The Power Of His Ressurection

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Philippians 3:10,

10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

You realize Jesus of Nazareth is not Who you are to know. Who is Jesus of Nazareth? He is our Lord that walked the earth over two thousand years ago, and did all things that were prophesied he would do and more. But that is not who you need to know. Oh the history and how he healed and handled people and went about his daily life are very interesting. To connect the types and shadows of Old and New is quite exhilarating but at the same time that is not the Christ You need to know.

You need to know the Christ in you, why is that? Because as our text says the HolySpirit is teaching us the power of his resurrection. Have you ever heard it said the reason Jesus called Lazareth by name because he would have resurrected the whole tomb if he wasn't specific in who came forth. There is so much power involved we have to be taught by the HolySpirit to have an understanding and live accordingly. For your life and others around you. Nothing worse than being around someone who has been in the Lord for some time and they still live in fear of everything especially death. We stay glued to a television watching mayhem and murder in the world, doors locked, guns by our sides. Fear gripes those that have no idea of ressurection power, fear is in the root of the sin nature. All violence comes from fear, evil comes out of fear.

Every believer will be healed everytime except the last time. The ressurected Christ lives in believers with ressurection power, you need to know him and his ressurection power. You may go to the brink of death and he will heal you. No matter how it happens Christ will always be your healer. We don't know him like that, when we are sick or a loved one or a friend. We Should pray the Lord minister to them, we do not know the Lord's will, it may be time for them to go. Don't pray for the Lord to heal them, if he is keeping them here he will heal them, pray they are ministered to through the process of the Lord working out his ressurection power.

There in lies the power, what was the power we were to recieve from the outpouring of the HolySpirit? The power is in the understanding and knowing Christ in you. When the HolySpirit comes Jesus said "he will teach you me." Having the ressurection power in you is a lifestyle you live. You are alive, you live life not moved by every wind of doctrine or anything that happens around you or in the world. Free from the fear of man, "fear him who has power over both body and soul. We don't fear what man can do we are free, delivered by the ressurection power of Christ in you the hope of glory. Amen and Amen!
 
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Every believer will be healed everytime except the last time. The ressurected Christ lives in believers with ressurection power, you need to know him and his ressurection power. You may go to the brink of death and he will heal you. No matter how it happens Christ will always be your healer. We don't know him like that, when we are sick or a loved one or a friend. We Should pray the Lord minister to them, we do not know the Lord's will, it may be time for them to go. Don't pray for the Lord to heal them, if he is keeping them here he will heal them, pray they are ministered to through the process of the Lord working out his ressurection power.

You are speaking of a carnal healing. Of course...because you are not understanding actual resurrection life. If you understood this you would be speaking, not of carnal things, but of spiritual life and power...say...to walk as Jesus walked...without any trace or spot of sin. Not to say that God can't also heal the physical body. But that isn't the point of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not just a physical doctor. He is a life giving Spirit.

But that is not your experience yet.
 

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You are speaking of a carnal healing. Of course...because you are not understanding actual resurrection life. If you understood this you would be speaking, not of carnal things, but of spiritual life and power...say...to walk as Jesus walked...without any trace or spot of sin. Not to say that God can't also heal the physical body. But that isn't the point of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not just a physical doctor. He is a life giving Spirit.

But that is not your experience yet.

Why do you o man always come along and judge others and what they say, as if what you teach is better. I have bought that field, long ago, and it cost me everything. If you truly had done the same then you would not be threatened by others and what they say and teach. You may think that your judgements and subtle put downs of others have disapeared and yet they remain. They are like tatoos upon your flesh that will remain until That Day.

"Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may be rich, and white garments to cloth you and to keep the shame of your nakedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent."
 
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Why do you o man always come along and judge others and what they say, as if what you teach is better. I have bought that field, long ago, and it cost me everything. If you truly had done the same then you would not be threatened by others and what they say and teach. You may think that your judgements and subtle put downs of others have disapeared and yet they remain. They are like tatoos upon your flesh that will remain until That Day.

"Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may be rich, and white garments to cloth you and to keep the shame of your nakedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent."


This is a public forum. People teach things on here that are based on things they have been programmed to believe...like the evangelistic hypnotic and dogmatic approach to the bible...or have read in some book by a religious theorist. But this must be held up to a proper scrutiny. Especially when this is being presented as if it were true and not just as it should be...as a religious theory. Do you really think that every thread is the last say on any given matter? That nothing can be corrected or proved to be false or inaccurate?

I reserve my judgment until I see a pattern in the way of thinking and the approach of that person based on how a young one in the faith might be affected. Then it is my right and duty to call out what I know ends badly for they who believe what is being presented. Love dictates that if you see a deadly error...you should say something. We are to speak the truth in love. Not just one of these. Both.

This world has a way of doing things. And God has a way of doing things. And these are opposite to each other. So I am comparing spiritual things (from my own experience with God) and biblical things (from a long established study of the word) with what is being presented.

