I'm not the brightest bulb in the packet, so I'm a little confused. Are we discussing scripture, Calvin's expositors, or your riddles? My KJV is quite plainly simple, just like me. It says in Daniel 1:21 that Daniel continued in his role under Nebuchadnezzar and his sons until Cyrus. This is confirmed by 10:29 which says in Cyrus third year, he had another vision. I see no reference to Daniels death anywhere. So clue me in please...why the mystery? What were those expositors you mentioned confused over? Calvin's work or the scripture?
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Prophecy foretold them uso.
Isa_28:22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.
Jud_1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1Pe 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
Jud_1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1Pe 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
Davy
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Your false claim doesn't hold water, because it only assumes Paul had to be talking about the idea of the spiritual temple because of that phrase "temple of God", just because God being mentioned in it. Not only that, it betrays Bible history about the literal temple in Jerusalem that was corrupted and spiritually desolated in earlier history, like with Antiochus IV in 165-170 B.C.!
So for what you're saying to be accurate, it would have to mean that the previous temple in Jerusalem never was really God's temple, because it was desolated by Antiochus and an idol abomination was setup inside by him, and God would never allow that, now would He? Yeah, of course He would allow that if Judah turns away from Him to worship idols, which they did more than once in the past.
You should try reading the Ezekiel 8 Chapter to see what God's chosen are capable of inside the temple of God in Jerusalem.
Ezek 8:1-6
8:1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me.
2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.
5 Then said he unto me, 'Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north.' So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.
6 He said furthermore unto me, 'Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from My sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.
KJV
Bobby Jo
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I have NO "riddles", but Scripture DOES.
Dan. 1 covers the span of Daniel's servitude -- which concludes at his death in the First Year of Cyrus. So 10:1 cites Daniel being ALIVE in the Third Year of Cyrus. -- Exactly how is this possible? It's the SAME "Daniel" and the SAME "Cyrus". And Scripture is PERFECTLY CORRECT as Written as I've attempted to present. -- So solve the "riddle".
Please note that this FACT (1:21) has serious consequences for everything* we're LIED to regarding Prophetic Aspects in this Book.
Bobby Jo
* Well maybe not EVERYTHING, but certainly include Chapters 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, & 12!
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Not a single translation says "death" (and the Hebrew word "ויהיH1961", doesn't mean death, it means to continue) and Daniel 6:28, 10:1 show he was still very much prospering:
Dan 6:28 So this Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius, and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian.
Dan 10:1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
Dan 10:1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
HOT
Dan 1:21 ויהי דניאל עד־שׁנת אחת לכורשׁ המלך׃
KJ21
And Daniel continued even unto the first year of King Cyrus.
ASV
And Daniel continued even unto the first year of king Cyrus.
AMP
And Daniel remained there until the first year of [the reign of] King Cyrus [over Babylon; now this was at the end of the seventy-year exile of Judah (the Southern Kingdom) in Babylonia, as foretold by Jeremiah].
AMPC
And Daniel continued there even to the first year of King Cyrus [at the close of the seventy years’ exile of Judah in Babylonia, which Jeremiah had foretold].
BRG
And Daniel continued even unto the first year of king Cyrus.
CSB
Daniel remained there until the first year of King Cyrus.
CEB
And Daniel stayed in the king’s service until the first year of King Cyrus.
CJB
So Dani’el remained there until the first year of King Koresh.
CEV
Daniel served there until the first year of King Cyrus.
DARBY
And Daniel continued unto the first year of king Cyrus.
DRA
And Daniel continued even to the first year of king Cyrus.
ERV
So Daniel served the king until the first year that Cyrus was king.
EHV
So Daniel remained there until the first year of King Cyrus.
ESV
And Daniel was there until the first year of King Cyrus.
ESVUK
And Daniel was there until the first year of King Cyrus.
EXB
So Daniel ·continued to be the king’s servant [was there] until the first year Cyrus was king.
GNV
And Daniel was unto the first year of king Cyrus.
GW
Daniel served the royal palace until the first year of King Cyrus of Persia.
GNT
Daniel remained at the royal court until Cyrus, the emperor of Persia, conquered Babylonia.
HCSB
Daniel remained there until the first year of King Cyrus.
ICB
So Daniel continued to be the king’s servant until the first year Cyrus was king.
ISV
So Daniel remained there in service until the first year of King Cyrus.
JUB
And Daniel continued even unto the first year of King Cyrus.
KJV
And Daniel continued even unto the first year of king Cyrus.
AKJV
And Daniel continued even unto the first year of king Cyrus.
LEB
And Daniel was there until the first year of Cyrus the king.
TLB
Daniel held this appointment as the king’s counselor until the first year of the reign of King Cyrus.
MSG
Daniel continued in the king’s service until the first year in the reign of King Cyrus.
MEV
Daniel continued even to the first year of King Cyrus.
NOG
Daniel served the royal palace until the first year of King Cyrus of Persia.
NABRE
Daniel remained there until the first year of King Cyrus.
NASB
And Daniel continued until the first year of Cyrus the king.
NCV
So Daniel continued to be the king’s servant until the first year Cyrus was king.
NET
Now Daniel lived on until the first year of Cyrus the king.
- Daniel 1:21 sn The Persian king Cyrus’ first year in control of Babylon was 539 b.c. Daniel actually lived beyond the first year of Cyrus, as is clear from 10:1. The purpose of the statement in 1:21 is merely to say that Daniel’s life spanned the entire period of the neo-Babylonian empire. His life span also included the early years of the Persian control of Babylon. However, by that time his age was quite advanced; he probably died sometime in the 530’s b.c.
Not a single translation says "death" (and the Hebrew word "ויהיH1961", doesn't mean death, it means to continue) and Daniel 6:28, 10:1 show he was still very much prospering:
Dan 6:28 So this Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius, and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian.
Dan 10:1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
Dan 10:1 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
NIRV
Daniel served in Babylon until the first year Cyrus ruled over the land of Babylon. Cyrus was king of Persia.
NIV
And Daniel remained there until the first year of King Cyrus.
NIVUK
And Daniel remained there until the first year of King Cyrus.
NKJV
Thus Daniel continued until the first year of King Cyrus.
NLV
And Daniel was there until the first year of King Cyrus.
NLT
Daniel remained in the royal service until the first year of the reign of King Cyrus.
NRSV
And Daniel continued there until the first year of King Cyrus.
NRSVA
And Daniel continued there until the first year of King Cyrus.
NRSVACE
And Daniel continued there until the first year of King Cyrus.
NRSVCE
And Daniel continued there until the first year of King Cyrus.
OJB
And Daniel continued even unto the first year of King Koresh (Cyrus).
RSV
And Daniel continued until the first year of King Cyrus.
RSVCE
And Daniel continued until the first year of King Cyrus.
TLV
Daniel remained there until the first year of King Cyrus.
VOICE
This is how Daniel came to serve the royal court, a position he safely held until the first year of King Cyrus when his Persian army conquered Babylonia.
WEB
Daniel continued even to the first year of king Cyrus.
WYC
Forsooth Daniel was (there) till to the first year of king Cyrus.
YLT
And Daniel is unto the first year of Cyrus the king.
Wycliffe
21 Forsooth Daniel was (there) till to the first year of king Cyrus.
Matthews
And Daniel abode styll unto the fyrst yeare of kynge Cyrus
Coverdale
And Daniel abode still, unto the first yeare of kynge Cyrus.
German Luther
Dan 1:21 Und Daniel erlebte das erste Jahr des König Kores.
Italian Diodati
Dan 1:21 E Daniele fu così fino all'anno primo del re Ciro.
Spanish Reina Valera
Dan 1:21 Y fué Daniel hasta el año primero del rey Ciro.
French Ostervald
Dan 1:21 Ainsi fut Daniel jusqu'à la première année du roi Cyrus.
Jeromes Latin
Dan 1:21 fuit autem Danihel usque ad annum primum Cyri regis
Samoan
Dan 1:21 Sa i ai Tanielu ua oo i le tausaga muamua o Kuresa le tupu.
So called LXX Greek OT (Brenton's English, Greek to English Tr.)
Dan 1:21 καὶ ἐγένετο Δανιηλ ἕως ἔτους ἑνὸς Κύρου τοῦ βασιλέως.
Dan 1:21 And Daniel continued till the first year of king Cyrus.
TSK
Dan_6:28, Dan_10:1 "He lived to see that glorious time of the return of his people from the Babylonia captivity, though he did not die then. So till is used Psa_110:1, Psa_112:8."
John Wesley's Notes
"... he lived in honour and high employment all that time, yea, after Cyrus began to reign. For Dan 10:1, he had visions and revelations in the third year of Cyrus."
E. W. Bullinger
continued = continued in office. See first occurance: Exo_25:30. Dan_25:30, also Exo_27:20; Exo_28:29, Exo_28:30, Exo_28:38; Exo_29:38, Exo_29:42; Exo_30:8, &c. Compare Eze_39:14, "continual employment".
the first year of king Cyrus: i.e. during the whole period of Babylonian supremacy over Israel for sixty-nine years (495-426 = 69). It does not say that he did not continue longer, but that he lived to see that important epoch. Compare Dan_10:1; and see App-57and App-58.
etc. - Daniel 1:21 - And Daniel continued... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary
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Bobby Jo
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Yep, Daniel continued until the First Year of Cyrus; -- and then he continued another year, which would make THE SECOND YEAR of CYRUS; -- and then he continued another year, which would make THE THIRD YEAR of CYRUS; -- Do You Want MORE?!?
Don't be an idiot. Daniel continued until the FIRST year of Cyrus and THEN HE CONTINUED NO MORE.
And it's ok if you can't solve the SIMPLE RIDDLE. But if you can't solve simple things, please don't attempt the complex.
Bobby Jo
Not impossible to corrupt at all...there is no difference as to the coruptiibility of the brick and mortar and the human temple. Both are the habitation of the spirit of God, and the spirit can be grieved in both...and has been. This conversation could take a very decided left hand turn here but if you want any evidence to how corrupt the church can and has become just let me know.
Revelation 12:1
•“a great wonder” – Truly God’s miracles are a sign of His glorious and beautiful character of love; see Deut. 3:24, 4:34, 6:22, 7:19, 26:8, 29:3; Jos. 24:17; Neh. 9:17; Job. 9:10; Psa. 136:4; Jer. 32:21; Dan. 4:3; Mat. 9:8, 15:31; Mar. 2:12; Luk. 5:26, 7:16, 13:13, 17:15, 23:47; Jhn. 6:2, 11:4, 13:31-32; Act. 2:19, 3:11-13, 4:21, 6:8, 11:18; Gal. 1:24; 2 Thes. 1:12; 1 Pet. 4:14, etc.
•“in heaven” – Truly a miracle of God that any person of ‘mankind’ is ‘in heaven’ at all because the wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23), but through the grace, love and promise of God in Christ Jesus (Gen. 3:15,21), mankind was to be redeemed, and though it was given for all (Jhn. 3:16), only a remnant who believed, grasping the promise by living faith and not letting go, appropriating it to themselves, would be saved; see Mat. 6:21; Luk. 12:34; Phi. 3:20; Col. 3:1-3; Heb. 12:23, and (‘in heaven’, Canaan, the promised land, a symbol of the real promised land, Heavenly Canaan); see 1 Cor. 10:6,11; Gen. 17:8; Exo. 20:12; 1 Chr. 16:18; Psa. 105:11, etc.)
•“a woman” (faithful) – God’s people ((OT) Israel or (NT) Christians), flock, church, a body, bone of the man’s (Adam; Gen. 2:23; 1 Cor. 15:44-46) bone and flesh of His flesh, and the city (Mat. 12:10-11) in which they reside (New Jerusalem); see Jer. 6:2; Isa. 54:5, 61:10, 62:5 ; Act. 7:38; 1 Cor. 6:17; 2 Cor. 11:2; Gal. 4:26; Eph. 5:23-32; Rev. 19:7, 21:2-3,9; see also Jesus as the “bridegroom” – Mat. 9:15, 25:1,5-6,10; Mar. 2:19-20; Luk. 5:34-35; Jhn. 2:9, 3:29; Rev. 18:23; Jer. 7:34, 16:9, 25:10, 33:11; Joe. 2:16 and Song of Solomon (entire); see also (unfaithful) Jer. 3:14,20; Hos. 1:2, 2:2, etc.
•“clothed with” (not naked (a symbol of shame/sin; Gen 3:7-11; Isa. 47:3; Eze. 16:8; Hos. 2:9; Nah. 3:5; Rev. 3:18, for we are warned not to uncover our ‘Mother’s” (Gal. 4:26) nakedness in Lev. 18)) – The character [righteous or unrighteous, rich or poor, depending upon context, etc, and color also affects the character, like White is Purity/Righteousness, Blue is Law/Commandments, Red is Sin/Sacrifice; Purple is Royalty, Lambskin is Christ's Character or Righteousness, Goatskin is the symbol for sin, etc], see Gen. 3:7,21, 35:2; Exo. 28:2,4; Ecc. 9:8; Isa. 52:1, 59:6,17, 61:3,10, 63:2-3, 64:6; Eze. 16:16; Joe. 2:13; Zec. 3:3-5; Gal. 3:27; Tit. 2:10; Rev. 3:4,17, 16:15 [compare to the Garden of Gethsemane, when the disciples forsook Jesus, Mar. 14:51-52], 19:14
•“the sun” – The Great Light in the 2nd Heaven, the day star, the morning star, which gives light, warmth, being glorious, and represents God, even Jesus Christ, the Everlasting Gospel and the New Testament/Covenant; see Gen. 1:15-19; Num. 24:17; Psa. 72:17, 84:11, 89:36; Ecc. 11:7; Son. 6:10; Isa. 2:5, 5:20, 8:20, 30:6, 60:1,3,19-20; Jer. 31:35; Mic. 3:6; Mal. 4:2; Mat. 4:16, 13:43, 17:2; Luk. 1:79; Jhn. 1:4-9, 3:21, 8:12, 9:5, 12:35-36,46; Act. 9:3; 2 Cor. 4:4-6; Eph. 5:13-14; 2 Pet. 1:19; 1 Jhn. 2:8; Rev. 1:16, 2:28, 10:1, 21:11,23, 22:5,16.
