Does the day of Christ resurrection tell us to worship on Sunday?

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ReChoired

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From what I have been told the OT Jewish Calendar ...
No such thing in scripture. Moses was Hebrew of Levi, not of Judah. Zipporah wasn't even that, neither the mixed multitude that came out of Egypt. The Calendar in scripture belongs to God, since God created it (even beginning with Genesis). It is God's calendar, and especially the feasts given in Leviticus 23.

and the calendar we use today is not in sync with each other..
Whomever told this to you, erred greatly, and several citations from scripture, from Jesus, and even historically (and currently) may be provided upon request. The 7th day back then in Genesis, is the same 7th day we have today. Time has not been lost or misplaced.

...also there are many people who keep everyday as Holy unto the Lord.
That is impossible, and man-centric religion. Only God can make something holy, see Genesis 2:1-3. God did not make every day of the week, "holy", but rather, only a specific one, the 7th day (Exodus 20:8-11). Therefore, man cannot keep that 'holy' which was never made "holy" by God, unless they are attempting to place themselves in the place of God?

...and the "rest" isn't that what we enter when we are saved? We enter into His Rest. ...
"His rest" (Hebrews 4), refers directly to Genesis 2:1-3, the 7th day. In short (much more detailed upon request):

Hebrews 3-4 (among many others; John 14:15; Exodus 20:6; Isaiah 56:1,8; John 10:16; Isaiah 56:2-7, Acts 4:24, 14:15; Revelation 10:6, 14:6-7, &c).

Hebrews 3-4 is clear.

Hebrews 4:3, "my (God's) rest" and "the works were finished from the foundation of the world", which is a direct reference to Genesis 2:1-3. It even uses the word "finished". God rested the 7th day in Genesis 2:1-3. It is His rest, the 7th day, the sabbath (rest) of the LORD thy God, Exodus 20:8-11.

Hebrews 4:4, "he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works", which "certain place" is Genesis 2:1-3; re-cited in Exodus 20:8-11. The 7th day the sabbath (rest) of the LORD thy God.

Hebrews 4:5, "my (God's) rest)", citing Psalms 95, which is citing Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11, etc. Again, this is the 7th day the sabbath (rest) of God at Creation in Genesis 2:1-3.

Hebrews 4:6, "remaineth", from when? "from the foundation of the world" as per Hebrews 4:3 and thus it is not new, but has been around from the beginning.

Hebrews 4:9, "rest", sabbatismos, literally and truly sabbath keeping in scripture and in all known extant Greek sources, dictionaries, and so on and again "remaineth".

Hebrews 4:10, "his (God's) rest", which is the 7th day the sabbath (rest) of the LORD thy God from Genesis 2:1-3., "as God did from his (works)", which "works were finished from the foundation of the world" as per Hebrews 4:3.

Hebrews 4:11, "that rest" (ie God's rest), the 7th day the sabbath (rest) of the LORD thy God.


...and finally do you really think God will deny us passage into heaven because we gathered in an assembly to worship Him on Sunday, or Monday or whatever day?
This is the strawman, or the non-sequitur argument. It is not what Seventh-day Adventist (etc) are saying. What we teach, from scripture, is that those who knowingly (not in ignorance, which God winks at, but still commands all to repent; Acts 17:30), transgress God's Law, shall not enter Heaven, where there is no sin (1 John 3:4; Romans 7:7, etc).

The body of believers may gather on any and every day with no injunction anywhere found in scripture against such, and in truth they met "daily", "continually", etc (Mat 26:55; Mar 14:49; Luk 22:53, 24:33,36; Acts 19:9) and likewise among the followers of Jesus Christ (Luk 24:51,53; Acts 1:3,9, 2:46-47, 5:42, 6:1, 16:5, 17:11,17; Heb 3:13, etc).

What we are saying is that such gathering on any and every day, does not negate that all mankind ought to keep the 4th Commandment (Exodus 20:8-11), which covers the whole week, not just the 7th day, and even the whole creation.

Isn't it the heart of man that will be judged?
All things will be judged, whether good or evil, and the whole person, not just heart, but all deeds, words and thoughts. See Ecclesiastes 12:13-14; 2 Corinthians 5:10, etc.

I have strong issues with church doctrines that teach people are in danger of being judged because of a day with which the come together to Worship His Holy Name.
I have strong issues with those who continually present a strawman, and make a caricature of the doctrine, and attempt by human reasoning to relegate God's explicit commandment to obscurity and do not listen to what we are saying in verity. All in scriptural "charity"/love (1 Cor. 13) of course.

