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I'm not Australian, although my great grandfather was born here, in Bendigo. I'm from New Zealand, 2000 ks over the ditch. Here in Melbourne where I have been living the past 3 years, we find ourselves in the middle, as in Sydney in NSW, of a Victorian disaster that is ongoing, and seemingly without any end any time soon. The smoke from the fires now raging in Queensland, South Australia, Victoria, and New South Wales, is so thick and widespread it is clearly affecting visibility in my home country 2000 ks away. This is unprecedented. Regardless of the why's of the current situation, we need rain. There are entire towns now being evacuated because they can no longer live in their own homes, either because they now don't have any, or that the danger is to great to stay. And the only escape route is by sea. The entire South East coast of Australia is either on fire now, or will be. The situation in NSW interior and coastal regions is no better. The area so far burnt is more than 15,000,000 acres. That's a quarter the size of NZ.
Tomorrow, Friday, is expected to be another extreme danger situation heat wise, with temperatures again threatening 110F.
It's time to pray please for all those in this country who are in imminent danger and are trapped... or homeless, without communications, food, or water. 1000s are affected. Please pray for Australia.
 
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It looks scarifying ....almost prophetic 2 Peter
"..and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

Last summer we had forrest fires not of us, fires to the right, to the left and below us in Montana USA ....and then California started burning...

Is it 'just happening', or is God speaking? I have no idea.
 
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It looks scarifying ....almost prophetic 2 Peter
"..and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

Last summer we had forrest fires not of us, fires to the right, to the left and below us in Montana USA ....and then California started burning...

Is it 'just happening', or is God speaking? I have no idea.
I believe it is definitely prophetic. It doesn't mean God is actively involved being some kind of celestial arsonist, but He knew that in these last days drought, man's negligence and man's false understanding of environmental concerns would lead to these events. I am reminded of the volcanic eruption recently in New Zealand which killed over a dozen people. Yet these events, scary and heartbreaking as they are, are but the beginning of sorrows. We ain't seen nothin yet.
 

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I believe it is definitely prophetic. It doesn't mean God is actively involved being some kind of celestial arsonist, but He knew that in these last days drought, man's negligence and man's false understanding of environmental concerns would lead to these events. I am reminded of the volcanic eruption recently in New Zealand which killed over a dozen people. Yet these events, scary and heartbreaking as they are, are but the beginning of sorrows. We ain't seen nothin yet.



Totally agree...

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Thank you for the maps brakelite - it helps to get some kind of prospective - many of the town names mentioned on the news over here just don't resonate - but seeing the map - WOW. I think I heard that Saturday was going to bea really hot day as well- hotter than Tuesday.
It must be just so frightening, I didn't realise how big an area the fires covered.
Thinking of you, and definately praying xx
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It looks scarifying ....almost prophetic 2 Peter
"..and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

Last summer we had forrest fires not of us, fires to the right, to the left and below us in Montana USA ....and then California started burning...

Is it 'just happening', or is God speaking? I have no idea.

Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
 

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The entire South East coast of Australia is either on fire now, or will be.
Australians and the world needs to know the truth about the reason for this tragedy (from Breitbart News)

[Having shown the real climatic conditions over long periods of time, the author says]...So, to be clear, there is zero evidence of any change in climatic conditions that might have increased the likelihood or severity of these bush fires. This is not — repeat NOT — a man-made climate change story, and anyone who claims otherwise is either a gullible idiot or a lying charlatan.

There is, nonetheless, good reason to believe that the stupidity and irresponsibility of man is at least partly to blame for this disaster — just not quite in the way that the left-liberal MSM and the green wankerati would have you believe.

Man-made culprit #1: all the firebugs who have been deliberately starting fires in New South Wales, Queensland, and elsewhere. You won’t be surprised that their involvement has had very little coverage in the left-liberal MSM. Here’s a story from December headlined ‘Firebugs blamed for destructive Queensland fires’ — it notes: Figures obtained by AAP reveal 98 people – 31 adults and 67 juveniles – have been dealt with by Queensland police for deliberately setting fires. A 16-year-old boy was found to have started a fire that razed 14 homes in central Queensland and dealt with under the state’s Youth Justice Act. Two more teens, 14 and 15, were charged with endangering property by fire over a blaze that destroyed two homes and forced hundreds to flee.