•“the moon” – The lesser light, ruling the night, being for “signs”, “seasons”, which reflects the light of the Sun, reflecting the glory of God (like unto the Sea of Glass, Rev. 4:6, 15:2), and is also representative of the Old Testament, along with the Shadows/Types, being a faithful witness, likened unto a mother of Israel, and is ‘a rock’; see Gen. 1:15-19, 37:9; Exo. 33:21; Deut. 33:14; Job. 31:26; Psa. 81:3, 89:37, 121:6; Son. 6:10; Isa. 8:18, 30:26, 60:19; Eze. 46:4; Luk. 6:48, 24:27; Act. 2:43, 5:12, 8:13, 14:3; Rom. 15:19; 1 Cor. 10:11; 2 Cor. 12:12; Col. 2:16-17; Heb. 2:4
•“under her feet” – The way in which a person walks, either in the light or in darkness, in the truth or in error, walking with God or away from God, walking in His ways or the ways of another, and this “woman” is seen standing upon the firm “moon”, the very word of God, even the ‘rock’ Christ Jesus, the “faithful witness”, the foundation of the Old Testament which points forward using symbols, shadows and types unto Christ Jesus the reality; see Gen. 5:22,24, 6:9, 17:1; Exo. 16:14, 18:20, 32:8; Lev. 18:3-4, 20:23, 26:3,21; Deut. 5:33, 8:6,19, 10:12, 11:22,28, 13:4-5, 19:9; 2 Sam. 22:37; 1 Ki. 8:25, 15:3, 16:26; 2 Chr. 6:16; Job. 31:7; Psa. 18:36, 73:2, 86:11, 115:7, 119:3,45; Pro. 21:16; Luk. 6:48; Jhn. 8:12, 11:9-10, 12:35; Act. 14:16, 21:21; 1 Cor. 3:11; 2 Tim. 2:19.
•“upon her head” – Leadership or Rulership, Authority and also in Subjection, as Christ Jesus is “head” of the “body” the Church, and the Father is the Head of Christ or as a symbol of reward, as in favour (Gen. 48:17; Job. 29:3; Psa. 133:2) or disfavour (Gen. 40:17; 2 Sam. 1:16; 1 Ki. 2:33,37, 8:32; 2 Chr. 6:23; Neh. 4:4; Est. 9:25; Psa. 7:16; Jer. 2:37, 23:19, 30:23; Eze. 9:10, 16:43, 33:4; Joe. 3:4,7; Amo. 8:10; Oba. 1:15) from God; see Exo. 29:26; 1 Chr. 29:11; Est. 2:17, 6:8; Pro. 10:6, 11:26; Isa. 51:11, 59:17; Eze. 16:12; Zec. 3:5; Mat. 27:29; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 4:15, 5:23; Col. 1:18, 2:10; Rev. 14:14, 19:12.
•“a crown” – Rulership, leadership, authority, dominion, kings, emperors, queens, heads of state, exalted, royalty, victorious, knowledge of wisdom; see Lev. 21:22; Est. 2:17; Job. 19:19; Isa. 28:5, 62:3; Psa. 8:5; Pro. 4:9, 12:4, 14:18; Son. 3:11; Lam. 5:16; Eze. 21:26; Mat. 27:29; 2 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 2:9.
•“of 12” – Service, Victory over self (Israel; OT – 12 patriarchs & NT – 12 disciples/apostles; prince or overcomer with God) and always being about the Father’s business, rulership (Est. 9:1; as the 12 hours in the day/night; Jhn. 11:9), purification (Est. 2:12), and 6 + 6 were the two stacks of the shewbread, a place for the Father and Son (Lev. 24:5-6); see: Gen. 14:4, 42:13; 1 Ki. 4:7, 18:31; 1 Chr. 25:6,9-31; 2 Chr. 34:3; Neh. 5:14; Eze. 47:12; Mat. 10:5-10; Mar. 3:14-15, 9:35; Luk. 2:42,49, 9:1-2; Jhn. 18:36; Act. 26:7; Jam. 1:1; Rev. 7:3,4-8, 22:2.
•“stars” – (12 stars, are a united constellation, a unified unit) the re-created peoples (multitudes) of God, also Angels, messengers as shining lights to the world which shone in the night, exalted in the heavens; for signs; see Gen. 1:16, 15:5, 22:17, 26:4, 37:9; Exo. 32:13; Deut. 1:10, 10:22, 28:62; Judg. 5:20; 1 Chr. 27:23; Neh. 4:21, 9:23; Job. 3:9, 9:9, 22:12, 38:7,31; Psa. 8:3, 136:9, 147:4, 148:3; Isa. 13:10, 14:13; Jer. 31:35; Dan. 10:8, 12:3; Joe. 2:10, 3:15; Amo. 5:8,26; Oba. 1:4; Mat. 2:2,7,9-10; Luk. 21:25; Jhn. 1:8, 5:35; Act. 7:43; 1 Cor. 15:41; Heb. 11:12; Jud. 1:13; Rev. 1:16,20, 2:1, 3:1, 8:10,12, 9:1, 12:4,7,8,9.
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
•“a great wonder” – Truly God’s miracles are a sign of His glorious and beautiful character of love; see Deut. 3:24, 4:34, 6:22, 7:19, 26:8, 29:3; Jos. 24:17; Neh. 9:17; Job. 9:10; Psa. 136:4; Jer. 32:21; Dan. 4:3; Mat. 9:8, 15:31; Mar. 2:12; Luk. 5:26, 7:16, 13:13, 17:15, 23:47; Jhn. 6:2, 11:4, 13:31-32; Act. 2:19, 3:11-13, 4:21, 6:8, 11:18; Gal. 1:24; 2 Thes. 1:12; 1 Pet. 4:14, etc.
•“in heaven” – Truly a miracle of God that any person of ‘mankind’ is ‘in heaven’ at all because the wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23), but through the grace, love and promise of God in Christ Jesus (Gen. 3:15,21), mankind was to be redeemed, and though it was given for all (Jhn. 3:16), only a remnant who believed, grasping the promise by living faith and not letting go, appropriating it to themselves, would be saved; see Mat. 6:21; Luk. 12:34; Phi. 3:20; Col. 3:1-3; Heb. 12:23, and (‘in heaven’, Canaan, the promised land, a symbol of the real promised land, Heavenly Canaan); see 1 Cor. 10:6,11; Gen. 17:8; Exo. 20:12; 1 Chr. 16:18; Psa. 105:11, etc.)
•“a woman” (faithful) – God’s people ((OT) Israel or (NT) Christians), flock, church, a body, bone of the man’s (Adam; Gen. 2:23; 1 Cor. 15:44-46) bone and flesh of His flesh, and the city (Mat. 12:10-11) in which they reside (New Jerusalem); see Jer. 6:2; Isa. 54:5, 61:10, 62:5 ; Act. 7:38; 1 Cor. 6:17; 2 Cor. 11:2; Gal. 4:26; Eph. 5:23-32; Rev. 19:7, 21:2-3,9; see also Jesus as the “bridegroom” – Mat. 9:15, 25:1,5-6,10; Mar. 2:19-20; Luk. 5:34-35; Jhn. 2:9, 3:29; Rev. 18:23; Jer. 7:34, 16:9, 25:10, 33:11; Joe. 2:16 and Song of Solomon (entire); see also (unfaithful) Jer. 3:14,20; Hos. 1:2, 2:2, etc.
•“clothed with” (not naked (a symbol of shame/sin; Gen 3:7-11; Isa. 47:3; Eze. 16:8; Hos. 2:9; Nah. 3:5; Rev. 3:18, for we are warned not to uncover our ‘Mother’s” (Gal. 4:26) nakedness in Lev. 18)) – The character [righteous or unrighteous, rich or poor, depending upon context, etc, and color also affects the character, like White is Purity/Righteousness, Blue is Law/Commandments, Red is Sin/Sacrifice; Purple is Royalty, Lambskin is Christ's Character or Righteousness, Goatskin is the symbol for sin, etc], see Gen. 3:7,21, 35:2; Exo. 28:2,4; Ecc. 9:8; Isa. 52:1, 59:6,17, 61:3,10, 63:2-3, 64:6; Eze. 16:16; Joe. 2:13; Zec. 3:3-5; Gal. 3:27; Tit. 2:10; Rev. 3:4,17, 16:15 [compare to the Garden of Gethsemane, when the disciples forsook Jesus, Mar. 14:51-52], 19:14
•“the sun” – The Great Light in the 2nd Heaven, the day star, the morning star, which gives light, warmth, being glorious, and represents God, even Jesus Christ, the Everlasting Gospel and the New Testament/Covenant; see Gen. 1:15-19; Num. 24:17; Psa. 72:17, 84:11, 89:36; Ecc. 11:7; Son. 6:10; Isa. 2:5, 5:20, 8:20, 30:6, 60:1,3,19-20; Jer. 31:35; Mic. 3:6; Mal. 4:2; Mat. 4:16, 13:43, 17:2; Luk. 1:79; Jhn. 1:4-9, 3:21, 8:12, 9:5, 12:35-36,46; Act. 9:3; 2 Cor. 4:4-6; Eph. 5:13-14; 2 Pet. 1:19; 1 Jhn. 2:8; Rev. 1:16, 2:28, 10:1, 21:11,23, 22:5,16.
•“the moon” – The lesser light, ruling the night, being for “signs”, “seasons”, which reflects the light of the Sun, reflecting the glory of God (like unto the Sea of Glass, Rev. 4:6, 15:2), and is also representative of the Old Testament, along with the Shadows/Types, being a faithful witness, likened unto a mother of Israel, and is ‘a rock’; see Gen. 1:15-19, 37:9; Exo. 33:21; Deut. 33:14; Job. 31:26; Psa. 81:3, 89:37, 121:6; Son. 6:10; Isa. 8:18, 30:26, 60:19; Eze. 46:4; Luk. 6:48, 24:27; Act. 2:43, 5:12, 8:13, 14:3; Rom. 15:19; 1 Cor. 10:11; 2 Cor. 12:12; Col. 2:16-17; Heb. 2:4
•“under her feet” – The way in which a person walks, either in the light or in darkness, in the truth or in error, walking with God or away from God, walking in His ways or the ways of another, and this “woman” is seen standing upon the firm “moon”, the very word of God, even the ‘rock’ Christ Jesus, the “faithful witness”, the foundation of the Old Testament which points forward using symbols, shadows and types unto Christ Jesus the reality; see Gen. 5:22,24, 6:9, 17:1; Exo. 16:14, 18:20, 32:8; Lev. 18:3-4, 20:23, 26:3,21; Deut. 5:33, 8:6,19, 10:12, 11:22,28, 13:4-5, 19:9; 2 Sam. 22:37; 1 Ki. 8:25, 15:3, 16:26; 2 Chr. 6:16; Job. 31:7; Psa. 18:36, 73:2, 86:11, 115:7, 119:3,45; Pro. 21:16; Luk. 6:48; Jhn. 8:12, 11:9-10, 12:35; Act. 14:16, 21:21; 1 Cor. 3:11; 2 Tim. 2:19.
•“upon her head” – Leadership or Rulership, Authority and also in Subjection, as Christ Jesus is “head” of the “body” the Church, and the Father is the Head of Christ or as a symbol of reward, as in favour (Gen. 48:17; Job. 29:3; Psa. 133:2) or disfavour (Gen. 40:17; 2 Sam. 1:16; 1 Ki. 2:33,37, 8:32; 2 Chr. 6:23; Neh. 4:4; Est. 9:25; Psa. 7:16; Jer. 2:37, 23:19, 30:23; Eze. 9:10, 16:43, 33:4; Joe. 3:4,7; Amo. 8:10; Oba. 1:15) from God; see Exo. 29:26; 1 Chr. 29:11; Est. 2:17, 6:8; Pro. 10:6, 11:26; Isa. 51:11, 59:17; Eze. 16:12; Zec. 3:5; Mat. 27:29; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 4:15, 5:23; Col. 1:18, 2:10; Rev. 14:14, 19:12.
•“a crown” – Rulership, leadership, authority, dominion, kings, emperors, queens, heads of state, exalted, royalty, victorious, knowledge of wisdom; see Lev. 21:22; Est. 2:17; Job. 19:19; Isa. 28:5, 62:3; Psa. 8:5; Pro. 4:9, 12:4, 14:18; Son. 3:11; Lam. 5:16; Eze. 21:26; Mat. 27:29; 2 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 2:9.
•“of 12” – Service, Victory over self (Israel; OT – 12 patriarchs & NT – 12 disciples/apostles; prince or overcomer with God) and always being about the Father’s business, rulership (Est. 9:1; as the 12 hours in the day/night; Jhn. 11:9), purification (Est. 2:12), and 6 + 6 were the two stacks of the shewbread, a place for the Father and Son (Lev. 24:5-6); see: Gen. 14:4, 42:13; 1 Ki. 4:7, 18:31; 1 Chr. 25:6,9-31; 2 Chr. 34:3; Neh. 5:14; Eze. 47:12; Mat. 10:5-10; Mar. 3:14-15, 9:35; Luk. 2:42,49, 9:1-2; Jhn. 18:36; Act. 26:7; Jam. 1:1; Rev. 7:3,4-8, 22:2.
•“stars” – (12 stars, are a united constellation, a unified unit) the re-created peoples (multitudes) of God, also Angels, messengers as shining lights to the world which shone in the night, exalted in the heavens; for signs; see Gen. 1:16, 15:5, 22:17, 26:4, 37:9; Exo. 32:13; Deut. 1:10, 10:22, 28:62; Judg. 5:20; 1 Chr. 27:23; Neh. 4:21, 9:23; Job. 3:9, 9:9, 22:12, 38:7,31; Psa. 8:3, 136:9, 147:4, 148:3; Isa. 13:10, 14:13; Jer. 31:35; Dan. 10:8, 12:3; Joe. 2:10, 3:15; Amo. 5:8,26; Oba. 1:4; Mat. 2:2,7,9-10; Luk. 21:25; Jhn. 1:8, 5:35; Act. 7:43; 1 Cor. 15:41; Heb. 11:12; Jud. 1:13; Rev. 1:16,20, 2:1, 3:1, 8:10,12, 9:1, 12:4,7,8,9.