Revelation 14:6-12 is warning, even right now, the whole world.

God is to be worshipped 24/7/365. That is not the matter. The matter is for those claiming to worship the true and living Creator God, do they honour Their Father in Heaven in keeping His commandments, especially the 4th:

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.​
 

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Y A W N... :rolleyes:

oh no...not ANOTHER thread on this...there have been so many...and some still going ...Nothing new, same ol' same ol' arguments ...o_O
If it be the same ol' arguments, why then have you not humbled yourself before God and submitted to His perfect will (Psalms 40:8), which is in the heart of Jesus:

Luk_18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

Mat_7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Mat_7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.​

It is the law of sowing and reaping from the beginning, that what is sown shall return unto you, always more than is sown, some 30, some 60 and some 100 fold:

Hos 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.​
 

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But He cannot make an end to them, not even by Jesus Christ?!
Christians do not keep the 'type', but rather the Christian is to keep the 'anti-type', as it is written:

Not the 'type':

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.​

but keep the Anti-type:

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1Co_5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

1Co_15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
1Co_15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

Zec_14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Zec_14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Zec_14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Heb_13:10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

Heb_13:15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

Rev_14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.​
 

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Christians do not keep the 'type', but rather the Christian is to keep the 'anti-type', as it is written:

Not the 'type':

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

No OT 'types' I can see here. The "spectre', yes, of what the NT CHURCH was in Paul's time, namely, the very "growth with the growth of God" in its very own and "near-present" future "in these last days".
 
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If it be the same ol' arguments, why then have you not humbled yourself before God and submitted to His perfect will (Psalms 40:8), which is in the heart of Jesus:

Luk_18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

Mat_7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Mat_7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.​

It is the law of sowing and reaping from the beginning, that what is sown shall return unto you, always more than is sown, some 30, some 60 and some 100 fold:

Hos 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.​

Helen said:
...Nothing new, same ol' arguments ...

She's dead on right. You can try 're-choire' your voices and re-wire your strings, they're stale, deaf, blind and NUMB ... and, out of tune, terribly false, off pitch, and in the wrong key altogether! How Helen can still yawn is above and beyond me.
 

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Helen said:
...Nothing new, same ol' arguments ...

She's dead on right. You can try 're-choire' your voices and re-wire your strings, they're stale, deaf, blind and NUMB ... and, out of tune, terribly false, off pitch, and in the wrong key altogether! How Helen can still yawn is above and beyond me.
When reasoning fails men, and they have no answer to the questions and statements provided them, and they have no scripture to stand upon, they are left with nothing but epithets, bitterness, name-calling, and curses and show what is really in their heart:

Act_2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

Rom_3:14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

Mat_26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.​
 

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And sure as a dead fish cannot climb out of the frying pan, this here...
When reasoning fails men, and they have no answer to the questions and statements provided them, and they have no scripture to stand upon, they are left with nothing but epithets, bitterness, name-calling, and curses and show what is really in their heart
...is the guaranteed, typical and standard of the loosers-defence.
 

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Act_2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

Rom_3:14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

Mat_26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.

Totally but TOTALLY irrelevant and out of place and : ABUSIVE AND FALSE AND HYPOCRITICAL
 

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Christians do not keep the 'type', but rather the Christian is to keep the 'anti-type', as it is written:

Not the 'type':

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.​

but keep the Anti-type:

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1Co_5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

1Co_15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
1Co_15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

Zec_14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Zec_14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Zec_14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Heb_13:10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

Heb_13:15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

Rev_14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.​

Kindly give an unambiguous confession of what you believe concerning the Day of Christian worship-rest? I am at a total loss at understanding you and draw conclusions that can be wrong and give offence.

Please tell me plainly, Do you believe "the DAY the Seventh Day is the Sabbath Rest-Day of the LORD GOD", YOUR Lord and God?

What is your reason for believing so (if you so believe)?
Only because it is the Fourth of the Ten Commandments, or, first, because Jesus Christ rose from the dead "on the Sabbath" in fulfilment of God's unchangeable Word of Purpose and Promise in Eternal Covenant of Grace?
 
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No text of scripture states what you state. Here is the timeline, irrefutable by scripture:

[the 7th Day Sabbath of the LORD thy God]

Jesus at Lazarus' house in Bethany [Mt. Olivet] – [John 12:1]

[the first [day] of the week]

Jesus Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem, "the next day" from leaving Lazarus' house, Hosanna! - [John 12:12,13; Matthew 21:10; Mark 11:11], goes to the Temple, and after looking around, leaves, since it was close to evening back out unto Mt. Olivet.


