Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

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I’m from Jersey so I’m not that from from Amityville, I’ve been thinking of taking a ride to see the house.

@Soverign Grace you can PM more about this, I’m very interested in your story, I’d like to hear more about it.

I don't think I'd seek something like that out - unless you're called into the ministry. There is supposedly an increased need for it due to an uptick in this type of activity.
 

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A pentagram has five points. A hexagram has six points. And both have been in use for Satanist, Kabbalistic and occultic practices.

I actually didn't see it - someone told me it was there so I don't know which it was.
 

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Yep! -- Would you rather receive "kisses from and enemy"?

I'm here for YOU, not your ludicrous, mind bending, false shadow, delusions.
Bobby Jo

LOL!

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. - Romans 2:1
 
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Bobby Jo[/QUOTE]
The Bible tells us that we are to (1) try the spirits, and (2) prove all things. Furthermore we will judge angels. So that makes me a judge of what is true and what is false right now.

When Christians go off on tangents and get into weird and bizarre ideas, they are to be corrected by other Christians, since Scripture is given for both reproof and correction (2 Tim 3:16). And those who are corrected should thank those who correct them, rather than chafe at the correction.

You've been dumping on Trump just like all the Left-Liberal Anarchists when you should be thanking God for putting Trump in office. And that is because you are allowing yourself to be influenced by liars.

And I also "test the spirits" Enoch. What makes your "testing" superior than mine? I see a root of pride "I'm right and YOU'RE wrong!" I too will judge angels. And maybe some day you'll thank me for the correction rather than chafing. I study my bible every bit as much as you do.

Chuck Baldwin is no lightweight. From what I understand he was the head of the Moral Majority. JC Sproul is of the belief that the promises are for Christians not the nation of Israel. These are not fringe pastors - they're pastors who have come to see that a lie has been perpetrated. Just because you don't see this yet doesn't mean it's wrong. How many people thought the world was flat, or that Pasteur didn't know what he was talking about, or even that accused Christ of working with Beelzebul? They were small minds. No wonder Quiet Thinker encounters so many fakes - Christians are afraid to share, to ask questions, to take a look at what they've been taught to see if it's truth.

Because I'm still studying Revelations I'm still somewhat on the fence about all this but what really concerns me is how combative some "Christians" get when you step outside of the beliefs that THEY hold and question - as we're told to do. "Prove all things..." Christianity goes out the window. There are pastors who call your beliefs about Israel as weird and going off on tangents. I encourage you to argue your points with them - there are many online.

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One of the most sensitive issues with which secular Israelis and many Messianic Christians struggle is the hexagram on the flag of the modern state of Israel. Satanists recognize this symbol as one of their favorites, and most powerful, i.e., the hexagram. However, secular Jews and many Messianic Christians insist that this symbol is not a hexagram, but is the "Star of David". Such apologists also insist that the symbol has to be all right, because King Solomon was the one who selected the symbol.

We write this article in order to set the record straight -- hopefully for the last time.

The House of Rothschild was the moving force, both politically and financially, behind the original Zionist movement of Jews back to the land of Israel. The Satanic Illuminist, Rothschild, began the Zionist Movement in 1896, funded the agitation through 1948 to get Israel re-established back in the land, and has owned the leadership of Israel up to the current day. To see the reality of this fact, you only need to examine Israel's flag, the most Satanic of all symbols, the hexagram. We have posted several articles on this subject, which, if you have not read them before, you need to stop and read them as background for the information contained in this article. These are the previous Cutting Edge articles:

* NEWS1643 - "Fervent Masonic Desire Is To Rebuild Solomon's Temple On The Temple Mount - Is Also Driving Force Behind All Middle East Events"

* NEWS1874 - "Jewish Authors Confirm Cutting Edge Analysis Of The Black Magick Masonic Control of Zionism, Israel, And Current Middle East Events

* NEWS2128 - "Properly Understanding On Of The Most Important Illuminati Planning Documents - The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"

In the News Alert for July 24, 2007, I reported that the Hexagram was not the symbol for Modern Israel. Pointed criticism immediately flew my way from a very sincere and very distressed Messianic Christian. I write this article to clear up one of the greatest misconceptions in this modern era.

The hexagram is Satan's symbol for Israel, while the menorah is God's symbol.

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Listen to Dr. O.J. Graham, above, as he begins our discussion.

"The quest began at York University, Ontario, Canada, when an Orthodox Jewish friend of mine was investigating Messianic Judaism ...