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Revelation 12:2
•“she being with child” – Pregnant with the Messiah/Christ, the field having received the ‘seed’ (as of a mustard seed) of faith (Mat. 13:31, 17:20; Mar. 4:31; Luk. 13:19. 17:6), who when given (new) ‘birth’ (character of Christ formed within) to, bearing ‘fruit’ (Exo. 21:22; Gen. 1:11-12; 2 Ki. 19:30; Isa. 37:31; Eze. 17:8,23; Luk. 13:9; Jhn. 15:4), would be ‘delivered’, see Gen. 3:15, 16:11, 19:36, 38:24-25; 1 Sam. 4:19; 2 Sam. 11:5; Ecc. 11:5; Isa. 26:17-18, 54:1, 66:7-8; Mic. 5:3; Mat. 1:18,23, 24:19; Mar. 13:17; Luk. 21:23; Gal. 4:27; Rev. 12:17. – pre A.D., being B.C. (Did you know that a woman ‘sheds blood’ (works, filthy rags) until she receives ‘the seed’ (of Faith) – Mat. 9:20-22; Mar. 5:25-34; Luk. 8:43-48?)
•“cried” – A loud voice, crying (as John the Baptist), even of the other prophets (Zec. 7:7; Rom. 9:27); one of pain, and also of desiring for the Desire of all nations (Jesus; Hag. 2:7); see Psa. 69:3; Mat. 3:3, 9:27, 20:30-31, 21:9,15; Mar. 1:3, 9:24, 10:47-48, 11:9; Luk. 3:4, 4:41, 18:39; Jhn. 1:15,23; Rom. 8:15; Gal. 4:6. The people ‘cried’ unto the LORD, in mercy, He delivered them (2 Chr. 32:20; Neh. 9:27-28; Psa. 3:4, 18:6, 22:5, 30:8, 107:6,13, etc).
•“travailing in birth” – The Church of God (Act. 7:38), the peoples Israel, were going through great struggles and sorrow (Ecc. 1:13, 2:23,26, 3:10, 4:4,6,8, 5:14) for a long time. They had been assaulted by Assyrians, Egyptians, Babylonians, Medo-Persians, Greecians and then they were again subjugated by the Roman Empire, and the Pharisees and Saduccees and even the High Priest were more political than anything else, and were corrupt (Luk. 3:1-2). The Prophecies of the Messiah were largely confused by the people (Mar. 12:24), though there were some faithful which were looking and understood somewhat (wisemen of the east, shepherds, Simeon, Anna a prophetess, etc). There had been many uprisings and revolts against the oppressions, but each time ending in failure (Dan. 11:14; Act. 5:36-37, 21:38). The time prophecies of Daniel (Dan. 9:20-27), upon which all the prophecies of the first coming/advent (Mat. 11:13; Luk. 16:16) of Christ were about to culminate in those years; see Gen. 35:16, 38:27-28; Exo. 18:8; Num. 20:14; 1 Sam. 4:19; Job. 15:20; Psa. 7:14, 48:5-6; Isa. 13:8, 21:3, 23:4, 26:17-18, 42:14, 53:11; Jer. 4:31, 6:24, 13:21, 22:23, 30:6, 31:8, 49:24, 50:43; Hos. 13:13; Mic. 4:9-10, 5:3; Luk. 2:11; Jhn. 16:21; Rom. 8:22; Gal. 4:19,27; Col. 1:27; 1 Thes. 2:9, 5:3; 2 Thes. 3:8.
•“pained” – Struggling, see Psa. 25:18; Jer. 4:19; Mar. 6:48.
•“to be delivered” – To give birth (to Jesus Christ, and/or His character, thus saved from sin); see 2 Ki. 19:3; Job. 5:19, 6:23, 33:24,28, 36:15; Psa. 6:4, 7:1, 18:2; Pro. 11:21; Isa. 26:17-18, 37:3, 61:1, 66:9; Mat. 6:13; Luk. 4:18, 11:4; Jhn. 16:21; Rom. 11:26; 1 Tim. 2:15.
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
•“she being with child” – Pregnant with the Messiah/Christ, the field having received the ‘seed’ (as of a mustard seed) of faith (Mat. 13:31, 17:20; Mar. 4:31; Luk. 13:19. 17:6), who when given (new) ‘birth’ (character of Christ formed within) to, bearing ‘fruit’ (Exo. 21:22; Gen. 1:11-12; 2 Ki. 19:30; Isa. 37:31; Eze. 17:8,23; Luk. 13:9; Jhn. 15:4), would be ‘delivered’, see Gen. 3:15, 16:11, 19:36, 38:24-25; 1 Sam. 4:19; 2 Sam. 11:5; Ecc. 11:5; Isa. 26:17-18, 54:1, 66:7-8; Mic. 5:3; Mat. 1:18,23, 24:19; Mar. 13:17; Luk. 21:23; Gal. 4:27; Rev. 12:17. – pre A.D., being B.C. (Did you know that a woman ‘sheds blood’ (works, filthy rags) until she receives ‘the seed’ (of Faith) – Mat. 9:20-22; Mar. 5:25-34; Luk. 8:43-48?)
•“cried” – A loud voice, crying (as John the Baptist), even of the other prophets (Zec. 7:7; Rom. 9:27); one of pain, and also of desiring for the Desire of all nations (Jesus; Hag. 2:7); see Psa. 69:3; Mat. 3:3, 9:27, 20:30-31, 21:9,15; Mar. 1:3, 9:24, 10:47-48, 11:9; Luk. 3:4, 4:41, 18:39; Jhn. 1:15,23; Rom. 8:15; Gal. 4:6. The people ‘cried’ unto the LORD, in mercy, He delivered them (2 Chr. 32:20; Neh. 9:27-28; Psa. 3:4, 18:6, 22:5, 30:8, 107:6,13, etc).
•“travailing in birth” – The Church of God (Act. 7:38), the peoples Israel, were going through great struggles and sorrow (Ecc. 1:13, 2:23,26, 3:10, 4:4,6,8, 5:14) for a long time. They had been assaulted by Assyrians, Egyptians, Babylonians, Medo-Persians, Greecians and then they were again subjugated by the Roman Empire, and the Pharisees and Saduccees and even the High Priest were more political than anything else, and were corrupt (Luk. 3:1-2). The Prophecies of the Messiah were largely confused by the people (Mar. 12:24), though there were some faithful which were looking and understood somewhat (wisemen of the east, shepherds, Simeon, Anna a prophetess, etc). There had been many uprisings and revolts against the oppressions, but each time ending in failure (Dan. 11:14; Act. 5:36-37, 21:38). The time prophecies of Daniel (Dan. 9:20-27), upon which all the prophecies of the first coming/advent (Mat. 11:13; Luk. 16:16) of Christ were about to culminate in those years; see Gen. 35:16, 38:27-28; Exo. 18:8; Num. 20:14; 1 Sam. 4:19; Job. 15:20; Psa. 7:14, 48:5-6; Isa. 13:8, 21:3, 23:4, 26:17-18, 42:14, 53:11; Jer. 4:31, 6:24, 13:21, 22:23, 30:6, 31:8, 49:24, 50:43; Hos. 13:13; Mic. 4:9-10, 5:3; Luk. 2:11; Jhn. 16:21; Rom. 8:22; Gal. 4:19,27; Col. 1:27; 1 Thes. 2:9, 5:3; 2 Thes. 3:8.
•“pained” – Struggling, see Psa. 25:18; Jer. 4:19; Mar. 6:48.
•“to be delivered” – To give birth (to Jesus Christ, and/or His character, thus saved from sin); see 2 Ki. 19:3; Job. 5:19, 6:23, 33:24,28, 36:15; Psa. 6:4, 7:1, 18:2; Pro. 11:21; Isa. 26:17-18, 37:3, 61:1, 66:9; Mat. 6:13; Luk. 4:18, 11:4; Jhn. 16:21; Rom. 11:26; 1 Tim. 2:15.
Revelation 12:3
•“a great red dragon” – (a fiery serpent, a beast; Isa. 13:22, 30:6, 43:20); The devil and Pagan Rome (a terrible dreadful Beast, which is a political body, or nation-state, kingdom (Gen. 49:9; Isa. 27:1, 46:11; Jer. 4:7, 5:6, 12:8, 25:38, 49:19, 50:44; Eze. 17:3,7, 32:2; Dan. 7:7,17,19,23, 8:20,21; Joe. 1:6; Mic. 5:8; Rev. 13:1,2,3,7,11,12, 17:3,7,8,11,12, etc.), which symbol was used of the Roman cavalry units on their standards/flags, ‘draco’) - Draco (military standard) - Wikipedia & Dacian Draco - Wikipedia ); see Gen. 3:1; Num. 21:6-9; Psa. 91:13; Isa. 1:18; Jer. 10:22, 46:22, 51:34; Mat. 23:33; Rev. 12:4,9, 13:2,4, 20:2.
•“having seven heads” – Chronological in time: Babylon (Lion, 1 Head), Medo-Persia (Bear, 1 Head), Greece (Leopard, 4 Heads), Pagan Rome (Dreadful & Terrible Beast, 1 Head) = 7 Heads, bring us down to the time of Pagan Rome; see Dan. 7:3-8,17,19,23.
•“and ten horns” – Chronological in time: The Ten Horns came later as Pagan Rome began to be divided and broken in pieces into individual nation-states; see Dan. 2:40, 7:7-8,20,24, 11:20; Psa. 72:4; “ten” is also the symbol of the ‘whole’ (wholly divided); see Ecc. 12:13-14, etc.
•“and seven crowns” – (These crowns are not on the horns, which were not yet ruling individually, for Pagan Rome was not yet divided, but were upon the Heads, as Pagan Rome was ruling, as it conquered the territory of the previous beasts), A crown, or royal diadem, is a symbol of rulership, judgment and glory and of the leading city, or capitol, of the nation (Isa. 7:8-9, 23:8), or of a king; see Exo. 39:30; Lev. 8:9; 2 Sam. 1:10, 12:30; 2 Ki. 11:12; 1 Chr. 20:2; 2 Chr. 23:11; Est. 1:11, 2:17, 6:8, 8:15; Job. 19:9, 29:14; Psa. 8:5; Isa. 28:5, 62:3; Jer. 13:18; Eze. 21:26; Rev. 13:1, 19:12.
•“upon his heads” – That which rules a body, such as a city (capitol) over a nation, a King to a Kingdom, or Husband to Wife, or Christ to the Church; and it also deals with the heart or mind (Isa. 1:5); see Deut. 28:13,44; Judg. 10:18; 1 Chr. 29:11; Psa. 18:43; Isa. 1:6, 7:8-9, 23:8; Jer. 22:6; Eze. 16:12; Dan. 2:32,38; Hos. 1:11; Jhn. 20:12; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 1:22, 4:15, 5:23; Col. 1:8, 2:10,19.
Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
•“And there appeared another wonder in heaven” – (‘in heaven’, Canaan, the promised land, a symbol of the real promised land, Heavenly Canaan); see 1 Cor. 10:6,11; Gen. 17:8; Exo. 20:12; 1 Chr. 16:18; Psa. 105:11, etc.); and what is amazing is that the Devil seeks to counterfeit everything of God; see Deut. 13:1-2; Mat. 24:24; Luk. 21:11; Rev. 13:13, 16:14; and satan at this time (pre A.D. 31, pre-Cross), still had access to Heaven (literally, for when Adam , the representative & steward of this world (Psa. 8:5; Heb. 2:9), sinned, he gave dominion over to satan; Psa. 94:20; Isa. 14:13; Luk. 4:6; Jhn. 12:31, 14:30; Eph. 2:2; 2 Cor. 4:4; Rev. 2:13, 13:2), see Job. 1:6-12, 2:1-7; 1 Ki. 22:19-32; 2 Chr. 18:18-22; Rev. 12:10.
•“a great red dragon” – (a fiery serpent, a beast; Isa. 13:22, 30:6, 43:20); The devil and Pagan Rome (a terrible dreadful Beast, which is a political body, or nation-state, kingdom (Gen. 49:9; Isa. 27:1, 46:11; Jer. 4:7, 5:6, 12:8, 25:38, 49:19, 50:44; Eze. 17:3,7, 32:2; Dan. 7:7,17,19,23, 8:20,21; Joe. 1:6; Mic. 5:8; Rev. 13:1,2,3,7,11,12, 17:3,7,8,11,12, etc.), which symbol was used of the Roman cavalry units on their standards/flags, ‘draco’) - Draco (military standard) - Wikipedia & Dacian Draco - Wikipedia ); see Gen. 3:1; Num. 21:6-9; Psa. 91:13; Isa. 1:18; Jer. 10:22, 46:22, 51:34; Mat. 23:33; Rev. 12:4,9, 13:2,4, 20:2.
•“having seven heads” – Chronological in time: Babylon (Lion, 1 Head), Medo-Persia (Bear, 1 Head), Greece (Leopard, 4 Heads), Pagan Rome (Dreadful & Terrible Beast, 1 Head) = 7 Heads, bring us down to the time of Pagan Rome; see Dan. 7:3-8,17,19,23.
•“and ten horns” – Chronological in time: The Ten Horns came later as Pagan Rome began to be divided and broken in pieces into individual nation-states; see Dan. 2:40, 7:7-8,20,24, 11:20; Psa. 72:4; “ten” is also the symbol of the ‘whole’ (wholly divided); see Ecc. 12:13-14, etc.
•“and seven crowns” – (These crowns are not on the horns, which were not yet ruling individually, for Pagan Rome was not yet divided, but were upon the Heads, as Pagan Rome was ruling, as it conquered the territory of the previous beasts), A crown, or royal diadem, is a symbol of rulership, judgment and glory and of the leading city, or capitol, of the nation (Isa. 7:8-9, 23:8), or of a king; see Exo. 39:30; Lev. 8:9; 2 Sam. 1:10, 12:30; 2 Ki. 11:12; 1 Chr. 20:2; 2 Chr. 23:11; Est. 1:11, 2:17, 6:8, 8:15; Job. 19:9, 29:14; Psa. 8:5; Isa. 28:5, 62:3; Jer. 13:18; Eze. 21:26; Rev. 13:1, 19:12.
