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But that has nothing to do with Revelation 17:8, unless you're talking about the serpent seed doctrine, which I don't hold to.
I must say that I do believe that Cain was of the devil.
1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother
But, one must study creation, Gen 1 is not the same as Gen 2 - Gen 1 is creation by God, Gen 2 is that Adam was formed by LORD God. Same God, but LORD God is only known as the covenant God of Israel in the Old Testament.
So the trees in Gen 2 refer to people of different races and the tree of good and evil were devil worshipers.
1Jn has to be believed for what it says.
 

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I must say that I do believe that Cain was of the devil.
1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother
But, one must study creation, Gen 1 is not the same as Gen 2 - Gen 1 is creation by God, Gen 2 is that Adam was formed by LORD God. Same God, but LORD God is only known as the covenant God of Israel in the Old Testament.
So the trees in Gen 2 refer to people of different races and the tree of good and evil were devil worshipers.
1Jn has to be believed for what it says.

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil was a symbol for Satan himself, that old serpent. It's because he was originally created good, but then became evil (per parable given regarding the heavenly cherub in Ezekiel 28).
 

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The tree of the knowledge of good and evil was a symbol for Satan himself, that old serpent. It's because he was originally created good, but then became evil (per parable given regarding the heavenly cherub in Ezekiel 28).

When ever I am in doubt I find scripture, what ever it says is final. I have never found anything that is a salvation issue, but plenty of scripture to point out truth.

Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Cain was a murderer from the beginning.

1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
seed
zeh'-rah
From H2232; seed; figuratively fruit, plant, sowing time, posterity: - X carnally, child, fruitful, seed (-time), sowing-time.
 
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When ever I am in doubt I find scripture, what ever it says is final. I have never found anything that is a salvation issue, but plenty of scripture to point out truth.

Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Cain was a murderer from the beginning.

1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
seed
zeh'-rah
From H2232; seed; figuratively fruit, plant, sowing time, posterity: - X carnally, child, fruitful, seed (-time), sowing-time.

Why is it people can't see that which you just posted in the simplicity that it was written?
 
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2. Satan is coming, again to setup himself up in place of GOD, like he did in the time of old, with another beast kingdom on earth.

In Rev.13 we are told of a beast that comes out of the sea having ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. In Revelation 13:2 our Lord reveals links to the beast kingdom types of Daniel 7. We can't forget the link with the seven crown beast kingdom of Rev.12 that Satan used of old though.

Men's traditions are ever playing with the beast idea in Rev.13, assigning all kinds of ideas to it when often it's Satan playing with their minds to confuse the Scripture to them. Two different beasts are mentioned there, the first one is a kingdom, because it has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. The second beast mentioned starting in Revelation 13:11 is about "another beast", a 2nd one, but a person instead. Who is it? The Pope? An Arab king? The U.S. President? A ruler from the EU? All of those ideas have been offered. But the reality of his identity is simple when heeding the actual Scripture.

Rev 13:11-14
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

This 2nd beast comes up out of the earth. If you've already done study in all of the Book of Revelation, you should recall Rev.11:7 says a beast ascends out of the bottomless pit to kill God's two witnesses in Jerusalem for the end. That was 2 Chapters back, so we should recall that. Then back in Chapter 9 we were told there is a king which is an angel over the bottomless pit and his name in the Greek is Apollyon (perdition) and in Hebrew is Abaddon (destroyer). And when you get to Rev.17, we are told about the beast that was, and is not, and yet is, ascending out of the bottomless pit, involving the idea of a beast king.

So how many clues does one need to realize all that is pointing directly to Satan himself. Why does he here have two horns 'like' a lamb but speak as a dragon? Back in Revelation 12:9 we were shown some of Satan's titles. One of his titles is the "dragon".

Our Lord Jesus is The Lamb slain; He came to die on the cross for us, meek as a lamb. Yet Satan here is shown playing the role of a meek lamb. What's that about? Do you recall how Satan coveted God's throne originally? Satan wants to be The Christ, and usurp His throne.

This is not showing us some flesh born man is going to try and do this. It is showing us that Satan himself, de facto, IN PERSON, is going to try to do this, again, i.e., usurp God's throne and try to rule over God's people.



12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The 1st beast of course is a kingdom beast. One of its seven heads is to suffer a deadly wound. But that wound is shown having been healed here when this "another beast" shows up.