" '... the Star of David is not Jewish". (Orthodox Jew)

" 'Well, is it Jewish, Judaism, or Zionism?', I smiled." (Dr. Graham speaking)

" 'Not my brand of Judaism. We use the Menorah.' (Orthodox Jew replied)"

Can this be true? Is it possible that God's mandated Menorah is the real symbol for Ancient Israel, and not the "Star of David"?

Listen to Wikipedia Encyclopedia:

"The menorah (Hebrew: ?????), is a seven branched candelabrum lit by olive oil in the Tabernacle and the Temple in Jerusalem. The menorah is one of the oldest symbols of the Jewish people. It is said to symbolize the burning bush as seen by Moses on Mount Sinai (Exodus 25). "

Not satisfied? Listen to other sources:

"The Menorah has served as a uniquely Jewish symbol from antiquity to contemporary times. The Menorah can be found on ancient coins, gravestones, synagogue decorations. Today the Menorah serves as the seal and emblem of the Jewish State of Israel." ("About Judaism", What Is a Hanukkiyah or Hanukkah Menorah? )

Did you catch that pertinent quote? The Menorah was the symbol of Judaism "from antiquity to contemporary times".

"The menorah which appears on the emblem of the State of Israel was copied from the relief carved into the Arch of Titus in Rome, where it had once stood for the suppression of the Jewish Revolt, the conquest of Jerusalem, and the destruction of the Temple. In this context, the symbol of the menorah expresses the thesis and antithesis of Jewish history." ("The Seventh-Branched Menorah: An Evolving Jewish Symbol", by Ida Huberman)

"The menorah was the most important symbol of the Temple after the Ark of the Covenant. The image of the biblical menorah is the symbol of the modern state of Israel." ("Israel seeks return of Temple artifacts", World Net Daily, January 16, 2004)

"One of the oldest symbols of the Jewish faith is the menorah, a seven-branched candelabrum used in the Temple." ("Jewish Symbols: The Menorah", Doing Judaism - http://www.doingzionism.org.il/resources/view.asp?id=48)

"The menorah is the official symbol of the Jewish nation." ("The history of the menorah", Jewish-Art.org, http://www.jewish-art.org/menorah.html )

"The national emblem of the State of Israel includes a seven branched-candelabrum, called Menorah, flanked by two olive branches." ("Menorah - Emblem of the State of Israel", (Israel Science and Technology, "Menorah - Emblem of the State of Israel", Menorah - Emblem of Israel )

"The menorah is a seven-branched candelabra often seen on Jewish tombstones, especially those of women. The menorah is one of the oldest symbols of Judaism." ("Cemeteries and Cemetery Symbols", Menorah )

"The seven-branched menorah's presence in the Holy Temple had been commanded in the Torah (the Hebrew Bible or Old Testament) ... Over the years, the menorah has evolved to represent more than a candelabra. It has become a symbol of Judaism, and is even used on some Israeli coins." ("Hanukkah: The Dedication of the Temple, the Meaning of the Menorah, the Whirling Wonder of the Dreidel", Galleria Judaica: The Jewish Wedding Experts" - http://www.galleryjudaica.com/articles/hanukah.html )
 

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Let us now return to a discussion as to how the Hexagram is really a Satanic symbol which apostate Jews have used since the time of Ancient Babylon and Egypt.

Is you just glance at the Israeli flag, you will easily see that the dominant symbol is a Satanic hexagram! Yes, it is called a "Star of David", because King Solomon adopted it as a main symbol when he was building pagan temples for some of his pagan wives. Former Satanists adamantly state that King Solomon actually became one of the most powerful Shamans in world history, having slipped deeply into the practice of the occult.

Let us now examine the writings of Dr. Graham to see how correct former Satanists have been on this subject.

"The first mention of this symbol was in 922 BC, when Solomon got involved in witchcraft and magic ... this book traces the worship of Ashtroreth (Astartee --meaning star) and Chiun and Remphan (meaning star) from the Egyptians before Solomon's time. Then afterward, in Arab magic and witchcraft, through the Middle Ages, it was used by the Druids, during the highest Sabbath of the witches, called Halloween. The family of the Rothschild, Zionist and Hitler have all used the symbol, as has the Knesset. Finally, it is featured on the flag of Israel." (Dr. O.J. Graham, "The Six-Pointed Star", p. 3, Introduction)

Please ask yourself: where in the Bible the hexagram is used as a symbol of Israel? I really want to see that Scripture and verse reference. If you can find it, please let me know. My research tells me that the hexagram is one of the Satanic symbols with which apostate Jewry fell in love time and time again in Israel's long ancient history.