Man-made culprit #2: well-meaning idiots who don’t understand that unless you manage forested areas with controlled burns, you’re going to end up with out-of-control wildfires. Jo Nova has a damning story about locals in East Gippsland in the state of Victoria who successfully stopped a planned controlled burn at Nowa Nowa. Two of them were pictured holding signs saying, “Spring burns kill baby birds alive” and “Stop burning nesting birds”. One grandmother was quoted as saying, “I’m more worried about climate change, and the impact the burns are having. I’m worried for my grandchildren.” ABC — the excruciatingly left-wing Australian Broadcasting Company, so woke it makes the BBC and CNN look like Fox News — reported on the protests with some enthusiasm last September but has since mysteriously decided to delete the story from Facebook.

If this is the kind of obstructive idiocy that the mainstream media and the junk-science climate alarmism industry have created with their global warming propaganda, then the mainstream media and the junk-science climate alarmism industry have blood on their hands.

Man-made culprit #3: Greens The people most to blame for the Australian bush fires are the greens. Just like in California, their tree-hugging Gaia worship blinded them to the reality that forests need regular clearance and maintenance if they are not to become a major fire hazard.

Some Australian politicians on the right side of the argument are well
aware of this: “The problems we have got have been created by the Greens,” Mr [Barnaby] Joyce told The Australian. “We haven’t had the capacity to easily access (hazard) reduction burns because of all of the paperwork that is part of green policy. “We don’t have access to dams because they have been decommissioned on national parks because of green policy. We have trees that have fallen over vehicles and block roads, so people cannot either get access to fight a fire or to get away from fires. And we can’t knock over the trees because of Greens policy.

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack has lashed the “disgraceful, disgusting” behaviour of “raving inner-city lunatics” for linking climate change to the ferocious bushfires burning across Queensland and NSW.

Yet still, in large parts of Australia, it remains illegal to remove trees from your land even in order to create fire breaks and protect your property — despite the obvious risk this ban creates to homeowners living in potential bush-fire zones. Trees have been designated a ‘carbon sink’, which supposedly offset Australia’s CO2 emissions.
This issue has long been known in Australia, as the story below shows:

Liam Sheahan is an Australian fireman who in 2002 was fined $50,000 – and paid another $50,000 in costs – for illegally clearing the trees round his home in rural Victoria. In 2009 he was vindicated when his property was only one left standing after bushfires destroyed his town.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is being attacked from the left for his failure to ‘act’ on climate change – as though, somehow, this would have done anything to prevent this year’s bushfires.

But if we’re going to blame ScoMo for anything, it should rather be his pusillanimity in the face of green bullying. Sheahan makes this point in an interview with the Daily Mail:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison and NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian have both refused to be drawn into the debate, saying now it is not the time for politics. ‘That’s what they always say’, claims Mr Sheahan, who believes it is the perfect time to discuss the policies on organised burns, before the consequences are once again forgotten.

The death toll in the 2009 Australian fires was much higher than this years’ (at least so far). Even back then, the problem was well recognised.

Here is a piece Miranda Devine wrote in the Sydney Morning Herald:

The Kinglake area was a nature-loving community of tree-changers, organic farmers and artists to the north of Melbourne. A council committed to reducing carbon emissions dominates the Nillumbik shire, a so-called “green wedge” area, where restrictions on removing vegetation around houses reportedly added to the dangers. In nearby St Andrews, where more than 20 people are believed to have died, surviving residents have spoken angrily of “greenies” who prevented them from cutting back trees near their property, including in one case, a tea tree that went “whoomp”. Dr Phil Cheney, the former head of the CSIRO’s bushfire research unit and one of the pioneers of prescribed burning, said yesterday if the fire-ravaged Victorian areas had been hazard-reduced, the flames would not have been as intense.

Read Devine’s whole piece. It will make you very angry as you realise just how preventable the current disaster was: preventable because the causes of these intense, out-of-control bush fires are so widely known.

Never let it be forgotten that the people most responsible for the disastrous and dangerous policy preventing Australian home-owners from clearing their own land are the shrill, bullying, anti-scientific, anti-human activists of the green movement. Every time these virtue-signalling prats appear on Twitter or TV whining about all the animals killed, they deserve a slap in the face with a burned koala; if any human deserves blame for this tragedy, it’s stupid greenies like themselves.

And let’s just repeat one more time: Australia’s bush fires have nothing whatsoever to do with climate change. There is no evidence at all to support this claim; it is clearly contradicted by the temperature and rainfall record. The people who claim otherwise, especially those trying to make political capital out of the disaster by twisting the facts to suit their narrative, are either offensively ignorant or nauseatingly unconscionable. In my next article — because why not? This is the year when I get Medieval on the greenies’ collective arse — I shall name a few names.