Agreed.

But,

Re:

<<the 7th Day Sabbath of the LORD thy God Jesus at Lazarus' house in Bethany [Mt. Olivet] – [John 12:1]>>

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Fine. According to Torah Law Jesus’ body was taken from the cross and was finished to be buried on Abib 15.

Friday Abib 15

Thursday Abib 14

Wednesday Abib 13

Tuesday Abib 12

Monday Abib 11

Sunday Abib 10

Saturday Abib 9 <<the 7th Day Sabbath .. Jesus at Lazarus' house in Bethany [Mt. Olivet] – [John 12:1]>>


Agreed!

So then,

Abib 10 <<the first [day] of the week Jesus Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem, "the next day" from leaving Lazarus' house, Hosanna! - [John 12:12,13; Matthew 21:10; Mark 11:11], goes to the Temple, and after looking around, leaves, since it was close to evening back out unto Mt. Olivet.>>


But you have not noticed that Matthew does not tell what Mark tells in verse 11, that <<after looking around, (Jesus) leaves, since it was close to evening back out unto Mt. Olivet.>> Does Mark add, or does Matthew omit or and add?


Do you say neither adds or omits? We’ll see.


Grailhunter aka ReChoire, you thought you did your homework?


'Palm-Sunday' : Entry into Jerusalem : 5 days before Abib 15 "Feast" is Abib 10
“Tenth day of the First Month”
Exodus 12:3 Ezekiel 40:1 “Bone-day”


John 12:12-19 “the next day”
=
Mark 11:1-11 from "near Bethany - Bethphage"; went into Jerusalem; went into temple, looked around (temple deserted); went out late, to Bethany
= Matthew 21:1-11
= Matthew 21:10 "He was come into Jerusalem"
= Matthew 21:11 "This is Jesus the Prophet"
Matthew 21:12 "He went into temple and cast out all that sold"
Matthew 21:15 "children shouting in the temple"
= Matthew 21:17 "He left them and went out of the city to Bethany where He slept the night in a stable."
= Luke 19:28-44 into Jerusalem to -- "the Time of thy Visitation thou knewest" is come


Last Week: Monday : 4 days before Abib 15 is Abib 11

Mark 11:12-14 “the morning ... from Bethany ... fig tree
= Matthew 21:18,19 “to the city ... fig tree
Mark 11:15-17 “into the temple ... chased out the traders”
= Luke 19:45,46 “into temple chased out traders”
= <<Matthew 21:12>> which was not the event of Palm Sunday, but of the following day, 'Monday' Abib 11:
Matthew 21:12 "He went into temple and cast out all that sold"

Also on the same day, ‘Monday’...
Matthew 21:15-17 “scribes and priests displeased by children who shouted in the temple”
= John 12:20-26 “There were certain Greeks”

Also on the same day, ‘Monday’...
Mark 11:18 “scribes and priests sought how they might destroy Him”
= Luke 19:47,48 “scribes and priests sought how they might destroy Him .. people were attentive to hear Him”

Thus, on 'Monday' the same day...
Mark 11:19 “When it became late He left the city”
= Matthew 21:17 “He left them and went out of the city to Bethany and there spent the night in a stable”
 

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[the first [day] of the week]

Jesus Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem, "the next day" from leaving Lazarus' house, Hosanna! - [John 12:12,13; Matthew 21:10; Mark 11:11], goes to the Temple, and after looking around, leaves, since it was close to evening back out unto Mt. Olivet.

[the second [day] of the week]

Jesus comes back, curses the fig tree, goes to the Temple, and cleanses the Temple for the Second [last] time of the Money Changers - [Matthew 21:12,13,17; Mark 11:12,15,16,17,19], and Jesus goes back out.

So it is the <reChoir> who is adding and omitting and enjoying himself thoroughly PERVERTS Scripture.