13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
KJV


We were warned about a false one before by our Lord Jesus that that false one would come doing those great signs and wonders on earth, as He warned us to not believe on that false one when the deceived proclaim him as Christ (Matthew 24:23-26; KJV "false Christs" = a pseudo Messiah). Apostle Paul also warned of that false one coming prior to our Lord Jesus' coming to gather His Church, and how that false one would set himself up as God in a stone temple in Jerusalem, doing those signs and wonders on earth to deceive.

This isn't about some flesh man doing those miracles on earth by being possessed by Satan. It will be Satan himself doing those things here on earth in the sight of men.

Rev 12:7-12
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.


That phrase in red is especially important. This war in heaven happens at the end of this world we will find out later here. When it happens, notice there is no more place found for Satan in heaven. Right now, he is allowed to move freely between heaven and earth (1 Peter 5:8). There are only 2 different dimensions of existence written of in God's Word, this earthly where we live, and the heavenly where God and the angels live, behind a veil we cannot see. The heavenly is also where Satan dwells in a place of separation called Hades. At this war, Satan is kicked out of the heavenly. That leaves only one other place he can go. Where do you think that is? HERE, on earth in OUR dimension.


This means Satan is coming HERE, on earth, in person. Recall that angels can... appear, work and live on earth (Gen.19). They don't need a flesh body. We learn this especially with the mating of the fallen angels with flesh woman in Genesis 6 that produced the giant hybrids which God did not create.


9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Not only is Satan in person coming, but his angels are coming with him!



10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, 'Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.'


Did you know Satan stands as our accuser against us before God's throne in heaven? In this world he is allowed to approach God's throne as he did in the Book of Job. But at this point, when he is cast out of heaven to our earth, he will no longer be allowed in heaven to accuse us. In heaven at that point when this war happens and Satan and his angels are cast out, Christ's Salvation will come there in the heavenly. This reveals this casting out is not of old, but for the future in our time.



11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

That is about those saints on the 5th Seal that ask how long, and are told their brethren must be beheaded as they were, overcoming in Christ. That again reveals what timing this casting out is, i.e, for the end of this world. These on the 5th Seal timing is about the time of great tribulation. This reveals Satan's casting out here is tribulation timing.



12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV


That "short time" is the shortened time of great tribulation Jesus proclaimed in Matthew 24.

Rev 13:4-9
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
KJV


Do you have ears to hear, meaning spiritual ears? Can you understand this is about Satan in person coming to this earth in OUR dimension, and that we will see him in the form of a man? Our Heavenly Father said that he made him "perfect in beauty" (Ezekiel 28:12-14). So he's not going to have a goatee, horns, a pitchfork and red flannel underwear. He is a beautiful looking cherub.



When Satan comes and possesses a human, I wonder what his plan of salvation is for his followers? Ha, that's not even Biblical! I mean really, he wants to copy God? I guess Satan has not considered dying for his followers? Unfortunately and sadly, there will be those on this Earth that join him in his Kingdom.

The Lord Jesus Christ ONLY, is Worthy of all our Praise and Worship!
Eternity is a Very long Time!
 

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When Satan comes and possesses a human, I wonder what his plan of salvation is for his followers? Ha, that's not even Biblical! I mean really, he wants to copy God? I guess Satan has not considered dying for his followers? Unfortunately and sadly, there will be those on this Earth that join him in his Kingdom.

The Lord Jesus Christ ONLY, is Worthy of all our Praise and Worship!
Eternity is a Very long Time!

You're just not paying attention to our Lord Jesus' Own warning...

Matt 24:21-26
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, "Lo, here is Christ, or there"; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, "Behold, He is in the desert"; go not forth: behold, "He is in the secret chambers"; believe it not.

KJV

Those verses in red show Jesus was speaking of a 'singular' pseudo-Christ, not many. Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance also translates the Greek pseudochristos (KJV "false Christs") as being a singular false messiah, and not plural:

NT:5580
pseudochristos (psyoo-dokh'-ris-tos); from NT:5571 and NT:5547; a spurious Messiah:
KJV - false Christ.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.)


2 Thess 2:4
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV


That is the SAME original sin that Satan did in the beginning in coveting God's throne. And Satan has said that he will sit in God's throne upon the mount of the congregation...

Isa 14:12-14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.'
KJV


Time to get up to speed, this present fleshy world is just temporary. It is not God's eternal Kingdom to come.
 

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When Satan comes and possesses a human, I wonder what his plan of salvation is for his followers?
Well Davy is trying to promote the ERRONEOUS IDEA that it is Satan himself who will appear rather than the Antichrist, along with Satan and the False Prophet. I already showed him that Scripture refutes this false idea, but do you think that matters? Once a person commits to error, he always doubles down on his error.