•“upon his heads” – That which rules a body, such as a city (capitol) over a nation, a King to a Kingdom, or Husband to Wife, or Christ to the Church; and it also deals with the heart or mind (Isa. 1:5); see Deut. 28:13,44; Judg. 10:18; 1 Chr. 29:11; Psa. 18:43; Isa. 1:6, 7:8-9, 23:8; Jer. 22:6; Eze. 16:12; Dan. 2:32,38; Hos. 1:11; Jhn. 20:12; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 1:22, 4:15, 5:23; Col. 1:8, 2:10,19.
Revelation 12:4
•“And his tail” – The prophet that teaches lies (Jhn. 8:44; 1 Ki. 22:22-23; 2 Chr. 18:21-22), and that which is last on a body (Deut. 28:13,44), also likened unto the small stick or ‘rush’ (Isa. 19:15; Mal. 4:1), and ‘firebrands’ (that which is burning with smoke and fire (Amo. 4:11; Isa. 50:10-11); see Judg. 15:4; Isa. 7:4; one who ‘deceives’ Pro. 26:18-19); see Isa. 9:14-15; Eze. 28:18.
•“drew” – To lead by taking away, to separate from another; see Isa. 5:18; Act. 5:37, 20:30; Luk. 22:47; Heb. 10:38-39. Lucifer drew with lies, but God draws with love and truth, Son. 1:4; Hos. 11:4; Jhn. 6:44, 12:32; Heb. 7:19; Jam. 4:8.
•“the third part of” – Indicates that there are 3 parts, or 3/3rd’s; see 2 Sam. 18:2; 2 Ki. 11:5-6; 2 Chr. 23:4-5; Eze. 5:1-3,12; Zec. 13:8-9; Rev. 8:7-12, 9:15,18. God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are the true Light (Jhn. 1:9; 1 Jhn. 1:5; Rev. 21:23), even Christ the Morning Star (Rev. 2:28, 22:16), the Day Star (2 Pet. 1:19), while the angelic hosts became divided, there are now holy and unholy angels, all of whom are called stars (some fallen); see Job. 38:7; Psa. 147:4, 148:2-3; Isa. 14:13; Dan. 12:3; Mat. 2:2,7,9-10, 22:30; Mar. 12:25; 1 Cor. 15:39-44.
•“the stars of heaven” – Angels and men (and both apply here); see Gen. 22:17, 26:4, 37:9; Exo. 32:13; Num. 24:17; Deut. 1:10, 10:22, 28:62; Judg. 5:20; 1 Chr. 27:23; Neh. 9:23; Job. 25:5, 38:7; 147:4, 148:2-3; Isa. 14:13; Dan. 8:10, 12:3; Amo. 5:26; Mat. 2:2,7,9-10, 22:30; Mar. 12:25; 1 Cor. 15:39-44; Heb. 11:12; Jud. 1:13; Rev. 1:16,20, 2:1, 3:1, 12:4,7-9.
•“and did cast them to the earth” – to lower or bring down from an exalted position (such as Heaven, righteousness, holiness, godliness), to debase, to profane, make carnal, earthly; see Exo. 4:3; 2 Sam. 8:2; 2 Chr. 25:8; Job. 41:9; Psa. 36:12, 74:7, 89:44, 143:3, 147:6; Pro. 7:26; Isa. 14:12, 25:12, 26:5, 28:1-4, 29:4, 47:1; Lam. 2:1; Eze. 13:14, 19:12, 26:11, 28:17, 31:16; Dan. 8:7-12; Oba. 1:3; Luk. 13:7; Rev. 12:9,13.
•“and the dragon stood before the woman” – The devil, understanding prophecy, prepared himself to strike at the life of the Messiah/Christ as soon as possible, and used Herod, a client of Pagan Rome, to do this, and even does this to each individual who begins to manifest the birth of Christ Jesus within; see Mat. 2:1-18; Jer. 4:31, 31:15.
•“which was ready to be delivered” – Time prophecy was come, “the time is at hand”; see Isa. 7:14, 9:6; Mat. 4:17; Mar. 1:15; Luk. 1:35, 2:11; Jhn. 1:14; Rom. 11:26.
•“for to devour” – To swallow with the mouth (full of teeth, weapons) and take into possession of, to kill physically (with sword, or beast, etc) or spiritually; see Gen. 37:20,33; Lev. 10:11; Pro. 30:14; Dan. 7:7,19,23; Mal. 3:11; 1 Pet. 5:8.
•“her child” – The promised Messiah/Christ (and thus all in Him); see Gen. 3:15; Isa. 7:14, 9:6; Luk. 1:35, 2:11; Gal. 3:29.
•“as soon as it was born” – The devil was poised, as a coiled serpent, ready to strike the deadly blow (through fang or poison), even as it was in the days of Moses; see Exo. 1:15-22, 2:1-10; Mat. 2:1-18.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
•“And his tail” – The prophet that teaches lies (Jhn. 8:44; 1 Ki. 22:22-23; 2 Chr. 18:21-22), and that which is last on a body (Deut. 28:13,44), also likened unto the small stick or ‘rush’ (Isa. 19:15; Mal. 4:1), and ‘firebrands’ (that which is burning with smoke and fire (Amo. 4:11; Isa. 50:10-11); see Judg. 15:4; Isa. 7:4; one who ‘deceives’ Pro. 26:18-19); see Isa. 9:14-15; Eze. 28:18.
•“drew” – To lead by taking away, to separate from another; see Isa. 5:18; Act. 5:37, 20:30; Luk. 22:47; Heb. 10:38-39. Lucifer drew with lies, but God draws with love and truth, Son. 1:4; Hos. 11:4; Jhn. 6:44, 12:32; Heb. 7:19; Jam. 4:8.
•“the third part of” – Indicates that there are 3 parts, or 3/3rd’s; see 2 Sam. 18:2; 2 Ki. 11:5-6; 2 Chr. 23:4-5; Eze. 5:1-3,12; Zec. 13:8-9; Rev. 8:7-12, 9:15,18. God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are the true Light (Jhn. 1:9; 1 Jhn. 1:5; Rev. 21:23), even Christ the Morning Star (Rev. 2:28, 22:16), the Day Star (2 Pet. 1:19), while the angelic hosts became divided, there are now holy and unholy angels, all of whom are called stars (some fallen); see Job. 38:7; Psa. 147:4, 148:2-3; Isa. 14:13; Dan. 12:3; Mat. 2:2,7,9-10, 22:30; Mar. 12:25; 1 Cor. 15:39-44.
•“the stars of heaven” – Angels and men (and both apply here); see Gen. 22:17, 26:4, 37:9; Exo. 32:13; Num. 24:17; Deut. 1:10, 10:22, 28:62; Judg. 5:20; 1 Chr. 27:23; Neh. 9:23; Job. 25:5, 38:7; 147:4, 148:2-3; Isa. 14:13; Dan. 8:10, 12:3; Amo. 5:26; Mat. 2:2,7,9-10, 22:30; Mar. 12:25; 1 Cor. 15:39-44; Heb. 11:12; Jud. 1:13; Rev. 1:16,20, 2:1, 3:1, 12:4,7-9.
•“and did cast them to the earth” – to lower or bring down from an exalted position (such as Heaven, righteousness, holiness, godliness), to debase, to profane, make carnal, earthly; see Exo. 4:3; 2 Sam. 8:2; 2 Chr. 25:8; Job. 41:9; Psa. 36:12, 74:7, 89:44, 143:3, 147:6; Pro. 7:26; Isa. 14:12, 25:12, 26:5, 28:1-4, 29:4, 47:1; Lam. 2:1; Eze. 13:14, 19:12, 26:11, 28:17, 31:16; Dan. 8:7-12; Oba. 1:3; Luk. 13:7; Rev. 12:9,13.
•“and the dragon stood before the woman” – The devil, understanding prophecy, prepared himself to strike at the life of the Messiah/Christ as soon as possible, and used Herod, a client of Pagan Rome, to do this, and even does this to each individual who begins to manifest the birth of Christ Jesus within; see Mat. 2:1-18; Jer. 4:31, 31:15.
•“which was ready to be delivered” – Time prophecy was come, “the time is at hand”; see Isa. 7:14, 9:6; Mat. 4:17; Mar. 1:15; Luk. 1:35, 2:11; Jhn. 1:14; Rom. 11:26.
•“for to devour” – To swallow with the mouth (full of teeth, weapons) and take into possession of, to kill physically (with sword, or beast, etc) or spiritually; see Gen. 37:20,33; Lev. 10:11; Pro. 30:14; Dan. 7:7,19,23; Mal. 3:11; 1 Pet. 5:8.
•“her child” – The promised Messiah/Christ (and thus all in Him); see Gen. 3:15; Isa. 7:14, 9:6; Luk. 1:35, 2:11; Gal. 3:29.
•“as soon as it was born” – The devil was poised, as a coiled serpent, ready to strike the deadly blow (through fang or poison), even as it was in the days of Moses; see Exo. 1:15-22, 2:1-10; Mat. 2:1-18.
Davy
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Oh, yes the spiritual temple is... impossible to corrupt!
Eph 2:19-22
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
KJV
You reveal you don't even understand that simple Bible Scripture by Apostle Paul about the spiritual temple!!!
Can my Lord Jesus Christ be corrupted by any man??? No, of course not, otherwise our salvation promise He gave through His Own Blood would have been in vain!!
Could any man corrupt that building that is "an habitation of God through the Spirit"? Again NO WAY!
That's why it is so ignorant to try and apply the spiritual temple idea to the "temple of God" that Apostle Paul warned us that the coming "man of sin" will sit in to play God! That kind of thinking is the 'devil's' own doing that! They don't want God's people to beware of the coming Antichrist playing Messiah in Jerusalem with another physical temple at the end of this world. But that... is exactly what God's Word teaches for the end of this world, just prior to Christ's return.
Revelation 12:5
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
•“And she brought forth” – By promise of God, through Faith in the promise, Christ Jesus was born of a virgin, wrought by the Holy Ghost, as prophecy given of God foretold (and also includes all those who are born again, in Him, and He in them); see Isa. 9:6; Jhn. 1:13, 3:3,5; 1 Pet. 1:23; 1 Jhn. 3:9, 4:7, 5:1,4,18.
•“a man child” – Christ Jesus, the “holy child” (Mat. 1:18; Act. 4:27,30), the “babe” (Luk. 2:12,16), the second Adam, the Last Adam, the true Man, even the Son of Man (Pilate said: “Behold the Man!”, John the Baptist said: “Behold the Lamb!”) – Psa. 40:7-8; Mat. 4:4, 8:20, 16:13, 17:9,22, 19:28, 26:64; Mar. 14:62; Luk. 2:21,27,43, 4:4, 22:48; Jhn. 6:53, 8:28, 9:11, 12:23,34, 13:31, 19:5; Act. 2:22, 13:23; Rom. 5:15,17; 1 Cor. 15:22-23,45-47; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6:11; 2 Tim. 3:17; Heb. 10:5-9; Jesus also said that a man, must become as a ‘child’ (and He set the example, setting the ‘bar’, humbling Himself; Phil. 2:1-11); see Mat. 18:4; Mar. 10:15; Luk. 18:17.
•“who was to rule all nations” – (rule = G4165, ποιμαινειν) To be governor, guardian over the sheep as a Shepherd in caring and tending (Psa. 78:71-72; Isa. 40:11; Jer. 23:4-6; Eze. 34:17,20,22-25, 37:24-26; Mat. 2:6, 25:32-33; Luk. 17:7; Jhn. 21:16; Act. 20:28; 1 Cor. 9:7; 1 Pet. 2:25, 5:2; Jud. 1:12; Rev. 2:27, 7:17, 12:5, 19:15); see Gen. 49:10; Num. 24:19; 1 Chr. 5:2; Psa. 2:6,9-10; Isa. 9:6-7; Mat. 28:18; Eph. 1:22; Col. 1:18; Rev. 2:26-27, 11:15, 19:15.
•“with a rod of iron” – The Rod (King’s Sceptre) of the Shepherd, the ruling and corrector, judge, rod of inheritance, separator of chaff from wheat, voice of the LORD, that which is used to feed with, head over the house; see Gen. 49:10; Exo. 4:17; Lev. 27:32; Num. 17:3, 24:17; 2 Sam. 7:14, 23:21; 1 Chr. 11:23; Job. 9:34, 37:13; Psa. 23:4, 45:6; 74:2, 89:32, 110:2; Pro. 10:13, 13:24, 22:15, 23:13-14, 26:3, 29:15; Isa. 10:24, 11:1,4, 14:5,29, 28:27, 30:31; Jer. 10:16, 51:19; Lam. 3:1; Eze. 19:11,14, 20:37, 21:10,13; Amo. 1:5,8; Mic. 5:1, 7:14; Zec. 10:11; and a ‘rod’ is also a ‘tribe’ or people group (H7626), such as ‘Israel’ (Natural or Spiritual), see Gen. 49:16; Deut. 29:8; Jos. 13:6-7, 23:4; Psa. 78:55; Pro. 27:17; Isa. 10:4-5,15, 49:6; Jer. 1:18; Eze. 37:19; and "iron" is that which breaks in pieces all others; symbol of strength, even of defense (walls of iron, etc), see Lev. 26:19; Job. 28:2, 40:18; Pro. 27:17; Jer. 15:12; Dan. 2:40, and thus a “rod of iron”, see Num. 35:16; Psa. 2:9; Isa. 11:4; Rev. 2:27, 12:5, 19:15.
•“and her child was caught up unto God” – Christ Jesus ascended to His Father in the 3rd Heaven (this the second time, according to typology (Num. 7:1; Heb. 9:18-21), the first (Jhn. 20:17; see also EW (1882) 187.1-.2; 3SP (1878) 201.2-217.3; 1SG (1858) 73.1-74.2) was right after His Resurrection (Mat. 28:9; Psa. 61:5, 116:14,18), the second time was 40 days later, 10 days before Pentecost, the 50th Day (Act. 1:3, etc), just before the outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon the Head (Christ Jesus) in Heaven, that Holy Oil (symbol of the Holy Spirit) running down unto the Body (the church) on earth which was then in Unity of spirit and in truth; Lev. 8:12; Psa. 24:1-10, 68:18, 133:1-3; Joe. 2:28-29; Mar. 16:19; Luk. 24:51; Jhn. 14:3; Act. 1:3,9-11, 2:2-4,33; Eph. 4:8; Heb. 4:14,16, 6:19-20; Rev. 5:6) into Heaven from the Mount of Olives after His Death and Resurrection; see also Eze. 28:13, 31:8-9, 36:35; Joe. 2:3; Luk. 23:43; 2 Cor. 12:2,4; Eph. 4:9-10; 1 Thes. 4:17; Rev. 2:7.