He leaves out Matthew 21:11 "This is Jesus the Prophet" the unmistakable call on <Jesus Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem> on <[the first [day] of the week]>;

And he adds Matthew 21:12 "He went into temple and cast out all that sold", to Matthew 21:15, "children shouting in the temple" which unmistakably happened on <[the third [day] of the week]> after ReChoire had wilfully omitted Mark 11:12-14 “the morning ... from Bethany ... fig tree” = Matthew 21:18,19 “to the city ... fig tree” and Mark 11:15-17 “into the temple ... chased out the traders” = Luke 19:45,46 “into temple chased out traders”

And he again leaves out the further things which happened on [the second [day] of the week] so that he can change days and times of the Christ of God--
Matthew 21:12 "He went into temple and cast out all that sold"
Also on the same day, ‘Monday’...
Matthew 21:15-17 “scribes and priests displeased by children who shouted in the temple”
= John 12:20-26 “There were certain Greeks”
Also on the same day, ‘Monday’...
Mark 11:18 “scribes and priests sought how they might destroy Him”
= Luke 19:47,48 “scribes and priests sought how they might destroy Him .. people were attentive to hear Him”
Thus, on 'Monday' the same day...
Mark 11:19 “When it became late He left the city”
= Matthew 21:17 “He left them and went out of the city to Bethany and there spent the night in a stable”
 

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[the third [day] of the week]
Jesus comes back, the Fig tree is withered up from the roots, goes to the Temple, and has the final teachings to the Pharisees, etc - [Matthew 21:18,23; Mark 11:20,27].
This was the "two days" before the "Passover" - [Matthew 26:1-2; Mark 14:1; Luke 21:37-38, 22:1].

Matthew 26:1-2
Καὶ ἐγένετο ὅτε ἐτέλεσεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς πάντας τοὺς λόγους τούτους,
And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings,

εἶπεν τοῖς μαθηταῖς αὐτοῦ 2 Οἴδατε ὅτι μετὰ δύο ἡμέρας τὸ πάσχα γίνεται
he said unto his disciples, Ye know that after two days is [the feast of] the passover,

καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου παραδίδοται εἰς τὸ σταυρωθῆναι.
and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

...<the "two days" before the "Passover"> exactly: "TO BE CRUCIFIED" on = Abib 14. You actually improved on the KJV which INCORRECTLY ADDED [the feast of]!

But this, <<This was the "two days" before the "Passover" - [Matthew 26:1-2; Mark 14:1; Luke 21:37-38, 22:1]>> with all these texts thrown into the same cooking-up pot, is a cauldron of corruption. "Here a little, there a little" like the potent cocktails of what has nothing in common, which the Jewish priests got drunk on, as God's prophet Isaiah told.
 

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[the third [day] of the week]

Jesus comes back, the Fig tree is withered up from the roots, goes to the Temple, and has the final teachings to the Pharisees, etc - [Matthew 21:18,23; Mark 11:20,27].

This was the "two days" before the "Passover" - [Matthew 26:1-2; Mark 14:1; Luke 21:37-38, 22:1].

Jesus tells the Jewish nation, that their house is forever left desolate, no more fruit again - [Matthew 23:37-39; Luke 13:32-35].

Jesus said, that He still had to do "cures" and "cast out devils" "to day, tomorrow and the third day" and be done - [Luke 13:32,33]

Jesus had been "daily" in the Temple - [Matthew 26:55; Mark 14:49; Luke 19:47, 22:53; John 18:20]

The "to day" [Luke 13:32]

[the fourth [day] of the week]

The "tomorrow" [Luke 13:32,33]

[the fifth [day] of the week]

The "Third Day" [Luke 13:32,33], being done.

The FOUR Gospels are in sync at Mark 11 on, Matthew 21 on, John 13 on and Luke 21 on but you are stuck at Luke 13:32,33?! <<this is ... daily ... today ... tomorrow ... the "Third Day">> and you expect us and me to make up our minds which is which?
 

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Oh no, not another one of these Sabbath keeping post, God how long must you contend with mankind,...

Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Far to many trying to show God how good they are.. So few wiling to lay it all before Christ...
 
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Oh no, not another one of these Sabbath keeping post, God how long must you contend with mankind,...

Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Far to many trying to show God how good they are.. So few wiling to lay it all before Christ...
Not another one of these pathetic posts where they post a passage they have no clue what it is even saying, and can't be bothered to present an argument to go along with it.

More straw. Nowhere is anyone claiming to work for their salvation. You have no argument. Look at what you just posted why don't you? What's the problem? "unbelief". You don't believe, so you're really just convicting yourself. You just pretend that people are claiming that they must keep the law to be saved when no one is making that claim at all. Pathetic.
 
