Study the Bible for Truth's Sake

mjrhealth · Dec 31, 2019

Enoch111 said:
Here is the translation which has stood the test of time.
OFFICIAL KING JAMES BIBLE ONLINE: AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION (KJV)

You will find both the original KJV (with the old spellings) and the current KJV. For those who need a more updated version without any significant changes, the KJV 2000 Bible is on Bible Hub.

I mainly use KJV because it is better to stick to one version, but that does not make it the word, there are many other version that make the same claim. We only have one God, just because we choose to use one particular version doe not make it His word, God is not divided neither is He so foolish.

Enoch111 · Dec 31, 2019

mjrhealth said:
...there are many other version that make the same claim...

Those other versions have corrupted the Bible, so it is no longer the Word of God. Regardless of all their false claims.

mjrhealth · Dec 31, 2019

Enoch111 said:
Those other versions have corrupted the Bible, so it is no longer the Word of God. Regardless of all their false claims.

They have all being corrupt thats just you opinion and that is one you will have to fight over with others who declare theres to be right. There is only one truth and that is Christ who so many refuse.

1Jn_5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

No bible mentioned here

reformed1689 · Jan 1, 2020

n2thelight said:
No!Adam was formed after the 7th day

In Gen 1 He created male female at the same time

Genesis 5:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

What part of Male AND!!!! Female are you missing?

Eve was also created on the sixth day.

101G · Jan 1, 2020

David Taylor said:
Eve was also created on the sixth day.

Not saying that any is right or wrong, but consider this.
Eve was made on the same day Adam was Formed. but she didn't have her own form, her own shape, and her own fashion. what was created or made on day 6 was the GENDER, male and Female, better known as the sexes.

so now come let us "REASON" together", not to argue, but to persuade. let us present our case with scriptures to back up what we're saying.

so I'll go first.

Premis #1. the Man was "formed" on day #3, according to Genesis chapter 2 verses 4-7 which is a detail historical view as to what God did in time of his creating and making the heavens and the earth. and this forming of Man on day #3, is supported by Genesis chapter 1, verses 9-13, which is day #3.

Premis #2. the Woman who was in the man, (that was formed on day #3), was brought forth on day #6, after the animals was fromed, in which the GENDER of MANKIND was made/created/formed from the one man, "male" and "female". so what was made on day #6 was the "GENDER" of the Man (male), and the woman taken out of the man, (female).

This is my opeaning.

PICJAG.

reformed1689 · Jan 1, 2020

101G said:
Eve was made on the same day Adam was Formed. but she didn't have her own form, her own shape, and her own fashion. what was created or made on day 6 was the GENDER, male and Female, better known as the sexes.

This makes absolutely no sense. Did God create an idea of something, or did he actually create something? He actually created something.

101G said:
Premis #1. the Man was "formed" on day #3, according to Genesis chapter 2 verses 4-7 which is a detail historical view as to what God did in time of his creating and making the heavens and the earth. and this forming of Man on day #3, is supported by Genesis chapter 1, verses 9-13, which is day #3.

That is not supported by chapter one at all. Chapter one clearly states that man was created on day six.

101G · Jan 1, 2020

David Taylor said:
This makes absolutely no sense. Did God create an idea of something, or did he actually create something? He actually created something.

That is not supported by chapter one at all. Chapter one clearly states that man was created on day six.

did you read the verses I presented. did you understandd what these scriptures are saying? if not then you're correct in saying, "This makes absolutely no sense". so then, it's my burden to make sense of these two chapter. well let's see. to make sense of this, I'll let you, yourself, make sense of this. just reply to what I ask, ok. I will walk you into the truth yourself.

#1. According to Genesis chapter 1 verses 9-13 was not the grass, the herb, and the fruit tree was in the earth, and the earth brought them forth. was this not day #3. Yes or no? if not sure read the chapter. please just answer yes or no, no explination is needed. your answer please yes or no.

PICJAG.

reformed1689 · Jan 1, 2020

101G said:
did you read the verses I presented. did you understandd what these scriptures are saying? if not then you're correct in saying, "This makes absolutely no sense". so then, it's my burden to make sense of these two chapter. well let's see. to make sense of this, I'll let you, yourself, make sense of this. just reply to what I ask, ok. I will walk you into the truth yourself.

#1. According to Genesis chapter 1 verses 9-13 was not the grass, the herb, and the fruit tree was in the earth, and the earth brought them forth. was this not day #3. Yes or no? if not sure read the chapter. please just answer yes or no, no explination is needed. your answer please yes or no.