•“and to his throne” – The Throne of the Father (Rev. 3:21), as moved from the Most Holy Place to the Holy Place in the Heavenly Sanctuary, which was being represented by the ‘Table of Shewbread’ (The Table in the Sanctuary is on the Right side, which is the North Side. Exo. 26:35, 40:22; Isa. 14:13; Psa. 75:6; and it had a “a crown of gold” – Exo. 25:24; 2 places (Father & Son) – Lev. 24:5-7; “bread” – Deut. 8:3; Mat. 4:4; Luk. 4:4; Jhn. 6:57, 14:24. “right hand”. God's Throne is movable, see Ezekiel, wheels, etc. God the Father and Throne began in the Most Holy Place, and moved to meet Jesus in the Holy Place in Revelation 4. In Revelation 3, they moved into the Most Holy Place. Notice the words, “set” and “sat”.); see Rev. 4:2-6, 5:1-14; 1 Ki. 22:19; 2 Chr. 18:18; Psa. 11:4; Mat. 5:34, 23:22; Act. 7:49; Rev. 16:17, 20:11.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
•“And she brought forth” – By promise of God, through Faith in the promise, Christ Jesus was born of a virgin, wrought by the Holy Ghost, as prophecy given of God foretold (and also includes all those who are born again, in Him, and He in them); see Isa. 9:6; Jhn. 1:13, 3:3,5; 1 Pet. 1:23; 1 Jhn. 3:9, 4:7, 5:1,4,18.
•“a man child” – Christ Jesus, the “holy child” (Mat. 1:18; Act. 4:27,30), the “babe” (Luk. 2:12,16), the second Adam, the Last Adam, the true Man, even the Son of Man (Pilate said: “Behold the Man!”, John the Baptist said: “Behold the Lamb!”) – Psa. 40:7-8; Mat. 4:4, 8:20, 16:13, 17:9,22, 19:28, 26:64; Mar. 14:62; Luk. 2:21,27,43, 4:4, 22:48; Jhn. 6:53, 8:28, 9:11, 12:23,34, 13:31, 19:5; Act. 2:22, 13:23; Rom. 5:15,17; 1 Cor. 15:22-23,45-47; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6:11; 2 Tim. 3:17; Heb. 10:5-9; Jesus also said that a man, must become as a ‘child’ (and He set the example, setting the ‘bar’, humbling Himself; Phil. 2:1-11); see Mat. 18:4; Mar. 10:15; Luk. 18:17.
•“who was to rule all nations” – (rule = G4165, ποιμαινειν) To be governor, guardian over the sheep as a Shepherd in caring and tending (Psa. 78:71-72; Isa. 40:11; Jer. 23:4-6; Eze. 34:17,20,22-25, 37:24-26; Mat. 2:6, 25:32-33; Luk. 17:7; Jhn. 21:16; Act. 20:28; 1 Cor. 9:7; 1 Pet. 2:25, 5:2; Jud. 1:12; Rev. 2:27, 7:17, 12:5, 19:15); see Gen. 49:10; Num. 24:19; 1 Chr. 5:2; Psa. 2:6,9-10; Isa. 9:6-7; Mat. 28:18; Eph. 1:22; Col. 1:18; Rev. 2:26-27, 11:15, 19:15.
•“with a rod of iron” – The Rod (King’s Sceptre) of the Shepherd, the ruling and corrector, judge, rod of inheritance, separator of chaff from wheat, voice of the LORD, that which is used to feed with, head over the house; see Gen. 49:10; Exo. 4:17; Lev. 27:32; Num. 17:3, 24:17; 2 Sam. 7:14, 23:21; 1 Chr. 11:23; Job. 9:34, 37:13; Psa. 23:4, 45:6; 74:2, 89:32, 110:2; Pro. 10:13, 13:24, 22:15, 23:13-14, 26:3, 29:15; Isa. 10:24, 11:1,4, 14:5,29, 28:27, 30:31; Jer. 10:16, 51:19; Lam. 3:1; Eze. 19:11,14, 20:37, 21:10,13; Amo. 1:5,8; Mic. 5:1, 7:14; Zec. 10:11; and a ‘rod’ is also a ‘tribe’ or people group (H7626), such as ‘Israel’ (Natural or Spiritual), see Gen. 49:16; Deut. 29:8; Jos. 13:6-7, 23:4; Psa. 78:55; Pro. 27:17; Isa. 10:4-5,15, 49:6; Jer. 1:18; Eze. 37:19; and "iron" is that which breaks in pieces all others; symbol of strength, even of defense (walls of iron, etc), see Lev. 26:19; Job. 28:2, 40:18; Pro. 27:17; Jer. 15:12; Dan. 2:40, and thus a “rod of iron”, see Num. 35:16; Psa. 2:9; Isa. 11:4; Rev. 2:27, 12:5, 19:15.
•“and her child was caught up unto God” – Christ Jesus ascended to His Father in the 3rd Heaven (this the second time, according to typology (Num. 7:1; Heb. 9:18-21), the first (Jhn. 20:17; see also EW (1882) 187.1-.2; 3SP (1878) 201.2-217.3; 1SG (1858) 73.1-74.2) was right after His Resurrection (Mat. 28:9; Psa. 61:5, 116:14,18), the second time was 40 days later, 10 days before Pentecost, the 50th Day (Act. 1:3, etc), just before the outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon the Head (Christ Jesus) in Heaven, that Holy Oil (symbol of the Holy Spirit) running down unto the Body (the church) on earth which was then in Unity of spirit and in truth; Lev. 8:12; Psa. 24:1-10, 68:18, 133:1-3; Joe. 2:28-29; Mar. 16:19; Luk. 24:51; Jhn. 14:3; Act. 1:3,9-11, 2:2-4,33; Eph. 4:8; Heb. 4:14,16, 6:19-20; Rev. 5:6) into Heaven from the Mount of Olives after His Death and Resurrection; see also Eze. 28:13, 31:8-9, 36:35; Joe. 2:3; Luk. 23:43; 2 Cor. 12:2,4; Eph. 4:9-10; 1 Thes. 4:17; Rev. 2:7.
•“and to his throne” – The Throne of the Father (Rev. 3:21), as moved from the Most Holy Place to the Holy Place in the Heavenly Sanctuary, which was being represented by the ‘Table of Shewbread’ (The Table in the Sanctuary is on the Right side, which is the North Side. Exo. 26:35, 40:22; Isa. 14:13; Psa. 75:6; and it had a “a crown of gold” – Exo. 25:24; 2 places (Father & Son) – Lev. 24:5-7; “bread” – Deut. 8:3; Mat. 4:4; Luk. 4:4; Jhn. 6:57, 14:24. “right hand”. God's Throne is movable, see Ezekiel, wheels, etc. God the Father and Throne began in the Most Holy Place, and moved to meet Jesus in the Holy Place in Revelation 4. In Revelation 3, they moved into the Most Holy Place. Notice the words, “set” and “sat”.); see Rev. 4:2-6, 5:1-14; 1 Ki. 22:19; 2 Chr. 18:18; Psa. 11:4; Mat. 5:34, 23:22; Act. 7:49; Rev. 16:17, 20:11.
Revelation 12:6
•“and the woman fled” – Run or flee for fear, from persecution, escape to save the life as Elijah did in the days of Jezebel (1 Ki. 19:3-8; Pro. 21:9,19, 25:24) or as Moses unto a wilderness with 7 sisters (Exo. 2:11-22), see 2 Sam. 15:14; 2 Ki. 9:3; Jer. 6:1, 48:6,9; Amo. 7:12-13; Mat. 2:13, 10:23, 24:26; Mar. 13:14; Luk. 21:21; Jhn. 10:5; Act. 7:29, 8:1,4-5,25,40, 9:2, 14:6, etc.; Heb. 11:34; Rev. 12:14.
•“into the wilderness” – A place of little waters, or population, a place of desolation, obscurity; see Gen. 1:9-10; Psa. 63:1, 107:33; Pro. 21:19; Isa. 14:17, 41:18; Jer. 50:12-13, 51:43; Eze. 19:13; Hos. 2:3,14, 13:5; Zep. 2:13; Mat. 15:33; Mar. 8:4; Luk. 5:16; Jhn. 11:54; 2 Cor. 11:26; Rev. 12:6,14,16; Rev. 12:6,14, 17:3; (see also Moses, Exo. 16:1-3,10,14; Psa. 68:7, 78:15,17,19,40,52, 95:8, 102:6, 106:14,26, 107:4, 136:16; Jhn. 3:14, 6:49; Act. 7:30,36,38,42,44, 13:18; 1 Cor. 10:5; Heb. 3:8,17 ); the opposite of which is waters, a place of dense population and many cities; see Gen. 1:10; Psa. 65:7, 107:35; Isa. 17:12-13; Jer. 51:42; Rev. 13:1, 17:15.
•“where she hath a place prepared of God” – The wilderness experience; see Psa. 68:10; Isa. 64:4; Jon. 4:6,8; 1 Cor. 2:9; Heb. 11:16; see also (Jesus) Mat. 4:1; Mar. 1:12-13; Luk. 4:1; Jhn. 14:1-18; (John the Baptist) Mat. 3:1,3, 11:7; Mar. 1:3-4 Luk. 3:2,4, 7:24; Jhn. 1:23.
•“that they should feed her there” – Fed of God, through His word, and by the people dwelling in the ‘wilderness’; see Exo. 16:32; Deut. 8:3; Psa. 81:16; Hos. 11:4; Joe. 2:26; Mat. 4:4, 6:26, 25:37; Luk. 4:4, 12:24; Jhn. 6:57; 1 Cor. 10:1-5,11; Rev. 12:14 (“nourished”, see also Act. 12:20; Jam. 5:5; “brought up”, Luk. 4:16).
•“a thousand two hundred and threescore days” – A section of 2,300 years (Dan. 8:13-14,26; Rev. 9:13-15), which is 1,260 years (a day for a year*; Num. 14:34; Eze. 4:6), from A.D. 538 unto A.D. 1798: “until a time and times and the dividing of time”, Dan. 7:25; “for a time, times, and an half”, Dan. 12:7; “forty and two months”, Rev. 11:2; “a thousand two hundred and threescore days”, Rev. 11:3; “a thousand two hundred and threescore days”, Rev. 12:6; “for a time, and times, and half a time”, Rev. 12:14; “forty and two months”, Rev. 13:5; see also, “many days”, Dan. 11:33; see also “Gentiles”, Rev. 11:2; “until the times of the Gentiles”, Luk. 21:24; see also, “Who is this that cometh out of the wilderness”, Son. 3:6, 8:5.
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Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
•“and the woman fled” – Run or flee for fear, from persecution, escape to save the life as Elijah did in the days of Jezebel (1 Ki. 19:3-8; Pro. 21:9,19, 25:24) or as Moses unto a wilderness with 7 sisters (Exo. 2:11-22), see 2 Sam. 15:14; 2 Ki. 9:3; Jer. 6:1, 48:6,9; Amo. 7:12-13; Mat. 2:13, 10:23, 24:26; Mar. 13:14; Luk. 21:21; Jhn. 10:5; Act. 7:29, 8:1,4-5,25,40, 9:2, 14:6, etc.; Heb. 11:34; Rev. 12:14.
•“into the wilderness” – A place of little waters, or population, a place of desolation, obscurity; see Gen. 1:9-10; Psa. 63:1, 107:33; Pro. 21:19; Isa. 14:17, 41:18; Jer. 50:12-13, 51:43; Eze. 19:13; Hos. 2:3,14, 13:5; Zep. 2:13; Mat. 15:33; Mar. 8:4; Luk. 5:16; Jhn. 11:54; 2 Cor. 11:26; Rev. 12:6,14,16; Rev. 12:6,14, 17:3; (see also Moses, Exo. 16:1-3,10,14; Psa. 68:7, 78:15,17,19,40,52, 95:8, 102:6, 106:14,26, 107:4, 136:16; Jhn. 3:14, 6:49; Act. 7:30,36,38,42,44, 13:18; 1 Cor. 10:5; Heb. 3:8,17 ); the opposite of which is waters, a place of dense population and many cities; see Gen. 1:10; Psa. 65:7, 107:35; Isa. 17:12-13; Jer. 51:42; Rev. 13:1, 17:15.
•“where she hath a place prepared of God” – The wilderness experience; see Psa. 68:10; Isa. 64:4; Jon. 4:6,8; 1 Cor. 2:9; Heb. 11:16; see also (Jesus) Mat. 4:1; Mar. 1:12-13; Luk. 4:1; Jhn. 14:1-18; (John the Baptist) Mat. 3:1,3, 11:7; Mar. 1:3-4 Luk. 3:2,4, 7:24; Jhn. 1:23.
•“that they should feed her there” – Fed of God, through His word, and by the people dwelling in the ‘wilderness’; see Exo. 16:32; Deut. 8:3; Psa. 81:16; Hos. 11:4; Joe. 2:26; Mat. 4:4, 6:26, 25:37; Luk. 4:4, 12:24; Jhn. 6:57; 1 Cor. 10:1-5,11; Rev. 12:14 (“nourished”, see also Act. 12:20; Jam. 5:5; “brought up”, Luk. 4:16).
•“a thousand two hundred and threescore days” – A section of 2,300 years (Dan. 8:13-14,26; Rev. 9:13-15), which is 1,260 years (a day for a year*; Num. 14:34; Eze. 4:6), from A.D. 538 unto A.D. 1798: “until a time and times and the dividing of time”, Dan. 7:25; “for a time, times, and an half”, Dan. 12:7; “forty and two months”, Rev. 11:2; “a thousand two hundred and threescore days”, Rev. 11:3; “a thousand two hundred and threescore days”, Rev. 12:6; “for a time, and times, and half a time”, Rev. 12:14; “forty and two months”, Rev. 13:5; see also, “many days”, Dan. 11:33; see also “Gentiles”, Rev. 11:2; “until the times of the Gentiles”, Luk. 21:24; see also, “Who is this that cometh out of the wilderness”, Son. 3:6, 8:5.
