Prophets

DNB said:

Well, the Bible of course, after all, this is a Christian forum.
But, seriously, did you just use Trump & righteous in the same sentence?
BJ, your views are radical, how you equate the current times with that of the Great Tribulation as defined in the bible, and then have the audacity to claim that Trump is under the auspices of God, are completely beyond me. I'd swear that we were talking about two completely different publications, events and characters?
I'm sorry BJ, to me, you're completely coming out of left field?

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Well, if the Lord is using trump, it's definitely not because he is a prophet lol, it's probably for some other reason but whatever that purpose may be I know the Lord is still in control and his words will not pass away...the bible says everything is temporary will pass away but his words will not .. so either stick to the word and truth ...and prophecies of the bible or follow the world and it's truths and pass away with it...Donald trump may be a political leader and the president of the United states now but don't expect the man to cause any miracles because he is capable of falling into error just like the rest of us and anyone else who walks on this earth...and I can't speak for God but I know darn well Donald trump is not a prophet sent from God...that's just ludicrous...and if he is ..I don't see why the Lord would place his prophet in the political world...those people may have power but they have it and use it in thier own way and schemes to most likely to decieve the country and the whole nation...and the last person I would trust is someone with such power, we truly don't know what these men are up to behind closed doors but the Lord knows cause he is the only one who sees everything that goes on in this crooked world..... Besides God doesn't need to be in the political world or need approval..because he already has power and authority over this whole world and universe...so I don't see why a prophet would need to be placed in such an environment it entails....Donald trump may be a lot of things but I know he is not a prophet....that's just crazy...some people need to know where they are getting thier information and who they are getting it from cause clearly reading stuff like this means someone is being misled and misinformed....and decieved from the real truth....and I truly believe these Is one of those myths you posted about above in that scripture...believing something cause it fits your ears well and it pumps your heart...people better get out of herrrrre with that nonsense Lol and saying stuff like that around Donald Trump will just boost his ego more and make him actually believe he was sent on earth from God with some special mission...etc

Enoch111 said:

The last prophet to bring genuinely divine messages was John, who closed out all prophecies in Revelation. Today God wants evangelists, pastors, and teachers to do what they have been called to do. Everything we need is already in Scripture (2 Tim 3:16,17).

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even so Jesus said there was none greater then John.. there might not be a true prophet out there today but I l know there are false teachers and apostles and evangelist out there as well too not just false prophets... etc. And maybe there is another one in there..maybe you not looking right .lol

Anyone can make themselves a servant and preach a sermon and call themselves a servant of God just as any church member can sit in the front row on Sunday morning and called themselves a Christian..I don't even know where that word came from..and actually correct me if I'm wrong but I do not see the word " Christian" in the Bible anywhere..I see "Christ" but I don't remember seeing the word Christian anywhere in the Bible. Christian does not mean anything ..just another word..and a label people put on themselves and that's perfectly fine ..but no one should make themselves a servant or prophet and label them selves sent from God cause that's pure deception..when they do that they are not only fooling themselves but they fooling those around them...If the Lord ain't sent ya, don't say he did speaking lies out of your a**...when in reality those teachers and apostles are probably just well educated people with college and bible degrees...but send someone possess with the holy spirit speaking with fire and see how fast that person gets rejected or thrown out the "seminars" church buildings or whatever may be...that's the problem with Christianity today..they not speaking through the holy spirit..but from thier own ideas beliefs and opinions... from thier own mouths...a little truth here and a little there but even Jesus said if we lost the salt given to us there would be no seasoned earth or people..and because of that I think that is why the world is bitter and has lost its flavor..lol especially in denominations and religions such as CHRISTIANITY... But that's all we need is the holy spirit..not no darn bible degrees... . Duhhhh ...

And even if Donald Trump were a prophet, id be asking myself why the man is still living and isn't dead yet ..yet why Jesus was rejected and died on a cross suffering the way he did...

Not everyone can be prophets or servants, atleast your mind heart and attitude has to be right..but a prophet or servant does not make them better then anyone else just chosen men and women under the Lord's will and authority and knowing they are under his authority even the Lord has to correct his "righteous" servants sometimes...so.. even if the bible says none there ain't righteous so what you talking about...we may not be righteous in his eyes but he can see through our hearts...and what kind of attitude and character we have and what kind of person we can be..and I believe no one has that kinda power or authority on this earth here or has the right to exercise that kinda power and authority unless the Lord empowered and gifted it on that person or persons...and an unbelieving attitude gets you no where and neither does it gets his servants prophets and workmanships ..it only decieves the whole assembly and gets the prophets killed...for stupid people who think they possess all God's knowledge and truths...when in fact I know in the Bible the only ones the Lord revealed his secrets to was his prophets....