You may not agree with my assessment...and that's fine. You are entitled to your own opinion. AND...if you can do more than just complain about my freedom to criticize a false viewpoint...show me from your experience and study how I am mistaken.

Peace.
 

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Every believer will be healed everytime except the last time. The ressurected Christ lives in believers with ressurection power, you need to know him and his ressurection power. You may go to the brink of death and he will heal you. No matter how it happens Christ will always be your healer. We don't know him like that, when we are sick or a loved one or a friend. We Should pray the Lord minister to them, we do not know the Lord's will, it may be time for them to go. Don't pray for the Lord to heal them, if he is keeping them here he will heal them, pray they are ministered to through the process of the Lord working out his ressurection power.

Interesting post as usual :)

My heart and spirit can say Amen!! True. But so many times my mind gets in the way and reasoning trips me up.
But I agree with your post...an old pastor used to tell his really old flock , "You can die and be with your husband ( wife) but you are not going in the Devil's chariot ...you will die healed." He'd pray for them and they'd get healed , the sometime later, die in their sleep.

Healing for sure comes to us and manifests it's self from the inside outward...Christ who dwells in our spirit flows the by faith through the heart and soul into the body ...trouble I find is , the doorkeeper between the soul and body is the mind... the mind is always the battle field.

Knowing the truth and exercising the truth are two different things..

God so often " remembers that we are but dust"...and in His love Grace flows and we are healed in an instant!! :)
 
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You are speaking of a carnal healing. Of course...because you are not understanding actual resurrection life. If you understood this you would be speaking, not of carnal things, but of spiritual life and power...say...to walk as Jesus walked...without any trace or spot of sin. Not to say that God can't also heal the physical body. But that isn't the point of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not just a physical doctor. He is a life giving Spirit.

But that is not your experience yet.


Harsh words and uncalled for.

The thing is, as we are maturing in growth in the things of God...we have to stay alive so that we have the time and strength to receive the full revelation of what "Christ in you the hope of glory" means...and 'to come to the fullness of the measure of the fullness of Christ...'
Full grown sons.

@soul man has a very timely word here....we ourselves have 4 wonderful christian friends and every one of them has stage 4 cancer and will die is God doesn't in grace jump supernaturally into their natural bodies .

The truth of ALL that "Christ in you the hope of glory" needs indeed to be preached ...the Devil is winning too many battles on good spiritual christians who have not grasped the depth of 'natural bodily' healing.
Yes , they will die 'saved'...but so many these days have been cut short by sickness and disease and end up going in the Devil's chariot.

In the 40's and 50's healing was preached strongly and the people of God seemed to know the truth of healing...it is hardly preached at all now...and the proof is seen by just looking at - The ( sick and physically dying) Church !!
 

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but of spiritual life and power...say...to walk as Jesus walked...without any trace or spot of sin.
Again I will ask you, do you testify that this is how you live? Without any trace or spot of sin? In the practical sense? Do you?

And if not . . . even if you say yes . . . who made you judge? Jesus does that.
 
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This is a public forum. People teach things on here that are based on things they have been programmed to believe...like the evangelistic hypnotic and dogmatic approach to the bible...or have read in some book by a religious theorist. But this must be held up to a proper scrutiny. Especially when this is being presented as if it were true and not just as it should be...as a religious theory. Do you really think that every thread is the last say on any given matter? That nothing can be corrected or proved to be false or inaccurate?

I reserve my judgment until I see a pattern in the way of thinking and the approach of that person based on how a young one in the faith might be affected. Then it is my right and duty to call out what I know ends badly for they who believe what is being presented. Love dictates that if you see a deadly error...you should say something. We are to speak the truth in love. Not just one of these. Both.

This world has a way of doing things. And God has a way of doing things. And these are opposite to each other. So I am comparing spiritual things (from my own experience with God) and biblical things (from a long established study of the word) with what is being presented.

You may not agree with my assessment...and that's fine. You are entitled to your own opinion. AND...if you can do more than just complain about my freedom to criticize a false viewpoint...show me from your experience and study how I am mistaken.

Peace.

The words that have been written will remain.
 

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The words that have been written will remain.


Yes. The standard of Christ...as lofty as that may appear...will remain. The bible...that oft twisted record of God's will for mankind...will be vindicated in the lives of His faithful.

I'm not claiming to be among the great ones who have defended the truth in the past and present. But in the absence of such, the warnings of the bible need to be addressed if we are to be responsible in our actions as surely we will be made so on judgment day.
 

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Yes. The standard of Christ...as lofty as that may appear...will remain. The bible...that oft twisted record of God's will for mankind...will be vindicated in the lives of His faithful.

I'm not claiming to be among the great ones who have defended the truth in the past and present. But in the absence of such, the warnings of the bible need to be addressed if we are to be responsible in our actions as surely we will be made so on judgment day.

"And what you do unto the least of these little ones you do unto Me"
 

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"And what you do unto the least of these little ones you do unto Me"
Harsh words and uncalled for.