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The "spices" "had been" [Mark 16:1] purchased sometime after the Crucifixion and before burial so that they could "prepare" [Luke 23:56] them to bring on the "first [day] of the week" [Luke 24:1], even as we see Joseph of Arimathaea doing for the linen - [Mark 14:46]

ἡ τοῦ Ἰακώβου καὶ Σαλώμη ἠγόρασαν ἀρώματα
of James, and Salome, had bought spices,

ἵνα ἐλθοῦσαι ἀλείψωσιν αὐτόν.
that when coming they might anoint him.

The Past Perfect usually renders the Aorist best, but not always or necessarily. Here the Past Tense fits well enough.

Καὶ διαγενομένου τοῦ σαββάτου Μαρία ἡ Μαγδαληνὴ καὶ Μαρία
And when the sabbath had gone through / was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary

ἡ τοῦ Ἰακώβου καὶ Σαλώμη ἠγόρασαν ἀρώματα
of James, and Salome bought spices

ἵνα ἐλθοῦσαι ἀλείψωσιν αὐτόν.
so that when they would go (to the tomb after midnight Luke 24:1) they might anoint him.

Therefore saying <<The "spices" "had been" [Mark 16:1] purchased sometime after the Crucifixion and before burial so that they could "prepare" [Luke 23:56] them>> is sheer mangling Scripture.

The two Marys "prepared spices and ointments" they obviously already had ready for whenever needed, not <<before burial>> but after the Burial after "mid-afternoon while the Sabbath drew near",
Luke 23:54 [Exodus 12:17 et al]
(Ἦν δὲ ἡ ἡμέρα πρὸ σαββάτου) Παρασκευῆς, καὶ σάββατον ἐπέφωσκεν
That Day was the Preparation and the Sabbath drew on.

56 ὑποστρέψασαι
And they returned [home cf. Jn19:27; 20:10]

δὲ ἡτοίμασαν ἀρώματα καὶ μύρα.
and (at home) prepared spices and ointments,

[[Johannes 19:42b
… διὰ τὴν Παρασκευὴν τῶν Ἰουδαίων …
... because of the Jews’ preparation (time)]]

... BEFORE "they started to rest the Sabbath according to the Commandment which followed after sunset after they had prepared spices and ointments. This, <<The "spices" "had been" [Mark 16:1] purchased sometime after the Crucifixion and before burial so that they could "prepare" [Luke 23:56] them>> IS A PLAIN LIE of a plainer liar used over and over and defended over and over without the least sincerity or honesty.
 

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More straw. Nowhere is anyone claiming to work for their salvation. You have no argument. Look at what you just posted why don't you? What's the problem? "unbelief". You don't believe, so you're really just convicting yourself. You just pretend that people are claiming that they must keep the law to be saved when no one is making that claim at all. Pathetic.
If im the unbelieving one, why are you so frustrated with me... satan wants people in church, Christ desires people in Him, I know where I would rather be.
 
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Jesus remained in the Tomb all Sabbath - anti-type Manna - Exodus 16:29,30

Not <all Sabbath>, 21 hours "of the weekly Sabbath",

Matthew 28:1-4
ὀψὲ δὲ Ʃαββάτων, τῇ ἐπιφωσκούσῃ
but in the end of the sabbath, mid-afternoon as it began to dawn

εἰς Mίαν σαββάτων, ἦλθεν Μαριὰμ ἡ Μαγδαληνὴ
towards the First Day of the week, Mary Magdalene

καὶ ἡ ἄλλη Μαρία θεωρῆσαι τὸν τάφον.
and the other Mary set out to see the sepulchre.

καὶ ἰδοὺ σεισμὸς ἐγένετο μέγας· ἄγγελος γὰρ
And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel

Κυρίου καταβὰς ἐξ οὐρανοῦ καὶ προσελθὼν
of the Lord descended from heaven, and came

ἀπεκύλισεν τὸν λίθον (ἀπὸ τῆς θύρας) καὶ ἐκάθητο ἐπάνω αὐτοῦ.
and rolled the stone from the door, and sat on it.

ἦν δὲ ἡ εἰδέα αὐτοῦ ὡς ἀστραπὴ, καὶ τὸ ἔνδυμα αὐτοῦ λευκὸν ὡς χιών.
His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow.

ἀπὸ δὲ τοῦ φόβου αὐτοῦ ἐσείσθησαν οἱ τηροῦντες
And for fear of him the keepers did shake,

καὶ ἐγενήθησαν ὡς (ἐγένοντο ὡσεὶ) νεκροί.
and became as dead.

5 ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ ὁ ἄγγελος εἶπεν ταῖς γυναιξίν . . .
answered the angel ... the women . . .

The manna too, got eaten up before sunset on the Sabbath Days.