Satan has a plan of damnation, not salvation, and when he and the other two take total control of this earth for 3 1/2 years, they will ensure that all those who take the Mark of the Beast will be damned.
 

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Well Davy is trying to promote the ERRONEOUS IDEA that it is Satan himself who will appear rather than the Antichrist, along with Satan and the False Prophet. I already showed him that Scripture refutes this false idea, but do you think that matters? Once a person commits to error, he always doubles down on his error.

Satan has a plan of damnation, not salvation, and when he and the other two take total control of this earth for 3 1/2 years, they will ensure that all those who take the Mark of the Beast will be damned.

Tell me who this 'beast' is then that is to ascend out of the bottomless pit, and is given in association with the kings idea there in Rev.17...

Rev 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
KJV
 

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Well Davy is trying to promote the ERRONEOUS IDEA that it is Satan himself who will appear rather than the Antichrist, along with Satan and the False Prophet. I already showed him that Scripture refutes this false idea, but do you think that matters? Once a person commits to error, he always doubles down on his error.

Satan has a plan of damnation, not salvation, and when he and the other two take total control of this earth for 3 1/2 years, they will ensure that all those who take the Mark of the Beast will be damned.

No, God's Word does NOT refute the idea that the coming Antichrist will be Lucifer himself, on earth, working lying signs and wonders to deceive the whole world with. God's Word confirms it will be.

Have you figured out who it is that ascends out of the bottomless pit yet? Alfred E. Newman of Mad magazine maybe?
 

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No, God's Word does NOT refute the idea that the coming Antichrist will be Lucifer himself, on earth, working lying signs and wonders to deceive the whole world with. God's Word confirms it will be.
Just Revelation 13 TOTALLY REFUTES your strange notions. But there are many more Scripture to go with that.
 

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Just Revelation 13 TOTALLY REFUTES your strange notions. But there are many more Scripture to go with that.

You just keep digging holes for yourself when you try to use Bible Scripture you don't have a clue about...

Rev 13:11
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

KJV

Rev 13:13-14
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
KJV

Rev 13:4-8
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
KJV

Rev 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
KJV
 

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You just keep digging holes for yourself when you try to use Bible Scripture you don't have a clue about...
The one digging holes is the one who cannot see three distinct creatures in Revelation 13 -- the Devil (the Dragon), the Beast (the Antichrist), and the False Prophet. You even quote the verses and ignore what they say!
 
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I don’t think Satan has ever left Earth in order to return in person since he’s been cast out of Heaven.

Satan under the name Lucifer the bearer of light had to bow down to Jesus in Heaven, it’s where his jealousy started, before Jesus came in the flesh unto this world to die for our sins, so that we could be saved from the punishment of Adam and Eve’s sin, which is death.
 

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I don’t think Satan has ever left Earth in order to return in person since he’s been cast out of Heaven.

Satan under the name Lucifer the bearer of light had to bow down to Jesus in Heaven, it’s where his jealousy started, before Jesus came in the flesh unto this world to die for our sins, so that we could be saved from the punishment of Adam and Eve’s sin, which is death.

He's in Heaven as I type this,accusing the saints

Revelation 12:10 "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power [authority] of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

This is why Satan's other name is "the accuser", for he continually stands before God's throne accusing all the saints of God. When you mess up, Satan will let God know about it. That is why it is important for us to repent immediately when we become aware of sin in our lives. Then all barriers between God and us are removed. Satan will continue to accuse you before God, right up to the time he is caste out to the earth.

Revelation 12:11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."

When Satan and his fallen angles are cast out onto the earth, the "elect" and those who have the seal of God in their minds will overcome them through the power given them in Christ's blood. You are the "elect" when you understand who Satan is, and what will come to pass. God has promised you and I that we have power over Satan, and God's protection is extended to each of those sealed in their minds.

"The word" of your testimony will allow you to overcome them, you won't even premeditate what to say, for God, through the Holy Spirit, will put the words in your mouth. The death that comes is to the "two witnesses" only, and to them it is for 84 hours [three and a half days].

Revelation 12:12 "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

When Satan is caste out, those dear souls in heaven will start a celebration in heaven. Those are the dear Christians that have died and are in heaven with the Father. However, Satan [the devil] is coming to earth with his angels to bring the wrath of their deception with them. Satan is not after your body, but after your soul.

Satan knows God's word, and the judgment passed upon him. He is sentenced to death already, and he knows his time is short. He will come to earth with his bag of tricks, and lying wonders, and the with authority from God to deceive every man on this earth. The only exception is to those who have the seal [knowledge] of God [written in God's Word] in their minds for they will not be deceived.