PICJAG.

Yes that was day three. And I already know where you are going with this. But you are trying to interpret Gen 1 and 2 separately when they are describing the same event but with different purposes. Genesis 1 is the chronological order of creation. Genesis 2 purpose is to expound on the creation of man specifically and not to give a chronological account. Otherwise, the two would contradict.

101G · Jan 1, 2020

David Taylor said:
Yes that was day three.

Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Genesis 2:5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

Genesis 2:6 "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

If the Grasses, the herbs, and the trees was in the earth on day 3, here, in verse 5 of chapter 2 clearly "BEFORE", "BEFORE" “before” the the earth brought them forth, (meaning the grasses and herbs and trees), man was formed, and the grasses, the hurbs, and the trees came after man. read it again.

PICJAG

101G · Jan 1, 2020

I'm going to be out for a few hours getting in some of this new year sun and air. be back soon

SO DAVE, GET YOU POINTS READY

PICJAG.

101G · Jan 1, 2020

DAY three is very important.
#1. it destroyes Darwin theory of evolution, (concering Man)

#2. it corrects the error on man being formed on day 6.

#3. it give us the understanding about the blood of man, and his DNA makeup

these are just a few for starters

PICJAG.

n2thelight · Jan 2, 2020

David Taylor said:
Eve was also created on the sixth day.

Where????????

n2thelight · Jan 2, 2020

Eve had nothing what so ever 2 do with G1 nor did Adam!!!!!!

What was the purpose in your thinking for doing an overview of G1 ?

n2thelight · Jan 2, 2020

To make that argument everything would need 2b the same ,in other words 2 chapters on the same thing would not had been necessary ...

He(God)rested after G1,then He formed Adam ,the bloodline that Christ would come through,that's why it had 2b pure,that's why satan tried 2 destroy that line

slept with Eve ,daughters of men(Adam)in G6

reformed1689 · Jan 2, 2020

n2thelight said:
Where????????

Genesis 1

brakelite · Jan 2, 2020

Okay, sorry of it sounds like I'm mentioning the obvious, but my simple mind reads the scripture and sees that Genesis 1:23 says...
KJV Genesis 1
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Then Moses, under inspiration describes the creation of the animals. Verses 24 and 25.
KJV Genesis 1
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Then Moses describes the creation of man. The next 3 verses... The Father talking to His Son...
KJV Genesis 1
Creation of Man in the Image of God
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Then God informed Adam, being the first man as described in the next chapter, having already informed him that he was now a king, having dominion over his world, what his optimum diet would be in order to live a long fruitful life... As well as what the animals would eat, at which time did not include Adam...
KJV Genesis 1
Provision for Food
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Then, according to my simple reading, this concluded the sixth day, because, hey the Bible says so...

KJV Genesis 1
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Did I miss something?

Davy · Jan 2, 2020

101G said:
GINOLJC, to all.
Addressing the OP only.
the topic, "Study the Bible for Truth's Sake". when it comes to the bible, Studying it will only make good students. and that's good. but the word of God, God himself, must be by revelation of him, the Holy Spirit. the scriptures, states,
2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth". the key to understanding this scriptures is right at the beginning of it. STUDY, for what? "to shew thyself approved unto God". Not to learn God, because he cannot be learned. when we "STUDY" we show God that we're intrested in his holy Word and he will reveal himself, meaning the scriptures will be revealed to you. as said if one just study the bible without the Holy Spirit, yes, studying just make good bible students, yet without understanding,because the bible is a sealed book, which one need the revelator to reveale it to you. supportive scripture,
Isaiah 29:9 "Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.

Isaiah 29:10 "For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

Isaiah 29:11 "And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:

Isaiah 29:12 "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

so the educated, (studying the bible) and the uneducated, (Just spot reading), are in the same boat, without knowledge and understanding. WHY, for the bible is sealed. but a brighter day has come. Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

the same book Isaiah spoke of,

Revelation 5:4 "And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. (right there "NO MAN" that's why one needs the Holy Spirit).

Revelation 5:5 "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof". the ROOT of David is the Spirit, God, the Holy Spirit, the only TRUE GOD who is able to open the book and that's the only way your "MIND" is going to be open, by the Spirit.

Romans 12:2 "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God".

REPENT,

1 Corinthians 2:11 "For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 2:12 "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. (BINGO, you got to have the Holy Spirit to know and understand the things of God).

1 Corinthians 2:13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

PICJAG.

This is why so many have such a difficult time within God's Word, particularly with its parables and expressions. The Holy Spirit must be involved in order to reveal the correct meaning. This is also why God's Word is called The Living Word; new things are revealed.