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Revelation 12:7
•“And there was war in heaven” – A Great Controversy; a War of ideas, mind/heart against mind/heart (spiritual; Jam. 4:1; Rev. 2:16), leading to war of strength/arm against strength/arm (physical) (G4171; πολεμος); see Mar. 13:7; Luk. 14:31, 21:9; 1 Cor. 14:8; Heb. 11:34; Rev. 9:7,9, 12:7, 13:7, 16:14, 19:19, 20:8; see also (G4170; πολεμέω) Jam. 4:2; Rev. 2:16, 12:7, 13:4, 17:14, 19:11; see also Isa. 34:5; Dan. 9:26; Eph. 6:12.
•“Michael” – “Who is like unto God” (Jesus); Dan. 10:13,21, 21:1; 1 Thes. 4:16; Jud. 1:9; Rev. 12:7 (Character; Heb. 1:3, “the express image”; G5481; χαρακτηρ; see also Col. 1:15, “Who is the image of the invisible God”; Jhn. 17:6, “I have manifested thy name”; 2 Cor. 4:4, “Christ, who is the image of God”; see also “image” - Gen. 1:26-27, 5:1, 9:6; Rom. 1:23; 1 Cor. 11:7, 15:45-49.); see also Exo. 8:10, 15:11; 1 Ki. 8:23; Psa. 71:19; see also Deut. 33:26; 2 Chr. 6:14; Job. 36:22; Psa. 35:10, 86:8, 89:8, 113:5; Jer. 10:6-7; Mic. 7:18.
•“and his angels” – those sent Legions of Light; the Heavenly (and earthly) ministers of God, who obey His commandments; see Psa. 103:20-21, 104:4; Heb. 1:7,9,13-14 and see also the Ten thousands of angels, the hosts of Heaven, Deut. 33:2; Psa. 68:17; Son. 5:10; Dan. 7:10; Zec. 14:5; Mat. 13:41, 16:27, 24:30, 25:31, 26:53,64; Mar. 8:38, 14:62; Luk. 9:26, 14:31; Jhn. 1:51; 1 Thes. 4:16; 2 Thes. 1:7; Jud. 1:14; Rev. 1:7, 5:11; see also (true) 1 Cor. 4:15; (counterfeit) 2 Cor. 11:13-15. For more texts on “angels”, see ‘Michael the archangel [03] - The word “angel” as defined and used’
•“fought against” – To war (see notes on “And there was war in heaven”); see also Exo. 14:14, 15:3; Deut. 1:30, 3:22, 20:4; Jos. 10:29,31,34,36,38; Judg. 5:20; 2 Sam. 12:29; 2 Chr. 20:17,29; Psa. 93:1, 109:3; Isa. 42:13, 63:10; Zec. 14:12; 2 Tim. 2:5.
•“the dragon” – The one-time anointed cherub Lucifer (Isa. 14:12; Eze. 28:12-19), arch-angel of evil, now serpent, that Leviathan, satan, the devil, that lying spirit, the accuser of the brethren, the deceiver, the destroyer; King over the children of pride – Gen. 3:1; 1 Ki. 22:22-23; 2 Chr. 18:21-22; Job. 1:6-12, 2:1-7, 41:1-34; Isa. 27:1, 51:9; Eze. 29:3; Dan. 10:13,20; Luk. 10:18; 2 Cor. 11:3,14; Eph. 2:2; Jud. 1:6; Rev. 9:11, 12:9, 20:2.
•“and his angels” – The fallen hosts of heaven (and earth) who followed Lucifer in rebellion, known as the ‘devils’, or ‘children of disobedience’; see Mat. 8:29; Mar. 5:9,15; Luk. 8:30, 10:17; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Eph. 2:2, 5:6, 6:12; Col. 3:6; 2 Pet. 2:4; Jud. 1:6.
•“and the dragon fought and his angels” – Lucifer (the ‘anointed cherub’ (Eze. 28:14) who wanted the place of the Son of God (Isa. 14:13-14; thus became anti-Christ)) and those who joined with him, rebelled against God, see also Job. 1:6-12, 2:1-7; Dan. 10:13,20-21; Zec. 3:1-2; Jud. 1:9 See notes on “And there was war in heaven”.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
•“And there was war in heaven” – A Great Controversy; a War of ideas, mind/heart against mind/heart (spiritual; Jam. 4:1; Rev. 2:16), leading to war of strength/arm against strength/arm (physical) (G4171; πολεμος); see Mar. 13:7; Luk. 14:31, 21:9; 1 Cor. 14:8; Heb. 11:34; Rev. 9:7,9, 12:7, 13:7, 16:14, 19:19, 20:8; see also (G4170; πολεμέω) Jam. 4:2; Rev. 2:16, 12:7, 13:4, 17:14, 19:11; see also Isa. 34:5; Dan. 9:26; Eph. 6:12.
•See also the uses in the so-called * LXX (Septuagint) -
•πολεμέω (war; Exo. 17:8, etc.) - Kata Biblon Wiki Lexicon - πολεμέω - to wage war (v.)
•πόλεμος (war; Gen. 14:2, etc.) - Kata Biblon Wiki Lexicon - πόλεμος - war (n.)
•πολεμόω [LXX] (provoke to war; (Apocrypha) 4 Mac. 4:21) - Kata Biblon Wiki Lexicon - πολεμόω - to provoke to war against (v.)
•πόλεμος (war; Gen. 14:2, etc.) - Kata Biblon Wiki Lexicon - πόλεμος - war (n.)
•πολεμόω [LXX] (provoke to war; (Apocrypha) 4 Mac. 4:21) - Kata Biblon Wiki Lexicon - πολεμόω - to provoke to war against (v.)
•“Michael” – “Who is like unto God” (Jesus); Dan. 10:13,21, 21:1; 1 Thes. 4:16; Jud. 1:9; Rev. 12:7 (Character; Heb. 1:3, “the express image”; G5481; χαρακτηρ; see also Col. 1:15, “Who is the image of the invisible God”; Jhn. 17:6, “I have manifested thy name”; 2 Cor. 4:4, “Christ, who is the image of God”; see also “image” - Gen. 1:26-27, 5:1, 9:6; Rom. 1:23; 1 Cor. 11:7, 15:45-49.); see also Exo. 8:10, 15:11; 1 Ki. 8:23; Psa. 71:19; see also Deut. 33:26; 2 Chr. 6:14; Job. 36:22; Psa. 35:10, 86:8, 89:8, 113:5; Jer. 10:6-7; Mic. 7:18.
For more on this subject, see - Specialized Study – Michael the archangel
•“and his angels” – those sent Legions of Light; the Heavenly (and earthly) ministers of God, who obey His commandments; see Psa. 103:20-21, 104:4; Heb. 1:7,9,13-14 and see also the Ten thousands of angels, the hosts of Heaven, Deut. 33:2; Psa. 68:17; Son. 5:10; Dan. 7:10; Zec. 14:5; Mat. 13:41, 16:27, 24:30, 25:31, 26:53,64; Mar. 8:38, 14:62; Luk. 9:26, 14:31; Jhn. 1:51; 1 Thes. 4:16; 2 Thes. 1:7; Jud. 1:14; Rev. 1:7, 5:11; see also (true) 1 Cor. 4:15; (counterfeit) 2 Cor. 11:13-15. For more texts on “angels”, see ‘Michael the archangel [03] - The word “angel” as defined and used’
•“fought against” – To war (see notes on “And there was war in heaven”); see also Exo. 14:14, 15:3; Deut. 1:30, 3:22, 20:4; Jos. 10:29,31,34,36,38; Judg. 5:20; 2 Sam. 12:29; 2 Chr. 20:17,29; Psa. 93:1, 109:3; Isa. 42:13, 63:10; Zec. 14:12; 2 Tim. 2:5.
•“the dragon” – The one-time anointed cherub Lucifer (Isa. 14:12; Eze. 28:12-19), arch-angel of evil, now serpent, that Leviathan, satan, the devil, that lying spirit, the accuser of the brethren, the deceiver, the destroyer; King over the children of pride – Gen. 3:1; 1 Ki. 22:22-23; 2 Chr. 18:21-22; Job. 1:6-12, 2:1-7, 41:1-34; Isa. 27:1, 51:9; Eze. 29:3; Dan. 10:13,20; Luk. 10:18; 2 Cor. 11:3,14; Eph. 2:2; Jud. 1:6; Rev. 9:11, 12:9, 20:2.
•“and his angels” – The fallen hosts of heaven (and earth) who followed Lucifer in rebellion, known as the ‘devils’, or ‘children of disobedience’; see Mat. 8:29; Mar. 5:9,15; Luk. 8:30, 10:17; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Eph. 2:2, 5:6, 6:12; Col. 3:6; 2 Pet. 2:4; Jud. 1:6.
•General texts on “Satan”: 1 Chr. 1:21; Psa. 109:6; Zec. 3:1,2; Mat. 4:10, 12:26, 16:23; Mar. 1:13,23,26, 4:15, 8:33; Luk. 4:8, 11:18, 13:16, 22:3,31; Jhn. 13:27; Act. 5:3, 26:18; Rom. 16:20; 1 Cor. 5:5, 7:5; 2 Cor. 2:11, 12:7; 1 Thes. 2:18; 2 Thes. 2:9; 1 Tim. 1:20, 5:15; Rev. 2:9,13,24, 3:9, 12:9, 20:2,7.
•The Legions of ‘Lie-ght’:
•The “devils”, aka fallen evil angels and lesser evil arch-angels:
•The order of the wicked, the “Legion”:
•The “devil”: Mat. 4:1,5,8,11, 13:39, 25:41; Luk. 4:2,3,5,6,13, 8:12; Jhn. 8:44, 13:2; Act. 10:38, 13:10; Eph. 4:27, 6:11; 1 Tim. 3:6,7; 2 Tim. 2:26; Heb. 2:14; Jam. 4:7; 1 Pet. 5:8; 1 Jhn. 3:8,10; Jud. 1:9; Rev. 2:10, 12:9,12, 20:2,10.
•That “lying spirit”: 1 Ki. 22:22-23; 2 Chr. 18:21-22.
•The “Serpent”: Gen. 3:1,2,4,13,14; Isa. 27:1; 2 Cor. 11:3; Rev. 12:9,14,15, 20:2.
•The “Dragon”: Isa. 27:1, 51:9; Eze. 29:3; Rev. 12:3,4,7,9,13,16,17, 13:2,4,11, 16:13, 20:2.
•The “Leviathan”: Job. 41:1; Psa. 74:14, 104:26; Isa. 27:1.
•The “Wicked”: Mat. 13:19,38; Eph. 6:6; 2 Thes. 2:8; 1 Jhn. 2:13,14, 3:12, 5:18.
•The “Baalzebub”, “Beelzebub”: 2 Ki. 1:2,3,6,16; Mat. 10:25, 12:24,27; Mar. 3:22; Luk. 11:15,18,19.
•The “roaring lion”: Prov. 28:15; 1 Pet. 5:8.
•The “angel of the bottomless pit”, “Abaddon”, “Apollyon” (‘destroyer’) – Rev. 9:11.
•The “throne of iniquity”, even “Satan's seat”, “god of this world” by which he rules over the children of disobedience, whether those angelic begins fallen from heaven, or those children of Adam of the earth: Psa. 1:1, 94:20; Isa. 14:13; Eze. 8:3; Hag. 2:22; 2 Cor. 4:4; Rev. 2:13, 13:2, 16:10.
•That “lying spirit”: 1 Ki. 22:22-23; 2 Chr. 18:21-22.
•The “Serpent”: Gen. 3:1,2,4,13,14; Isa. 27:1; 2 Cor. 11:3; Rev. 12:9,14,15, 20:2.
•The “Dragon”: Isa. 27:1, 51:9; Eze. 29:3; Rev. 12:3,4,7,9,13,16,17, 13:2,4,11, 16:13, 20:2.
•The “Leviathan”: Job. 41:1; Psa. 74:14, 104:26; Isa. 27:1.
•The “Wicked”: Mat. 13:19,38; Eph. 6:6; 2 Thes. 2:8; 1 Jhn. 2:13,14, 3:12, 5:18.
•The “Baalzebub”, “Beelzebub”: 2 Ki. 1:2,3,6,16; Mat. 10:25, 12:24,27; Mar. 3:22; Luk. 11:15,18,19.
•The “roaring lion”: Prov. 28:15; 1 Pet. 5:8.
•The “angel of the bottomless pit”, “Abaddon”, “Apollyon” (‘destroyer’) – Rev. 9:11.
•The “throne of iniquity”, even “Satan's seat”, “god of this world” by which he rules over the children of disobedience, whether those angelic begins fallen from heaven, or those children of Adam of the earth: Psa. 1:1, 94:20; Isa. 14:13; Eze. 8:3; Hag. 2:22; 2 Cor. 4:4; Rev. 2:13, 13:2, 16:10.
•The Legions of ‘Lie-ght’:
•Jude 1:6 KJB - And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
•The “devils”, aka fallen evil angels and lesser evil arch-angels:
•Lev. 17:7; Deut. 32:17; 2 Chr. 11:15; Psa. 106:37; Mat. 4:24, 7:22, 8:16,28,31,33, 9:32,33,34, 10:8, 11:18, 12:22,24,27,28, 15:22, 17:18; Mar. 1:32,34,39, 3:15,22, 5:12,15,16,18, 6:13, 7:26,29,30, 9:38, 16:9,17; Luk. 4:35,41, 7:33, 8:2,27,30,33,35,36,38, 9:1,42,49, 10:17, 11:14,15,18,19,20, 13:32; Jhn. 6:70, 7:20, 8:48,49,52, 10:20,21; 1 Cor. 10:20,21; 1 Tim. 4:1; Jam. 2:19; Rev. 9:20, 16:14, 18:2.
•The order of the wicked, the “Legion”:
•Mar. 5:8-15; Luk. 8:27-33.