Delingpole: Environmentalists Made Australia's Bush Fires Worse
 
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Australians and the world needs to know the truth about the reason for this tragedy (from Breitbart News)

[Having shown the real climatic conditions over long periods of time, the author says]...So, to be clear, there is zero evidence of any change in climatic conditions that might have increased the likelihood or severity of these bush fires. This is not — repeat NOT — a man-made climate change story, and anyone who claims otherwise is either a gullible idiot or a lying charlatan.

There is, nonetheless, good reason to believe that the stupidity and irresponsibility of man is at least partly to blame for this disaster — just not quite in the way that the left-liberal MSM and the green wankerati would have you believe.

Man-made culprit #1: all the firebugs who have been deliberately starting fires in New South Wales, Queensland, and elsewhere. You won’t be surprised that their involvement has had very little coverage in the left-liberal MSM. Here’s a story from December headlined ‘Firebugs blamed for destructive Queensland fires’ — it notes: Figures obtained by AAP reveal 98 people – 31 adults and 67 juveniles – have been dealt with by Queensland police for deliberately setting fires. A 16-year-old boy was found to have started a fire that razed 14 homes in central Queensland and dealt with under the state’s Youth Justice Act. Two more teens, 14 and 15, were charged with endangering property by fire over a blaze that destroyed two homes and forced hundreds to flee.

Man-made culprit #2: well-meaning idiots who don’t understand that unless you manage forested areas with controlled burns, you’re going to end up with out-of-control wildfires. Jo Nova has a damning story about locals in East Gippsland in the state of Victoria who successfully stopped a planned controlled burn at Nowa Nowa. Two of them were pictured holding signs saying, “Spring burns kill baby birds alive” and “Stop burning nesting birds”. One grandmother was quoted as saying, “I’m more worried about climate change, and the impact the burns are having. I’m worried for my grandchildren.” ABC — the excruciatingly left-wing Australian Broadcasting Company, so woke it makes the BBC and CNN look like Fox News — reported on the protests with some enthusiasm last September but has since mysteriously decided to delete the story from Facebook.

If this is the kind of obstructive idiocy that the mainstream media and the junk-science climate alarmism industry have created with their global warming propaganda, then the mainstream media and the junk-science climate alarmism industry have blood on their hands.

Man-made culprit #3: Greens The people most to blame for the Australian bush fires are the greens. Just like in California, their tree-hugging Gaia worship blinded them to the reality that forests need regular clearance and maintenance if they are not to become a major fire hazard.

Some Australian politicians on the right side of the argument are well
aware of this: “The problems we have got have been created by the Greens,” Mr [Barnaby] Joyce told The Australian. “We haven’t had the capacity to easily access (hazard) reduction burns because of all of the paperwork that is part of green policy. “We don’t have access to dams because they have been decommissioned on national parks because of green policy. We have trees that have fallen over vehicles and block roads, so people cannot either get access to fight a fire or to get away from fires. And we can’t knock over the trees because of Greens policy.

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack has lashed the “disgraceful, disgusting” behaviour of “raving inner-city lunatics” for linking climate change to the ferocious bushfires burning across Queensland and NSW.

Yet still, in large parts of Australia, it remains illegal to remove trees from your land even in order to create fire breaks and protect your property — despite the obvious risk this ban creates to homeowners living in potential bush-fire zones. Trees have been designated a ‘carbon sink’, which supposedly offset Australia’s CO2 emissions.
This issue has long been known in Australia, as the story below shows:

Liam Sheahan is an Australian fireman who in 2002 was fined $50,000 – and paid another $50,000 in costs – for illegally clearing the trees round his home in rural Victoria. In 2009 he was vindicated when his property was only one left standing after bushfires destroyed his town.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is being attacked from the left for his failure to ‘act’ on climate change – as though, somehow, this would have done anything to prevent this year’s bushfires.

But if we’re going to blame ScoMo for anything, it should rather be his pusillanimity in the face of green bullying. Sheahan makes this point in an interview with the Daily Mail:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison and NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian have both refused to be drawn into the debate, saying now it is not the time for politics. ‘That’s what they always say’, claims Mr Sheahan, who believes it is the perfect time to discuss the policies on organised burns, before the consequences are once again forgotten.

The death toll in the 2009 Australian fires was much higher than this years’ (at least so far). Even back then, the problem was well recognised.

Here is a piece Miranda Devine wrote in the Sydney Morning Herald:

The Kinglake area was a nature-loving community of tree-changers, organic farmers and artists to the north of Melbourne. A council committed to reducing carbon emissions dominates the Nillumbik shire, a so-called “green wedge” area, where restrictions on removing vegetation around houses reportedly added to the dangers. In nearby St Andrews, where more than 20 people are believed to have died, surviving residents have spoken angrily of “greenies” who prevented them from cutting back trees near their property, including in one case, a tea tree that went “whoomp”. Dr Phil Cheney, the former head of the CSIRO’s bushfire research unit and one of the pioneers of prescribed burning, said yesterday if the fire-ravaged Victorian areas had been hazard-reduced, the flames would not have been as intense.