Then, when the time had arrived for God to bring Satan back to her land, in fulfillment of so many Old Testament prophecies, He allowed Satan to actually bring Israel back, in fulfillment of the prophecy of Ezekiel 37:8d, where God prophesied that He would bring Israel back to life, and stand her on her feet, but initially put "no spirit" in her; since Bible scholars have always recognized that this is a reference to the Holy Spirit, and since the Holy Spirit always testifies of Jesus (John 15:26), this prophecy must mean that Israel will return initially to her land, without a belief in Jesus Christ as Messiah.

And, of course, this is exactly what occurred. The most important Illuminati family ever, the Rothschilds, were instrumental in raising up the Zionist Movement in 1896, in funding its activities, and then forcing the Illuminati leaders of Israel in 1948 to adopt the hexagram as their national symbol.

Well-meaning Christians today are allowing themselves to be duped into supporting Israel today, for that leadership is deeply Satanic and is actively supporting the coming Masonic Messiah, and the rebuilding of the Temple for him. this current Israeli leadership is planning to build the next Temple - which too Christians have supported - which is going to be the Temple of Antichrist.

Israel is proceeding to complete fulfillment of prophecy, which will culminate in the Masonic Christ (Antichrist) coming to the world scene, deceiving Israel and then being slaughtered in fulfillment of Zechariah 13:8-9, where God will allow Antichrist to kill 66% of all Jews. This is the point where all these Illuminati Jews will meet their Maker.

Then, Israel will be composed only of the Christian remnant whom God has preserved. When Jesus returns, He will return to a Christian Israel. THAT is the Israel upon which I have my eye and my affections. THAT is the Israel for which Evangelical Christians ought to be praying. Our Petra DVD tells the story of how God is preparing Petra to be His hiding place for the one-third remnant which God is going to divinely protect.

Events in Israel are setting the stage for the last fulfillment in world history.

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That the Star of David is Satanic, is total nonsense someone fabricated. It is certainly not Biblical!
Hey Stan
Do your homework before declaring a truth or untruth or you be promoting a lie
I challenge you to study the history of the Menorah and the pentagram
You then see why
Christians foolish worshipping
A place that has a pentagram flying
Overhead

is it a deal?
 

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This you do.
2 Tim. 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching ...

:)
Bobby Jo
Hey Bobby
2 Cor4:4 The god of this world has blinded you. You so sure you right you willing to put down another believer who don’t think like you
That’s rude and uncouth

And it sure ain’t Christian behavior

And you expect anybody take you serious after you
Puff yourself up
Like you be the messiah who everybody should follow
Cause God only revealed truth to yo?
Come on man
Get real
You can’t even get the basics right
Didn’t yo momma teach you to be nice ?

They are levels of blindness
Satan can blind a mind to a truth

not saying that what happened
Only it could be
The Pharisees accused Jesus Himself of being aligned with Beezebub
Could be you pointing a finger at someone
Who had truth given before you

The jury’s still out
 
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Hey Bobby
2 Cor4:4 The god of this world has blinded you. You so sure you right you willing to put down another believer who don’t think like you
That’s rude and uncouth

And it sure ain’t Christian behavior

And you expect anybody take you serious after you
Puff yourself up
Like you be the messiah who everybody should follow
Cause God only revealed truth to yo?
Come on man
Get real
You can’t even get the basics right
Didn’t yo momma teach you to be nice ?

They are levels of blindness
Satan can blind a mind to a truth

not saying that what happened
Only it could be
The Pharisees accused Jesus Himself of being aligned with Beezebub
Could be you pointing a finger at someone
Who had truth given before you

The jury’s still out

Looks like you need some milk. :)
 
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I don't think I'd seek something like that out - unless you're called into the ministry. There is supposedly an increased need for it due to an uptick in this type of activity.
I won't you're right, I might bring something I don't want back with me, was even thinking about visiting Ronnie Defeo in Jail, but have given that Idea up.
 

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The Bible tells us that we are to (1) try the spirits, and (2) prove all things. Furthermore we will judge angels. So that makes me a judge of what is true and what is false right now.

