Warning Signs of a Diabolical Spirit and How to Recognize Them

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ThePuffyBlob

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Satan disguises himself as an angle of light, and that happens in every single denomination, NOT just Catholics. Just sayin :)
Yup but it includes catholic and the thread starter fully support catholic and since there are alot of issues like repetition and the ts even put a repetition prayer, the idols, the newest modified bible that has lesser 10commandments etc so i only put catholic
 
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13. Excessive attachment to sensible consolations, particularly in their practice of prayer.

I'm not sure this would always be a diabolical spirit (in my opinion.) I like what St John of the Cross had to say about it...I think a good spiritual director would be able to help and guide, as to whether a person was being weaned from their senses or whether they were in serious danger. Gluttony as regards the senses is dealt with by Gods weaning. Gluttony in spirit is more serious.

I dont think a baby being weaned and having some distress over sensible consolations drying up is a diabolical spirit.
 

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I come across diabolical spirits everyday, it drains me of my energy fighting them.
Me too, but it's not our fight. I deal with drug addicts, The Homeless, prostitutes regularly. Protestants fight demons, we just let Mary do the work. Every big family needs a great Mother!
 
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Me too, but it's not our fight. I deal with drug addicts, The Homeless, prostitutes regularly. Protestants fight demons, we just let Mary do the work. Every big family needs a great Mother!
I sent you a private message you never responded, did you get it?
 

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Yup but it includes catholic and the thread starter fully support catholic and since there are alot of issues like repetition and the ts even put a repetition prayer, the idols, the newest modified bible that has lesser 10commandments etc so i only put catholic
NOTE: This is not a game. Whatever you may think of Catholic theology, I politely request no debating, no juvenile flaming zingers. That *could have* adverse effects on your spiritual wellbeing, not mine.
[from the OP you ignored)
 

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NOTE: This is not a game. Whatever you may think of Catholic theology, I politely request no debating, no juvenile flaming zingers. That *could have* adverse effects on your spiritual wellbeing, not mine.
[from the OP you ignored)
i am not debating i am just stating facts can't i?
 

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Mary has no power.
Correct. Mary has no power by herself. Catholicism has always taught this. Anything done by Mary is only done by the permission and power of God through the grace of Christ. Period. The big problem, IMO, is that for 400 years of erosion of the reformists beliefs about Mary, many ill-informed Protestants (who can't even call Mary "blessed" in any of their literature) make stupid complaints about a devotion.
 

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i am not debating i am just stating facts can't i?
You don't state facts, you state paranoid anti-Catholic fundamentalist garbage that has no place in this thread. You disregard epostle's polite request because anti-Catholics are short on manners. 90% of what you have been taught about the Catholic Church is false. Have a bash fest on another thread and try to reply to Catholics like we were human beings.
 

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Correct. Mary has no power by herself. Catholicism has always taught this. Anything done by Mary is only done by the permission and power of God through the grace of Christ. Period. The big problem, IMO, is that for 400 years of erosion of the reformists beliefs about Mary, many ill-informed Protestants (who can't even call Mary "blessed" in any of their literature) make stupid complaints about a devotion.
Why does anyone have any devotion to Mary? We do not owe anything to Mary.
 

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There are Protestant and Catholic deliverance counselors. Input from a reputable Protestant deliverance ministry would be refreshing. There are a few churches that are spiritually and psychologically abusive. The OP counters extremism.
 

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Why does anyone have any devotion to Mary? We do not owe anything to Mary.
Can you possibly be that hostile that you won't even let me agree with you??? Smart people don't waste time explaining anything to a person who has their fists clenched. Sometimes, I'm not very smart.
 

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Can you possibly be that hostile that you won't even let me agree with you??? Smart people don't waste time explaining anything to a person who has their fists clenched. Sometimes, I'm not very smart.
My point is that Mary doesn't even interact with us in any way, nor does she act on our behalf, intercede on our behalf, give merit to us or anything else. Mary is just another sinner saved by grace. Nothing less, nothing more.
 
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“THE RITE” EARNS RESPECT
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on movie reviews of “The Rite”:

“THE RITE” EARNS RESPECT

Unfailingly, whenever there is a TV show or movie that touches on subjects like Transubstantiation—the transformation of bread and wine into the body and blood of Jesus—the Virgin birth, apparitions, the stigmata, even confession, it is the subject of ridicule and insulting commentary. But when it comes to the phenomenon of exorcism, it’s hard to find anyone who mocks it.

