Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

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Enoch111

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so if I understand this correctly You just self appointed yourself To be the “corrector” Of others in here?
All Christians may correct other Christians. It is not a matter of self-appointment but a matter of applying Bible truth to error. Indeed it is our duty to correct those who are going off the rails.
 
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I study my bible every bit as much as you do.
You study anti-Trump and anti-Semitic propaganda as much as anything else. Indeed you have become obsessed with these things. You should be thanking God for Mr. Trump and his strong support for Israel (while the world hates Jews). And you should be thankful that Israel is a democracy that treats Arabs (not its enemies but those who live and work there) within its borders properly.
 
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I won't you're right, I might bring something I don't want back with me, was even thinking about visiting Ronnie Defeo in Jail, but have given that Idea up.

Maybe God is leading you into that ministry - there is apparently an uptick in the number of houses having problems like that. All Christians have authority but I would imagine you'd have to work under a professional to learn the right way to handle things.
 
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1 Cor. 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

We are to JUDGE within the church, but not outside of the church. :)
Bobby Jo


Matthew 7:1-5 - Judge not, that ye be not judged.

James 4:11-12 - Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of [his] brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

James 4:12 - There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Romans 2:1-3 - Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
 

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Nope!! I consider all this Satanic Pentagram fantasy stuff to be totally bogus.

If you cannot support your nonsense from Scripture, then I am not remotely interested in what you have to say. Your drivel comes from transparent anti-semitic, anti-zionist God-hating servants of the dark one.

I have not seen any anti-semitism. That's totally wrong to shoot fiery darts like that. You are shooting 'deadly poison.' I think it is you who are doing the work of the evil one. And for Bobby Jo to 'like' it is just as evil. That's just like a leftist accusing you of being an angry white man trying to make use of your white privilege, or accusing you of being an Islamaphobe, or patriarchy or whatever else is the accusation du jour. You're employing the same tactics you accuse them of.

I am always amazed on here when I see Christians doing evil and others "liking" it. There is no "come let us reason together" as in the Spirit of Christ (except for Bobby Jo putting smiley faces after someone calls him out on meanness) but so-called Christians who spew hate and accusations because they disagree with your hermeneutics! And then they try to pass it off as "judging" righteously. Yet if someone tries to judge THEM righteously it's another story. Like Christ found with the Pharisees, they were quick to shoot (false) accusations at him yet they never took a look at their own selves! Isn't that why Christ spoke the famous words "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?"

Luke 18:11

“The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.”

James 3:8 - But the tongue can no man tame; [it is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

Proverbs 12:18 - There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword: but the tongue of the wise [is] health.

Ephesians 4:32

“And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.”
 
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YOU'RE AN ACCUSER, but when I ACCUSE IT'S OK! -- Yep, there's no hypocrites here! :)


Bobby Jo

I think he's trying to point out the hypocrisy of you "destroying your neighbor" when you disagree with their theology or politics.

Proverbs 11:9 - An hypocrite with [his] mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through knowledge shall the just be delivered.
 

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All Christians may correct other Christians. It is not a matter of self-appointment but a matter of applying Bible truth to error. Indeed it is our duty to correct those who are going off the rails.

Okay Enoch then I'm going to correct you!

You think you're always right and that means everybody else but you is wrong.

You place yourself in the position of the Most High!

And because I'm right that gives me the right to put you down, ridicule your beliefs, and puff myself up since I'm the final authority on Scripture.

Proverbs 16:5 - Every one [that is] proud in heart [is] an abomination to the LORD:

Proverbs 1:5 - A wise [man] will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
 
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You study anti-Trump and anti-Semitic propaganda as much as anything else. Indeed you have become obsessed with these things. You should be thanking God for Mr. Trump and his strong support for Israel (while the world hates Jews). And you should be thankful that Israel is a democracy that treats Arabs (not its enemies but those who live and work there) within its borders properly.

You're perpetrating a LIE Enoch.

I do NOT study any anti-Trump or anti-semitic propaganda. You are stepping on dangerous ground and have entered the dangerous territory of sinning with the tongue and of pride. You are doing the work of the accuser of the brethren.

Exodus 20:16 - Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

You are puffed up with pride and desire the place of significance; of thinking that your word is law, that only you know the truth and that gives you the right to denigrate another's views or theology.

Luke 20:46-47 - Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;

You shoot fiery darts at those who you disagree with! Your words are not designed or intended to build another believer up, only to "prove" that believer wrong. Your pride is on display!

Luke 18:11

“The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.”

Luke 18:11 according to Enoch:

"I thank thee Lord that unlike these other people I have studied my bible. I thank thee Lord that unlike these other people I understand my bible. I thank thee Lord that unlike these other people I know the truth behind politics."

1 Peter 2:1-25 - Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of the LORD [is] to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
 
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Bobby Jo said:
1 Cor. 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
We are to JUDGE within the church, but not outside of the church. :)
Bobby Jo


Yep YOU WIN. Let's throw out 1 Cor. 14:29, because it's obviously NOT OF GOD.