•“and the dragon fought and his angels” – Lucifer (the ‘anointed cherub’ (Eze. 28:14) who wanted the place of the Son of God (Isa. 14:13-14; thus became anti-Christ)) and those who joined with him, rebelled against God, see also Job. 1:6-12, 2:1-7; Dan. 10:13,20-21; Zec. 3:1-2; Jud. 1:9 See notes on “And there was war in heaven”.
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Revelation 12:8
•“And prevailed not” – The Son of God won, the son of perdition lost, see also 1 Sam. 2:9, 17:50; 2 Sam. 32:12; 1 Chr. 29:11; 2 Chr. 14:11; Psa. 9:19, 12:4, 13:4-5, 98:1-3, 129:2; Ecc. 4:12; Son. 8:7; Isa. 42:13; Jer. 1:19, 5:22, 15:20, 20:11; Mat. 16:15-18; Act. 19:20; 1 Cor. 15:57; Col. 2:15; 1 Jhn. 4:4, 5:4; Rev. 3:21, 5:5.
•“neither was their place found any more in heaven” – All their ‘offices’ became vacant (Jud. 1:6), and ready to receive new ministers, the redeemed of God, the new light-bearers; see Psa. 24:3-4, 37:10; Eze. 28:19; Dan. 2:35, 12:1; Mat. 11:23, 23:12; Luk. 1:52, 10:15, 14:11, 18:14; Jhn. 14:1-3; Eph. 4:27; Rev. 20:11,15.
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
•“And prevailed not” – The Son of God won, the son of perdition lost, see also 1 Sam. 2:9, 17:50; 2 Sam. 32:12; 1 Chr. 29:11; 2 Chr. 14:11; Psa. 9:19, 12:4, 13:4-5, 98:1-3, 129:2; Ecc. 4:12; Son. 8:7; Isa. 42:13; Jer. 1:19, 5:22, 15:20, 20:11; Mat. 16:15-18; Act. 19:20; 1 Cor. 15:57; Col. 2:15; 1 Jhn. 4:4, 5:4; Rev. 3:21, 5:5.
•“neither was their place found any more in heaven” – All their ‘offices’ became vacant (Jud. 1:6), and ready to receive new ministers, the redeemed of God, the new light-bearers; see Psa. 24:3-4, 37:10; Eze. 28:19; Dan. 2:35, 12:1; Mat. 11:23, 23:12; Luk. 1:52, 10:15, 14:11, 18:14; Jhn. 14:1-3; Eph. 4:27; Rev. 20:11,15.
Revelation 12:9
•“And the great dragon was cast out” – The ‘scorner’ was ‘cast out’ of the Heavenly temple for being a ‘money changer’ (Eze. 28:5,16,18), see Gen. 21:10; Lev. 20:23; Deut. 6:19; Pro. 22:10; Jer. 7:15; Zep. 3:15; Zec. 1:21; Mat. 5:13, 8:12,16, 9:33, 10:8, 12:26-28, 21:12; Mar. 1:34,39, 3:15,23, 6:13, 9:38, 11:15, 16:17; Luk. 9:49, 11:14,18-20,32, 19:45; Jhn. 6:37; Gal. 4:30.
•“that old” – Ancient, and part of the ‘old creation’, and thus will pass away, not being part of the New Creation, not found in Christ Jesus; see Gen. 3:1; Psa. 102:26; Isa. 51:6; 2 Cor. 5:17; Heb. 1:11; 2 Pet. 2:5; Rev. 20:2.
•“serpent” – Venomous and subtil beast, the devil; Gen. 3:1-2,4,13,14; Psa. 58:4, 140:3; Pro. 23:32; Ecc. 10:11; Isa. 27:1; Mic. 7:17; Luk. 11:11,13; 2 Cor. 11:3; Rev. 12:14-15, 20:2.
•“called the Devil” – Named (character, “as his name is, so is he”; 1 Sam. 25:25) “Slanderer”, “false accuser” (devil); see 1 Jhn. 3:8,10; 1 Tim. 3:11; 2 Tim. 3:3; Tit. 2:3.
•“and Satan” – Named “adversary” (H7853,H7854; G4566,G4567), “accusing”; see 2 Sam. 19:22; 1 Ki. 5:4, 11:14,23,25; 1 Chr. 21:1; Job. 1:6-12, 2:1-7; Psa. 38:20, 71:13, 109:4,6,20,29; Dan. 10:13,20-21; Zec. 3:1-2; Jud. 1:9; see also Ezr. 4:6, and see also Rom. 16:20.
•“which deceiveth” – Seducing through error, going throughout with intent, wander or lead out of “the way” (Jhn. 14:6) by another “way” (my way, as at tower of Babel), leading away from the word of God, for first the serpent deceived the woman (a church), that he through her might lead astray all humanity (Adam), and only those who have a love of the truth (2 Thes. 2:10) as it is in Christ Jesus would not be deceived, see Gen. 31:7; Lev. 6:2; Deut. 11:16; 2 Ki. 21:9; Job. 15:31; Pro. 20:1; Isa. 19:13, 44:20; Jer. 49:6; Lam. 1:19; Eze. 13:10, 14:9; Oba. 1:3,7; Mat. 22:29, 24:24; Mar. 12:24,27; Luk. 21:8; Jhn. 7:47; Rom. 7:11; 1 Cor. 6:9,15:33; Gal. 6:7; 1 Tim. 2:14; 2 Tim. 3:13; Tit. 3:3; Heb. 3:10; Jam. 1:6, 5:19; 1 Pet. 2:25; 2 Pet. 2:15; 1 Jhn. 2:26; Rev. 2:20, 13:14, 18:23, 19:20, 20:10.
•“the whole world” – As in Adam all die (1 Cor. 15:22), through sin (Rom. 5:12), thus the whole world was deceived when Adam was led astray by the woman, being used by the serpent (beast), for before Adam had “dominion” (Gen. 1:26,28) over the beasts, but then through “lust” (2 Pet. 1:4), the serpent gained “dominion” over Adam (Gen. 4:7), and all born after the flesh; and though the serpent ‘gained the whole world’, he had already lost his soul, and though Adam sought to gain even the one thing he was not to have, the tree forbidden, he too came under the same condemnation; see also Mat. 16:26; Mar. 8:36; Luk. 9:25; 1 Jhn. 5:19; Rev. 16:14.
•“he was cast out into the earth” – Perfect Love (God) “cast out” the spirit of fear (1 Jhn. 4:18), Lucifer, once an exalted angel in Heaven, fell by transgression (Act. 1:25) of pride (I will), going from next to Christ Jesus in honour as the “anointed cherub that covereth” (Eze. 28:14), to becoming as low as the dust of the earth, and to eat thereof (Gen. 3:14; Isa. 65:25; Mic. 7:17), and yet God shows that He can take of the dust (humble, humility, submitted) of the earth (Adam), when filled by His Holy Spirit (thy Will), and exalt them to the highest place (Jhn. 14:1-3), next to Christ Jesus upon His throne (Rev. 3:21), see Luk. 10:18; 2 Pet. 2:4. See also notes on “And the great Dragon was cast out”.
•“and his angels were cast out with him” – As the ‘head’ (Lucifer) became infected with sin (white spot (Lev. 13:2) of flesh (carnal); Jud. 1:23) and darkness, his whole ‘body’ became full of darkness (Mat. 6:22-23; Luk. 11:33-36), and thus being leprous and contagious, had to be removed, even ‘cut off’ (Exo. 12:19; Lev. 7:21,25, 22:3; Deut. 23:1 (1 Cor. 15:46); Jos. 3:16; 1 Ki. 9:7; 2 Chr. 32:21; Zec. 11:16; Mal. 2:12; Mat. 5:29-30, 18:7-9; Mar. 9:43-48; Rom. 11:22, 12:4-5; 1 Cor. 6:15, 12:12,18,20; Gal. 5:12), from the ‘camp of the saints’ (New Jerusalem; Rev. 20:9; Lev. 13:46), and placed in the ‘wilderness’ (Lev. 13:1-59, 14:1-57; Num. 12:10-16), for “seven days”. Beware that the ‘light” in us is really “light” and not “darkness” pretending to be ‘light’, which is ‘lie-ght’.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
•“And the great dragon was cast out” – The ‘scorner’ was ‘cast out’ of the Heavenly temple for being a ‘money changer’ (Eze. 28:5,16,18), see Gen. 21:10; Lev. 20:23; Deut. 6:19; Pro. 22:10; Jer. 7:15; Zep. 3:15; Zec. 1:21; Mat. 5:13, 8:12,16, 9:33, 10:8, 12:26-28, 21:12; Mar. 1:34,39, 3:15,23, 6:13, 9:38, 11:15, 16:17; Luk. 9:49, 11:14,18-20,32, 19:45; Jhn. 6:37; Gal. 4:30.
•“that old” – Ancient, and part of the ‘old creation’, and thus will pass away, not being part of the New Creation, not found in Christ Jesus; see Gen. 3:1; Psa. 102:26; Isa. 51:6; 2 Cor. 5:17; Heb. 1:11; 2 Pet. 2:5; Rev. 20:2.
•“serpent” – Venomous and subtil beast, the devil; Gen. 3:1-2,4,13,14; Psa. 58:4, 140:3; Pro. 23:32; Ecc. 10:11; Isa. 27:1; Mic. 7:17; Luk. 11:11,13; 2 Cor. 11:3; Rev. 12:14-15, 20:2.
Question: What sound does the “serpent” make?
“… iffffffffffffff …” - Mat. 4:3,6, 27:40,43; Luk. 4:3,9.
•The devil implies …
•If we’re really a ‘son of God’, then surely we have the power to make something the word of God (bread) which was not the word of God (stone), right?
•If we’re really a ‘son of God’, then surely we can seek to place ourselves in the highest position in the Church without coming to injury, right?
•If we’re really a ‘son of God’, then surely we should claim all the things of this world without permission from the Father, and divert a little bit of worship from Him to someone or something else, right?
•Let us turn unto God, as one who repents of the ways of the serpent.
•If we’re really a ‘son of God’, then surely we can seek to place ourselves in the highest position in the Church without coming to injury, right?
•If we’re really a ‘son of God’, then surely we should claim all the things of this world without permission from the Father, and divert a little bit of worship from Him to someone or something else, right?
•Let us turn unto God, as one who repents of the ways of the serpent.
•“called the Devil” – Named (character, “as his name is, so is he”; 1 Sam. 25:25) “Slanderer”, “false accuser” (devil); see 1 Jhn. 3:8,10; 1 Tim. 3:11; 2 Tim. 3:3; Tit. 2:3.
•“and Satan” – Named “adversary” (H7853,H7854; G4566,G4567), “accusing”; see 2 Sam. 19:22; 1 Ki. 5:4, 11:14,23,25; 1 Chr. 21:1; Job. 1:6-12, 2:1-7; Psa. 38:20, 71:13, 109:4,6,20,29; Dan. 10:13,20-21; Zec. 3:1-2; Jud. 1:9; see also Ezr. 4:6, and see also Rom. 16:20.
•“which deceiveth” – Seducing through error, going throughout with intent, wander or lead out of “the way” (Jhn. 14:6) by another “way” (my way, as at tower of Babel), leading away from the word of God, for first the serpent deceived the woman (a church), that he through her might lead astray all humanity (Adam), and only those who have a love of the truth (2 Thes. 2:10) as it is in Christ Jesus would not be deceived, see Gen. 31:7; Lev. 6:2; Deut. 11:16; 2 Ki. 21:9; Job. 15:31; Pro. 20:1; Isa. 19:13, 44:20; Jer. 49:6; Lam. 1:19; Eze. 13:10, 14:9; Oba. 1:3,7; Mat. 22:29, 24:24; Mar. 12:24,27; Luk. 21:8; Jhn. 7:47; Rom. 7:11; 1 Cor. 6:9,15:33; Gal. 6:7; 1 Tim. 2:14; 2 Tim. 3:13; Tit. 3:3; Heb. 3:10; Jam. 1:6, 5:19; 1 Pet. 2:25; 2 Pet. 2:15; 1 Jhn. 2:26; Rev. 2:20, 13:14, 18:23, 19:20, 20:10.
•“the whole world” – As in Adam all die (1 Cor. 15:22), through sin (Rom. 5:12), thus the whole world was deceived when Adam was led astray by the woman, being used by the serpent (beast), for before Adam had “dominion” (Gen. 1:26,28) over the beasts, but then through “lust” (2 Pet. 1:4), the serpent gained “dominion” over Adam (Gen. 4:7), and all born after the flesh; and though the serpent ‘gained the whole world’, he had already lost his soul, and though Adam sought to gain even the one thing he was not to have, the tree forbidden, he too came under the same condemnation; see also Mat. 16:26; Mar. 8:36; Luk. 9:25; 1 Jhn. 5:19; Rev. 16:14.
•“he was cast out into the earth” – Perfect Love (God) “cast out” the spirit of fear (1 Jhn. 4:18), Lucifer, once an exalted angel in Heaven, fell by transgression (Act. 1:25) of pride (I will), going from next to Christ Jesus in honour as the “anointed cherub that covereth” (Eze. 28:14), to becoming as low as the dust of the earth, and to eat thereof (Gen. 3:14; Isa. 65:25; Mic. 7:17), and yet God shows that He can take of the dust (humble, humility, submitted) of the earth (Adam), when filled by His Holy Spirit (thy Will), and exalt them to the highest place (Jhn. 14:1-3), next to Christ Jesus upon His throne (Rev. 3:21), see Luk. 10:18; 2 Pet. 2:4. See also notes on “And the great Dragon was cast out”.
•“and his angels were cast out with him” – As the ‘head’ (Lucifer) became infected with sin (white spot (Lev. 13:2) of flesh (carnal); Jud. 1:23) and darkness, his whole ‘body’ became full of darkness (Mat. 6:22-23; Luk. 11:33-36), and thus being leprous and contagious, had to be removed, even ‘cut off’ (Exo. 12:19; Lev. 7:21,25, 22:3; Deut. 23:1 (1 Cor. 15:46); Jos. 3:16; 1 Ki. 9:7; 2 Chr. 32:21; Zec. 11:16; Mal. 2:12; Mat. 5:29-30, 18:7-9; Mar. 9:43-48; Rom. 11:22, 12:4-5; 1 Cor. 6:15, 12:12,18,20; Gal. 5:12), from the ‘camp of the saints’ (New Jerusalem; Rev. 20:9; Lev. 13:46), and placed in the ‘wilderness’ (Lev. 13:1-59, 14:1-57; Num. 12:10-16), for “seven days”. Beware that the ‘light” in us is really “light” and not “darkness” pretending to be ‘light’, which is ‘lie-ght’.
