertheless, we're call to speak the truth anyway. :angel9:
 

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Me too. But pretty soon it will be illegal to claim that homosexuality is a sin since the world sees our concern for homosexuals as hate. Nevertheless, we're call to speak the truth anyway. :angel9:
well it was illegal to be a christiannever stopped Peter Paul and all of the other early disciples, we must remember 4And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. ( Luke 12: 4-5)
 

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So, I guess we're not supposed to "rightly divide the word of truth". Is it okay to pray to Mary? Is it okay to pray to dead saints, or for dead saints? I wonder, should we pray to Michael the Arch Angel or any other angel to intercede for us in our time of weakness? Is it okay to pray for dead people to pray for us? Is it okay to demand that a leader should remain abstinate, and forbid them to marry? Is it okay to think that one must do a certain ritual to get Gods attention, or to obtain an audience with Jesus? Is it right to call anyman Father? Is it right for a human man to call himself equal with God and lord over all? Is it right to have graven images? I wonder, If I'm a good man, but haven't accepted Christ, will I just float around in a big boring nothing forever? I wonder if the death and resurection of Jesus Christ was enough to attone and justify me. Just out of curiosity, I wonder what the word of God has to say about this.
 

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QUOTE (Oath XIII @ Jan 26 2009, 02:24 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=68351
Many non-believers tend to do that alot. For instance, my friends, (Who is Catholic.) Said that, Christians came up to him when he passed by a church & they were friendly & asked him if he wanted to convert.Apparently he took it as an offense & said that "we" Christians need to learn how to respect.I was not happy when he told me that.:mad:What should have i said back to him? advice.
The correct answer to your friend’s statement would be (in my humble opinion) that if you are offended, before you get mad at all Christians, examine your own heart and take the Scripture in consideration. Rom 9:33 As it is written: "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."
 

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QUOTE (bethog @ Apr 2 2009, 07:43 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71628
The correct answer to your friend’s statement would be (in my humble opinion) that if you are offended, before you get mad at all Christians, examine your own heart and take the Scripture in consideration. Rom 9:33 As it is written: "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."
yeah, that's a better way to put it.