Why you think when John the Baptist said that there was one greater then him coming afterwards and that he was not worthy enough to untie his shoes and how when he baptized Jesus the dove flew over him and the father spoke saying" this is my son who I am well pleased" because God was pleased with him..he had the spirit and favor of God upon him..he had the right heart attitude and mind so God gave him a name above others crowned him with glory and gave him authority over us and this earth.. he gave him a mission for him to become a servant, a prophet to send him to earth to die on the cross for us because he was the only one righteous and worthy enough to do such an act.... *Eyeroll* John was worthy enough to prepare the way for Jesus but was not worthy enough to take his seat cause what was for John was for John and what was Jesus what was for Jesus only cause he was born for that purpose just like John was born for his purpose to preach repentence and turn away from thier sins but while he didn't know the exact time Jesus would come to fulfill his mission cause he knew Jesus was gonna come John did what he had to do..he was to prepare the way until it was that time for Jesus and give the people that warning....don't be stupid..just like when people didn't recognize Jesus in the earlier times people won't recognize him the second time...they will do what they always do and say what they always say and what y'all proclaiming someone a false prophet...oh but how foolish it is to have such unbelieving hearts....

The Lord doesn't curse the earth ..y'all do by cursing and rejecting his people and suffering and killing his prophets..and y'all wanna complain how bad the world is when y'all kill the men and women who brings the truth to it...The Lord doesn't curse the earth y'all do that by bringing it upon yourselves and speaking out of your own mouths with lies, insults, persecution, false accusations, assumptions and another misguided truth but there is another truth I know, how I know the bible says we are not to take away from it or add anything to the book of prophecies and because of y'all doing that that's one of the reasons y'all bring the curses upon yourselves ...

Heart2Soul said:

Good Morning @Jennifer! I know how you feel concerning this subject. I have had this debate with others on this forum and another for 2 years now....here is where I stand on the matter....when God established HIS church He appointed Apostles, Prophets, preachers, teachers and evangelist for the perfecting of the saints. Each role has a specific responsibility and accountability to Him in teaching them to be disciples of Christ so that they are rightly equipped to minister to others. They are held to a higher standard of commitment in knowing His Will and His Word and should be examples to others of the life we are to live. One of the reasons the church today is in such a mess is because they changed the order of what and how God intended for the church to operate.
But be encouraged for He is restoring His Church and these are the churches that will be the ones He sends out to reap the harvest.
Jesus commanded His disciples to go and make disciples of His Truth and said everything you have seen me do will you do also and even greater because He was leaving.
To deny there are apostles or prophets today is foolish and a lie from Satan. Isn't it strange how people who refuse to believe that they exist have no problem believing in Satan's power to deceive through false prophets, false teachers, and false witnesses....and who also quickly agree that he can perform miracles in order to deceive people in believing he is Jesus Christ...
You are very passionate about prophets...do you have this gift or calling?

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They said that cause they don't believe anything..they say it's the devil cause they don't want it to be Jesus or they truly do not believe anything..they are like the modern day phariees ..having a form of godliness but denying the power of God and his power..just like the Pharisee rejected Jesus people reject his prophets yet still claim they love God and know him...etc

Heart2Soul said:

Well I wouldn't go so far as to say they don't believe....I believe that many of them have been taught things in ignorance or error...but the Holy Spirit who Jesus referred to as the Spirit of Truth is able to open their eyes and heart to see the truth if they are willing to receive Him.
Just pray for them and continue to be humble before God. He knows who is seeking His Truth and those who seek Him will find Him.

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It's been over 2,000 years how many more excuses we need?

Bobby Jo said:

Ummmm, actually we're all called to receive the hidden things of GOD:

Jeremiah 33:3 Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things which you have not known.

John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.​

Bobby Jo

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it's one thing to reveal something to someone and another thing to trust that person..

Bobby Jo said:

Certainly the two prophets WILL BOTH be killed. -- And so we'll see!


Bobby Jo

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I know for certain Donald Trump is not a prophet..that's so not true..

i know for certain Donald Trump is not a prophet..that's so not true...more like a dictator of some sort...

Bobby Jo said:

Would you rather have a person whose "killed his ten thousands"; and had HUNDREDS of wives; and committed adultery and then murdered the husband? David was a Chosen Vessel, but someone with a LESS CRITICAL background cannot be a Chosen Vessel?


Perhaps you should see things though GOD's eyes!
Bobby Jo

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What the hell you talking about? All Donald Trump will ever be is Donald trump and who had a hundred wives and what does that have to do with being a prophet? Didn't the bible say nobody is righteous but y'all keep believing that crap...and who says Donald Trump would not do worst! Who has Donald Trump slept with?