Revelation 12:10
•“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven” – Lucifer, was then unmasked, as the murderer he was, see 2 Sam. 22:14; Psa. 18:13; Jhn. 12:29:
•“Now is come salvation” – Time statement as fulfillment of Dan. 9:26-27, “midst of the week” (70th week), which began to be counted from 457 B.C.; Ezr. 6:14, 7:1-28, unto the Cross of Calvary in A.D. 31; as promised (Psa. 61:5, 116:14,18; Jhn. 3:16, 19:28) from Gen. 3:15,21, confirming the “covenant” (Psa. 89:3,28,34, 105:8; Isa. 13:12, 42:6; Jer. 31:31-34; Eze. 36:25-29, 37:26-28; Mal. 2:5, 3:1; Mat. 26:28; Mar. 14:24; Luk. 22:20; Jhn. 17:24, 19:30; Rom. 11:27; 1 Cor. 11:25; Heb. 8:7-13, 10:16,29, 12:24, 13:20); Heb. 2:3; Rom. 15:8; to be delivered from our sins; see Gen. 49:18; Exo. 15:2; 1 Sam. 11:13; 2 Sam. 22:3,47; 1 Chr. 16:8-36; Psa. 18:46, 27:1, 35:9, 106:47-48; Isa. 56:1-8; Lam. 3:26; Jon. 2:9; Mic. 7:7; Hab. 3:13,18; Zec. 9:9; Mat. 1:21; Luk. 1:77, 3:6; Act. 4:12; Rom. 1:16; 2 Cor. 6:2; 1 Thes. 5:9; 2 Tim. 2:10, 3:15; Tit. 2:11; Heb. 2:3,10, 5:9,6:9, 9:28; 1 Pet. 1:9-11.
•“and strength” – A.D. 31; see Rom. 5:6; We were “dead in trespasses and sins” (Eph. 2:1; Ecc. 9:5-6,10; Rom. 7:6; Col. 2:13), but now we are made alive through the blood and sacrifice of Christ Jesus, quickened, strengthened with life from God’s Holy Spirit to live righteously (Psa. 18:32, 20:2, 28:8); see also Isa. 40:29; Dan. 2:37; Joe. 3:16; Zec. 10:12; Luk. 1:51; Jhn. 15:5; Act. 3:7; 2 Cor. 12:9; Eph. 3:16; Phi. 4:13; 1 Pet. 2:24, 5:10.
•“and the kingdom of our God” – Jesus was crowned “King” (Mat. 27:29; Mar. 15:17; Jhn. 19:2,5) and dominion was taken back from the devil; see Mat. 12:28, 28:18; Mar. 1:15, 12:28-34; Luk. 17:20-21; Jhn. 3:3,5; Rom. 14:17; 1 Cor. 4:20, 6:9-10, 15:50; Gal. 5:18-21; Heb. 4:16.
•“and the power” – Love of God demonstrated in Jesus at Calvary (Mar. 12:30,33; Luk. 10:27); see Rom. 1:16-17, 5:8; 1 Cor. 1:18,24, 2:5; 2 Cor. 6:7, 13:4; 2 Tim. 1:8; 1 Pet. 1:5.
•“of his Christ” – The “anointed” (Prophet, Priest & King), see 2 Sam. 22:51; Psa. 2:2, 18:50, 20:6, 28:8.
•“for the accuser of our brethren” – Satan the accuser (see notes on “called the Devil”) and the “brethren” are the saints on earth are family (by adoption) to those in Heaven; Luk. 10:20; Rom. 8:15,23, 9:4; 2 Cor. 8:3; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5, 3:15; Heb. 2:11-12,17, 3:1, 12:23; Rev. 19:10, 22:9.
•“is cast down” – De-throned, un-seated, over-thrown, from the position of authority of ‘dominion’ of this world and trapped here on earth, in the pit, and not yet destroyed (see also 2 Cor. 4:9); see 2 Chr. 25:8; Jer. 8:12; Psa. 36:12, 56:7; Jhn. 12:31, 16:11.
•“which accused them” – See notes on “for the accuser of our brethren”.
•“before our God” – Our Father, who has chosen us in Christ Jesus (Eph. 1:4), and we in Him, see Mat. 6:9; Luk. 11:2; 1 Jhn. 4:19.
•“day and night” – Continually (Psa. 42:3; Isa. 60:11), without reprieve, non-stop; see Pro. 30:10.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
•“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven” – Lucifer, was then unmasked, as the murderer he was, see 2 Sam. 22:14; Psa. 18:13; Jhn. 12:29:
–Mat. 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
–Mar. 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.
–Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
–Mar. 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.
–Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
•“Now is come salvation” – Time statement as fulfillment of Dan. 9:26-27, “midst of the week” (70th week), which began to be counted from 457 B.C.; Ezr. 6:14, 7:1-28, unto the Cross of Calvary in A.D. 31; as promised (Psa. 61:5, 116:14,18; Jhn. 3:16, 19:28) from Gen. 3:15,21, confirming the “covenant” (Psa. 89:3,28,34, 105:8; Isa. 13:12, 42:6; Jer. 31:31-34; Eze. 36:25-29, 37:26-28; Mal. 2:5, 3:1; Mat. 26:28; Mar. 14:24; Luk. 22:20; Jhn. 17:24, 19:30; Rom. 11:27; 1 Cor. 11:25; Heb. 8:7-13, 10:16,29, 12:24, 13:20); Heb. 2:3; Rom. 15:8; to be delivered from our sins; see Gen. 49:18; Exo. 15:2; 1 Sam. 11:13; 2 Sam. 22:3,47; 1 Chr. 16:8-36; Psa. 18:46, 27:1, 35:9, 106:47-48; Isa. 56:1-8; Lam. 3:26; Jon. 2:9; Mic. 7:7; Hab. 3:13,18; Zec. 9:9; Mat. 1:21; Luk. 1:77, 3:6; Act. 4:12; Rom. 1:16; 2 Cor. 6:2; 1 Thes. 5:9; 2 Tim. 2:10, 3:15; Tit. 2:11; Heb. 2:3,10, 5:9,6:9, 9:28; 1 Pet. 1:9-11.
•“and strength” – A.D. 31; see Rom. 5:6; We were “dead in trespasses and sins” (Eph. 2:1; Ecc. 9:5-6,10; Rom. 7:6; Col. 2:13), but now we are made alive through the blood and sacrifice of Christ Jesus, quickened, strengthened with life from God’s Holy Spirit to live righteously (Psa. 18:32, 20:2, 28:8); see also Isa. 40:29; Dan. 2:37; Joe. 3:16; Zec. 10:12; Luk. 1:51; Jhn. 15:5; Act. 3:7; 2 Cor. 12:9; Eph. 3:16; Phi. 4:13; 1 Pet. 2:24, 5:10.
•“and the kingdom of our God” – Jesus was crowned “King” (Mat. 27:29; Mar. 15:17; Jhn. 19:2,5) and dominion was taken back from the devil; see Mat. 12:28, 28:18; Mar. 1:15, 12:28-34; Luk. 17:20-21; Jhn. 3:3,5; Rom. 14:17; 1 Cor. 4:20, 6:9-10, 15:50; Gal. 5:18-21; Heb. 4:16.
•“and the power” – Love of God demonstrated in Jesus at Calvary (Mar. 12:30,33; Luk. 10:27); see Rom. 1:16-17, 5:8; 1 Cor. 1:18,24, 2:5; 2 Cor. 6:7, 13:4; 2 Tim. 1:8; 1 Pet. 1:5.
•“of his Christ” – The “anointed” (Prophet, Priest & King), see 2 Sam. 22:51; Psa. 2:2, 18:50, 20:6, 28:8.
–Prophet; (Deut. 18:15,18-19; Hos. 12:13; Mat. 13:57, 21:11,46; Mar. 6:4; Luk. 4:24, 7:16, 13:33, 24:19; Jhn. 4:19,44, 6:14, 7:40, 9:17; Act. 3:22,23, 7:37, etc.)
–Priest; (type: Gen. 14:18; Heb. 7:1,11,15; type: Exo. 28:1; Heb. 9:7, 10:11,21, 23:11, etc.; Psa. 110:4; Zec. 6:13; Mal. 2:7; Heb. 2:17, 3:1, 4:14,15, 5:1,5,6,10, 6:20, 7:3,17,20,21,26, 8:1,3,4, 9:11,25; Rev. 1:10-20, etc.)
–King; (Isa. 9:7; Dan. 2:44, 7:14,27; Mic. 5:2; Mat. 2:2, 21:5, 25:34,40, 27:11,29,37; Mar. 15:2,9,12,18,26,32; Luk. 14:31, 19:38, 23:2,3,38; Jhn. 1:49, 12:13,15, 18:37,39, 19:3,12,14,15,19,21; Act. 17:7; 1 Tim. 1:17, 6:15; Heb. 7:2; Rev. 17:14, 19:16, etc.)
–Priest; (type: Gen. 14:18; Heb. 7:1,11,15; type: Exo. 28:1; Heb. 9:7, 10:11,21, 23:11, etc.; Psa. 110:4; Zec. 6:13; Mal. 2:7; Heb. 2:17, 3:1, 4:14,15, 5:1,5,6,10, 6:20, 7:3,17,20,21,26, 8:1,3,4, 9:11,25; Rev. 1:10-20, etc.)
–King; (Isa. 9:7; Dan. 2:44, 7:14,27; Mic. 5:2; Mat. 2:2, 21:5, 25:34,40, 27:11,29,37; Mar. 15:2,9,12,18,26,32; Luk. 14:31, 19:38, 23:2,3,38; Jhn. 1:49, 12:13,15, 18:37,39, 19:3,12,14,15,19,21; Act. 17:7; 1 Tim. 1:17, 6:15; Heb. 7:2; Rev. 17:14, 19:16, etc.)
•“for the accuser of our brethren” – Satan the accuser (see notes on “called the Devil”) and the “brethren” are the saints on earth are family (by adoption) to those in Heaven; Luk. 10:20; Rom. 8:15,23, 9:4; 2 Cor. 8:3; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5, 3:15; Heb. 2:11-12,17, 3:1, 12:23; Rev. 19:10, 22:9.
•“is cast down” – De-throned, un-seated, over-thrown, from the position of authority of ‘dominion’ of this world and trapped here on earth, in the pit, and not yet destroyed (see also 2 Cor. 4:9); see 2 Chr. 25:8; Jer. 8:12; Psa. 36:12, 56:7; Jhn. 12:31, 16:11.
•“which accused them” – See notes on “for the accuser of our brethren”.
•“before our God” – Our Father, who has chosen us in Christ Jesus (Eph. 1:4), and we in Him, see Mat. 6:9; Luk. 11:2; 1 Jhn. 4:19.
•“day and night” – Continually (Psa. 42:3; Isa. 60:11), without reprieve, non-stop; see Pro. 30:10.
Revelation 12:11
•“And they” – The Saints in Christ Jesus, the “brethren”, see Rev. 12:10.
•“overcame” – Victory over satan, sin (1 Jhn. 3:4) and selfishness; see Gen. 49:19 (Rev. 7:5); Num. 13:30; Luk. 11:22; Jhn. 16:33; Rom. 12:21; 1 Jhn. 2:13-14, 4:4, 5:4-5; Rev. 2:7,11,17,26, 3:5,12,21, 21:7.
•“him” – The enemy of all souls, the Dragon, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, see Rev. 12:9-10.
•“by” – The means which it is accomplished, see Jhn. 1:29,36; 2 Cor. 3:18.
•“the blood of the Lamb” – For the “life of the flesh is in the blood”, see Lev. 17:11; Jhn. 6:53-57.
•“and by the word of their testimony” – God is true, faithful, love and so they “Amen” Jesus Christ’s witness by their repented lives, see Psa. 119:88; Mat. 10:18; Mar. 6:11, 13:9; Luk. 21:12-13; Jhn. 3:11, 21:24; Act. 10:42, 20:24; Heb. 11:5,32-40, 1 Jhn. 4:14; Rev. 6:9.
•“and they loved not their lives” – They loved God; see Luk. 11:46; Jhn. 15:19; 1 Jhn. 2:15.
•“unto the death” – Death to self, the Cross and even martyrdom (witness); see Mat. 16:24; Mar. 8:34, 10:21; Luk. 9:23, 11:46; Phi. 2:8; Heb. 12:4; Rev. 6:9-11, 20:4.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
•“And they” – The Saints in Christ Jesus, the “brethren”, see Rev. 12:10.
•“overcame” – Victory over satan, sin (1 Jhn. 3:4) and selfishness; see Gen. 49:19 (Rev. 7:5); Num. 13:30; Luk. 11:22; Jhn. 16:33; Rom. 12:21; 1 Jhn. 2:13-14, 4:4, 5:4-5; Rev. 2:7,11,17,26, 3:5,12,21, 21:7.
•“him” – The enemy of all souls, the Dragon, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, see Rev. 12:9-10.
•“by” – The means which it is accomplished, see Jhn. 1:29,36; 2 Cor. 3:18.
•“the blood of the Lamb” – For the “life of the flesh is in the blood”, see Lev. 17:11; Jhn. 6:53-57.
•“and by the word of their testimony” – God is true, faithful, love and so they “Amen” Jesus Christ’s witness by their repented lives, see Psa. 119:88; Mat. 10:18; Mar. 6:11, 13:9; Luk. 21:12-13; Jhn. 3:11, 21:24; Act. 10:42, 20:24; Heb. 11:5,32-40, 1 Jhn. 4:14; Rev. 6:9.
•“and they loved not their lives” – They loved God; see Luk. 11:46; Jhn. 15:19; 1 Jhn. 2:15.
•“unto the death” – Death to self, the Cross and even martyrdom (witness); see Mat. 16:24; Mar. 8:34, 10:21; Luk. 9:23, 11:46; Phi. 2:8; Heb. 12:4; Rev. 6:9-11, 20:4.
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