Are there any other Books, Chapters, or Verses which we should get rid of?

2 Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


Well yeah, we MUST throw out that one ... Whew!
Bobby Jo
 

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All Christians may correct other Christians. It is not a matter of self-appointment but a matter of applying Bible truth to error. Indeed it is our duty to correct those who are going off the rails.


Hi Enoch111,

Let me suggest: All Christians MUST correct other Christians, and you ARE CORRECT that IT IS OUR DUTY. Paul corrected PETER, a DISCIPLE. And so too we MUST be fully engaged active participants in the church:

2 Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


... and we ARE in the Tribulation, so what we see in Washington, we also will see in Society and in the church,
Bobby Jo
 

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You study anti-Trump and anti-Semitic propaganda as much as anything else. Indeed you have become obsessed with these things. You should be thanking God for Mr. Trump and his strong support for Israel (while the world hates Jews). And you should be thankful that Israel is a democracy that treats Arabs (not its enemies but those who live and work there) within its borders properly.
I’m pro Trump and am happy he moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, but with all due respect did not the Jews kill Christ, is that being anti Semitic?

I’m anti anyone who is anti Christ.
 
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You study anti-Trump and anti-Semitic propaganda as much as anything else. Indeed you have become obsessed with these things. You should be thanking God for Mr. Trump and his strong support for Israel (while the world hates Jews). And you should be thankful that Israel is a democracy that treats Arabs (not its enemies but those who live and work there) within its borders properly.
And you be proof
The bankster propaganda machine
Is working
You spew out just what they feed ya
Trump ain’t getting attacked
He’s in the club
You see he’s in pics with Epstein
They all in it together
Look at the pic of Ellen Degenerates with Bush
They all laughing at the dumb goyim they fool
Trump still funding the murder of babies and war machine
Why you look the other way?
Shows how Christ Ian’s can be corrupt don’t it?
Man you need some discernment
Pray for it
God will give it
But ya got to pray for it
First thing to do is
Consider you may have been fooled
I’ll be praying for you man
I want to see you get this
 

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Hi Enoch111,

Let me suggest: All Christians MUST correct other Christians, and you ARE CORRECT that IT IS OUR DUTY. Paul corrected PETER, a DISCIPLE. And so too we MUST be fully engaged active participants in the church:

2 Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


... and we ARE in the Tribulation, so what we see in Washington, we also will see in Society and in the church,
Bobby Jo

Ok fan Enoch’s ego
Tell him he correct

“WE” must correct other Christians Bobby?

“WE” as in Bobby and Enoch correcting everybody ELSE?

what about “WE” correcting “YOU”?

Are you willing to TAKE correction?
 

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Yep YOU WIN. Let's throw out 1 Cor. 14:29, because it's obviously NOT OF GOD.

Are there any other Books, Chapters, or Verses which we should get rid of?

2 Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


Well yeah, we MUST throw out that one ... Whew!
Bobby Jo
Whew is right
All that “correcting” must get tiring eh Bobby?
 

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You study anti-Trump and anti-Semitic propaganda as much as anything else. Indeed you have become obsessed with these things. You should be thanking God for Mr. Trump and his strong support for Israel (while the world hates Jews). And you should be thankful that Israel is a democracy that treats Arabs (not its enemies but those who live and work there) within its borders properly.[/QUOT

you just don’t got discernment to see
That Trump is put there by the banksters
If you seek truth
God will show you
 
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You're perpetrating a LIE Enoch. I do NOT study any anti-Trump or anti-semitic propaganda.
Any poster on this board will confirm that you have started thread after thread attacking Trump and attacking Israel and the Jews. And you have posted REAMS of unnecessary information -- information overload. So how can I be perpetrating a lie? That's a good defensive tactic, but it won't work since your threads are all there. The title of this thread itself is proof positive, connecting Israel to the devil.
 

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That did not give Gentile Christians the mandate to hate Jews. Indeed Paul told Gentile Christians to not be high-minded in their attitude toward unbelieving Jews.
I don’t hate them Enoch111.
 

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I don’t hate them Enoch111.
I was not referring to you. But let's face it. Europe was Christianized a long time ago, and along with that went a hatred for Jews because of what you pointed out. The culmination of that hatred was the Holocaust (not to mention Jewish massacres outside of those camps).
 
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I was not referring to you. But let's face it. Europe was Christianized a long time ago, and along with that went a hatred for Jews because of what you pointed out. The culmination of that hatred was the Holocaust (not to mention Jewish massacres outside of those camps).

... and if I might point out, -- we Gentiles are able to receive that which might not have been available to us if the Jews hadn't rejected Jesus. And so by their misstep we benefit, -- but they must wait until Jesus returns to realize their mistake.

And so GOD's plan for man's salvation is PERFECT in it's harmony, so that ALL can come to the knowledge!
Bobby Jo
 
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