When Christians go off on tangents and get into weird and bizarre ideas, they are to be corrected by other Christians, since Scripture is given for both reproof and correction (2 Tim 3:16). And those who are corrected should thank those who correct them, rather than chafe at the correction.

You've been dumping on Trump just like all the Left-Liberal Anarchists when you should be thanking God for putting Trump in office. And that is because you are allowing yourself to be influenced by liars.
Hey Enoch
Lot of folks accused Jesus of going off on tangents and speaking lies
When it was He who spoke truth

so if I understand this correctly
You just self appointed yourself
To be the “corrector”
Of others in here?

Move over Jesus
This man just appointed himself
To sit on the throne next to You

He so filled with his self that
Everybody else got to be wrong and him right
Whew

you need a reality check
You not over others
Better than others
A better bible student
Or any other thing you
Fancy yourself to be

You clamoring to sit next to Jesus like the apostle

Pride

a subject should be discussed
viewpoints considered
But this puffed up baloney
Is what it is
Pride
Take it
Some where else man
 
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Hey Stan
Do your homework before declaring a truth or untruth or you be promoting a lie
I challenge you to study the history of the Menorah and the pentagram
You then see why
Christians foolish worshipping
A place that has a pentagram flying
Overhead

is it a deal?
Nope!! I consider all this Satanic Pentagram fantasy stuff to be totally bogus.

If you cannot support your nonsense from Scripture, then I am not remotely interested in what you have to say. Your drivel comes from transparent anti-semitic, anti-zionist God-hating servants of the dark one.
 
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Looks like you need some milk. :)
Haha
Not the milk of haughtiness thank you

what wrong with people on here?
People claiming to be Christ Ian and they act like hellions

No wonder Christ Ian’s are looked on as hypocrites
 

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Nope!! I consider all this Satanic Pentagram fantasy stuff to be totally bogus.

If you cannot support your nonsense from Scripture, then I am not remotely interested in what you have to say. Your drivel comes from transparent anti-semitic, anti-zionist God-hating servants of the dark one.
Holy smokes
Finger pointing !
Accusations!
I’m right and you’re wrong
And I’m gonna beat ya over the head with it
I’m so right that I’m gonna accuse you
Of hating all Jews! (That’s ugly man. Real ugly. I got Jewish friends. You not of the right spirit
Whose spirit you of?
You not in Jesus spirit man

I Stan I’m even gonna accuse you of being in league with the devil!
(Never mind you worshipping a nation that’s flying the devil flag, that’s inconsequential) huh!? (Head scratch)

Stan it be you with hate in your heart
You so filled with self righteousness you can’t see straight
Making accusations like that is ugly man real ugly
And you think you the Christian with the right answers right?
I ain’t seen nobody here that’s a good witness whose word I’d trust
I see abusive
Self righteous
Hypocrites
Hurl lying accusations
Off a serpents tongue
Have a good day
 
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Who is worthy of what?

Are you worthy of NT salvation?

The Jews in Israel are not worthy?

Oh boy!
Worthy of Jesus Christ are they ?
Only 10 % may be worthy of the OT !

Claiming to be a Jew does not make you one in fact. no one can be a Jew and not follow The OT or have great regard for such.

Claiming to be a Christian does not make you one in fact and Jesus pointed this out about who say such.

So any Jew who is not worthy of the OT is condemned just on that point and any Jew who rejects Moses is an anathema, most so called Jews today are just only Satanist and the same can be said of most claiming to be Christians nowadays, because they do not abide in Jesus Christ, but fact is that they truly only serve mans works. the works of Satan has lead them all astray.

Most fools nowadays are idolising the so called Jews, a True Christian only has regard for the OT in that it's the blueprint for the NT. and Jesus Christ came in fact, but what is being peddled nowadays in the churches is that Jesus has not truly come ? and that they are waiting for the one :rolleyes: just like the stupid foolish Jews and Islam mob are, fact is that such people are Anti-Christ. sure there devil is coming to power and that moron will rule from the State they call Israel, over the whole world. it's the NWO global Communism and the Pope is pushing for this rubbish and Christianity will become illegal and replaced by a new god of Political persuading in that politics becomes god and no one has the right to question that god that they idolise, all it is, is a leadership like rocket man, ect idolised as a god dominating over all the people like a mongrel dog and everyone brown nose him regardless, History is littered with such murderous people and their creeps.