Read Devine’s whole piece. It will make you very angry as you realise just how preventable the current disaster was: preventable because the causes of these intense, out-of-control bush fires are so widely known.

Never let it be forgotten that the people most responsible for the disastrous and dangerous policy preventing Australian home-owners from clearing their own land are the shrill, bullying, anti-scientific, anti-human activists of the green movement. Every time these virtue-signalling prats appear on Twitter or TV whining about all the animals killed, they deserve a slap in the face with a burned koala; if any human deserves blame for this tragedy, it’s stupid greenies like themselves.

And let’s just repeat one more time: Australia’s bush fires have nothing whatsoever to do with climate change. There is no evidence at all to support this claim; it is clearly contradicted by the temperature and rainfall record. The people who claim otherwise, especially those trying to make political capital out of the disaster by twisting the facts to suit their narrative, are either offensively ignorant or nauseatingly unconscionable. In my next article — because why not? This is the year when I get Medieval on the greenies’ collective arse — I shall name a few names.

Delingpole: Environmentalists Made Australia's Bush Fires Worse
Thanks Enoch, that articulated very well what I have known for over 30 years when I was working in Forestry in New Zealand. And when in the late 90s and early 2000s mega fires devastated so much of your land but for different reasons (not Greenies so much but USFS policy) but with the same result, I write a sermon on the subject in around 2003, and preached it again just last year.
And sadly, while some Australians are fully aware of this, particularly the indigenous people who have practiced such conservation for 1000s of years, most I fear are hypnotised by the Greta Thumbergs of the world and live in lalaland.
Smokey Bear
 
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Our church prayed for rain this morning. Lots of rain. Not just over where we were, but over the entire South East of Australia. Is God merciful? Does He not send rain on the just and the unjust? Absolutely.
 
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This is the Misty Mountain Health Retreat rim by Adventists half way between Coffs Harbour and Port McQuarrie a little North of Sydney. They are in the middle of a national Forest Park 160,000 hectares of which is still burning. The director of the retreat looked out and see a wall of fire approaching the site, divided in two and carried on leaving not one single building or vehicle damaged. Praise God and all glory to Him.FB_IMG_1578112714915.jpg Screenshot_2020-01-04-14-23-13.png
 

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well, we don't have any fires here in the north although the season has been pretty dry. Some showers over the last couple of weeks to settle some dust and gladden the heart but last night it was torrential most of the night. Lightning cracked and the roar of thunder shook the earth. It woke me at two in the morning. A large strangler fig has snapped and cascaded into the creek. Thank God for his blessings.
 
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well, we don't have any fires here in the north although the season has been pretty dry. Some showers over the last couple of weeks to settle some dust and gladden the heart but last night it was torrential most of the night. Lightning cracked and the roar of thunder shook the earth. It woke me at two in the morning. A large strangler fig has snapped and cascaded into the creek. Thank God for his blessings.
It was horrifying to learn the number of arsonists arrested in this role scenario. Like 50 in NSW? And even a volunteer fireman in Victoria! What is it with people that would do such a thing? Insanity comes to mind... But demonic activity perhaps more so, or a combination of both.
The whole on the north island of NZ is now under smoke...2000 ks away. FB_IMG_1578235251817.jpg
 
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I'm not Australian, although my great grandfather was born here, in Bendigo. I'm from New Zealand, 2000 ks over the ditch. Here in Melbourne where I have been living the past 3 years, we find ourselves in the middle, as in Sydney in NSW, of a Victorian disaster that is ongoing, and seemingly without any end any time soon. The smoke from the fires now raging in Queensland, South Australia, Victoria, and New South Wales, is so thick and widespread it is clearly affecting visibility in my home country 2000 ks away. This is unprecedented. Regardless of the why's of the current situation, we need rain. There are entire towns now being evacuated because they can no longer live in their own homes, either because they now don't have any, or that the danger is to great to stay. And the only escape route is by sea. The entire South East coast of Australia is either on fire now, or will be. The situation in NSW interior and coastal regions is no better. The area so far burnt is more than 15,000,000 acres. That's a quarter the size of NZ.
Tomorrow, Friday, is expected to be another extreme danger situation heat wise, with temperatures again threatening 110F.
It's time to pray please for all those in this country who are in imminent danger and are trapped... or homeless, without communications, food, or water. 1000s are affected. Please pray for Australia.

You all sure have my prayers!
 
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