If you have not taken the time to put that truth in his Word into your mind, you will fall for Satan's razzle-dazzle sideshow of tricks. Satan will walk this earth with his fallen angels, and you will see them, hear their speech and even present themselves as fellow men. You are not going to fly out of here, but face them in this generation, and you will either stand against Satan and his realm, or you will fall. What is at stake here is your soul, and not your flesh body.
 

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The one digging holes is the one who cannot see three distinct creatures in Revelation 13 -- the Devil (the Dragon), the Beast (the Antichrist), and the False Prophet. You even quote the verses and ignore what they say!

There is NO phrase of "False Prophet" in the Revelation 13 chapter. That idea instead is an 'addition' to the Scripture by men. There are ONLY 2 separate 'beasts' being talked about in the Rev.13 chapter. The 2nd one is the coming Antichrist.

When I quote Scripture, I do not ignore it, so you just told a big fat LIE! Prove to us 'where' it says 'false prophet' in the Rev.13 Scripture smarty-pants.
 

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I don’t think Satan has ever left Earth in order to return in person since he’s been cast out of Heaven.

Satan under the name Lucifer the bearer of light had to bow down to Jesus in Heaven, it’s where his jealousy started, before Jesus came in the flesh unto this world to die for our sins, so that we could be saved from the punishment of Adam and Eve’s sin, which is death.

Yeah, lot of men's religious systems teach that Satan was 'bound' when our Lord Jesus died on His cross. Or that Satan was cast down at our Lord Jesus' crucifixion. They get some of that wrong thinking from John 12...

John 12:31-32
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
KJV


Was that "prince" (put for Satan) cast out then? Well, did you notice that previous phrase, "Now is the judgment of this world..."? Has God's wrath of judgment come upon today's earth yet?? No... it's still waiting til the last day at the end. That is when that prince be cast out too, at the very end of this world, for the coming tribulation upon the saints.

That is the timing Revelation 12:7-17 is talking about, for the very end of this world is when Satan will be cast down to our earth, along with his angels, and that "short time" he knows he will have is about the coming time of "great tribulation" our Lord Jesus warned us about. This is why that Rev.12:11 verse speaks of those saints who overcome through Christ, which is a 5th Seal event.

John 14:30
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.

KJV

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

KJV

That is about Satan coming to our dimension, in person, on this earth, at the end. Rev.12:8 says there will be no more place for him in Heaven when that war in Heaven happens. There's only 2 different dimensions of existence written of in God's Word, the heavenly one, and this earthy one we live in. Satan is coming here, in our dimension.
 

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Yeah, lot of men's religious systems teach that Satan was 'bound' when our Lord Jesus died on His cross. Or that Satan was cast down at our Lord Jesus' crucifixion. They get some of that wrong thinking from John 12...

John 12:31-32
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
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Was that "prince" (put for Satan) cast out then? Well, did you notice that previous phrase, "Now is the judgment of this world..."? Has God's wrath of judgment come upon today's earth yet?? No... it's still waiting til the last day at the end. That is when that prince be cast out too, at the very end of this world, for the coming tribulation upon the saints.

That is the timing Revelation 12:7-17 is talking about, for the very end of this world is when Satan will be cast down to our earth, along with his angels, and that "short time" he knows he will have is about the coming time of "great tribulation" our Lord Jesus warned us about. This is why that Rev.12:11 verse speaks of those saints who overcome through Christ, which is a 5th Seal event.

John 14:30
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.

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1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

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That is about Satan coming to our dimension, in person, on this earth, at the end. Rev.12:8 says there will be no more place for him in Heaven when that war in Heaven happens. There's only 2 different dimensions of existence written of in God's Word, the heavenly one, and this earthy one we live in. Satan is coming here, in our dimension.
So I’m wrong Davy?
 

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So I’m wrong Davy?

I gotta' admit, the John 12:31 verse is very... tempting to interpret that our Lord Jesus meant Satan would be 'cast out' then at Christ's time of crucifixion. Thing is though, in the later John 14:30 verse, our Lord Jesus said Satan "cometh". That makes it impossible that the Revelation 12:7-9 casting out happened back at Satan's first rebellion of old before our Lord Jesus came in the flesh, or even at our Lord Jesus' death on the cross.

Moreoever, the Revelation 12:10-11 verses point to Christ's Blood on the cross having already happened, which certainly did not happen in the time of old when Satan first coveted God's throne.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Satan is still allowed to walk up and down in the earth, and in Heaven to accuse us before God, just like he did Job. The casting out of Revelation 12:7-17 is for the end of this world, in our near future.