Jesus said and did all 2000 years ago that we needed, but most Christians don't believe that is a fact, they think that they need more and that's because they are not truly born again and that's why they look outward and not to Christ Jesus, fact is that they are disregarding Jesus as the Christ. fact is that there is nothing outside of Jesus Christ that is of any worthiness as to God.

The new age Christianity today is like a dog that chases it's tail, it thinks something is their but just goes about chasing figments in circles. they have no direction because they do not know Jesus Christ. they are only religious dupes, just as the Jews and Islam is, same mob of clowns and that's why the biggest fool produced out of the RCC Pope Francis claims that the Jews and Islam is worthy too same god as he idolises. this proves that he is not born again ! Bible points out that you must be born again to understand God and that no one comes to the Father but how ? :)
 
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Worthy of Jesus Christ are they ?
Only 10 % may be worthy of the OT !

Claiming to be a Jew does not make you one in fact. no one can be a Jew and not follow The OT or have great regard for such.

Claiming to be a Christian does not make you one in fact and Jesus pointed this out about who say such.

So any Jew who is not worthy of the OT is condemned just on that point and any Jew who rejects Moses is an anathema, most so called Jews today are just only Satanist and the same can be said of most claiming to be Christians nowadays, because they do not abide in Jesus Christ, but fact is that they truly only serve mans works. the works of Satan has lead them all astray.

Most fools nowadays are idolising the so called Jews, a True Christian only has regard for the OT in that it's the blueprint for the NT. and Jesus Christ came in fact, but what is being peddled nowadays in the churches is that Jesus has not truly come ? and that they are waiting for the one :rolleyes: just like the stupid foolish Jews and Islam mob are, fact is that such people are Anti-Christ. sure there devil is coming to power and that moron will rule from the State they call Israel, over the whole world. it's the NWO global Communism and the Pope is pushing for this rubbish and Christianity will become illegal and replaced by a new god of Political persuading in that politics becomes god and no one has the right to question that god that they idolise, all it is, is a leadership like rocket man, ect idolised as a god dominating over all the people like a mongrel dog and everyone brown nose him regardless, History is littered with such murderous people and their creeps.

Jesus said and did all 2000 years ago that we needed, but most Christians don't believe that is a fact, they think that they need more and that's because they are not truly born again and that's why they look outward and not to Christ Jesus, fact is that they are disregarding Jesus as the Christ. fact is that there is nothing outside of Jesus Christ that is of any worthiness as to God.

The new age Christianity today is like a dog that chases it's tail, it thinks something is their but just goes about chasing figments in circles. they have no direction because they do not know Jesus Christ. they are only religious dupes, just as the Jews and Islam is, same mob of clowns and that's why the biggest fool produced out of the RCC Pope Francis claims that the Jews and Islam is worthy too same god as he idolises. this proves that he is not born again ! Bible points out that you must be born again to understand God and that no one comes to the Father but how ? :)
You should compare apples to apples. Jews to gentiles. All are corrupt

Are you, a gentile, better than they?

Read Romans 11:25-26 lately?

Is this passage speaking of future National Israel or someone else?
 

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Haha
Not the milk of haughtiness thank you

what wrong with people on here?
People claiming to be Christ Ian and they act like hellions

No wonder Christ Ian’s are looked on as hypocrites
Just a joke my man, that's all, Bobby Jo will know what it means. :)
 

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LOL!

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. - Romans 2:1

1 Cor. 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

We are to JUDGE within the church, but not outside of the church. :)
Bobby Jo
 

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Holy smokes
Finger pointing !
Accusations!
I’m right and you’re wrong
And I’m gonna beat ya over the head with it
I’m so right that I’m gonna accuse you
Of hating all Jews! (That’s ugly man. Real ugly. I got Jewish friends. You not of the right spirit
Whose spirit you of?
You not in Jesus spirit man

I Stan I’m even gonna accuse you of being in league with the devil!
(Never mind you worshipping a nation that’s flying the devil flag, that’s inconsequential) huh!? (Head scratch)

Stan it be you with hate in your heart
You so filled with self righteousness you can’t see straight
Making accusations like that is ugly man real ugly
And you think you the Christian with the right answers right?
I ain’t seen nobody here that’s a good witness whose word I’d trust
I see abusive
Self righteous
Hypocrites
Hurl lying accusations
Off a serpents tongue
Have a good day

YOU'RE AN ACCUSER, but when I ACCUSE IT'S OK! -- Yep, there's no hypocrites here! :)


Bobby Jo