The thing is, as we are maturing in growth in the things of God...we have to stay alive so that we have the time and strength to receive the full revelation of what "Christ in you the hope of glory" means...and 'to come to the fullness of the measure of the fullness of Christ...'
Full grown sons.

@soul man has a very timely word here....we ourselves have 4 wonderful christian friends and every one of them has stage 4 cancer and will die is God doesn't in grace jump supernaturally into their natural bodies .

The truth of ALL that "Christ in you the hope of glory" needs indeed to be preached ...the Devil is winning too many battles on good spiritual christians who have not grasped the depth of 'natural bodily' healing.
Yes , they will die 'saved'...but so many these days have been cut short by sickness and disease and end up going in the Devil's chariot.

In the 40's and 50's healing was preached strongly and the people of God seemed to know the truth of healing...it is hardly preached at all now...and the proof is seen by just looking at - The ( sick and physically dying) Church !!

There are some that preach prosperity based on resurrection power...(Benny Hinn seems to no longer be in that number.) There are even more that confuse resurrection power with a physical well being.

The irony is that Paul warns of sickness and even death to they who misuse grace, the lack of discerning of the Body of Christ. God defends His holiness AGAINST our aspirations of health and well being in the carnal state.

But then that takes some kind of understanding of holiness....a holiness which the OP is abusing...hence my "harsh" words against it.

One day you may see just how much the sin against holiness is seen by God as far worse to any carnal sin.

The strategy of the devil is to first...destroy righteousness. He has succeeded in that. But the next big strategy is then to attack holiness and subvert it to serve mankind.

As the OP plainly shows.

I don't expect people in the natural world to see this...but people who claim to be born again...??? The immensity of the sin shows a lot on who is walking according to the flesh and thinking with the carnal mind...even as a false display of spiritual life is set forth.
 
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You are speaking of a carnal healing. Of course...because you are not understanding actual resurrection life. If you understood this you would be speaking, not of carnal things, but of spiritual life and power...say...to walk as Jesus walked...without any trace or spot of sin. Not to say that God can't also heal the physical body. But that isn't the point of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not just a physical doctor. He is a life giving Spirit.

But that is not your experience yet.

We have been preaching life for the time in here, you have no real idea what we are talking about. I don't believe this message is for you at this time. You need to troll CNN or other worldly news outlets comment pages and find those to contend with, these forums are to hard on you.
 
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There are even more that confuse resurrection power with a physical well being.
You may want to become unconfused on this point. I'm not preaching "word of faith" or "prosperity" or all that. Just the same . . . the power of the Holy Spirit in me transcends above my physical infirmities.

One day you may see just how much the sin against holiness is seen by God as far worse to any carnal sin.

I'd be more concerned about condemnation of those God has declared innocent. Tearing down the brethren. Not that I read all your posts, but so many are just like this, tearing down God's children because you fail everyone according to your "works" standard.
 
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We have been preaching life for the time in here, you have no real idea what we are talking about. I don't believe this message is for you at this time. You need to troll CNN or other worldly news outlets comment pages and find those to contend with, these forums are to hard on you.


I contend with error wherever I find it.:)
 

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I contend with error wherever I find it.:)

Oh come on John...that lifts you up into the realm of - "I am always right, therefore I can sit in the seat of judgement over all those ignorant people below me and correct what the believe. "

Not impressed
 

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@soul man;

It is such a blessing to read from the heart of one that is trying to get to know this One who has come to take up residency in them. Such a joy and peace to the heart it brings.

Be blessed all that would search into this mystery of Christ in them, for getting to know this Christ as our life, it is our hope of glory.

In Christ, Not me

ps, @Helen sorry to hear about your friends. May God grant them an increase of Himself in their innermost beings and such a knowledge of Himself all would pale in comparison.

In my prayers, Not me
 
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@soul man;

ps, @Helen sorry to hear about your friends. May God grant them an increase of Himself in their innermost beings and such a knowledge of Himself all would pale in comparison.

In my prayers, Not me

Thank you bro.

All of our friends are praises ...and praising God through the darkness of the shadow valley ...

We know “the Devil’s chariot “ is not the way to go...but, joy comes in the “morning”...
God is their strength even in their weakness.....
 
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Thank you bro.

All of our friends are praises ...and praising God through the darkness of the shadow valley ...

We know “the Devil’s chariot “ is not the way to go...but, joy comes in the “morning”...
God is their strength even in their weakness.....

Scripture says blessings to those that are “in the faith” so blessings to you (and them) for having a heart that is searching after Him. Knowing that all our searching is not in vain and it has great promise. So keep pressing into the One who has called us unto Himself, knowing He sees all and our labor is not in vain. Keep spreading God’s love knowing we are His.

Be most blessed as He makes Himself more alive in us each and every day, Not me

Edit; knowing that I too bear witness with soul man’s relationship with Christ and enjoy and look forward to reading his posts. For I see in them such a heart after God. (Be blessed soul man as your heart calls you unto Him). So to all that love the Lord Jesus may He increase Himself in us, Not me
 
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