Catholic League staffers reviewed over 600 movie reviews of “The Rite” that appeared in mainline media outlets. Aside from a few snotty remarks, the subject of exorcism was given a respectful hearing: none was derisive. The cast of “The Rite” was also respectful: none lambasted the idea that demons could be purged by a trained Roman Catholic priest.

This is good news. Evil exists, and everyone save for a fringe minority, admits it. More important, the belief that the devil can be conquered also exists. That the Catholic Church has a mechanism to deal with it is hardly surprising. After all, it was founded by Jesus Christ, the Son of God.



As a parent and grandfather, I do not recommend this for children under 14.
So all you are doing here is promoting a religion, whatever happened to Jesus???
 

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So all you are doing here is promoting a religion, whatever happened to Jesus???
No, I am trying to discuss deliverance ministry in an anti-Catholic pro-Calvin forum. It's not my fault (epostle) there has been no positive input from non-Catholic Christians, just derailers and insults from anti-Catholics. Maybe it's because most of the members here don't have a deliverance ministry, or deliverance aspects, in their churches. The purpose of the thread is to educate, and show that deliverance ministry is not primitive and barbaric as it is performed in SOME faith communities, and that everybody needs some kind of deliverance in some form. Not argue about Catholic Mariology. (the standard derailer when anti-Catholics have nothing to say about any given topic, such as the weather) If you can't see JESUS in the first few posts, there is nothing I can say that will correct your blindness.
The Bible clearly shows that Mary, through the grace of Christ, has great power over Satan. If you refuse to see that then you don't believe the Bible. But nowhere in the first page of this thread is Mary mentioned. Enoch sums it up well in post #11, but can't help to bring up Mary. The hostility about Catholic devotion to Jesus' mother is anti-Christian, denies development and not biblical. Anti-Catholics are more obsessed over Marian devotion than Catholics, in my experience.

Unfortunately, the anti-Catholics that dominate this forum don't care what Catholics really believe, nor do they care what the early Protestant reformers taught. Challenging with nonsensical arguments about what Catholics DON"T BELIEVE is not rational discussion, so I can't be bothered with Taylor's rants. But for open minded enquirers here is a link that explains everything about Mary but you were afraid to ask:
Mary: The Blessed Virgin (Index Page) There is more...
No matter how hard they try, anti-Catholics cannot throw Mary out of the bible. Now lets get back on the topic of deliverance, shall we? If that's possible in a pro-Calvin anti-Catholic forum.
 
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No, I am trying to discuss deliverance ministry in an anti-Catholic pro-Calvin forum. It's not my fault (epostle) there has been no positive input from non-Catholic Christians, just derailers and insults from anti-Catholics. Maybe it's because most of the members here don't have a deliverance ministry, or deliverance aspects, in their churches. The purpose of the thread is to educate, and show that deliverance ministry is not primitive and barbaric as it is performed in SOME faith communities, and that everybody needs some kind of deliverance in some form. Not argue about Catholic Mariology. (the standard derailer when anti-Catholics have nothing to say about any given topic, such as the weather) If you can't see JESUS in the first few posts, there is nothing I can say that will correct your blindness.
The Bible clearly shows that Mary, through the grace of Christ, has great power over Satan. If you refuse to see that then you don't believe the Bible. But nowhere in the first page of this thread is Mary mentioned. Enoch sums it up well in post #11, but can't help to bring up Mary. The hostility about Catholic devotion to Jesus' mother is anti-Christian, denies development and not biblical. Anti-Catholics are more obsessed over Marian devotion than Catholics, in my experience.

Unfortunately, the anti-Catholics that dominate this forum don't care what Catholics really believe, nor do they care what the early Protestant reformers taught. Challenging with nonsensical arguments about what Catholics DON"T BELIEVE is not rational discussion, so I can't be bothered with Taylor's rants. But for open minded enquirers here is a link that explains everything about Mary but you were afraid to ask:
Mary: The Blessed Virgin (Index Page) There is more...
No matter how hard they try, anti-Catholics cannot throw Mary out of the bible. Now lets get back on the topic of deliverance, shall we? If that's possible in a pro-Calvin anti-Catholic forum.

Hello @Illuminator , and welcome to the forum. I am not Catholic but was raised Catholic. I have many Catholic friends. I do believe that The Virgin Mary is to be blessed among all women and to be honored as such. My only problem with certain Catholic beliefs is that she herself was born without sin, and prayers TO her. In the scriptures it say's that Jesus Christ is the only mediator to God the Father. BTW-there only a few Calvinists on this forum and I most certainly do NOT believe in that doctrine! Yikes!! I personally believe that Genesis 3:15 is pertaining to Eve. JMHO
Peace and Love in Jesus,
nancy
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