This is also why Christ's enemies seek to take over the Churches and supplant God's 'revealed' Truth by The Holy Spirit with Social religion instead:

From ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen's 1958 book The Naked Communist, listing 45 strategic goals against the West:

"27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

n2thelight · Jan 2, 2020

David Taylor said:
Genesis 1

G1 again is male AND female,that's not even Adam,much less Eve

The word Adam was used of saying all mankind however THE man Adam

Genesis 2:7 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

The word "formed" is used [molded as clay] to describe the making of Adam. When man was formed he became a living creature. In the Hebrew it is "eth-ha-adham", which refers to the particular person "Adam", (not a generic form for man). The "Ha-Adham" [Adam] is the man that Christ will come forth through. Matthew 1:1-17, and Luke 3:23-38 both give us our documentation that this is true and did come to pass. Paul states in I Corinthians 15:21-23 that sin came into the world by the first Adam, but by the second Adam [Christ} all shall be made alive. Christ is the first fruits [to come out of the grave to everlasting life], and then "they that are Christ's at His coming". There was death by the first Adam, and salvation by Christ Himself.

Genesis 2:8 "(And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed."

In this "Eden" which God had formed, He put "eth-ha adham" [not any man, but "the Adam"]. This is the man "Adam" formed from clay in Genesis 2:7, and not the "male and female" of the races of the sixth day creation of Genesis 1:27-28. Eden is a special place that God made, following the seventh day of rest, for a special man called Adam.

God first created the wilderness, then the creatures, followed by male and female of all races; and then He rested. This Adam is of the eighth day creation, when God formed Adam, and we will see that when Cain went to the wilderness, he married into the sixth day creation's offspring.

Davy · Jan 3, 2020

n2thelight said:
G1 again is male AND female,that's not even Adam,much less Eve

The word Adam was used of saying all mankind however THE man Adam

Genesis 2:7 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

The word "formed" is used [molded as clay] to describe the making of Adam. When man was formed he became a living creature. In the Hebrew it is "eth-ha-adham", which refers to the particular person "Adam", (not a generic form for man). The "Ha-Adham" [Adam] is the man that Christ will come forth through. Matthew 1:1-17, and Luke 3:23-38 both give us our documentation that this is true and did come to pass. Paul states in I Corinthians 15:21-23 that sin came into the world by the first Adam, but by the second Adam [Christ} all shall be made alive. Christ is the first fruits [to come out of the grave to everlasting life], and then "they that are Christ's at His coming". There was death by the first Adam, and salvation by Christ Himself.

Genesis 2:8 "(And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed."

In this "Eden" which God had formed, He put "eth-ha adham" [not any man, but "the Adam"]. This is the man "Adam" formed from clay in Genesis 2:7, and not the "male and female" of the races of the sixth day creation of Genesis 1:27-28. Eden is a special place that God made, following the seventh day of rest, for a special man called Adam.

God first created the wilderness, then the creatures, followed by male and female of all races; and then He rested. This Adam is of the eighth day creation, when God formed Adam, and we will see that when Cain went to the wilderness, he married into the sixth day creation's offspring.

Actually the Hebrew article and particle with 'adham' is in Genesis 1 also on the 6th day. It's pointing to both 'adham' and 'eth ha adham', which means the races of mankind and another separate man, both created on the 6th day.

In Sydney Bristowe's documentation in Sargon The Magnificent, she showed from the Assyriologist's own evidence they discovered about ancient Sumer that the Semite Sargon I the Sumerians said appeared among them and gave them much knowledge and built the first city there, was most likely Cain of The Bible. This strongly suggests ancient Sumer-Babylon was the Biblical "land of Nod". That supports Genesis 1 about the creation of the races of mankind and the creation of the man Adam.

n2thelight · Jan 3, 2020

Davy said:
Actually the Hebrew article and particle with 'adham' is in Genesis 1 also on the 6th day. It's pointing to both 'adham' and 'eth ha adham', which means the races of mankind and another separate man, both created on the 6th day.

In Sydney Bristowe's documentation in Sargon The Magnificent, she showed from the Assyriologist's own evidence they discovered about ancient Sumer that the Semite Sargon I the Sumerians said appeared among them and gave them much knowledge and built the first city there, was most likely Cain of The Bible. This strongly suggests ancient Sumer-Babylon was the Biblical "land of Nod". That supports Genesis 1 about the creation of the races of mankind and the creation of the man Adam.

Gonna have to look in to that thanks.....But they are different

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